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Why Did These Black Pacific Islanders Look So Much Like Many Black Americans? 1492. - page 8

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 BlacksAndLatins said
Yeah because those are the ones that have actually been properly preserved and not extensively tampered with, genius
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Who?
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Oh wait you mean the debunked psuedohistorian
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Miss me with this dusty hotep projection
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I provided peer-reviewed research data from one of the most prominent scientific journals in the world.

You cited a fraud.
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Again, more raging projection because I destroyed your fantasy
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Look at you fantasizing about white men raping women while you speak your oppressor's language, pay taxes to your oppressor, never visited your ancestral homelands, had your culture utterly extinguished AND hate your own identity so much you have to claim other cultures as your own
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You're a spainard lol.

You're always talking sh1t but you in here using mental gymnastics on why they only test mummies from a a later period. After the Greeks conquered Eygpt.


Then you want to use genetics as if genotype determines phenotype, which we kno isn't the case.

You can go on and on being mad about because we're the best athletes and we look similar to Egyptians and we conquered Iberia. And we went through slavery with out all our people being mingled into a completely different race.

The dumb a$s theory you people have that the ancestors of West African people lived in west Africa for hundreds of thousands of years and didn't migrate didn't build sea faring vessels had no language is racist and only show how weak and insecure you are.

You can't call people Russians and then rely on racist theories that suggest all black people were primitive and the Sahara was to much of a obstacles for the west African to expand.
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 Beatz said
It was our world until the conquers who were all white started committing genocide amongst all our people scattered across Earth. They r@ped and had s3x with all the women causing them to have lighter offspring until the majority of the population was light or took on different mixed features. Like the Indians of Americas, the islanders we mostly see today Mexicans or even the modern Asian. Look at the black people of America today interracial mixing has changed us completely. Now a huge number of our people look like the Ball boys. They were only less than 10% off the works population but yet they were able to take over the world and change our nature
Facts that's what happened In India. It was one of the 1st places effected by it
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 Boogie1790 said
You're a spainard lol.

You're always talking sh1t but you in here using mental gymnastics on why they only test mummies from a a later period. After the Greeks conquered Eygpt.
History fail.



The Greeks conquered Egypt in 330 BC
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The DNA tested was from...




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 BlacksAndLatins said
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The tombs of ancient Egypt have yielded golden collars and ivory bracelets, but another treasure — human DNA — has proved elusive. Now, scientists have captured sweeping genomic information from Egyptian mummies. It reveals that mummies were closely related to ancient Middle Easterners, hinting that northern Africans might have different genetic roots from people south of the Sahara desert.

The study, published on 30 May in Nature Communications1, includes data from 90 mummies buried between 1380 bc, during Egypt’s New Kingdom, and ad 425, in the Roman era. The findings show that the mummies’ closest kin were ancient farmers from a region that includes present-day Israel and Jordan. Modern Egyptians, by contrast, have inherited more of their DNA from central Africans.
Can you count?



That's literally over a thousand years before Greece conquered Egypt
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 Boogie1790 said
Then you want to use genetics as if genotype determines phenotype, which we kno isn't the case.
AHT! AHT!
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It's not me who wants to use genetics that's way, it's SCIENCE
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And on the contrary we do "kno" that IS the case
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The term "phenotype" refers to the observable physical properties of an organism; these include the organism's appearance, development, and behavior. An organism's phenotype is determined by its genotype, which is the set of genes the organism carries, as well as by environmental influences upon these genes. Due to the influence of environmental factors, organisms with identical genotypes, such as identical twins, ultimately express nonidentical phenotypes because each organism encounters unique environmental influences as it develops. Examples of phenotypes include height, wing length, and hair color. Phenotypes also include observable characteristics that can be measured in the laboratory, such as levels of hormones or blood cells.

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So not only do you not "kno" Egyptian history but you don't understand basic biology either
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 Boogie1790 said
You can go on and on being mad about because we're the best athletes and we look similar to Egyptians and we conquered Iberia.
1) You never conquered sh1t
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2) The Moors weren't Black either
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 Boogie1790 said
And we went through slavery with out all our people being mingled into a completely different race.
The difference is Hispanics are not oppressed by Spain, genius
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That sh1t happened hundreds of years ago. n1ggas moved on from that and done adapted already. Hispanics have fully absorbed and embraced Spanish/Latin culture.

There's over half a BILLION *MORE* Christian practicing, Spanish speaking Hispanics in the Americas than in Spain.
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You're being fu#ked up the a$s LONG. d1ck. STYLE. by your oppressor TODAY
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You're a guest in this country, Hispanics are already home
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No wonder you're so jealous and desperate to try and claim civilizations that aren't your own
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 Boogie1790 said
The dumb a$s theory you people have that the ancestors of West African people lived in west Africa for hundreds of thousands of years and didn't migrate didn't build sea faring vessels had no language is racist and only show how weak and insecure you are.
So where are those "sea faring vessels" now? Wakanda?
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Where is the historical evidence? The archaeological proof? The receipts? Anything?

Oh right they don't exist anywhere except in your fantasies
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 Boogie1790 said
You can't call people Russians and then rely on racist theories that suggest all black people were primitive and the Sahara was to much of a obstacles for the west African to expand.
Nobody said sh1t about "all black people were primitive" you projected that all on your own.
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 Tlatoani said
What's your method for discerning reliability?

So far based on our past interactions, it seems like anything that supports your conclusions is reliable and anything to the counter is doctored, without technical or scientific explanations.
Whites have absolutely no incentive to lie about there being blacks that were indigenous to the Americas.

Whites have every incentive in the world to lie and say there were no blacks in the Americas(even though blacks were everywhere) before whites discovered it. Because in their mind they'll view it as blacks "discovering" it before them. The Americas seemed to be way more of a prize to Whites than the "discovery" of any other land.
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All those words just to say I'm right
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So to summarize, you have no claim, you're just wondering out loud? This is an overglorified diary post?
You don't know sh1t about black American people, especially not black American southerners. You don't know what the hell we look like.

Right about what? You're wrong because there is a black American that looks like every person I posted. This thread was never about the ones that don't. Straw manning and goal post moving. I'm not one of these idiots that post pics of some Danny Trejo lookin cat and says see they black like us.

If you're some type of latino you are worrying about the wrong blacks anyway. You need to be worried about all them black folks in Latin America that you always try to hide. Those people are the real Olmecs. A lot of you muthafu#kas down there think you're native Americans but yall are Polynesians anyway. Yall don't look sh1t like North American mongol natives or the Siberians those people come from. Yall people ain't got enough sense to figure out your own hidden history but trying disprove someone else's.

What claim do you think I'm attempting to make? Why does this claim make you so nervous.
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 Sammyboi22 said
is Canadian....
Ask Ronnie would he have a website if it didn't focus on black American culture, news, and current events.

No one is here to discuss your culture, whatever that is. If this site was based around your ethnicity it wouldn't be in business.

This is an African American message board and it doesn't matter how you have to lie to yourself about it to make yourselves feel better. If this wasn't an African American message board you wouldn't want to post here.
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 Bam Bam said
Whites have absolutely no incentive to lie about there being blacks that were indigenous to the Americas.
Actually you do
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Your pathetic little scheme is not going to work, Dmitry
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By pretending to be Black and trying to steal the heritage and cultural identity of Indigenous Native Americans --whom Hispanic actually descend from-- you can then claim this land "belongs" to Black people, when it really doesn't.

This land belongs to Hispanics and Native Americans because they were here first before anybody and everyone else is guests
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 Boogie1790 said
You're a spainard lol.

You're always talking sh1t but you in here using mental gymnastics on why they only test mummies from a a later period. After the Greeks conquered Eygpt.


Then you want to use genetics as if genotype determines phenotype, which we kno isn't the case.

You can go on and on being mad about because we're the best athletes and we look similar to Egyptians and we conquered Iberia. And we went through slavery with out all our people being mingled into a completely different race.

The dumb a$s theory you people have that the ancestors of West African people lived in west Africa for hundreds of thousands of years and didn't migrate didn't build sea faring vessels had no language is racist and only show how weak and insecure you are.

You can't call people Russians and then rely on racist theories that suggest all black people were primitive and the Sahara was to much of a obstacles for the west African to expand.
Yo, that sh1t right there in the bold is crazy fu#king irony.

This racist dirt eating, wanna be native confused a$s white boy is the worst poster I've ever come across on any message board. Automatic slap status.
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 Bam Bam said
Yo, that sh1t right there in the bold is crazy fu#king irony.

This racist dirt eating, wanna be native confused a$s white boy is the worst poster I've ever come across on any message board. Automatic slap status.
Stay mad, Dmitry
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 Bam Bam said
Ask Ronnie would he have a website if it didn't focus on black American culture, news, and current events.

No one is here to discuss your culture, whatever that is. If this site was based around your ethnicity it wouldn't be in business.

This is an African American message board and it doesn't matter how you have to lie to yourself about it to make yourselves feel better. If this wasn't an African American message board you wouldn't want to post here.
BX today is VERY different than it was back then. Not saying it wasn’t based around hip hop music, but it was way more diverse in regards to the subs that were popular back then. If you don’t remember preparation H, you don’t know sh1t about boxden.
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 BlacksAndLatins said
Actually you do
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Your pathetic little scheme is not going to work, Dmitry
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By pretending to be Black and trying to steal the heritage and cultural identity of Indigenous Native Americans --whom Hispanic actually descend from-- you can then claim this land "belongs" to Black people, when it really doesn't.

This land belongs to Hispanics and Native Americans because they were here first before anybody and everyone else is guests
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Why on earth would a black American who comes from one of the most influential and imapctful ethnic groups to ever exist want or need to steal the heritage and cultural identity of a shirtless group of people like native mongols and polynesians? You've contributed nothing to society, no music, no films, no literature, no inventions, no cultural relevance. You cannibals have no modern culture. Why on earth would I trade my glorious black American culture in for the absolute nothing that you dirt diggers have. You're on a black American message board. This isn't Brown pride. Latinos have no culture.

Post a receipt of me claiming this was black peoples land.

The land belongs to natives but not no dirt eating hispanic like you. Your ancestry and heritage is in Spain, white boy. I find it hilarious you call me Russian but I gurantee you look like a whole white boy and I'm a whole black man.
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 Bam Bam said
Why on earth would a black American who comes from one of the most influential and imapctful ethnic groups to ever exist want or need to steal the heritage and cultural identity of a shirtless group of people like native mongols and polynesians?
Because you racist russians think African Americans are stupid enough to fall for a bunch of "WE WUZ KAAANGZ N SHIEET" psuedohistory.

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My people have contributed nothing to society, no music, no films, no literature, no inventions, no cultural relevance.
We know, Dmitry
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There is Hispanic influence all over your sad excuse for a nation. Salsa dancing and tango is popular even in your country
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The majority of your army smokes our tobacco
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russia has one of the biggest Tequila markets in the world
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What prominent russian painters are there?
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Picasso >>> Your entire sad excuse for a nation
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 Bam Bam said
You cannibals have no modern culture.
which is why Hispanic cuisine is popular all over the world but nobody is trying to open up restaurants that sell pelmeni or borscht
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 Bam Bam said
Why on earth would I trade my glorious black American culture in for the absolute nothing that you dirt diggers have. You're on a black American message board. This isn't Brown pride. Latinos have no culture.
Like I said, outside of vodka and dying in the cold, what do you russians have compared to Latinos?
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Lionel Messi is the most popular athlete in the world, what russian athletes can even hope to compare?
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Your most famous athlete is like a D-list tennis player who married a Latino
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 Bam Bam said
Post a receipt of me claiming this was black peoples land.

The land belongs to natives but not no dirt eating hispanic like you. Your ancestry and heritage is in Spain, white boy. I find it hilarious you call me Russian but I gurantee you look like a whole white boy and I'm a whole black man.
That's not how political scheming works, Dmitry. You know you're not supposed to tell your endgame right off jump
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Hispanic heritage is right here in the Americas
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Yours is in a frozen cesspool where your people are treated like slaves and mercenaries
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$1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 rubles says you can't post any proof of being Black though
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Black Americans have never copied anything from Hispanics and Polynesians. Can't say the same in reverse.
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 Bam Bam said
Yo, that sh1t right there in the bold is crazy fu#king irony.

This racist dirt eating, wanna be native confused a$s white boy is the worst poster I've ever come across on any message board. Automatic slap status.
That's who I'm talking about ain't no irony
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 BlacksAndLatins said
History fail.



The Greeks conquered Egypt in 330 BC
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The DNA tested was from...




and I quote....

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Can you count?



That's literally over a thousand years before Greece conquered Egypt
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AHT! AHT!
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It's not me who wants to use genetics that's way, it's SCIENCE
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And on the contrary we do "kno" that IS the case
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WARNING: ANOTHER viciously brutal L incoming





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So not only do you not "kno" Egyptian history but you don't understand basic biology either
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1) You never conquered sh1t
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2) The Moors weren't Black either
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The difference is Hispanics are not oppressed by Spain, genius
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That sh1t happened hundreds of years ago. n1ggas moved on from that and done adapted already. Hispanics have fully absorbed and embraced Spanish/Latin culture.

There's over half a BILLION *MORE* Christian practicing, Spanish speaking Hispanics in the Americas than in Spain.
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You're being fu#ked up the a$s LONG. d1ck. STYLE. by your oppressor TODAY
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You're a guest in this country, Hispanics are already home
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No wonder you're so jealous and desperate to try and claim civilizations that aren't your own
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So where are those "sea faring vessels" now? Wakanda?
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Where is the historical evidence? The archaeological proof? The receipts? Anything?

Oh right they don't exist anywhere except in your fantasies
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Nobody said sh1t about "all black people were primitive" you projected that all on your own.
Lmao but the middle easterners were dark-skinned.

You're talking about haplogroup E when you speak of middle Easterners.

The middle east was black. Go to the Google and search the sussain guard.
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 Bam Bam said
Black Americans have never copied anything from Hispanics and Polynesians. Can't say the same in reverse.
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Hispanics started lowriders




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you wouldn't know about any of this way out in russia
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don't even get me started on Black owned taco trucks
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or gangbanging either
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gangs like White Fence have been around for decades before The Avenues/Crips or the Vice Lords as well
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 Boogie1790 said
Lmao but the middle easterners were dark-skinned.

You're talking about haplogroup E when you speak of middle Easterners.

The middle east was black. Go to the Google and search the sussain guard.
nah i'm good.

1) you didn't know when Greece conquered Egypt

2) you didn't know that the Moors weren't Black

3) you didn't know that genotype determines phenotype
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4) you still can't show any receipts of any sea-faring Sub-Saharan African tribes
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 Bam Bam said
Whites have absolutely no incentive to lie about there being blacks that were indigenous to the Americas.

Whites have every incentive in the world to lie and say there were no blacks in the Americas(even though blacks were everywhere) before whites discovered it. Because in their mind they'll view it as blacks "discovering" it before them. The Americas seemed to be way more of a prize to Whites than the "discovery" of any other land.


You don't know sh1t about black American people, especially not black American southerners. You don't know what the hell we look like.

Right about what? You're wrong because there is a black American that looks like every person I posted. This thread was never about the ones that don't. Straw manning and goal post moving. I'm not one of these idiots that post pics of some Danny Trejo lookin cat and says see they black like us.

If you're some type of latino you are worrying about the wrong blacks anyway. You need to be worried about all them black folks in Latin America that you always try to hide. Those people are the real Olmecs. A lot of you muthafu#kas down there think you're native Americans but yall are Polynesians anyway. Yall don't look sh1t like North American mongol natives or the Siberians those people come from. Yall people ain't got enough sense to figure out your own hidden history but trying disprove someone else's.

What claim do you think I'm attempting to make? Why does this claim make you so nervous.
Well the Columbus journals have been used to support your proposition. You called them doctored in another thread for containing one detail that countered the notion of the Moors on his ship having secret navigational knowledge. It's odd they would doctor one part and leave the other parts where he mentions black people and mosques alone. It also doesn't make sense that you have all these old sources to begin with given that Europeans were supposed to scrub them. And yet, many of these sources were mass published in Europe as adventure literature. We know these explorer accounts are filled with fantastical stuff, people were trying to sell books. It's puzzling that people would use these to make scientific determinations of ethnicity, especially when you acknowledge that in modern times not all melanated populations are related.





I don't get what point you are making because this is such a shallow observation to begin with. This is a thread about people looking alike with no historical or genetic information provided. You also haven't helped clarify in your responses to me. Your rebuttal to my initial post wasn't even a rebuttal, just you re-stating your question without addressing the most common sense explanation why people thousands of miles apart would share some phenotypical features.

Why did these groups in the op that were situated so close to the Americas and show up in black American ancestry results look so much like black Americans?
Isn't the simplest explanation that Africans mixed with Natives post-1619 once already here in the Americas?

It's corroborated by history and genetics. It doesn't require any additional assumptions and explains why some black Americans would resemble people who descended from ancient Asian populations, and eventually mixed with Africans.

What do you propose?


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 Boogie1790 said
That's who I'm talking about ain't no irony
The irony is that stupid fu#k claiming we're Russian/Europeans, when he's using European racism to claim West Africans didn't have the technological advancement or Intelligence to travel to or contribute to Egypt.
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 BlacksAndLatins said
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Hispanics started lowriders




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you wouldn't know about any of this way out in russia
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don't even get me started on Black owned taco trucks
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or gangbanging either
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gangs like White Fence have been around for decades before The Avenues/Crips or the Vice Lords as well
Lowriders came from 1950s white American greaser culture and black Americans don't give a fu#k about lowriders. The only black Americans that ever gave a fu#k about lorries were the few black Americans in southern Cali that were surrounded by Mexicans, and I seriously they got it from you anyway when most of the things mexican Americans claim as their culture came from black Americans in the first place.

Its becoming more clear that you're a wetback.

Black American gang life in Cali doesn't have sh1t to do with a fuxkin wetback. Crips were formed due to black Americans protecting themselves from racist white mobs when they first got to Cali. The Bloods formed due to the existence Crips. Vice Lords ain't got sh1t to do with no fu#kin latinos.

Wetback gang culture has been stealing from black American gang culture from day one and still do till this day.

Lol at black owned taco trucks. That's a hustle. Why not sell tacos when you're surrounded by wetbacks. Black Americans don't give a fu#k about wetback food outside of that. Black Americans make everything we touch better so I'm sure they out there putting their own black American spin on it and doing it better than yall.
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they originated from africa making the journey by sea slowly over time

they mixed in with chinese filipino and indian dna on the way to the islands
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 Tlatoani said
Well the Columbus journals have been used to support your proposition. You called them doctored in another thread for containing one detail that countered the notion of the Moors on his ship having secret navigational knowledge. It's odd they would doctor one part and leave the other parts where he mentions black people and mosques alone. It also doesn't make sense that you have all these old sources to begin with given that Europeans were supposed to scrub them. And yet, many of these sources were mass published in Europe as adventure literature. We know these explorer accounts are filled with fantastical stuff, people were trying to sell books. It's puzzling that people would use these to make scientific determinations of ethnicity, especially when you acknowledge that in modern times not all melanated populations are related.





I don't get what point you are making because this is such a shallow observation to begin with. This is a thread about people looking alike with no historical or genetic information provided. You also haven't helped clarify in your responses to me. Your rebuttal to my initial post wasn't even a rebuttal, just you re-stating your question without addressing the most common sense explanation why people thousands of miles apart would share some phenotypical features.



Isn't the simplest explanation that Africans mixed with Natives post-1619 once already here in the Americas?

It's corroborated by history and genetics. It doesn't require any additional assumptions and explains why some black Americans would resemble people who descended from ancient Asian populations, and eventually mixed with Africans.

What do you propose?
I propose 366,000 Africans were brought to the United States alone. Today there are close to 40 million of their descendants in the states.

If you think I am proposing that black Americans are "the real native Americans" you're wrong.

If you think its impossible that black people from all over Asia, the Pacific Islands, Australia, and other Indian Ocean regions to have been living in America when the white man got here then you are out of your mind. Native American is not a race. It is technically a nationality that can be and obviously was applied to anyone that was living in the Americas when the Europeans first got here.

If you think that it was impossible for those of the black natives that survived genocide and foreign disease to have been usurped into the black American populations slave/gene pool then you are crazy. Especially crazy since those genetic markers show up in black American ancestry results very often and we have evidence supporting that they were here. You also have legal documents were they reclassified these people negro. Plus, you know just by taking a look at Asia that you had a black population and a mongol population that were indigenous to all of these bodies of land. Also, take into consideration that plenty of the Mexicans in Cali and Texas look like mullatos anyway. A lot of your ancestors that you think were mongol were probably some black looking Asian descended people. You can look at ancient artifacts from down there like the Bonampak Murals and can tell those people were some type of black Pacific Island or Asian people. They look nothing like 5 foot brown skin Mexicans you see at Walmart.

I don't want your history. I just like learning about the intricacies of my home, America.


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So I'm supposed to believe that different types of black folks were indigenous to every body of land on this map except the precious ol God's gift to the white man, the Americas
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All of Asia and the Pacific hosted indigenous blacks. On the other side of the Americas is Africa, which is also home to indigenous blacks, but right smack dab in the middle is the Americas and they just so happen to not have indigenous blacks
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Native American group from California that look like black Polynesians


Native American people from South America that look Polynesian



Natives of Virginia. Never seen any Native Americans this swole and thick




More Cali natives




The white/yellow washing of the mongol type Native American
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 FashCashVasquez said
The only black americans who are of
African descent are in Coastal south Carolina,
Virginia, DC. Eastcoast


My people from present day Atlanta
Area (creek)

And Bigg Gipp he's a Georgia
Black indian. His people from GA
"This practice of combining African slave men and Native American women was especially common in South Carolina.[36]"



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 aaf192020 said
Not every Polynesian was this dark or had an African phenotype but a lot were. 400 years of interbreeding with white and Asians will change a lot.

You still see some that still have the same looks as before. Some you can make out certain traits or features too.

I see the shxt everyday. It's exactly what happened to all the Native Americans too.

Also the churches basically erased a lot of their history. Europeans are wild bunch of hypocrites. Trash culture.
African isn’t a phenotype
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