Why Did These Black Pacific Islanders Look So Much Like Many Black Americans? 1492. - page 5

Bruh you’re a special Kind of ret@rded those are recent pictures..what did those same group of ppl look like 300 yrs ago or even a 1000 yrs ago ...world history shows us tht interbreeding and race mixing happens everywhere some more so than others ,

look at Egyptians for example they Damn near white today but it’s literally connected to Sudan where those ppl are black a$s sh1t and is actually the same group of ppl who moved up in to Egypt til the Roman and Greece took over and now you have the new Egyptian look

What reliance?

I didn't claim anything.

What am I relying on this perceived "European source" for?

Why is there a negative connotation attached to this "European source"?

What would this "European source" gain from "lying" about black peoples(African or not) being indigenous to the Americas?

Nope.

DNA tests of people with 100% genetic ancestry from nearby tribes determined that was a lie

Try again.

Now you’re nitpicking Europe is all connected

Nah

I didn't post these people simply because they are black(not African). It's the fact that these particular groups I posted look exactly like black Americans.

Melanesians are black(not African) but most of them look drastically different from us. The Jarawa and other tribes in India, Andaman Islands etc don't look sh1t like black Americans. Negritos don't look sh1t like black Americans. Australian Aborigines are black but don't look sh1t like black Americans.

Why did these groups in the op that were situated so close to the Americas and show up in black American ancestry results look so much like black Americans?

Just like you said black past wasn’t credible how is this bs credible ,

we literally have scientific and historical facts that said a lot of natives look African ..that’s why they were bunched up with slaves and some slaves even found refuge with the natives Bc some of them looked so much alike

...like the tainos and the other groups that ppl already mentioned on here ..you’re really not that bright ..the facts are out there ..Haitian slaves hid in the mountains with tainos Bc a lot them looked alike ...climate and interbreeding changes ppls features over years ..they literally teach us this in biology

The guy who doesn't know the difference between Greece and France/Germany/Scandinavia wants to talk about "ret@rded"

so what happened to all these imaginary, "pure", "Black" Mescalero Apaches then? did they ride their unicorns back to Wakanda?

Oh you wanna look at Egypt now huh

WARNING: (brutal L incoming)



The tombs of ancient Egypt have yielded golden collars and ivory bracelets, but another treasure — human DNA — has proved elusive. Now, scientists have captured sweeping genomic information from Egyptian mummies. It reveals that mummies were closely related to ancient Middle Easterners, hinting that northern Africans might have different genetic roots from people south of the Sahara desert.

The study, published on 30 May in Nature Communications1, includes data from 90 mummies buried between 1380 bc, during Egypt’s New Kingdom, and ad 425, in the Roman era. The findings show that the mummies’ closest kin were ancient farmers from a region that includes present-day Israel and Jordan. Modern Egyptians, by contrast, have inherited more of their DNA from central Africans.

Archaeological discoveries and historical documents suggest close ties between Egypt and the Middle East, but “it is very nice that this study has now provided empirical evidence for this at the genetic level”, says evolutionary anthropologist Omer Gokcumen of the State University of New York at Buffalo.

Egypt’s searing climate and the ancient practice of embalming bodies has made the recovery of intact genetic material daunting. The first DNA sequences thought to be from a mummy2 were probably the result of modern contamination, and many scientists are sceptical3 of purported genetic information acquired from the mummy of King Tutankhamun4.

The latest analysis succeeded by bypassing soft tissue — often abundant in Egyptian mummies — to seek DNA from bone and teeth. Researchers carefully screened the DNA to rule out contamination from anyone who had handled the mummies since their excavation a century ago in the ancient town of Abusir el-Meleq.

“More than half of the mummies we studied had pretty decent DNA preservation,” says co-author Johannes Krause, a palaeogeneticist at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany.

The team “succeeds where previous studies on Egyptian mummies have failed or fallen short”, says Hannes Schroeder, a palaeo*geneticist at the University of Copenhagen. Now, researchers can hope to answer questions such as whether immigration drove ancient-Egyptian population growth, adds Sonia Zakrzewski, a bioarchaeologist at the University of Southampton, UK.

The scientists obtained information about variations in mitochondrial DNA, which is passed from mother to child, from 90 mummies. Because of contamination, the team was able to acquire detailed nuclear DNA, which is inherited from both parents, from only three mummies.

Both types of genomic material showed that ancient Egyptians shared little DNA with modern sub-Saharan Africans. Instead, their closest relatives were people living during the Neolithic and Bronze ages in an area known as the Levant. Strikingly, the mummies were more closely related to ancient Europeans and Anatolians than to modern Egyptians.

The researchers say that there was probably a pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA into Egypt roughly 700 years ago. The mixing of ancient Egyptians and Africans from further south means that modern Egyptians can trace 8% more of their ancestry to sub-Saharan Africans than can the mummies from Abusir el-Meleq.

The new data can’t explain why the ancient Egyptians were so tightly aligned with people from the Middle East. Was it the result of migration, or were the Stone Age hunter-gatherers of northern Africa genetically similar to those of the Levant? It’s too early to tell, Krause says, but there’s a better chance now of getting answers. “This is the first glimpse of the genetic history of Egypt,” he says. “But it’s really just the start.”

I never said sh1t about Apache

or whatever tf you talking about and they literally found remains in Europe but that want suffice and you using white washed science that been debunked countless of times Bc these “ scientists” want to justify that Egypt couldn’t been the work of the sub Saharan African even though it’s all connected and literally the Egyptian empire started in Sudan by black ppl and they just moved up and the proof Is in the architecture of ancient city’s like Timbuktu and middle eastern ppl were black too they’re just white washed by the Persians ..I’m done here fam I’m losing brain cells talking tryna even conjure up a response to this dumb sh1t already did this sh1t on reddit and shut nighas down but you got it lol

I’m done here

No offense but this is not the kind of question that any learned, educated, or scholarly person would ever ask.

You didn't finish high school, did you?

Nature is literally one of the most renowned publications... in the world. I mean this isn't even up for debate. It's literally a fact that Nature is, like, the GO TO resource in the world.

This is like you not knowing what a college is or something. I honestly should not waste 1 more second trying to engage with you. Like... Wow. Do you even realize how badly you just exposed yourself just now?


Post the receipts then.

First you call me "ret@rded" and then you show that you don't even know what an island is.

Now you have the balls to say I'm "not that bright" but you don't even know what a peer-reviewed scientific journal is?

Wtf are you talking about ..I’m losing brain cells talking to you fam with all this mental gymnastics..you’re dumb bro ..this isn’t constructive ..I’m good and I didn’t even watch tht bullsh1t Bc you can literally find anything to support your bullsh1t arguments and remember that science gets debunked everyday and a lot of these things are theories but idc to even prove you wrong Bc im wasting my time

Our mix came from Asia before the white man came along. Theres a lot of cultures/races around Taiwan/Phillipines it is said that they were the only that setout on double hulled canoes to found the peoples of the Pacific.

I mean we all descended from black people so is it that much a surprise that the majority of the world of brown skinned? I feel like it this is an American identity issue thats trying to be enforced on us because we don't really see simple race politics like black and white like it seems to come from America. We are who we are. We are the children of Moana Pasifika.

AHT! AHT!

Geography fail.

Stopped reading right here.

You obviously didn't look at that map.

The United Kingdom, made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, is an island nationin northwestern Europe. England – birthplace of Shakespeare and The Beatles – is home to the capital, London, a globally influential centre of finance and culture. England is also site of Neolithic Stonehenge, Bath’s Roman spa and centuries-old universities at Oxford and Cambridge. ― Google

is·​land

1 : a tract of land surrounded by water and smaller than a continent
2 : something resembling an island especially in its isolated or surrounded position: such as
a : a usually raised area within a thoroughfare, parking lot, or driveway used especially to separate or direct traffic
b : a superstructure on the deck of a ship (such as an aircraft carrier)
c : a kitchen counter that is approachable from all sides
3 : an isolated group or area especially : an isolated ethnological group

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now.....

point out where on either of these 2 maps you see the U.K. "connecting" to Europe

Slapped without reading.

1. First you couldn't tell the difference between Greece and the rest of Europe.

2. Then you didn't even know what an island is.

3. Then you didn't even know what a scientific journal is.

4. Now you don't even know what the Mescalaro APACHES are.

5. And you have the grammatical abilities of an elementary schooler in special ed.


I'm also going through your post history and slapping all your other posts to get your slap-to-prop ratio (do you even know what a ratio is :memedudehah) up so other people will know you're a troll off rip and won't be tempted into wasting valuable time trying to debate you

You’re a loser and you know I was killing you’re dumb a$s points that’s why you mad lol but do ya thing you dweeb a$s nigha ����

You’re so dumb again nitpicking ...98% of it is connected and you have a few islands and the further back in time you go the closer they actually were together lol like I said I’m done ...you’re truly ret@rded

when I get home, I'll be taking you to school

don't run away either

p.s. nothing I said was racist so shut that bullsh1t up

Yes it was. The fact that you claim that these people were not black is stupid.

Our mix came from Asia before the white man came along. Theres a lot of cultures/races around Taiwan/Phillipines it is said that they were the only that setout on double hulled canoes to found the peoples of the Pacific.

I mean we all descended from black people so is it that much a surprise that the majority of the world of brown skinned? I feel like it this is an American identity issue thats trying to be enforced on us because we don't really see simple race politics like black and white like it seems to come from America. We are who we are. We are the children of Moana Pasifika.

but not France, Germany, Wales, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Finland, etc. tho

how can you "cover the whole planet" when it's millions and millions of square miles that went "uncovered"?

that's like hiring someone to paint your "whole house" and they only do the front door and bounce

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