Father and son murdered in Brooklyn after male egos clash is this self defense? - page 16

They shot him but didnt kill him. Hes in custody. The only reason I'm glad they didnt kill him because now we get to hear his side of the story to see what really happened and get the full story. He can claim self defense but he'll still go down for the gun. He can claim the big dude threatened to go get a gun so he had to shoot him before he came back and shot him. Then he can claim he thought the son was charging towards him to wrestle his gun away from him and kill him with it.





The problem is y'all are believing these dudes are really black. These dudes that say negative things about black people or the black community are not black. They're white and non black dudes pretending to be black. This is why they never say nothing negative about white or non black people or the white or non black community.

A white dude just killed 22 innocent white people for absolutely no reason the other day and these dudes didn't say "Life is cheap in the white community". But a black man kill 2 other black men over a year old problem they've been having with each other and all of a sudden it's "Black people this" and "The black community that".

So you telling me when a white man kill 22 innocent white people for absolutely no reason . All these dudes talk about is gun laws, mental illness, and government/politics. A bunch of deflections and derailments. And they have nothing to say about white people or the white community. But when a black man kill 2 black men over a on going problem that been going on for a year or 2 then all of a sudden it's "Life is cheap in the black community"?

So black people killing 1 or 2 adult black people over women, drugs, beef, territory, disrespect, money, etc... equals "Life is cheap in the black community".

But

White people killing white babies, kids, teens, adults, and elderly people for absolutely no reason at all equals "White people stay on code" and "White people stick together" and "White people know how to act" and "White people value life".

FOH

People know the reasons why black people kill each other which is the things I named already which is women, drugs, beef, territory, disrespect, money, etc...

But if you ask anybody "Why do white people kill each other? Why do white people kill other white people". Nobody can answer that. Which proves that the real is "Life is actually more valuable in the black community and life is actually cheap in the white community. And black people are the ones who really stay on code. Black people are the ones that really stick together. And black people are the ones who really know how to act".


He didn't know the dude had a gun. He was just trying to scare the dude away from his home because his kids and family is there.

Damn you got an article for some background on that video?

3 dead in murder-suicide over snow removal dispute, prosecutors say

Jeffrey Spaide shot and killed his neighbors in Plains Township, Pennsylvania, over a snow removal dispute, prosecutors said.

Prosecutors said a man in Pennsylvania shot and killed a couple in a murder-suicide over a snow removal dispute on Monday, the same day a major winter storm dumped more than 30 inches of snow in parts of the Northeast.

Jeffrey Spaide fatally shot his neighbors, James Goy and his wife, Lisa Goy, before killing himself on Monday morning when officers were called to West Bergh Street in Plains Township, about 15 miles southwest of Scranton, according to the Luzerne County District Attorney’s Office.

District Attorney Stefanie Salavantis said Tuesday that the office determined no other suspects were involved and deemed the incident a murder-suicide. Salavantis said the office will close the case pending a report by the Luzerne County Coroner’s Office.

Shortly before 9 a.m. on Monday, officers responded to a report of shots fired when they found the bodies of the Goys on the street, prosecutors said. Law enforcement officials said they later heard a gun fire from Spaide’s house. Authorities later determined this to be his self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to prosecutors.

Surveillance video revealed that Spaide and the Goys were involved in disputes before the deadly encounter, prosecutors said.

The video shows that the Goys shoveled snow from their parking spots, pushed it across the street and threw it onto Spaide’s property. After Spaide asked the couple to stop throwing snow onto his property, the neighbors got into an argument where they appear to have exchanged obscene gestures and expletives.

Prosecutors said James Goy threatened Spaide and cocked his fist, prompting Spaide to retreat into his home and return outside with a pistol.

While the Goys acknowledged he had a gun, prosecutors said they continued to shout names at him from the middle of the street. Spaide opened fire and shot the Goys before returning to his home to get another gun to deal the killing blow, according to prosecutors.

After killing his neighbors, Spaide went back inside his home where he shot himself as police pulled up to the scene, prosecutors said.

The Luzerne County District Attorney’s Office, the Luzerne County Coroner, Plains Township Police, Plains Township Fire and Ambulance and Pennsylvania State Police Forensic Services Unit were all involved in the investigation.

lol I doubt that would pass. Someone pull out a gun and you say wait here while I go get mine. It don’t work like that. I just wanna know if he really did approach him with a weapon first. He’s going to jail either way but like you said we don’t know the full story. The father is a big MF and he just ran up on dude in his face. Other dude kept his distance by the steps.

If the father really did run up on him with a knife the defense has at least something to go by and if there was and prior threats made by the father or acts of intimidation….just maybe. But then he killed the son too. Even if he gets offf lighter on the dad they gonna light his a$s up for killing the son he ain’t ever seein the outside world again. We don’t need MFer like that on the street ever

Your right but in the court of law the lawyer might say in the act the son was running to the gunman and it can be a act of self defense because you don't know what the son was about to do even though it can play as he was just running to get out the way but why run at the gunman

The killer is Dead

They say he pulled a knife on police and got killed



Three n1ggas dead over noise complaints and a lack of emotional control to handle a civil dispute like men

Police shot and killed the suspect in the shocking execution-style killings of a father and stepson when he charged them with a knife during a traffic stop in Brooklyn early Wednesday.

Jason Pass, 47, was in a car on Bay 44th Street when police got a hit on his license plate and conducted a traffic stop, at which point the situation took a violent turn.

He charged at them with a knife,” a police source told The Post, calling it “suicide.”

Pass was rushed to NYU Langone Hospital in critical condition and later succumbed to his injuries after being hit four times, including three shots to the chest, police said.

“He didn’t give us a choice,” police said of Pass racing “full sprint” at officers with a 6-inch knife.

The former correction officer was identified by law enforcement yesterday as the suspect in the cold-blooded killings of 47-year-old school bus driver Bladimy Mathurin and his 27-year-old stepson, Chinwai Mode.

Bullets can go through doors and leaving a loved one crawling like that with the door shut on them is wild.

So you feel the same way about this?


This is a pure c_____ moment drenched in self hatred c00nery?

White people cannot get into a heated argument and walk away?

If that was anyone else, this white man would have been more understanding?

I'm black and this is a pure n1gga moment drenched in self hatred c00nery.

n1ggas cannot get into a heated argument and walk away.

If that was anyone else, he would have been more understanding.

of course thats self defense

u pull a shank / knife / scissors on me let alone up to my face and neck

im poppin u soon as i can

aint sh1t sad

u front ur move u gon die out here aint nobody playin

coward sh1t.

Dad was never a threat, son damn sure wasn't.

You already had the gun on you for a noise complaint?

He knew what he wanted to do.

And the no reason headshots???!

You're logically right, but nyc laws don't work that way. A double homicide is not self defense when the step son got head tapped just for trying to escape.


How was the dad "never" a threat when dude was the original aggressor with a pair of scissors at the shooters face/neck? Once dude retreated back then yeah wasn't a threat at that point. It's possible dad signaled his wife to go get the blick, but we have no audio to prove it.

Blacks only really be having smoke for other blacks... sh1t crazy

Look at how many chances he gives this guy. They should really exercise restraint like this guy did.

How ?

If you’re black you’re supposed to turn a blind eye to c00nery ?

We must first address the issue in order to solve it .

So I aint coming at you

Because I know that if we don't call it what it is , It will never get solved

If you’re a black woman why’re you arguing with a random n1gga. Got the husband and son killed cause you don’t know how to $TFU

We have psychopaths and serial killers in the black community but we aren’t ready for that conversation

Dude pulled out his gun when the dad's back was turned. You are fu#ked up in the head if you think that is self defense.

Understand everything you said except the bold...why/how are you sure?

Dude pulled out his gun when the dad's back was turned. You are fu#ked up in the head if you think that is self defense.

You should have already laid out what your broad can and can't do BEFORE y'all ever 1st entered the club together. This what's wrong with people,, they don't prepare for sh1t going left which it will eventually -- it's almost unavoidable. I got a mode of operation I layout to any woman Im with. This is what I'm gonna do, this is what I need you to do etc etc. If the b1tch cant understand how I move she getting the fck away from me no exceptions. I tell these broads I was born in a Top 10 worst area in my city and I have lived in another 3 areas on that list in my lifetime. I ain't survive this goddamn long by making mistakes