Cam Newton had to get Warren Sapps mind right about “Game Changer & Game Manager” - page 2

In your eyes did you remove the label because his team kept winning trophies or did he stop because his talent/skill level increased and his style of play changed? I ask because I don't believe his skill and talent level increased or his game changed. He just got wiser and stronger mentally on the field. It's hard for me to change the description based on team awards and success.

Yeah that just sounds like some Jordan Peterson word salad tbh. Tom Brady is elite at reading defenses, has elite accuracy, elite pocket presence and an above average arm. You don't have to run a 4.4 to be a game changer.

Again, name ONE other "game manager" qb who was tasked with sitting in 5 wide and dissecting defenses, to the point even their best WRs became expendable.

I think we just have different definitions of game managers. Alex Smith is a game manager. No matter how he played - his ceiling was low and his floor was high. He wasn't going to win you a game but he could hold on to the W if an elite defense supported him. Tom Brady goes down and wins the fkng game every time there was an opportunity to do so.

Being a "gun slinger" is not the anti-thesis of a game manager. Jay Cutler was a gun slinger ... so was Rex Grossman. Aaron Rodgers is more physically gifted than Tom, he just wasn't as precise when the lights got bright. Game managers don't STEP UP AND DOMINATE every time the lights get bright. Thats what superstars do.

Tom Brady is the furthest thing from a game manager.

Warren Sapp is an idiot. Implying that Troy was a game manager is a complete disservice. Troy Aikman won a SB MVP. He's always bringing up who had more TD passes when talking about Brad Johnson and Troy Aikman. Johnson had more TD passes than Roger Staubach and Bart Starr too. Were those guys game managers? fu#k no. Johnson has a whole 1 more TD pass than Aikman and played 3 more years than Aikman. The dude acts like he has 20 or 30 more TD pass.

Aikman played in a controlled run first offense in an era where throwing TD passes were not at a high volume. If you threw for 30 TD passes in a season that was very impressive but that wasn't the design of the Cowboy offense. Sapp has such a hatred and jealousy of the 90s Cowboys. Always bad mouthing Emmitt, Michael and Troy. Meanwhile Sapp played with Ronde Barber, Derrick Brooks, John Lynch, and Simeon Rice, and Hardy Nickerson. Yeah Sapp you definitely weren't playing with a full stack on defense lol.

Tom Brady threw one touchdown during the entire 2001 playoffs. They won the Super Bowl. Nobody was prepping for tom brady until after the 2nd super bowl.

Yeah that just sounds like some Jordan Peterson word salad tbh. Tom Brady is elite at reading defenses, has elite accuracy, elite pocket presence and an above average arm. You don't have to run a 4.4 to be a game changer.

Again, name ONE other "game manager" qb who was tasked with sitting in 5 wide and dissecting defenses, to the point even their best WRs became expendable.

Then there was 14 more years of his career after that lol
Not many QBs enter the league dominating. You learn how to become an NFL QB.
The counter that look at the falcons vs patriots superbowl. Greatest come back in Super Bowl history. You don’t do that with a game manager.

He was the purest form of game manager - elite like mentioned and it’s not a slight, you could see what he could do once he got weapons like moss and gronk.

2002 brady had 1 rushing td and 1 passing td through out the entirety of the playoffs. They won the super bowl again.

James White should’ve won mvp in the falcons Super Bowl.. 140 total yards, 3 tds, 14 receptions (sb record), and game winning touchdown

Narratives are a thing.

In your eyes did you remove the label because his team kept winning trophies or did he stop because his talent/skill level increased and his style of play changed? I ask because I don't believe his skill and talent level increased or his game changed. He just got wiser and stronger mentally on the field. It's hard for me to change the description based on team awards and success.

carrying no name
non-top 15 receivers to chips means ur doing more than just managing a game...