Kyrie Irving Isn't Muslim Anymore? - page 6

Satan is the oldest form of mind control. I've been here to long and experienced too much for that to not be true.

The Romans did NOT create the idea of the Holy Trinity they formalized and enforced it that isn’t the same fam.

So again you have no factual evidence!

Religion is the oldest form of mind control

Mighty weird how Christianity was formed before Islam but let you tell it Islam got it right lmmfao

Its wild yall come up with this crazy sht and preach it as truth!

"jesus saves" = jesus is the path to salvation/heaven.

muslims obviously don't believe that.

so i asked the question whether he was still muslim.

You don’t know shyt

None of us do

Shut the hell up wit that garbage

Sounds like a good movie, you wrote this?

I got you with sources

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Constantine.....was Roman right? Yes, yes he was. One of the founders of the catholic church under the Judea, ruled by the Roman Empire, well after Jesus died.

The groundwork for official acceptance of the Trinity was now laid—but it took more than three centuries after Jesus Christ's death and resurrection for this unbiblical teaching to emerge!



WOW Did the UNITED CHURCH OF GOD just call the holy trinity UNBIBLICAL?!

Like I said, you just want to talk sh1t.

The same empire who killed Jesus wants Christians to embrace the anti christ as the messiah.

Like I said, the trick has been laid centuries ago.

Muslims believe he's a prophet.
A prophet saves people.

that's not what the phrase "jesus saves" means. it's very specific.

Muslims believe he is the savior lol. Muhammad was just the last prophet. Biggest deception in Islam

All the original followers of Jesus never believed in his divinity. They all believed he was a prophet sent by God.

Not his mom
Not his brother James
Not Mary Magdalen
None of his disciples
None of his siblings

So what the ROMAN church is saying they KNEW Jesus better than his own mother and friends.

Some people are just deaf, dumb and blind.
Scientists call that cognitive dissonance

Islam teaches Jesus was the Messiah, a mighty prophet to guide the lost sheep, the jews, back to the right path but they rejected and tried to have him killed.

We believe God saved Jesus and he will come back in the future to fight the jews and Anti-Christ. And jesus and the Muslims will utterly destroy them.

Bible says "there is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood".

So you believe God killed a complete innocent human so God can forgive you?

That's not called forgiveness, that's called payment.

What's the difference between a pagan and yourself, you both believe in human sacrifice?

For instance, Jesus himself never said he came to die for your sins. Others said it.

Jesus never said he was God or to worship him. Others said it.

Jesus never preached God is 3.
In fact he repeated what Moses said "o hear our Lord, God is one".

Jesus in John 17:3 says the Father is the only true God. That is jesus own words.

Then the pagan Roman who believed in God's having sons born to human and half gods adopted Christianity, changed Jesus teaching and spoon fed you.

“Satan” is in all of us it’s just whether we choose to make that conscience decision

Satan influence people and the world, the Bible does not say he resides within. Satan works through temptations, lies, and the sinful nature of humans to lead people away from God.

"The old system under the law of Moses was only a shadow, a dim preview of the good things to come, not the good things themselves. The sacrifices under that system were repeated again and again, year after year, but they were never able to provide perfect cleansing for those who came to worship. If they could have provided perfect cleansing, the sacrifices would have stopped, for the worshipers would have been purified once for all time, and their feelings of guilt would have disappeared. But instead, those sacrifices actually reminded them of their sins year after year. For it is not possible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. That is why, when Christ came into the world, he said to God, “You did not want animal sacrifices or sin offerings. But you have given me a body to offer. You were not pleased with burnt offerings or other offerings for sin. Then I said, ‘Look, I have come to do your will, O God— as is written about me in the Scriptures.’” - Hebrews 10:1-7

"For You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; You take no pleasure in burnt offerings. / The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise." - Psalm 51:16-17

"For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings." - Hosea 6:6



"For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve others and to give his life as a ransom for many.” - Matthew 20:28

"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep." - John 10:11

"From that time Jesus began to show his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised." - Matthew 16:21

"But Jesus replied, “The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. / Truly, truly, I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a seed. But if it dies, it bears much fruit." - John 12:23-24



"Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” - John 8:58

"I and the Father are one.” - John 10:30

"Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?" - John 14:9

"Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” - John 20:28 *Jesus never corrects him*

"Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will never ever die. Do you believe this, Martha?” - John 11:26

"Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me." - John 14:6



"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." - Matthew 28:19 ("In the name of" meaning "by the power/authority of")



"And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed." - John 17:5

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...
...And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth." - John 1:1,14




"When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown." - Genesis 6:1-4

EDIT: the "sons of God" are merely angels in this passage BTW

My whole life been a lie. I thought muslims believed muhammad was like their jesus

Jesus is the way. Good on him

Religion is the oldest form of mind control

Religion is the oldest form of mind control

1. I AM is not a name of God but the Church taught you otherwise.
Church taught you it refers to when Moses asks God who he should tell Pharoah sent him.
In the Hebrew Bible, the phrase "I AM WHO I AM" is a translation of Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh (אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה), which God uses to identify Himself to Moses in Exodus 3:14. This phrase can also be translated as "I will be what I will be" or "I am what I am". It signifies God's self-existence and eternal nature.

In the very next verse God tells Moses his name Yahwa. Tells Moses fo tell Pharoah Yahwa sent you.
I am who I am is a reference
Yahwa is the name

Also if you claim I AM means God then let's replace what Jesus said with it.
It would would Jesus says "before Abraham was, God". Doesn't mean Jesus is claiming to be God.

2. Jesus in the same chapter a few verses later says that "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. John 17:21

This one Jesus refers to is one in purpose not essence. Jesus isn't claim he is also God.


3. Jesus explains later in the verse that it's his works that they see God through him.
Jesus is saying you've seen the Father in my actions.
Do you really believe Jesus and the Fathe look identical and that the Father looks like a 33 year old middle eastern man?

4. Thomas is using the exclamation mark. You even put it in your quote.
It's a phrase Thomas said out of shock. He was surprised and caught of guard.
Because this verse takes place after the crucifixion and after the disciples told Thomas Jesus was dead. Thomas was in a room alone and suddenly Jesus appeared and startled Thomas and he said "oh my God".
Every culture uses the phrase.
I speak pashto and I came out the bathroom in the middle of the night as my mom was coming out the bedroom and I startled her.
You yelled "oh my God" in pashto to me.
She wasn't calling me God.

5. Anyone that believes in Jesus and the prophets will not die in the sense they will be in heaven together for eternity. Doesn't mean physical death.
Come on, why even use this verse to try to prove he's God.
So you won't die right because you believe?

6. I as a muslim believe Jesus was the way, the truth and the life for the people God sent him down for.
Jesus was the WAY TO GOD for them
Jesus spoke nothing except the TRUTH ABOUT GOD
Jesus life was an example for us.


7. The baptism is an interpolation, someone added it to the bible to try put the Trinity in there just like 1 john 5-7.
He's whyif this was a direct command from Jesus to his followers then you expect them to do as he says, at least some.
But NO, not a single discipline uses that formula.
Read the Bible, there are dozens of baptism my various disciples and they were ALL DONE "IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST".
Even Paul does baptisms in the bible and each time it's "IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST"

So logically, either Jesus did say it and all his followers disobeyed him or Jesus never said it.
What makes more sense to you?
Everyone of his disciples and Paul going against Jesus or made up?


8. When Jesus said Glorify me before the world, muslim believe all the souls were created before the universe and Jesus soul was blessed even then with God's infinite wisdom.


9. In the beginning verse was plagiarized by Paul from Philo the Greek philosopher. It was in his book before Pau stole it.

gods in bible could refer to angels and jewish rabbis.
That's why Jesus rebukes the jews when they pick up stones to kill him because they falsely believed like yourself that Hesus was claim to be God.
Do you know how Jesus replies to them.
Jesus says "AREN'T YOU CALLED GODS IN YOUR BOOK. AND ALL I SAID IS IM THE SON OF GOD"

Son of God refers to a righteous person.
Also refers to prophets.
Even the bible says the definition for you.
Blessed are the peace keepers for they shall be called the sons of God.

Everything you've been taught by the church is twisted by them like the Pharisees.
Even Lord in the bible refers to prophets and even Satan is called lord of this world.

Abraham is called lord just like Jesus.
The exact same word in the Greek manuscripts, spelled the exact same way but the Church tricks you by capitalizing th "L" when referring to Jesus.
This is deception.

Just like many prophets are called the son of God, just like Jesus
David is even called the begotten son of God.
Again, spelled the same way but Church capitalizes the "S" when referring to Jesus.

I hope to can start to look at this information and do your own research. You will see that you've been deceived.
Or you can ignore everything I said and let cognitive dissonance take over.
I hope you chose the former.

Did you know it was ILLEGAL for anyone to own or read a bible until the year 1,500?
The church would burn you at the stake

Lol. Kyrie dad is full blooded African descent just like most black people in America, very few have a little bit of indigenous DNA like Kyrie.

you must be hurt in real life. what's a full blooded 'african descent'? im lost