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D-Clutch triple plat x1
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 J.BEEZY said
Getting closer to draft time.
Who would you guys take at 3, assuming CMC and Bijan are gone?
I'm between Breece and Tyreek
Hall > Bijan

Would also take Hall over Hill. The drop off in later rounds at RB is steeper than the drop off at WR imo. If you can pair Hall with 2 or 3 solid WRs that you can get later in the draft, you’re set. Take some fliers on some RBs late to pair with Hall. Plenty of good WRs to pick up in the early rounds. Personally, if I draft high I’m going CMC, Hall or Bijan. If I draft a little later and only if those 3 are off the board, I’m going WR.

For what it’s worth, Breece might be my overall #1 this year. Yes, over CMC lol. I’m extremely high on him. Look at what he did with some absolute bums at QB, teams fully focused on the run because they know they couldn’t pass for sh1t, and a terrible o-line. He still produced at a high level and looked absolutely explosive while doing it. He was literally the best receiving RB in the league last year. Now Rodgers is back and even though he’s old, he’s miles ahead of what they had at QB. The o-line is revamped and will probably be very good. If he stays healthy and Rodgers stays healthy dude might have a monster season.
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lilsnatch770
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Long post sorry in advance. I bolded the important parts.

Need some help since my league is drafting super early this year (Wednesday).

My league is heavy on running backs. We get 0.25 points per carry and 0.5 points per reception. Because of this, taking a wide receiver seems pointless.

We are also a 14-team league.

The top 5 scorers from last year in our league were CMC, Lamb, Tyreek, Breece Hall & Etienne. In 2022, the top 5 scorers were Josh Jacobs, Henry, CMC, Ekeler, and Chubb. The highest scoring WR was Justin Jefferson at 7th overall among WR/RB/TEs.

I have pick 6 this year. I am not sure I want to pick Justin Jefferson as he would need to probably have 1600+ yards and 12+ touchdowns to pass even a decent running back because of the points per carry.

If Bijan and Breece Hall are gone, I am thinking about picking Jonathan Taylor at 6 over Justin Jefferson or Ja'Marr Chase because they would need to have a pretty great season to be a top 5 player in the WR/RB area.

Is it crazy to pick Jonathan Taylor at 6? His only competition for carries is Anthony Richardson. His biggest downside is he missed games in back to back years.

Also, is it crazy to not expect a good season out of Jefferson because Sam Darnold is his QB? Like I said, he would have to have about 1600 yards and 12+ TDs to beat out a running back with 1400 yards and 12+ TDs because of the carries.


I don't really love the running backs at the end of the second round.

Also, would it be crazy to think Derrick Henry could have 1400 yards and 12+ touchdowns in Baltimore this year? That's generally top 5 in my league as long as you have 230+ carries.


If Bijan or Breece Hall are gone, I am not sure who the fu#k to pick at 6
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D-Clutch triple plat x1
Props 13 K       '05 
 lilsnatch770 said
Long post sorry in advance. I bolded the important parts.

Need some help since my league is drafting super early this year (Wednesday).

My league is heavy on running backs. We get 0.25 points per carry and 0.5 points per reception. Because of this, taking a wide receiver seems pointless.

We are also a 14-team league.

The top 5 scorers from last year in our league were CMC, Lamb, Tyreek, Breece Hall & Etienne. In 2022, the top 5 scorers were Josh Jacobs, Henry, CMC, Ekeler, and Chubb. The highest scoring WR was Justin Jefferson at 7th overall among WR/RB/TEs.

I have pick 6 this year. I am not sure I want to pick Justin Jefferson as he would need to probably have 1600+ yards and 12+ touchdowns to pass even a decent running back because of the points per carry.

If Bijan and Breece Hall are gone, I am thinking about picking Jonathan Taylor at 6 over Justin Jefferson or Ja'Marr Chase because they would need to have a pretty great season to be a top 5 player in the WR/RB area.

Is it crazy to pick Jonathan Taylor at 6? His only competition for carries is Anthony Richardson. His biggest downside is he missed games in back to back years.

Also, is it crazy to not expect a good season out of Jefferson because Sam Darnold is his QB? Like I said, he would have to have about 1600 yards and 12+ TDs to beat out a running back with 1400 yards and 12+ TDs because of the carries.


I don't really love the running backs at the end of the second round.

Also, would it be crazy to think Derrick Henry could have 1400 yards and 12+ touchdowns in Baltimore this year? That's generally top 5 in my league as long as you have 230+ carries.


If Bijan or Breece Hall are gone, I am not sure who the fu#k to pick at 6
With that type of scoring I would pick an RB at 6. Taylor is a good choice if Bijan is gone, seems very safe (assuming CMC and Hall will be gone because obviously they should be). I also think Saquon is a safe pick with potential to blow up. I had him last year in that god awful Giants offense so I watched him play a lot and he’s still a good RB. Now he’s in a completely different situation in a great offense. There’s talk about Hurts vulturing TDs (obviously the tush push won’t completely disappear), but the combination of Swift/Gainwell had 58 carries inside the redzone last year. CMC led the league with 63. If Barkley takes the majority, if not all of those 58, he will find himself in the end zone a lot with his talent. Also seen an Eagles beat writer say they don’t want to push Hurts in the end zone 12 times this season and Saquon was brought in to finish those runs. Not to say all beat writers know everything, but still.

I think it’s a matter of preference.. Taylor might be a slightly safer pick because we’ve already seen him in this offense and know what he brings to the table. But I like Saquon too as an upside pick. I got Henry and Kyren ranked a tier lower, along with Gibbs, who I was high on but that hamstring injury is concerning.
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Gramz triple plat x66
Props 103 K       '12 
Did a few mocks and I noticed towards the later rounds (12-Team, PPR) that I am running out of options to choose much earlier than previous years.

Who is everybody targeting late?


Last edited by Gramz; 08-20-2024 at 09:56 AM..
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lilsnatch770
Props 6 K       '04 
 D-Clutch said
With that type of scoring I would pick an RB at 6. Taylor is a good choice if Bijan is gone, seems very safe (assuming CMC and Hall will be gone because obviously they should be). I also think Saquon is a safe pick with potential to blow up. I had him last year in that god awful Giants offense so I watched him play a lot and he’s still a good RB. Now he’s in a completely different situation in a great offense. There’s talk about Hurts vulturing TDs (obviously the tush push won’t completely disappear), but the combination of Swift/Gainwell had 58 carries inside the redzone last year. CMC led the league with 63. If Barkley takes the majority, if not all of those 58, he will find himself in the end zone a lot with his talent. Also seen an Eagles beat writer say they don’t want to push Hurts in the end zone 12 times this season and Saquon was brought in to finish those runs. Not to say all beat writers know everything, but still.

I think it’s a matter of preference.. Taylor might be a slightly safer pick because we’ve already seen him in this offense and know what he brings to the table. But I like Saquon too as an upside pick. I got Henry and Kyren ranked a tier lower, along with Gibbs, who I was high on but that hamstring injury is concerning.
I don't hate Saquon either. I will say he most likely gets more receptions than Taylor. I don't think PFF is the greatest at rating but Philadelphia and Indianapolis are #2 & #3 in offensive line rankings.

The biggest downside to me with Taylor (minus the potential to get injured), is I think Anthony Richardson is likely to run more in the red zone compared to Hurts.

Other than his age, I don't hate Henry because of Baltimore likes to run inside the 5. Gus Edwards tied Mostert for the most carries inside the 5 last year and had 39 carries inside the 20 last year as well.

Henry is better inside the 5 than Gus Edwards. I assume he has 15+ touchdowns this year if he plays every game which is a big if.
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Switchc2390
Props 20 K       '05 
Look, there's a lot of bitter Giants fans out there who just want Saquon to fail based upon him ending up on the Eagles, but I will say not all of us are hating just to hate. I actually don't have any hate for Saquon, but I don't think he's going to be as dominant on the Eagles as everyone else thinks. He still has a little burst but he's on the decline.

The perception always was Saquon was all the Giants had on offense, and at times that has been true. But in 2022, Saquon was the reason the Giants won games towards the beginning of the season. The last half? It was pretty much all Danny Dimes, Saquon was not effective. His yards after contact have gone down every year recently.

I'm not saying he won't be good at all, but I'm off of him in the first round personally.
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Mahaat
Props 2 K       '09 
So far it’s looking like I’ll only be in two 12 team ppr leagues this year. Picking 6th in one league and 7th in the other


Last edited by Mahaat; 08-20-2024 at 09:10 PM..
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Mahaat
Props 2 K       '09 
 Gramz said
Did a few mocks and I noticed towards the later rounds (12-Team, PPR) that I am running out of options to choose much earlier than previous years.

Who is everybody targeting late?
Chuba Hubbard
Rico Dowdle
Chase Brown
A-Rod
Josh Downs
Pat Freiermuth

Etc

That’s who’s consistently there around round 11
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jumpman2304 triple plat x1
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glad to be back
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!!! triple plat x24
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Got my first draft of the year on Sunday.
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Mahaat
Props 2 K       '09 
Here’s what my draft board looks like. Grabbing dawgs at WR early benefitted me last year. Not sure if I’ll ever draft a RB within the first three rounds ever again



Last edited by Mahaat; 08-20-2024 at 09:32 PM..
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Mahaat
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My draft spots are 6th and 7th in two leagues and I’m trying to scoop Garrett Wilson in the middle of the 2nd round but he ain’t fall to me yet in any scenario
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lboog1423 triple plat x1
Props 63 K       '10 
12 man standard league draft








gotta drop someone for a kicker. Leaning btwn samuel or doubs.

Samuel has turf toe and Doubs could just be odd man out. Packers have a lot of weapons. Wicks is already on waivers as well, he was my actual target going into draft.
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lilsnatch770
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Anyone else higher on James Conner than some of these mocks? He's 63rd on Yahoo and was the top RB last year the last 6 weeks of the season.

I know he's going to miss 3 to 4 games but if I can pair him with Trey Benson, I love that as my RB2
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ClustyMolecules
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 lilsnatch770 said
Anyone else higher on James Conner than some of these mocks? He's 63rd on Yahoo and was the top RB last year the last 6 weeks of the season.

I know he's going to miss 3 to 4 games but if I can pair him with Trey Benson, I love that as my RB2
I ended up with him last year. Was really mad about it until the season started lol he put in that work. Definitely guaranteed to miss some time but he’s gonna produce when he’s in. And he doesn’t have any real competition.
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MANNYSOSA triple plat x3
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 Switchc2390 said
Look, there's a lot of bitter Giants fans out there who just want Saquon to fail based upon him ending up on the Eagles, but I will say not all of us are hating just to hate. I actually don't have any hate for Saquon, but I don't think he's going to be as dominant on the Eagles as everyone else thinks. He still has a little burst but he's on the decline.

The perception always was Saquon was all the Giants had on offense, and at times that has been true. But in 2022, Saquon was the reason the Giants won games towards the beginning of the season. The last half? It was pretty much all Danny Dimes, Saquon was not effective. His yards after contact have gone down every year recently.

I'm not saying he won't be good at all, but I'm off of him in the first round personally.
The difference between saquon in the 1st or the 2nd round for me is his involvement in the pass game. Jalen doesn’t target his running backs that much so if kellen moore has him look for saquon in the pass game than it’s a no brainer if you can get him later in the 1st if AJ is gonna also

 Mahaat said
Here’s what my draft board looks like. Grabbing dawgs at WR early benefitted me last year. Not sure if I’ll ever draft a RB within the first three rounds ever again


Need an update

 lboog1423 said
12 man standard league draft








gotta drop someone for a kicker. Leaning btwn samuel or doubs.

Samuel has turf toe and Doubs could just be odd man out. Packers have a lot of weapons. Wicks is already on waivers as well, he was my actual target going into draft.
Bills/ Josh Allen have a serious chance to put up major fantasy points cause of the amount of talent they let go last season. You’ve already got Kincaid and Cookbuy counterpoint is they also don’t have a no1 reciever anymore so it’s up for grabs. Trevor Lawrence hasn’t thrown for more than 275 yards in a game. I like doubbs and the packers. All it takes for one of them to miss time then all the others get a production boost.

 lilsnatch770 said
Anyone else higher on James Conner than some of these mocks? He's 63rd on Yahoo and was the top RB last year the last 6 weeks of the season.

I know he's going to miss 3 to 4 games but if I can pair him with Trey Benson, I love that as my RB2
If you can get him at 63 take him and run. May not put up ridiculous numbers but he’s consistent.



I don’t even have my draft order yet smh.
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Mahaat
Props 2 K       '09 
These mock drafts don’t seem realistic like in years past specifically when it comes to QB rankings. ESPN has Mahomes and LJ consistently going in the 4th round of my 12 team ppr mocks.
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rzarectah triple plat x2
Props 7 K       '05 
What's everyone's first round ppr rankings?




Got 2 drafts next week and I know I'm 4th in one. Personally ranking them as such

1. CMC
2. Ceedee
3. Tyreek
4. Amon St Brown
5. Breece Hall
6. Ja'marr Chase
7. Justin Jefferson
8. Bijan Robinson
9. AJ Brown
10. Gibbs

I think I'll be happy if any of the top 3 fall to me at 4th but have been going back and forth between St Brown and Breece. Always wanted St. Brown, but Breece hype has been creeping up on me lately. I'm out on Chase for no other reason than I'd just rather have St Brown.

Feels like a drop off after 7 where u can make more of an argument on those ranked 8-11. Curious how everyone else feels on the top 10
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Mahaat
Props 2 K       '09 
 rzarectah said
What's everyone's first round ppr rankings?




Got 2 drafts next week and I know I'm 4th in one. Personally ranking them as such

1. CMC
2. Ceedee
3. Tyreek
4. Amon St Brown
5. Breece Hall
6. Ja'marr Chase
7. Justin Jefferson
8. Bijan Robinson
9. AJ Brown
10. Gibbs

I think I'll be happy if any of the top 3 fall to me at 4th but have been going back and forth between St Brown and Breece. Always wanted St. Brown, but Breece hype has been creeping up on me lately. I'm out on Chase for no other reason than I'd just rather have St Brown.

Feels like a drop off after 7 where u can make more of an argument on those ranked 8-11. Curious how everyone else feels on the top 10
I personally have St Brown as my #1 overall player this year. CMC cool but I typically don’t draft RBs if they’re 28 or older, no real reason honestly just superstition
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rzarectah triple plat x2
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 Mahaat said
I personally have St Brown as my #1 overall player this year. CMC cool but I typically don’t draft RBs if they’re 28 or older, no real reason honestly just superstition
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Nothing wrong with that.

CMC's burned me multiple times before when he was with the panthers, but if he would somehow fall to me at 4, I would be ready to be hurt again.

Hard to pass up on that upside. Don't forget he had a 17 game td streak at one point well into last season.
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Mahaat
Props 2 K       '09 
Joshua Palmer is a WR I am keeping my eye on in the late rounds of the draft. Only thing is my leagues cap roster for WRs is 6 and I may be capped by the time I get there


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rzarectah triple plat x2
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 Mahaat said
Joshua Palmer is a WR I am keeping my eye on in the late rounds of the draft. Only thing is my leagues cap roster for WRs is 6 and I may be capped by the time I get there
I got my eye on Palmer, khalil Shakir, romeo Doubs,and maybe jakobi meyers as possible late round sleepers around that wr range
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D-Clutch triple plat x1
Props 13 K       '05 
 rzarectah said
What's everyone's first round ppr rankings?




Got 2 drafts next week and I know I'm 4th in one. Personally ranking them as such

1. CMC
2. Ceedee
3. Tyreek
4. Amon St Brown
5. Breece Hall
6. Ja'marr Chase
7. Justin Jefferson
8. Bijan Robinson
9. AJ Brown
10. Gibbs

I think I'll be happy if any of the top 3 fall to me at 4th but have been going back and forth between St Brown and Breece. Always wanted St. Brown, but Breece hype has been creeping up on me lately. I'm out on Chase for no other reason than I'd just rather have St Brown.

Feels like a drop off after 7 where u can make more of an argument on those ranked 8-11. Curious how everyone else feels on the top 10
1. Hall
2. CMC
3. Lamb
4. Tyreek
5. Amon-Ra
6. Chase
7. Bijan
8. Taylor
9. Brown
10. Wilson
11. Barkley
12. Jefferson

This is just off top but I would have the first round ranked as something along these lines. I’m a Hall stan as I explained in the first post on this page lol. Also lower on Jefferson because Darnold is trash. I have Gibbs out of the first round because of his injury.. hammy injury has me concerned.

Amon-Ra is the most consistent player in fantasy football and you can’t go wrong with him. I have him at 5 because I got the 4 players above him with a little more upside. But Amon-Ra has 9 targets or a TD in 35 of his last 38 games. Very reliable.
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Mahaat
Props 2 K       '09 
12 team ppr expert mock draft on ESPN where the vast majority of teams stayed until the end. Best mock draft I’ve been able to complete in a very long time. First QB off the board was Jalen Hurts towards the end of the 3rd Round
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Mahaat
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I really want Garrett Wilson but idk if I can pass up on Jefferson, St. Brown or Chase for him but damn I am tempted man he should have a monster year with ARod
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