Nov. 27| 🇺🇸 Teófimo López vs 🇦🇺 George Kambosos Jnr. |DAZN: 8 pm ET/5 pm PT - page 34

Why would I stop bring up the original Franchise Rules? It's clear they made a mistake and they're too prideful to admit it.

Also Peoples is about unification over mandatory. He and the IBF would have let Lopez fight Haney instead of Kambosos. However Teo Sr. and Teo Jr. wanted to move ahead with the Kambosos fight instead.

It's all good now. We'll have an undisputed Champ at lightweight soon if Haney wins Saturday. If he loses we may have to wait until the summer.

Like I said he doesnt stand a chance nor has he deserved it. Who the fu#k has this clown Charlo beaten

Address what I said or step off the porch.
I took all comers and they all had to accept the light.

If there were no WBC belts on the line then what WBC belts was Kambosos holding after the fight ???

Teo use to run around with two WBC belts.

Now Kambosos has two WBC belts, plus the WBC shirt they give to the new champs.

Rocky Fielding, JCC Jr, Avni Yildrum, Callum Smith, Liam Smith, Ilunga Makabu.... who have they beaten? You're a shameless, d1ck eating man fan.

Cause WBC is full of sh1t and gonna try to extort this dude lol

It doesn't matter what the WBC want to call him on twitter or what belts they give him, unless they strip Devin Haney of his belt then there is no Undisputed Lightweight Champion

The undisputed champ needs the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO world titles at the same time, the current WBC lightweight champion is Devin Haney

Lets use their twitter for another example, what do they say is happening this weekend? Oh the Lightweight World title is being defended, by who?



That doesn't look like Kambosos to me

Who did Devin beat to become the WBC Belt holder?
What was the name of the champ he defeated in combat by 12 rounds of boxing?

The same way lomachenko won his when he beat Luke Campbell for a vacant belt, he beat Zaur Abdullaev for a vacant belt… Lomachenko was then stripped and Haney became lightweight world champ, then he had 3 defenses of that title with another one coming this weekend.

It doesn’t matter what new belts WBC wants to create, if you don’t have the WBC Lightweight World champion belt you are not undisputed.

WRONG, WRONG

Loma was NOT stripped.
These are NOT semantics.

Loma was elevated and Haney being the Interim Champ was ELEVATED in response.

"In October 2019, Haney became the youngest (i.e. latest-born) world champion in boxing when he was elevated as the WBC lightweight champion after previous WBC lightweight champion Vasiliy Lomachenko was promoted to "Franchise Champion" by the WBC"

Unified world champion Lomachenko, who won the vacant WBC belt by decision over Luke Campbell on Aug. 31, was stripped of the belt and given the honorary title of "franchise champion," the second in WBC history since its recent creation for Canelo Alvarez. Interim titlist Haney, who elevated to the WBC's world titleholder, had been scheduled to defend the interim belt on Nov. 9 against an opponent to be named and now will defend the full title. Also, the Nov. 2 bout between former titleholders Javier Fortuna and Jesus Cuellar was approved as a final eliminator to determine Haney's mandatory challenger.

Cause WBC is full of sh1t and gonna try to extort this dude lol

It doesn't matter what the WBC want to call him on twitter or what belts they give him, unless they strip Devin Haney of his belt then there is no Undisputed Lightweight Champion

The undisputed champ needs the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO world titles at the same time, the current WBC lightweight champion is Devin Haney

Lets use their twitter for another example, what do they say is happening this weekend? Oh the Lightweight World title is being defended, by who?



That doesn't look like Kambosos to me

It doesn’t matter what new belts WBC wants to create, if you don’t have the WBC Lightweight World champion belt you are not undisputed.

That's a lie. Tell me who said Ali, Frazier, Foreman, sugar ray Leonard, Hagler was a bum after 1 loss?

Stop being stupid bro. That sh1t got like this because of floyd

You keep saying "world champion". You do know the franchise is a world championship too right ?

That's why it says "WORLD CHAMPION" on the franchise belt. There's TWO world lightweight champions now at the WBC. Just like there is at the WBA.

A Franchise world champion then a regular world champion. Just like the WBA has a super world champion (Kambosos) and a regular world champion ( Tank).

You're saying because Lomachenko was elevated to a new higher belt he was no longer champion.

Was Lennox Lewis no longer WBA champion when the WBA made the super champ designation for him and elevated him ? When the WBA elevated Floyd to super champion, was he no longer a world champion ?

So, what seemed as a grand stage for Lopez to lay out the blueprint for a huge 2022 wound up shaking up boxing with a new holder of three (WBA, WBO and IBF) of the four major lightweight titles . Devin Haney is the WBC lightweight champ and used Saturday night to kick Lopez while he's down.

I keep saying “WBC World Lightweight Champion” because that’s what the title Haney holds is called. That’s one of the 4 major titles a fighter needs to hold to be considered “Undisputed”, “WBC Franchise Champion” isn’t a title it’s a special designation, and having that designation is not one of the requirements for a fighter to be “undisputed”

The WBC did change the rules to make it transferable, but only by vote after the promoters petition for it. Also if I’m not mistaken WBA has the super and regular titles for every weightclass? Is there a franchise champion in every class? No , because it’s just a special designation that the WBC decides to hand out. So it’s not comparable at all to the WBA belts especially because there wasn’t a way for fighters to win the “franchise champion” designation until the WBC fu#ked up and voted to let Teo win it from Loma now Teo lost and they get caught with their d1cks in hand

If the “franchise champion” is higher than the “world champion” why didn’t they have Teos picture on the champions list and Haney as a footnote? If a major WBC belt was on the line why does the DAZN article say

it’s confusing as fu#k and that snake Mauricio flip flops on this sh1t every other week, most likely he’s trying to bleed every $ he can out of these fighters.

RIght Haney is the WBC regular world champion just like Tank is the WBA regular world champion.

Kambosos is currently the Franchise WORLD champion. The WBA puts the super champ above the regular champ. The WBC puts the franchise over the regular champ.

It doesn't matter if there's not a franchise champion in every division. When the WBA first introduced the super champ there wasn't a super champ in every division. It started with just one guy being elevated.

WHO (meaning what authoritative body) says the regular wbc belt (that haney holds) is the one that's needed towards undisputed and not the franchise ? WHO has the authority OVER the WBC to say that ?

Newsflash, there is none. So nobody has that authority except the governing bodies themselves to dictate their own belts. THEY choose what their top belt is and what counts from their own organization towards undisputed. WBC has designated that the franchise is the top prize and it counts from them towards undisputed. How is someone else going to tell the WBC what counts from THEIR organization ?

You may not like it but YOU don't make the rules.

Why is it so hard to understand the fact that an organization can not only MAKE whatever rules they want but also CHANGE the rules whenever they want.

When WBC made the franchise they said it's our HIGHEST belt and we WILL recognize it towards undisputed. What governing body above the WBC can say it's NOT undisputed ? NOBODY. So the WBC has the last word on THEIR belt that comes from THEIR organization because THEY make the rules for THEIR titles and they can also CHANGE the rules whenever THEY want.

Once Teo's petition got approved that was it. I don't think Kambosos petitioned so it's basically functioning as a regular title now BUT even when it wasn't it was still counted towards undisputed by the WBC and there's no one above them that says it can't be seen that way.

but NOW it functions and moves as any other belt. They didn't "F up" just because YOU don't like it. They made a decision to change it because they can do that. It's THEIR belt.

Just because other promoters and networks that don't have Lopez under contract didn't want to mention him as franchise champ doesn't mean anything.

Crawford was ignored by PBC and not shown or mentioned multiple times when talking about 147 champs. That doesn't mean he's not a champ because PBC wanted to ignore him.

Canelo is boxing he chooses who to fight and when to fight them that’s the thing. He’s the cash cow like flloyd was. They all do it.

Go to 2:30



He says Lopez is in his own category free to fight anyone without obligations, and Haney is the lightweight champ that has to fight mandatories. Notice how also calls it a “designation” He doesn’t say sh1t about one being above the world champ belt so stop comparing it to the WBA super and regular belts that both have rankings and mandatories they have to face.

There isn’t an authority that gives someone the “Undisputed”
title, it’s just common knowledge that it’s the WBC, WBA, WBO, and IBF belt holder in one weightclass. Before it looked like this

1922–1963, a boxer who held both the NYSAC and NBA (WBA) world titles simultaneously
1963–1983, a boxer who held both the WBA and WBC world titles simultaneously
1983–2007, a boxer who held the WBA, WBC, and IBF world titles simultaneously
2007–present, a boxer who holds the WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO world titles simultaneously

If the WBC wants to make the franchise belt be their main belt then they need to establish it in every weight class and set up rankings so that fighters can actually win the belt, until then no matter what they say no one is gonna recognize that as part of undisputed

Edit: I’ve heard Mauricio specifically referring to Teo as “unified” and not “undisputed” so maybe that fu#king weasel shouldn’t be trusted

There isn’t an authority that gives someone the “Undisputed”

If the WBC wants to make the franchise belt be their main belt then they need to establish it in every weight class and set up rankings so that fighters can actually win the belt, until then no matter what they say no one is gonna recognize that as part of undisputed

Edit: I’ve heard Mauricio specifically referring to Teo as “unified” and not “undisputed” so maybe that fu#king weasel shouldn’t be trusted

Why do you keep the same things over and over that have already been debunked ?

The franchise is over/above the world champ belt because Sulaiman has said multiples times that it's the HIGHEST honor from the WBC and you have to ELEVATED to it.

Do you know what ELEVATED and HIGHEST means ? Does that mean it's higher or lower ? Superior or inferior ? Over or under ?

Let's use LOGIC and a BASIC understanding of english. The WBC Franchise is OVER the REGULAR title because Sulaiman said it's the HIGHEST honor and Canelo and Loma had to get the WBC regular title first then be voted and approved to be ELEVATED to franchise. Were they lowered or downgraded to franchise ? NO. Like C'mon man, stop acting like you don't know what basic words mean.

Like Sulaiman said the franchise is the HIGHEST honor so even a 5th grader could tell you it's OVER the regular WBC title by simple use of the word HIGHEST. Do you know what happens when you're the HIGHEST ? You're over everything else right ?

You know what WBC has also said ? It counts toward undisputed. You know what else they made happen since last year ? It can be transferred now in fights.

So HOW is it different from any other belt ?

The WBA super can't be used to bypass mandatories ? Yes they can and have. the WBA has gone back and forth and changed on this issue over the years but WBA super champs have definitely used it to not face mandatories.

Keith Thurman was WBA interim and Floyd's mandatory when Floyd was a WBA regular champ. The WBA ELEVATED fFoyd to WBA super champ and Thurman got bumped up to WBA regular champ just like Haney did with the WBC and guess what ? Floyd no longer had to face Thurman.

So Floyd was ELEVATED to a "designation" that allowed him to bypass his mandatory, that also counted towards undisputed if the other belts were collected, and could be transferred in fights.

HOW is that any different than what happened with the Franchise situation ?



Duh, that's what I just said in the my last post.

Therefore each organization gets to decide what their highest title is and what counts towards undisputed.

and the WBC has said franchise counts and is their highest championship. Doesn't matter if you don't like it. They make the rules for their belts.





Why ? because you said so ? Smh. You still don't understand it's THEIR organization so THEY make the rules.

When the WBA first made up the super championship, they didn't just make one automatically available for every division. You had to be considered and elevated.


You do know that when you're undisputed you're unified too right ? Unified just means you have two or more of the main belts. When someone is undisputed they're by default also unified. So you can rightfully be addressed as either.

You breathe with your mouth open don’t you

WBC doesn’t decide who’s undisputed they can market whoever they want as undisputed but the only way you can be considered that is if you have the “WBC World Champion” belt as well as the other major titles go look at every boxing publication and website and tell me who’s listed as the Lightweight world champion, go to the WBC website and tell me who the lightweight world champion is. The franchise designation has nothing to do with the WBA belts

Final Press Conference

You got the boxing threads on lock, you should post a thread on this :

Just made one bi#ch a$s n1gga

Yea I just saw that and posted in it, you fu#king lame. Acting like you own the rights to the story

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You seen my thread then ran and told dude to make a thread, you a bi#ch a$s hatin pillow talking a$s n1gga in real life I see