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D-Clutch triple plat x1
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  '05 
 Se7en Six 76 said
Nah you waited this long to see what Kamara can do. One rule to fantasy is stay with decent to high powered offenses. Breece wont be able to do it all himself based on the current situation. Kamara can end up a value high end RB2 low end RB1, I say hold
 Captain Fresh said
I dont think I would. Jets offense might be a lil better with Siemian starting soon but that o line is horrible, idk if Breece will be consistent enough to feel comfortable starting beyond
desperation this season.

A lil nervous short term for AK though, jameis doesn't check down and Jamaal hurt and Kendre working his way back so they'll prolly use AK as a traditional back again which he isn't so imma pay attention to how he is used Sunday.
 rzarectah said
I would pass...unless they throw in another decent piece

Dammit lol everyone here and on other fantasy forums is advising me not to do it. I love Hall man so I may be a little blind to the situation. Cook is a bum. Hall was great even with Wilson last year for a 4-game stretch before he got injured. They faced 3 top 5 defenses so far. Cant get worse than it is imo. But then again it’s the Jets so maybe it can lol. I just love the talent.
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Se7en Six 76
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  '05 
What should I ask for in regards to Lamar , Kelce, or LaPorta
Trying to actually get off this trade Rhamondre for Mike Evans, might have to add a piece (maybe LaPorta)
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Veno da Don triple plat x7
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  '04 
 D-Clutch said
Most likely need to drop one of the bolded below. Would like to keep them all 3 but Saquon is on my IR so I can't make any moves unless I get him back on the roster.

RBs: Saquon, Walker, Kamara, Mostert, Spears, Roschon, Gainwell

Who would you drop? Case to make for all 3 of them.. Spears is very talented and Henry has looked kinda old, is nursing a toe injury and if they keep losing they might give the rookie more playing time. He outsnapped Henry past Sunday. Gainwell is on a good offense and has a role, although that role has taken a blow with Swift playing well. Roschon might take over as the lead back, the Bears are bad but a lead back is a lead back. Started the game Sunday and outproduced Herbert.
who would you drop?

Plan B is to drop no one and keep Saquon on my IR.. thing is, if he suits up this weekend I want to play him so I would need to drop someone anyway. And also I want to make a move at TE because Njoku sucks.
I'm dumping Gainwell. Not sure he has any upside at this point, he may get you 6-10 but I just don't see a breakout situation for him. I'm high on all the Rookie backs at this point. I'm rostering as many as I can just in case they breakout later in the season.
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Veno da Don triple plat x7
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  '04 
 Se7en Six 76 said
What should I ask for in regards to Lamar , Kelce, or LaPorta
Trying to actually get off this trade Rhamondre for Mike Evans, might have to add a piece (maybe LaPorta)
Maybe you could get Evans for one of them straight up. I would send a 1 for 1 first. I would also hold both the TEs somebody will get desperate and send you a nice deal for one in a few weeks or you may be able to pick your price. It's a chance you have the top two TEs for this season that's hella value.
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Veno da Don triple plat x7
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  '04 
 Prodigital SC said
Na, I haven’t started him since week 1 (which was my only loss so far)

I’m going to have to drop a player for a kicker at some point this week so I’m thinking it’s better to get $70 than to drop him for nothing
Take the FAAB
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Se7en Six 76
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  '05 
 Veno da Don said
Maybe you could get Evans for one of them straight up. I would send a 1 for 1 first. I would also hold both the TEs somebody will get desperate and send you a nice deal for one in a few weeks or you may be able to pick your price. It's a chance you have the top two TEs for this season that's hella value.
rest of the team is in shambles though
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when your RB1 is Zach Moss/Jayhmr Gibbs and your WR1 is Puka (i mean in actuality Kelce is my WR1 but still) and youre 0-3.

Trying to upgrade the team. If I can get this Stevenson for Evans trade through I can get a little more fancy with what I do with Lamar and LaPorta wait another week or two. If i do away w/ Lamar (not that I want to but hes valuable trade chip) Im aiming to grab Stroud off waivers
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Mahaat
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Someone dropped Godwin in one of my league. I was able to scoop Quentin Johnston after waivers but I think grabbing Godwin wouldn’t be too bad
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rzarectah triple plat x2
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  '05 
 Prodigital SC said
Na, I haven’t started him since week 1 (which was my only loss so far)

I’m going to have to drop a player for a kicker at some point this week so I’m thinking it’s better to get $70 than to drop him for nothing
Yep basically. Get something out of him
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J triple plat x3
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  '05 
Someone offered me Calvin Ridley for D'andre Swift. I have Swift. I'm tempted but what do y'all think?

Is Gainwell gonna continue to take carries from Swift and do y'all think Ridley bounces back?

PPR league btw.
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!!! triple plat x24
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  '04 


What lineup changes should I make?

Thinking of benching Godwin for Cook. I think I should wait a week to see how Kamara looks before starting him.

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ClustyMolecules
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 !!! said


What lineup changes should I make?

Thinking of benching Godwin for Cook. I think I should wait a week to see how Kamara looks before starting him.

I’d probably start kamara but if you are stuck on waiting a week, which i don’t blame you, I’m starting Cook.
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Captain Fresh triple plat x16
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  '07 
 !!! said


What lineup changes should I make?

Thinking of benching Godwin for Cook. I think I should wait a week to see how Kamara looks before starting him.

I'd start Cook over Godwin.

Some thoughts I said in a previous post about AK

A lil nervous short term for AK though, jameis doesn't check down and Jamaal hurt and Kendre working his way back so they'll prolly use AK as a traditional back again which he isn't so imma pay attention to how he is used Sunday.
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!!! triple plat x24
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  '04 
 ClustyMolecules said
I’d probably start kamara but if you are stuck on waiting a week, which i don’t blame you, I’m starting Cook.
 Captain Fresh said
I'd start Cook over Godwin.

Some thoughts I said in a previous post about AK

A lil nervous short term for AK though, jameis doesn't check down and Jamaal hurt and Kendre working his way back so they'll prolly use AK as a traditional back again which he isn't so imma pay attention to how he is used Sunday.
Appreciate it thanks.
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Captain Fresh triple plat x16
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  '07 
I liked this thread about the discussion of Palmer v QJ

[see tweet]

To summarize if you like Palmer it's the safe modest gain route

If you believe in QJ you are chasing the ceiling of a league winning player which is really the name of the game.
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ClustyMolecules
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  '10 
 J said
Someone offered me Calvin Ridley for D'andre Swift. I have Swift. I'm tempted but what do y'all think?

Is Gainwell gonna continue to take carries from Swift and do y'all think Ridley bounces back?

PPR league btw.
I think it would help to know the makeup of the rest of your team. Off the top I’d say no given how shallow the rb pool is and considering he’s the 10th ranked rb in .5 ppr leagues.
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smoothSeph
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  '10 
 Captain Fresh said
I liked this thread about the discussion of Palmer v QJ

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To summarize if you like Palmer it's the safe modest gain route

If you believe in QJ you are chasing the ceiling of a league winning player which is really the name of the game.
I don't think its that simple. Palmer is only in his 3rd season, he could still take another step forward. People acting like he's some 8 year vet that already peaked.

I think that comfort level with Herbert will give him an advantage too, and those extra receptions will make up for occasional QJ splash plays in PPR format.
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Top 10 most propped recently DIE IN HOU X
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  '22 
You either think Achane is a potential star or you think Achane was a fluke.


Backed up the binks truck so I’ll figure that out with him on a my squad.

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Captain Fresh triple plat x16
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  '07 
 smoothSeph said
I don't think its that simple. Palmer is only in his 3rd season, he could still take another step forward. People acting like he's some 8 year vet that already peaked.

I think that comfort level with Herbert will give him an advantage too, and those extra receptions will make up for occasional QJ splash plays in PPR format.
Rarely does a wr break out and become an elite player if they haven't already in they first 2 seasons. They drafted QJ to replace Mike Will as the x next season with a high 1st rd draft capital, they will give him every opportunity for that investment to be worth it.

Palmer should do fine since he in a pass happy offense with an elite qb who he should have more of a rapport with at this point but QJ should eventually eat into Palmer snaps by the end of the season. So basically if you need Palmer production now he prolly is the guy to target short term but QJ should be the more valuable player down the stretch. Just my imo.
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Prodigital SC triple plat x41
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  '17 
 !!! said


What lineup changes should I make?

Thinking of benching Godwin for Cook. I think I should wait a week to see how Kamara looks before starting him.

Cook >>> Godwin for sure
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Captain Fresh triple plat x16
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  '07 
 DIE IN HOU X said
You either think Achane is a potential star or you think Achane was a fluke.


Backed up the binks truck so I’ll figure that out with him on a my squad.

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You got your guy ? Good sh1t
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How the bid went? Everybody jumped high?
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Top 10 most propped recently DIE IN HOU X
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  '22 
 Captain Fresh said
You got your guy ? Good sh1t
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How the bid went? Everybody jumped high?
The highest was like $65. So I might have overspent but i don’t really care as long as I made sure that I got him.

I just wish I could’ve had the full $100 so I could’ve fu#ked their heads up even more
and make Achane the first player to get the entire faab $ bag.
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smoothSeph
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  '10 
 Captain Fresh said
Rarely does a wr break out and become an elite player if they haven't already in they first 2 seasons. They drafted QJ to replace Mike Will as the x next season with a high 1st rd draft capital, they will give him every opportunity for that investment to be worth it.

Palmer should do fine since he in a pass happy offense with an elite qb who he should have more of a rapport with at this point but QJ should eventually eat into Palmer snaps by the end of the season. So basically if you need Palmer production now he prolly is the guy to target short term but QJ should be the more valuable player down the stretch. Just my imo.
He doesn't have to be elite though he just has to be better than QJ. No doubt I think QJ will be good for them long term, but if his route running ain't there yet he's not gonna be one of Herbert's reads.

Palmer already proved he can get 10 targets across from Allen without Williams there. Add in Ekeler when he's back, Johnson gonna be fighting with Everett for whatever's left.
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INGOBERNABLES triple plat x19
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  '17 
 Captain Fresh said
I liked this thread about the discussion of Palmer v QJ

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To summarize if you like Palmer it's the safe modest gain route

If you believe in QJ you are chasing the ceiling of a league winning player which is really the name of the game.
 smoothSeph said
I don't think its that simple. Palmer is only in his 3rd season, he could still take another step forward. People acting like he's some 8 year vet that already peaked.

I think that comfort level with Herbert will give him an advantage too, and those extra receptions will make up for occasional QJ splash plays in PPR format.
What's funny is it actually could be that simple, not to borrow your words.

I posted the Jauan Jennings/Aiyuk utilization stats and I assumed that since Aiyuk was down, Jennings was going to immediately take that target share because Ronnie Bell had ZERO percent targets first two weeks.

What happened week 3? Jennings ran less routes, less of a target share and Bell was the go to in the end zone despite dropping two of his targets.

It turns out Jennings role as a blocker and those two catches are part of the game script and that's the role they choose to keep him in.

Mike Dub ran 79% of routes so Palmer's 68% of routes and 15% of targets will increase but so will QJ's 26%/7%. As far as who gets the ball?

I don't like using historical data to prove anything, but Palmer only scored significant numbers when both Mike Dub AND Keenan Allen were out week 9 at home against KC. Otherwise it's flex start numbers at best. But that's last year's data.

I'd be happy with both.
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Captain Fresh triple plat x16
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  '07 
 smoothSeph said
He doesn't have to be elite though he just has to be better than QJ. No doubt I think QJ will be good for them long term, but if his route running ain't there yet he's not gonna be one of Herbert's reads.

Palmer already proved he can get 10 targets across from Allen without Williams there. Add in Ekeler when he's back, Johnson gonna be fighting with Everett for whatever's left.
Palmer getting more targeted than QJ after Mike went down should be expected in the short term, the rapport should be there between them. But yea there is a world where QJ is just cheeks given the drops and inconsistencies with is route running so that wouldn't be surprising either. However I still think is a better prospect than Palmer and given his 1st rd draft captial so theyll push him to get more involved over time in the season.

Looking forward to how it shakes out between them two.
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Captain Fresh triple plat x16
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 INGOBERNABLES said
What's funny is it actually could be that simple, not to borrow your words.

I posted the Jauan Jennings/Aiyuk utilization stats and I assumed that since Aiyuk was down, Jennings was going to immediately take that target share because Ronnie Bell had ZERO percent targets first two weeks.

What happened week 3? Jennings ran less routes, less of a target share and Bell was the go to in the end zone despite dropping two of his targets.

It turns out Jennings role as a blocker and those two catches are part of the game script and that's the role they choose to keep him in.

Mike Dub ran 79% of routes so Palmer's 68% of routes and 15% of targets will increase but so will QJ's 26%/7%. As far as who gets the ball?

I don't like using historical data to prove anything, but Palmer only scored significant numbers when both Mike Dub AND Keenan Allen were out week 9 at home against KC. Otherwise it's flex start numbers at best. But that's last year's data.

I'd be happy with both.
Agreed
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