Kevin Durant failed with OKC, Brooklyn, and now Phoenix - page 6

at this point, anybody still saying this is just refusing to be honest.

His basketball career a failure

Not his life

When a bunch of people on this site was saying KD the greatest, most unstoppable, most difficult to guard, player off all time it was people like me telling y'all to simmer down.

They ain’t need KD for sh1t and they got another ring without him KD needed them

His basketball career is a failure?

With 4 scoring titles, 10X All-NBA, 14X all-star, a ROY award, two Finals MVP and an regular season MVP, and a member of the NBA 75th Anniversary team

Only on BX is that possible

His basketball career is a failure?

With 4 scoring titles, 10X All-NBA, 14X all-star, a ROY award, two Finals MVP and an regular season MVP, and a member of the NBA 75th Anniversary team

Only on BX is that possible

He doesn’t know how elevate a team as the leader. Great player but he likes to go along for the ride. The bus driver analogy everyone keeps using. Look at every stop besides Golden State, and lie say you don’t see a pattern?

This

He lost to Golden State up 3 to 1. Then went to the same team to beat Lebron. Any team where he was the primary lead he did not have any success. The Nets was a mess but what has he done with Phoenix? They have underperformed since he arrived. I remember Phoenix being a leader in the West, what happened??

OKC was never a superteam and Brooklyn failed due to circumstances beyond his control.

I don't know why "need" seems to be this all or nothing thing when it comes to him. Both things can be and actually were/are true. They "NEEDED" him for the two chips they won which was made somewhat clear in that Toronto series...

And they didn't "NEED" him for the other 2.



Basketball fans on both sides of the argument play stupid for the sake of pushing a narrative and I hate it lol

Hes the only reason they’re considered a dynasty

Bro cut it out. It might've been an argument if 2015 & 2022 didn't happen but they're literally more successful without him than they were with him... 2 chips, Finals appearances, best record ever, etc.

In reality though,


He is one of, if not the most difficult players to guard.

His ability to score is second to who?

2 rings in 7 seasons isn’t a dynasty
KD is the reason they won back to back and he held up 2 finals mvps for a reason

If kd wasn’t important steph would’ve carried them past Toronto but he wasn’t built like that

Melo
Jordan
Tmac
Kobe
Luka

Steph still would have 2 and he would have ZERO. You weren't good in arithmetic were you?
And miat people don't really pay attention to the actual games but Steph actually outscored him in that brief "Boogeyman" return. Ya'll run with narratives that aren't based in facts.

That elevating a team stuff strips away alot of context. Elevating a team isn't absolute.
I watch him "lead' a young squad to the finals before the age of 25 and then come within 2 minutes of doing it again against a 70+ win team the year after missing an entire season.

I watched him drag BK to a game 7 after Kyrie went down next to a Harden on one leg that couldn't even run the year after blowing an Achilles. That was elevating a team to me and they came within seconds of beating the eventual champion.

sh1t, his old a$s has played more games than anybody else on the team since becoming a sun

Winning chips isn't in the cards for everybody, there's only 1 champ every season and there's a bunch of players that "elevate" their teams as much as they can.

Gsw won before kd (beat him in their only match-up)

And gsw won after he left...

Kd didn't win before or after

Exactly.

It’s possible his next move is back to OKC for a bunch of the 1st round picks they’re due. It leans into him again being the clean up man for Shai this time around. But forcing a trade there like what happened in Phoenix is going to fu#k up their cap space & assets and make them extremely top heavy.

OKC was a super team.

Why on Earth would OKC disrupt what they got going on?

Serious question.

Ok?

What you responded to, was in response to this



Which of these are untrue?

OKC was never a super team

And Brooklyn failed due to circumstances that were beyond his control.

What does any of what you just stated have to do with THAT specific statement?

OKC was never a superteam and Brooklyn failed due to circumstances beyond his control.

No, they didn't "need" him. He was an integral part of that team, sure. But to say they needed him would mean that they couldn't have done it with a less talented SF...which they've proven they can do.

They won with Harrison Barnes and with Andrew Wiggins. Durant is better than those 2 players but GSW showed that they only needed a SF at least as good as Harrison Barnes...they don't need a KD level SF.

It's like saying you need a bazooka to kill a pigeon. No, you can get the job done with a smaller weapon. You need a gun, you don't need it to be the most powerful one on the market.