So.....Wrestling is Superior to BJJ? an MMA examination - page 2

What's the deal with this weird "in the Streets there's no ref ' stuff? Y'all sound dumb as fu#k with that sh1t...it's the same as, " I don't throw hands I'ma shooter ".

If you get taken down...which you absolutely will be taken down... you'll be in more pain than you've ever experienced in your life.

The ref isn't there to save the better fighter who secured an advantage...you know that, right? You've obviously never been in side mount with knees crashing into the side of your head before lol. Or fighting to get out of a guillotine. You have no idea what a heel hook feels like apparently.

BJJ guys don’t have hands and can’t take a punch…

You take me down this ain’t a ufc cage with a ref… I can do anything to get free

Mayweather not a puncher anymore…

If u want to get into fighting and your main motivation and priority is that you "wanna gouge someone's eye" and just hurt people, they ain't gon deem you fit to fight

So I fought professionally for 8 years. I boxed, shoot wrestling, MMA as well as Thai boxing ( Muay Boran ). Everything goes through seasons.

Your question was which is better than the other. Control is what wrestling is based around...BJJ is all about sett traps and executing them. Completely different base.

There are out liars like combat wrestling or combat Jit...but we're talking about the specific discipline.

For mixed M...it ebbs and flows like all things. Back when Josh Kos was "that guy", everyone was talking about how every other style was inferior. When Rhonda was pulling the same basic koshi-nage in everyone, Rogan made you all think judo was the unbeatable art.

Just because you don't see everyone getting armbar-ed now doesn't at all mean it's not utilized in all aspects of high levels of MMA. It's like saying Thai isn't a viable choice for MMA because you've not seen a s kick lol in a few years...feel me?

Also since I'm sure this question will pop up for some time after last night's wrestling clinic, I'll remind you that Borz has trained in Sambo and is a BJJ black belt himself. You I ky earn BJJ belts from combat wins. BJJ is deadly.

Lastly,

This stuff:



This was wild weird to read. Not sure if you're just on some troll sh1t or what, but this was ret@rded.

1st.

A black belt in 3 years...in BJJ?

If you do that, that belt isn't worth sh1t. You should probably be bluebelt, 2 stripes by that time. And that's if you've been taking your training to tournaments and winning in your division... proving to your headmaster/coach that you've learned the lessons you've been training in.

I'd been to a few spots here in. Vegas where the coach doesn't even make you do belt test. You're just tossed a belt when the dude thinks you're good enough. I've then seen those schools at the NAGA, Gracie Open or Grappler's Quest...and them student's are getting scorched. That's called wasting your time and money to not be anywhere good enough to be there. And of course... those where the students who had the tuff guy attitude.

2nd.

I'm not white. Grew up in Cabrini G, Chicago. I have no issues with collar choking someone unconscious so I can go home. I've also been sued for fracturing a dudes eye socket out at ASU because he swung on me. Having to answer in court why " you've possibly done irreparable damage with a skill that you should have known can seriously harm someone". That's not in some silly, "registered hands"... that's real sh1t.

That's that bullsh1t that has most people who've trained in anything be more apt to utilize something that doesn't have to be so brutal unless you want it to be. That....is not pu$$y.

3rd.

If you're considering learning any art at all, you need to put all that negative BS out of your mind...imo. MMA has become a haven for maga right wing nutcases who thinks that watching fights makes you an alpha. That's hugely because of the Joe Rogan brain That's infested that demographic. That's just true. Boxing culture has always been full of n1ggas who can't fight for sh1t but think watching Tank drop Garcia makes them some sort of pugilist themselves. IYKYK I'm 100% correct.


4th.

Culture's gravitate towards what they do. Black men seem to gravitate towards just boxing by and large. White American-wrestling. White Russian - Sambo/wrestling. Southeast Asian- karate/judo/kungfu/tekwondo. Brazilian -bjj/kickboxing. Thai- Thai boxing. Puerto Rican Latino - boxing. Cuban Latino- Boxing/wrestling.

Some of those combat arts cancel each other out or can negate the others if proficient at the art. It doesn't make the Cuban wrestler a pu$$y because he immediately shoots in for a double leg takedown on the Puerto Rican boxer. Hopefully that truly sounds ridiculous to you.

That's really all I got on this. Just utilizing my own life's experience. I know this is BX and everyone's a cynic prick when it comes to stuff like this.. so hopefully I did not come off this way but I'm being honest from my own personal experience.

Good luck on your journey if in fact you do take it.

First off all, I've already started my journey. I've been trained in boxing, karate and Wing Chun. Right now my entire fighting approach is built on scrambling, hooks, uppercuts and shoving and low kicks. I don't have a ground game. I need that.

Appreciate the post. Yeah a three year black belt won't be necessary. I'll settle for w/e I land in three years as long as I've drilled enough to be very dangerous and defensively responsible. I'll take aim at open mat victories or tournament wins or something. I really just want to learn CACC now because that I can see fitting into exactly what I want to go for in crafting myself into the weapon I want to be.