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No matter how furiously you spin radio play = exposure.
I don’t know nor do I care if singles were being sold and counted towards RIAA certifications when that song came out.
Facts are radio play has been and always will be a vehicle to singles being sold physical or digital.
All of these physical singles have sold over four million copies according to either reliable third-party claims or RIAA multi-platinum certifications.
With estimated sales of over 25 million copies, Bing Crosby's "White Christmas" is the highest selling single in North America.
"I Will Always Love You" Whitney Houston 1992 4x physical
In music, a single is a song considered commercially viable enough by the artist and record company to be released separately from an album, usually featured on an album as well.
You take a look at that list and you decide which one of those singles doesn’t have a direct correlation with radio play.
And as far as this song he got to 2x platinum in 2018 because of digital streams.
Nobody is "furiously" spinning anything except you. Why do you keep ignoring what the actual point is and keep trying to make this about something I never said ?
When did I ever say radio play does NOT get you more general exposure ? Never , so why do you keep going off on that tangent ? That's the first thing you're trying to spin. I never made that statement so why are you trying to create an argument out of thin air out of a point I never claimed ?
I never said radio play doesn't get you more general exposure, so stop repeating this over and over.
I ALSO never said that there's never been situations where radio play in certain situations CAN get exposure and that as a result has helped certain singles sell more BUT it doesn't create any consistently direct correlation across the board.
How do we know that's not a consistent standard ? because there are singles from the 90s or earlier that were WAYYYYY huger songs on radio than certain songs post 90s up to today were. Yet the WAYYYY huger song on radio that got CRAZY more radio play have LESS certifications due to things like streaming and the fact that not all singles got released at retail. Also since radio play doesn't officially nor directly count towards certifications. Some songs may spin more at radio than another but "sell" less through retail or streaming. So it's not a direct correlation.
That explains why a song like Stan can only hit 51 on radio and yet sell 4x platinum through streaming later.
One more time. Don't keep going off on a tangent about general exposure, my posts were never about that.
One more time so you dont miss it. If you want to argue my point, argue it correctly. My point was there is no consistent direct correlation between how much radio play something gets and the level of certifications it holds due to many factors including streaming and also that a very small percentage of individual songs were actually released pre-streaming as singles. It was never about general exposure or how in certain situations it has helped exposure here and there but never actually established a consistent or direct correlation.
If you can show me where THAT statement is wrong. Answer THAT, not go off on some tangent about "general exposure" and how in this handful of wikipedia examples it happened. Those are the exception not the rule. Meaning it doesn't happen EVERY time especially not since streaming blew up.
The whole question posed in the thread title explains that WHOLE point. That radio play doesn't always directly correlate with certifications so why do you keep going off on tangents about "exposure, exposure, exposure...". That's NOT the point.
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