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Sep 20 - How the fentanyl crisis' fourth wave has hit every corner of the US


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 5 months ago '23        #106
Tajin 
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I haven’t touched white in almost 2 years because of this sh1t. Not worth the risk.
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Top 10 most propped recently  5 months ago '07        #105
yola  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x89
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this is your friendly reminder that our government - made up almost exclusively of college-educated christians - considers fentanyl, and all opiates, safer than cannabis

the American government - made up almost exclusively of college-educated christians - says that cannabis has no medical value and is the exact same as heroin and crack-cocaine

even methamphetamine is a Schedule 2 drug

so our elected representatives - who all but 2 are college graduates - think that opiates and meth are not only safer than cannabis, but even meth has medical value according to the educated, capital-oriented, faith-based political representation this country offers

think about that the next time you're being judged by the conservatism of a snobby christian or a college graduate
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 5 months ago '14        #104
bigbellyman 
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just lost two homeboys this month to that sh1t. they both thought it was a perc they was taking.
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 5 months ago '16        #103
smokeytheblunt2 
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 Peace7 said 🔗
At what point is the risk not worth the high?
in a lot of these cases you’re talking about people that have/had been on opiates for 10 plus years(22 for me) and for somebody with depression quitting took all of my limited happiness away. Opiates can forever alter your brain chemistry and to some people being happy again is worth their life…….

I’ve been off opiates for seven years and I’ll be the first one to tell you I’m miserable without them but not willing to make my Mom and Grandma cry over my misery………
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 5 months ago '06        #102
jccd5.  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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fu#k fentanyl
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 5 months ago '04        #101
xbossxplayax 
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Whos pumping this poison into the u.s.?

Folks used to say guns in the hood aint made by the ppl who live there

Drugs aint made by the people who live there

So follow the money n see where its coming from! China?
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 5 months ago '16        #100
smokeytheblunt2 
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 Yousabi#chtoo said 🔗
Crazy how during trumps entireeee presidency this wasn’t happening
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The fu#k if it wasn’t…….

started right when he was coming into office(not there was sh1t he could have done anyway)……..

matter of fact I knew more people that passed on fent during trumps presidency than bidens but this doesn’t have to do sh1t with either……….
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 5 months ago '22        #99
Yousabitchtoo 
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You guys watch the mini series painki1ler on Netflix? Good short watch. 6 episodes
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 5 months ago '16        #98
smokeytheblunt2 
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so the doctors fu#ked up and gave every adult with slight pain 80’s and would give kids perc 5’s for bad headaches, then they overcorrected the problem they started which lead to heroin to which gave way to fent………

now they’re doing the same sh1t with benzos as they’ve overprescribed them for years and are over correcting again leading to an even more increased risk of running into fent on the street………

It’s almost like they should legalize most drugs or something………..
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 5 months ago '16        #97
smokeytheblunt2 
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 Oracle222 said 🔗
Watch painki1ler on Netflix it's about the Sackler family and how they blew up Oxy ..I don't see fentanyl as something much different than Oxy.
I have a hard time watching sh1t about opiates……..

sh1t sounds crazy and sad but minus one dead ex I miss opiates more than I’ve ever missed an ex gf and it’s hard watching sh1t about it…..

during REALLY bad days I’ll watch heroin docs where I know most of the people are going to die at the end to remind myself why I stay away………
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 5 months ago '11        #96
Smuggz  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x2
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 smokeytheblunt2 said 🔗
in a lot of these cases you’re talking about people that have/had been on opiates for 10 plus years(22 for me) and for somebody with depression quitting took all of my limited happiness away. Opiates can forever alter your brain chemistry and to some people being happy again is worth their life…….

I’ve been off opiates for seven years and I’ll be the first one to tell you I’m miserable without them but not willing to make my Mom and Grandma cry over my misery………
My man
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 5 months ago '22        #95
Voodoogeddon  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x12
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This is why the border is wide open imo
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 5 months ago '16        #94
smokeytheblunt2 
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 Smuggz said 🔗
My man
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there’s countless people struggling like this that don’t have the luxury of a great family to fall back on like I do. people need help out here but are just met with outdated, proven wrong ideas. Methadone works to an extent but comes with its own horrors. Nobody is even positive what suboxone does long term and its failure rate is crazy. My suboxone clinic was so full a year ago they had to expand the lot. Now there might be 20 people there during a good hour. Most of the people that left are dead. Mostly overdoses and su1cides…..

sorry to respond with a fu#king essay but this sh1t is heartbreaking and frustrating. I’m so tired of seeing crying Moms, my guy…….
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 5 months ago '05        #93
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Sep 20 - How the fentanyl crisis' fourth wave has hit every corner of the US
 

 
How the fentanyl crisis' fourth wave has hit every corner of the US

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More Americans than ever are dying from fentanyl overdoses as the fourth wave of the opioid epidemic crashes through every community, in every corner of the country.

It was six years ago that Kim Blake's son Sean died from an accidental fentanyl overdose in Burlington, Vermont. He was 27 years old.

"Every time I hear of a loss to substance use, my heart breaks a little more," Ms Blake wrote in a blog dedicated to her son in 2021.

"Another family shattered. Forever grieving the loss of dreams and celebrations."

That year, the US witnessed a grim milestone: for the first time ever, drug overdoses ki1led more than 100,000 people across the country in one single year.

Of those deaths, more than 66% were tied to fentanyl, a synthetic opioid 50 times more powerful than heroin.

Fentanyl is a pharmaceutical drug that can be prescribed by a doctor to treat severe pain.

But the drug is also illegally manufactured and sold by criminal gangs. Most of the illegal fentanyl found in the US is trafficked from Mexico using chemicals sourced from China, according to the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).

In 2010, less than 40,000 people died from a drug overdose across the country, and less than 10% of those deaths were tied to fentanyl.

Back then, deaths were mostly driven by the use of heroin or prescription opioids.

The contrast is outlined in a study released this week by researchers at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) that examines trends in US overdose deaths from 2010-21 using data compiled by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The data paints a clear picture of how fentanyl has redefined drug overdoses in America over the last decade.

"The rise of illicitly manufactured fentanyl has ushered in an overdose crisis in the United States of unprecedented magnitude," the study's authors wrote.

Virtually every corner of the US, from Hawaii to Alaska to Rhode Island, has been touched by fentanyl.

The rise in fentanyl-related deaths was first observed in 2015, the data shows.

Since then, the drug has spread across the US and death rates have grown sharply.

"In 2018, around 80% of fentanyl overdoses happened east of the Mississippi river," Chelsea Shover, an assistant professor at UCLA's school of medicine and co-author of the study, told the BBC.

But in 2019, "fentanyl becomes part of the drug supply in the Western US, and suddenly this population that had been insulated from it is exposed, and death rates start to go up," Prof Shover said.

In their study, the researchers sound the alarm on another growing trend: deaths related to the use of fentanyl and another stimulant drug, like cocaine or methamphetamine.

This trend is being observed across the US, albeit in different ways owing to drug use patterns that differ from region to region.

For example, researchers found higher death rates related to the use of fentanyl and cocaine in north-eastern US states, like Vermont and Connecticut, where cocaine has been traditionally more available.

But for virtually everywhere else in the country, from West Virginia to California, deaths were primarily driven by the use of both methamphetamines and fentanyl.

Ms Blake, who is also a trained physician, said her son sporadically used cocaine, though his toxicology report revealed only fentanyl in his system.

She learned that many use fentanyl along with another stimulant for a prolonged high.

"It's no surprise to me that we're seeing such an increase in stimulant-opioid combinations," Ms Blake told the BBC.

When fentanyl first arrived in the US as part of the illegal drug supply, "a lot of people did not want it", Prof Shover said. But the synthetic opiate became widely available as it is cheaper to produce compared to other drugs.

It is also highly addictive, meaning people who struggle with substance use and are exposed to it often seek it out to avoid painful withdrawals.

Across the US, the study identified states like Alaska, West Virginia, Rhode Island, Hawaii and California as having the highest rates of overdose deaths involving fentanyl and another drug.

These states have historically high rates of drug use, Prof Shover said. With the arrival of fentanyl, drug use in those areas has become more lethal.

No longer just a 'white problem'
The opioid crisis has been traditionally portrayed as a "white problem", Prof Shover said.

Her study, however, revealed that African Americans are dying from a combination of fentanyl and other drug use at higher rates, across age groups and geographical lines.

For Rasheeda Watts-Pearson, an Ohio-based harm reduction specialist, the data reflects what she has seen in her region.

She has been doing outreach work with A1 Stigma Free, a grassroots organisation that was founded just eight months ago to tackle a notable rise of overdose deaths within the African-American community in Cincinnati.

As part of her work, Ms Watts-Pearson frequently visits barbershops, bars and grocery stores to talk to people about the deadly impacts of fentanyl.

She said she does this because of a lack of awareness, driven partly by historic healthcare disparities experienced by racial and ethnic minority groups.

Even marketing campaigns made to bring awareness to the opioid crisis have not included the experience of black Americans, she said.

"I can drive down Avondale right now, there is a billboard that says 'Opioid Crisis', but there's two white people on that billboard," Ms Watts-Pearson said.

A big blind spot for her community has been fentanyl-laced street drugs, she said, which has led to people unknowingly using the deadly, synthetic opioid, and developing a dependency to it.

"The coroner's office is seeing people overdose and die off of cocaine, off of crack, off of pills, with traces of fentanyl," she said.

"It has been infiltrated in the black community now, and not enough people are talking about it."

A fourth wave
The lethal use of fentanyl in combination with other drugs has marked the "fourth wave" of the overdose crisis in the US, researchers have said.

And experts like Prof Shover have cautioned that treatment options in the US for substance use have not kept up.

"Our treatment system for substance use disorder is often focused on one drug at a time," Prof Shover said. "But the reality is, many people who use drugs use more than one kind of drug."

To keep her son's memory alive, Ms Blake has been outspoken about her loss and has helped other families go through their grief of losing a loved one to an overdose.

"Everyone has a story, and for a parent who has lost a child, that is forever," she said.

Her son had been enrolled in treatment a few times during his battle with substance use disorder.

The experience taught Ms Blake that care options vary from state to state, and in many cases, what is available is not enough.

"Ideally, I think we would see something where people would get treatment rapidly, whenever they want it, and long-term," she said.

Ms Blake also raised the idea of overdose prevention sites, where people could use drugs safely and under supervision.

Those sites are widely available in Canada - which has its own fentanyl crisis - but only two sanctioned sites exist in the US.

Above all, Ms Blake has called for compassion and understanding for those who are struggling with substance use.

"Most people I talk to, their kids did not want to die," she said.


 https://www.bbc.com/news/ .. anada-66826895
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 5 months ago '11        #92
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 smokeytheblunt2 said 🔗
there’s countless people struggling like this that don’t have the luxury of a great family to fall back on like I do. people need help out here but are just met with outdated, proven wrong ideas. Methadone works to an extent but comes with its own horrors. Nobody is even positive what suboxone does long term and its failure rate is crazy. My suboxone clinic was so full a year ago they had to expand the lot. Now there might be 20 people there during a good hour. Most of the people that left are dead. Mostly overdoses and su1cides…..

sorry to respond with a fu#king essay but this sh1t is heartbreaking and frustrating. I’m so tired of seeing crying Moms, my guy…….
There's a negative stigma to those unfamiliar.
Addiction is heartbreaking on a number of levels and it's reach goes well beyond the user.
The fact opioids are pushed on vulnerable folk and solid situations need to be put in place to remove the habit, it is grim for those who don't have any foundation to lean on.

I ran everyone off except Ma. Ma held me down until I knew I was done drinking. I wouldn't be anywhere without her.

I got childhood friends suffering and they've pushed all their support away too.

There is no clear solution to addiction in general because it's always intertwined with employment, housing, and legitimate support out of the initial stages of habit removal that - without those things in reasonable reach, people fall back, and quickly.

Glad you have those around you to keep your footing steady.
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 5 months ago '18        #91
Peace7 
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At what point is the risk not worth the high?
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 5 months ago '22        #90
Oracle222 
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 Yousabi#chtoo said 🔗
You guys watch the mini series painki1ler on Netflix? Good short watch. 6 episodes
I just wrote about that. Behind every addictive drug there is a rich white family behind it. Really nothing happened to the sackler family they still walked away with their wealth.
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 5 months ago '04        #89
Hardkore  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x3
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i saw "fentanyl" on my medical bill once and went

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them doctors had me on percocets and fenty after my left ankle bone* was split in two after a crazy car accident.

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 5 months ago '22        #88
Yousabitchtoo 
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 smokeytheblunt2 said 🔗
The fu#k if it wasn’t…….

started right when he was coming into office(not there was sh1t he could have done anyway)……..

matter of fact I knew more people that passed on fent during trumps presidency than bidens but this doesn’t have to do sh1t with either……….
It was sarcasm bro
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 5 months ago '16        #87
smokeytheblunt2 
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 Yousabi#chtoo said 🔗
It was sarcasm bro
I’m sorry, my guy……..

it’s bx and obviously getting increasingly hard to tell but that said I should have picked up on it……..

*edit* I’m dumb………..
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 5 months ago '05        #86
nigelmes1 
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Lost my childhood best friend to this. fu#kin Kensington man. fu#k fentanyl and anybody who sells it
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 5 months ago '15        #85
BalmainReyes 
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 smokeytheblunt2 said 🔗
in a lot of these cases you’re talking about people that have/had been on opiates for 10 plus years(22 for me) and for somebody with depression quitting took all of my limited happiness away. Opiates can forever alter your brain chemistry and to some people being happy again is worth their life…….

I’ve been off opiates for seven years and I’ll be the first one to tell you I’m miserable without them but not willing to make my Mom and Grandma cry over my misery………
Thank you for this honest perspective.
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 5 months ago '15        #84
DamianDragunov 
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 smokeytheblunt2 said 🔗
in a lot of these cases you’re talking about people that have/had been on opiates for 10 plus years(22 for me) and for somebody with depression quitting took all of my limited happiness away. Opiates can forever alter your brain chemistry and to some people being happy again is worth their life…….

I’ve been off opiates for seven years and I’ll be the first one to tell you I’m miserable without them but not willing to make my Mom and Grandma cry over my misery………



I can 2nd this…

Edit: after years of being on them, they wear out the neurotr@nsmitters and block the uptake and production of serotonin and dopamine. The chemicals that make you feel happiness and good when doing something you enjoy. So after you stop, doing the activities that used to make you happy or feel good, don’t give you the same feelings of enjoyment. That’s after the weeks of being sicker than you’ve ever felt before, months of not being able to sleep right. It’s why so many heroin addicts relapse or commit su1cide years after stopping.. Nothing can make them feel good or give the same enjoyment anymore. They say after years and years the synapses will start to be able to fire again. Opiate addiction is a lot more complicated than “just say no”


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 5 months ago '10        #83
Bandito  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x7
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 smokeytheblunt2 said 🔗
so the doctors fu#ked up and gave every adult with slight pain 80’s and would give kids perc 5’s for bad headaches, then they overcorrected the problem they started which lead to heroin to which gave way to fent………

now they’re doing the same sh1t with benzos as they’ve overprescribed them for years and are over correcting again leading to an even more increased risk of running into fent on the street………

It’s almost like they should legalize most drugs or something………..
This sh1t being going on longer than anyone been alive. Title of the thread is misleading. When people say "fourth wave" they are talking about opioids overall. Not just fentanyl.

The first wave is said to have started in the 90's. I have my own timeline of the different waves.

First wave: Opium in the early 20th century. Was considered safe. Look at all the health products that contained opium.

Second wave: Opium was found to not be safe and people switched to Heroin (considered safer than Opium). It started to become a problem from the 50s to the 90s. Still around but hard to find "pure" sh1t.

Third wave: Oxycontin and other prescription opioids in the 1990s and 2000s. Again. Considered safe until it became a problem.

Fourth wave: Where we are now with Fent.

I work in the social work field and Fent is already considered old news. It is considered somewhat controllable with safer use (don't use alone, use fent test strips and have Narcan on hand to reverse an overdose). That's where the education part is coming into play now. Kids are not smart about it even with all the info out there. A poll of high schoolers showed a majority of them think fentanyl is only as dangerous as smoking cigarettes.

What's scary is the next sh1t that's coming. Xylazine aka Tranq is making its way across the US. There is not a version of Narcan to help when someone ODs from that. There will be articles like this about it in a few years.

With stimulants, depressants and everything else in-between still around, people like to get high.

Even if it means sticking pyrethrin in their veins.

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 5 months ago '06        #82
jccd5.  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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 Thisizdray said 🔗
Don’t use drugs. I’m okay with this. Let’s treat it like the crack epidemic and give the people decades and life in prison for using as well as selling
You're ok with this?

Your post and way of thinking is wrong in so many ways.

Give people decades in prison for using drugs, ala the crack era

You're an idiot.
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