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Kendrick Lamar Section 80 : Was it a Mixtape or an Album?

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Was Section 80 marketed as a Mixtape when it originally launched?
Yes 31 59.62%
No 21 40.38%
Voters: 52.   (BX member poll)

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Jae_Mike triple plat x1
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Aiiiight so boom. Im from the old Bx with the Jukebox and all. During those times I remember that the Kdot dropped Section 80. It was being pushed as a Mixtape and digital download.
After TDE saw the buzz they made it a physical release. My homie saying im buggin and he doesn't remember that. Am I trippin? @R-Geezy


Was Section 80 a mixtape first then recategorized to an album or always an album.


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Section.80 is Kendrick Lamar’s first full-length project, released on July 2, 2011, via Top Dawg Entertainment; although the project was marketed and distributed like a studio album, Lamar has consistently referred to it as a mixtape. Genius has compiled in-depth breakdowns of both the track list/production credits and cover art. ---Via Genuis


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MILLY triple plat x9
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Street album
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Jae_Mike triple plat x1 OP
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 MILLY said
Street album
Do you consider a Street Album as a Mixtape?
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88keys
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I dont remember them switching it to a physical release, I always thought it was a mixtape
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Top 10 most propped recently BreakkerSzn triple plat x140
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Mixtape

Damn>>>GKMC TPAB MMATBS
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Independent album
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Jae_Mike triple plat x1 OP
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 BreakkerSzn said
Mixtape

Damn>>>GKMC TPAB MMATBS
Im dissappointed bruh, no Cardi Pic?
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R-Geezy
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Independent album released on TDE before he signed his major deal. It’s an album.
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Ninovelli triple plat x7
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Around this time high quality album tier mixtapes were a thing. I look at it as a mixtape even tho it might not be the proper term. His true debut album was GKMC.
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No Religion triple plat x14
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Was widely considered a mixtape, was not marketed as an album when it was released despite being all original music. is right using the term street album which is basically an unofficial album without a SKU
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Abz
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I specifically remember this being released on Datpiff when it came out and it was around the time when mixtapes was the thing. If it wasn’t a mixtape then where did it first appear?

This is the era right after the sample ban where they raided DJ Drama studio for bootlegging CDs which was really about the major white labels greed.

IMO Section.80 is one of the byproducts of the game where you had to release original beats and still market as mixtape in order to be commercially successful.
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80 is the debut studio album by American rapper Kendrick Lamar. It was released on July 2, 2011, by Top Dawg Entertainment (TDE).

Section.80 was released on July 2, 2011. In its first week, the album sold 5,000 copies in the United States and debuted at number 113 on the US Billboard 200, with minimal mainstream media promotion and coverage. Within a two-week period, the album sold a total of 9,000 copies in the United States, and as of February 2014, the album has sold 130,000 copies domestically. On April 14, 2017, the album was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), for combined sales and album-equivalent units of over 500,000 units.
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It's incredible to me that people want to postulate on things that are FACTS they can just lookup.
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Jae_Mike triple plat x1 OP
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 Witness102 said

80 is the debut studio album by American rapper Kendrick Lamar. It was released on July 2, 2011, by Top Dawg Entertainment (TDE).

Section.80 was released on July 2, 2011. In its first week, the album sold 5,000 copies in the United States and debuted at number 113 on the US Billboard 200, with minimal mainstream media promotion and coverage. Within a two-week period, the album sold a total of 9,000 copies in the United States, and as of February 2014, the album has sold 130,000 copies domestically. On April 14, 2017, the album was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), for combined sales and album-equivalent units of over 500,000 units.
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It's incredible to me that people want to postulate on things that are FACTS they can just lookup.
Wikipedia can be wrong bruh, I downloaded Section 80 off datpiff for free. I was just getting others to share their memory. You cant download a full fledged album for free on datpiff that only deals in mixtapes. The date that Datpiff speaks of is the physical release
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 Witness102 said

80 is the debut studio album by American rapper Kendrick Lamar. It was released on July 2, 2011, by Top Dawg Entertainment (TDE).

Section.80 was released on July 2, 2011. In its first week, the album sold 5,000 copies in the United States and debuted at number 113 on the US Billboard 200, with minimal mainstream media promotion and coverage. Within a two-week period, the album sold a total of 9,000 copies in the United States, and as of February 2014, the album has sold 130,000 copies domestically. On April 14, 2017, the album was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), for combined sales and album-equivalent units of over 500,000 units.
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It's incredible to me that people want to postulate on things that are FACTS they can just lookup.
Wikipedia is not a source. Anyone can literally type anything on there and celebrities have called out how inaccurate it is. Not saying you're right or wrong but using Wikipedia as a source is not helping you at all.
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Murderers triple plat x52
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 88keys said
I dont remember them switching it to a physical release, I always thought it was a mixtape
It was a mixtape but for some reason a lot of fans are going back and labeling mixtapes as albums because they're on streaming platforms.
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 Jae_Mike said
Wikipedia can be wrong bruh, I downloaded Section 80 off datpiff for free. I was just getting others to share their memory. You cant download a full fledged album for free on datpiff that only deals in mixtapes. The date that Datpiff speaks of is the physical release
You're 205% wrong. It was NOT released as a Mixtape - and was 305% NOT on DatPiff.
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 Murderers said
Wikipedia is not a source. Anyone can literally type anything on there and celebrities have called out how inaccurate it is. Not saying you're right or wrong but using Wikipedia as a source is not helping you at all.
Yah - thanks for telling me something everyone always knows.

People who are wrong always say that about it.

There's 100 other sources that will tell you the same thing.

NO ONE can point to a single source - because it's not true - that Section 80 was a Mixtape.
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 Murderers said
It was a mixtape but for some reason a lot of fans are going back and labeling mixtapes as albums because they're on streaming platforms.

No - it wasn't.

You're telling me Kendrick was lying here ?


The best things in life aren't always free, and while New West Coast representative Kendrick Lamar started his career offering up free Internet-only mixtapes, the Compton, California, rapper is setting a new standard with his latest album, Section.80.

"It was something that I had to understand, that my company had to make me understand. I'm putting out this free music, constantly putting it out," Lamar told MTV News of his old way of thinking. "My whole thing is bringing music back to where people actually buy it, but at the same time, you know what? I don't think I'm ready yet to start selling my project because I feel the world don't know me yet."

Since changing his name from K.Dot, he released The Kendrick Lamar EP at the end of 2009 and Overly Dedicated in 2010. Both projects were available for free throughout the hip-hop blogosphere, but Section.80 does not follow that same model. The change in Lamar's feelings on free music is largely due to the urging of the heads of his record label, Top Dawg Entertainment. "Top Dawg is always telling me, 'They'll never know you [and you'll never] get a chance to bring music back to its original roots because you aren't demanding to go out and buy it,' " Lamar said of the advice he was given. "That made sense to me."

Section.80 is a densely packed affair, where the rapper displays his lyrical dexterity and storytelling ability. There are no songs that fit the traditional radio format; instead Lamar focuses on the ills of the crack epidemic (Ronald Reagan Era", the hardships young women face ("Keisha's Song") and religion ("Kush & Corinthians").

Barring any support from radio and major marketing companies, the success of Section.80 will depend on his ever-growing fanbase. "People out here, they really gotta go out and support that last music that's alive as far as hip-hop, because we're a dying breed now," he said. "Truthfully, it's up to the world."
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An album with a mixtape release strategy.
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An independent album like Eminem’s Infinite.
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NAKHI ALLAH
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I remember it being a street album(high quality mixtape)
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shellz386 triple plat x3
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Independent album

GKMC was his major debut
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 Witness102 said
Yah - thanks for telling me something everyone always knows.

People who are wrong always say that about it.

There's 100 other sources that will tell you the same thing.

NO ONE can point to a single source - because it's not true - that Section 80 was a Mixtape.
I wasn't trying to argue you brother I was just telling you that wikipedia isn't a source.
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MILLY triple plat x9
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 Jae_Mike said
Do you consider a Street Album as a Mixtape?
A street album is a street album
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Jae_Mike triple plat x1 OP
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 MILLY said
A street album is a street album
If that's the case it's just an album. To me a street album is a mixtape with all original music
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