Another hip hop "what if thread" (long read)

What if suge knight never bailed tupac out?

I feel he would have been more in tuned with activists against a crooked government, rather than with a room full of gang bangers he felt he had to be loyal to….. could u imagine pac being asked as an activist what he feels about suge knight and them

“Yea shout out to all those brothers over there, suge knight and all them. I know we as black men each have our demons and issues in society to attend to so I can’t judge, but I do hope them brothers can unite against a greater and bigger evil. Let’s stop pulling guns on each other and point them at the REAL enemy, the ones happy and ecstatic to see a brother kill a brother”


Can you imagine that? Tupac only knowing about them from a distance? I feel if he ran with a crowd all about black unity and not bullying, there wouldn’t be no loyalty to death row, there wouldn’t be reason for pac stomping out Orlando over a chain….. and maybe pac woulda been around just a little longer

I think if suge ain't bail bro out he would have done the whole bid and come home and got low. He aint have an army of n1ggas and the ones he did have he aint trust after getting popped and robbed then knocked bc of the dudes he was with. He might not have done any music or movies bc he went to jail for r@pe. Not a lot of ppl likely to fw him in those industries. Might've just fell off and got to get old

You could argue that I am or was at least at some point OBSESSED with hip hop. As I get older I lose interest in what it has become but I am an older fan that largely is interested in certain people I grew up on. I was hesitant to make another thread about what ifs because even on hip hop message boards it's hard to find people who share the same interests as I.

I always hear about this never ending beef between Rick Ross and Frewway Ricky Ross.
I wonder if William Roberts simply just would have just gave him some money would he have gotten endorsed or at least accepted bu Freeway in the same way that Philly rapper Freeway was?

Ice Cube consistently claims that he was owed money that he wasn't paid for his work on straight outta Compton. Was he really owed. I heard not only the real late Jerry Heller point out he was never sued but this was even put in the Straight outta Compton theatrical film. Could Eazy have paid Cube to stay? How about Dr Dre? I wonder how preventable the NWA breakup was and how plausible a reunion truly was. Was Eazy's wife lying about Suge beating Eazy up? Eazy on the set of Chris Rock's cb4 film talked about doing NWA without Dre. Did priority records put the battery in Cube's back to leave?

Royce supposedly chose Tommy Boy records over Aftermath. Would they have been any more likely to have put out Rock City? What exactly made the Royce fallout happen with Em/F12 etc? The Kino comments on Dre followed by Royce's refusal to drop him? Royce working on his album and being too busy to be Em's hype man? Was the "fu#k anger management" bar the last straw or a coincidence? Why did he record his diss over "sh1t on you" years before D12 dissed him to begin with? Ever notice to this day you never see Dre working on Bad Meets Evil, Slaughterhouse, or Royce stuff? Where would Royce's career be had he been label mates with Em? How much better would a BME project done in the original Renegade/scary movie era? Would the 2 D12 albums we had still have came out?

Shan said he didn't respond to KRS because Marley Marl stopped him. Does it make a difference if he did? Kane talks about Shan never liking him and constantly calling him the "new n1gga". BDK also says that he was ASKED TO go at KRS but chose not to. Was it solely because he and KRS were actual friends? Would Kane have wrecked him? Kane certainly asked for a thank you for not getting involved while on stage for the verzuz.

Speaking of Kane, Rakim said that lines where taken out of "let the rhythm hit em" that dissed Kane. I heard that they BOTH had disses toward one another. I heard there was even a ppv planned where they were supposed to battle one another. That the same proposed event was also supposed to have a Kool Moe Dee battle as well. Would an on wax battle between Kane and Ra been the Jay/Nas of it's own era? Would a ppv with established major artists set a precedent that would have been followed by others?

Nas was supposed to be on Reasonable Doubt. Would him actually appearing have done ANYTHING to make the album sound any better or help sell it? Would it have made the beef less likely to occur?

Eminem supposedly showed up to the I honor you video shoot to ask Canibus to collaborate. Bis supposedly denied it. Had Bis said yes would it have helped his career in any way...or at least prevent their beef? Were Em's lines in "role model" and "get you mad" in part a reaction to the rejection? If Em would have jumped on "phuck u" from 2000 b.c. like Em claimed Canibus asked him too does it make any difference?

If Jay would have simply said yes to Cam'Ron's suggestion to be on his album years earlier would that have cut the tension between the 2 years later? How different would things be if Cam hadn't erased Jay's* verse off the Oh boy remix?

On drink champs Cam told Nore there was talk and consideration of Peedi Crack joining Dipset. Would they have treated him any better than State Property/Rocafella?

Feel free to answer, add on, completley ignore or diss me.

Think so?

I feel pac had a very intelligent mind at a young age. Like he would have ventured out and gravitated towards likeminds. I don’t think he was ever around activists like himself, just gangsters


You don’t think he woulda still been about the black youth and protecting the community from the cops? If people could still look at Tyson as a God, even tho the r@pe accusations and domestic violence, cocaine using etc someone like pac woulda gotten a second chance.


His soul and spirit was something different. 1 of 1

What if Eminem went at Jay Z or Nas?


I feel we got cheated out of Em going at another heavyweight

Here's the thing about this 1.

1. Em never had any reason to go at either of them. There has always been a great shared mutual respect.

2. I feel that Canibus could have been that battle but BOTH backed down at different times.

What if crack never hit the ghettos in the 70s and 80s, would hip hop still have been created?

Should there be a new type of music in 2030 that rivals hip hop created by black people

What if Eminem went at Jay Z or Nas?


I feel we got cheated out of Em going at another heavyweight

Stan wars would've gotten ugly and likely racial. Em would've lost a lot of black support taking the bait and speaking on Eminem murdered you on your own sh1t. That might have helter skeltered the game up

Def would have been racial

Plus depending on the time 50 for sure would’ve jumped in… it would have been interesting Eminem is what made rap main stream

Who would’ve had the better beats? Nas could’ve taken it but it would’ve gotten nasty