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Don Snow
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 Rockstar718 said
So if I give you examples of stars who had to take a pay cut, you assume non-star players wouldn't do or havent done the same?
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"Difference makers" take less to play certain teams as well. If stars have to do it, everyone has to do it. This is a business. Owners aren't in this to spend money.

Some "difference makers" have gotten paid some years in free agency because of how much they qualify for based on years in the league and any salary cap exceptions they have that year. If a player is entitled to a max contract due their Bird rights the team is allowed to go over the cap to sign him. If a player has their Bird rights in a year where there's a lot of cap space available, it can lead to huge paydays for them. It's what the players union worked out

The Knicks have OG's Bird rights. There is not a lot of free agents with his skill set in free agency this year, if he plays well we likely would have to pay to keep him. That does not mean we have to pay him the full max, especially if he wants to play here.

New York is also one of the biggest markets in the league there is no shortage of outside endorsement available to players locally. It's one of the selling points of the city. Players more than make up for the salary they sacrifice to put a team together.
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no the fu#k they don’t they can’t recoup that money like stars do 10 mill is nothing to KD in his 30s but it’s a hell of a lot more to OG Anunoby in his 20s

Those guys are also at the tail end of their careers sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars already full of outside endorsements their own shoe lines
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it’s a terrible analogy it’s not the same

You saying the CEO and the Employee got the same money allocations and principles
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Why you explaining the cap man I know what it is that’s my entire point you making my point for me
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blkmanisgod triple plat x5
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 CJ Schwarz said
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I'm doing my part, everyday
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Don Snow
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 dakid4b said
you the same dude who said the knicks traded all their assets.

you the same dude who said no star has ever taken a pay cut

you the same dude who said rj contract is not bad when he will be making 28 and 30m soon

what else am i missing
You can’t read

I said they traded their 2 best YOUNG assets you big dummy, What are their other best young assets?

I said difference makers don’t take pay cuts 99% of the time not stars again you can’t read

I gotta tell you again RJ makes less than Kyle Lowry Cam Johnson John Collins Gordon Hayward?? Paid the same as guys like Terry Rozier?? Not to mention he’s 5 6 years younger than most these guys
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that’s a standard contract now

and the cap is going up so it will be an even more team friendly deal
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Stars are making 50M per now dumb dumb

You missing everything you don’t know what the fu#k you talking bout


Last edited by Don Snow; 01-05-2024 at 09:25 AM..
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CJ Schwarz triple plat x277 OP
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 blkmanisgod said


I'm doing my part, everyday
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You're a good one I still have RJ and Quick on my voting card
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FIRE BOONE triple plat x2
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 CJ Schwarz said
You're a good one I still have RJ and Quick on my voting card
I unfollowed them n1ggas. fu#k the other side
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GiantsGunsNPS5 triple plat x3
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CJ Schwarz triple plat x277 OP
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 GiantsGunsNPS5 said
We here lfg!!!!
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FIRE BOONE triple plat x2
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Cant wait to see Philly
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CJ Schwarz triple plat x277 OP
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 POWER RAPS said
I unfollowed them n1ggas. fu#k the other side
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Respect; however, I'm starting the Zion to Toronto movement.
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Rockstar718
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 Don Snow said
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no the fu#k they don’t they can’t recoup that money like stars do 10 mill is nothing to KD in his 30s but it’s a hell of a lot more to OG Anunoby in his 20s

Those guys are also at the tail end of their careers sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars already full of outside endorsements their own shoe lines
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it’s a terrible analogy it’s not the same

You saying the CEO and the Employee got the same money allocations and principles
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Why you explaining the cap man I know what it is that’s my entire point you making my point for me
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Fam, if that's the case then how come every single NBA player doesn't have a max contract? There will always be role players who take less to stay or play in a good situation.

If there are star players who never got paid their worth, why do you think there are lesser players would?

I honestly don't know what your point is because you change your point every single response. Please go back and look at our conversation and try and walk me through your logic
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dakid4b
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 Don Snow said
You can’t read

I said they traded their 2 best YOUNG assets you big dummy, What are their other best young assets?

I said difference makers don’t take pay cuts 99% of the time not stars again you can’t read

I gotta tell you again RJ makes less than Kyle Lowry Cam Johnson John Collins Gordon Hayward?? Paid the same as guys like Terry Rozier?? Not to mention he’s 5 6 years younger than most these guys
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that’s a standard contract now

and the cap is going up so it will be an even more team friendly deal
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Stars are making 50M per now dumb dumb

You missing everything you don’t know what the fu#k you talking bout
so you can use the cap going up to justify contracts but we cant got it
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jayevryday
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 CJ Schwarz said
We here lfg!!!!
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BxCastro
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 Sin said
I’m a nets fan and i refuse to vote for any of them

Randal definitely deserves Mikals spot
At least yall went out and voted for Bridges.

 The Nutcracker said
Only guard i see on that list that i would say without a doubt is better then Brunson is Haliburton

I think Brunson has surpassed Dame. Hes a much more efficient shooter then Trae. DMitch had a few games where he didnt show up in the 2nd half of playoff games last year against us. Brunsons outplayed him 2 years in a row going back to when Jalen was on the Mavs and they eliminated a better Jazz team while not having Luka for a few of the games

As for Randle, most those names i cant be mad at but Kuzma? I like Kuzma but he shouldnt have more votes then Randle smh
I'm mad at every name outside the top 3 Julius is having a better season than all of them. I think for brunson I can see why spyda is above tough to argue against 28 5 n 5 and he's kind of a household name
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CJ Schwarz triple plat x277 OP
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 BxCastro said
At least yall went out and voted for Bridges.



I'm mad at every name outside the top 3 Julius is having a better season than all of them. I think for brunson I can see why spyda is above tough to argue against 28 5 n 5 and he's kind of a household name
All star votes are international. Mikal plays for the only Chinese owner in the league.
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Camricco1
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Lfg!
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blkmanisgod triple plat x5
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Randle should have more votes than bridges and kp.. everyone else i see a case for.
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CJ Schwarz triple plat x277 OP
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 blkmanisgod said
Randle should have more votes than bridges and kp.. everyone else i see a case for.
Randle doesn't have the personality to be an all star vote getter he'll be an alternate
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blkmanisgod triple plat x5
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 CJ Schwarz said
Randle doesn't have the personality to be an all star vote getter he'll be an alternate
Not saying that he is him, but Ewing didn't have a "personality" neither.. but i think the fan vote wasnt as strong back then.
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 POWER RAPS said
I unfollowed them n1ggas. fu#k the other side
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name on front, fu#k da other side
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blkmanisgod triple plat x5
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 59fifty said
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name on front, fu#k da other side
^ !! I've learned that from Joe Beningo, word to my mother, son!!
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CJ Schwarz triple plat x277 OP
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 blkmanisgod said
Nit saying that he is him, but Ewing didn't have a "personality" neither.. but i think the fan vote wasnt as strong back then.
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That was a different Era and Ewing was popular before becoming a Knick. All star is a popularity contest.
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blkmanisgod triple plat x5
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 CJ Schwarz said
That was a different Era and Ewing was popular before becoming a Knick. All star is a popularity contest.
True.. Randle wasn't projected to be the player he is right now
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CJ Schwarz triple plat x277 OP
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 blkmanisgod said
True.. Randle wasn't projected to be the player he is right now
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Factor in negative national coverage of the team which establishes implicit bias

Then Randle is seen arguing with the refs a lot even though they deserve it

He isn't very marketable at this point

Only thing that'll improve it is Playoff performance
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Don Snow
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  '16 
 Rockstar718 said
Fam, if that's the case then how come every single NBA player doesn't have a max contract? There will always be role players who take less to stay or play in a good situation.

If there are star players who never got paid their worth, why do you think there are lesser players would?

I honestly don't know what your point is because you change your point every single response. Please go back and look at our conversation and try and walk me through your logic
bruh

You can’t be serious

Taking less in comparison to their other offers man you kidding me?? No sh1t Damian Lillard is making more than a role player 🤣

My point has never changed you just can’t comprehend what I’m saying after 7 pages

I told you difference makers don't take less than what their offered - you started talking about superstars who got commercials and shoe deals
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then you started talking about Bird rights

Players in OG bracket rarely take a discount, they take their highest offer. It is the key reason he was traded in the first place in a contract year as he's asking for 40 million dollars. If he's such a great player about to be on a great deal why the fu#k would the Raptors trade him?? A) he wants too much money or B) they got more value in the trade its as simple as that man
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Don Snow
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  '16 
 dakid4b said
so you can use the cap going up to justify contracts but we cant got it
for someone 4 years younger making 15 mill less fool yeah

stand on your square and plant your flag that OG at 40 mill is a good contract
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