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Dec 8 - Lee Harvey Oswald Tied To CIA Before JFK Assassination, Investigator Claims


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Any time people believe what our Government says 100%, just ask them if they believe our government had any involvement with the murder/cover up of JFK… and if the answers yes, then everything should be questioned, because it gets no higher then murdering a president. After that, nothings off the table
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 3 months ago '15        #92
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Lee Harvey was a patsy, he did work with intelligence, that’s also how he knew he has been made the patsy. There was a lee Harvey Oswald type in Chicago and Miami in case Dallas failed
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 3 months ago '18        #91
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This ain't news breh...........this was already divulged in JFK ..........The Mafia k*lled Kennedy and the US gov helped them.........
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 3 months ago '04        #90
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fully detailed out how they did it


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 3 months ago '19        #89
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Dec 8 - Lee Harvey Oswald Tied To CIA Before JFK a*sassination, Investigator Claims
 

 
CIA documents indicate Lee Harvey Oswald was involved in a secret intelligence operation roughly three months before the a*sassination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963, an investigator claimed this week.

Jefferson Morley, a journalist and author, made the a*sertion during a press conference in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday, less than two weeks before President Joe Biden’s December 15 deadline to release still-classified records related to the a*sassination.

“What the CIA is hiding is what they’ve always hidden, which is their sources and methods as they relate to Lee Harvey Oswald,” Morley said at the National Press Club, according to the Independent. “We’re talking about smoking-gun proof of a CIA operation involving Lee Harvey Oswald,” he added, a*serting that it took place in the summer of 1963.

visit this link https://www.independent.c .. -b2239997.html

Kennedy was a*sassinated at the age of 46 on November 22, 1963, in Dallas. Soon after, Oswald, a former Marine and onetime defector to the Soviet Union, was arrested and charged with the k*llings of Kennedy and Dallas police officer J.D. Tippit.

Although Oswald denied k*lling Kennedy and claimed he was a “patsy,” he was never tried — Oswald was shot dead at the age of 24 on national television at the Dallas Police headquarters by nightclub owner Jack Ruby.

The federal government has long claimed Oswald acted alone and was not tied to the CIA, but Morley says he and attorneys with the Mary Ferrell Foundation have received documents, via a lawsuit, that suggest the agency used Oswald for intelligence purposes in a secret operation approved by top CIA brass in the months leading up to the JFK a*sassination, Newsweek reported.

visit this link https://www.newsweek.com/ .. oswald-1765105

“This is an extraordinarily serious claim, and it has profound implications for the official story,” Morley said. “The CIA knew far more about the lone gunman than then they are admitting even today. So this story deserves the closest possible scrutiny.”

When Oswald returned the to the United States after his defection to the Soviet Union, he reportedly advocated on behalf of Castro and his communist regime at a time when Kennedy sought to oust the dictator during the height of the Cold War. Still-secret documents in the file of now-dead CIA agent George Joannides, who is known to have infiltrated pro-Cuban groups, could provide proof of an operation designed to discredit U.S. supporters of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, Morley said, per the Independent.

Morley is the vice president of the Mary Ferrell Foundation, which in October sued Biden and the National Archives, accusing the government of failing to implement the 1992 JFK Records Act, even though tens of thousands of documents have already been released.

Last fall, Biden ordered a delay in the planned release of all remaining JFK files, but allowed for an interim release in December 2021, and set a December 15, 2022, deadline for full disclosure following a redactions process.

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visit this link https://www.archives.gov/ .. fk/release2021

visit this link https://www.washingtonpos .. ination-files/

visit this link https://www.whitehouse.go .. dent-john-f-k/
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 3 months ago '15        #88
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 The Dogefather said
Never heard that part
Yep I believe there were 3 dates they were trying to k*ll him, Chicago was the first which I believe JFK had a planned trip there like 2 weeks before Dallas and it got cancelled. If Dallas failed they had a 3rd attempt in Miami in a week or so. So if you read about how they do sh*t like this for patsies, apparently in Dallas there were a few LHO doplegangers around to increase his visibility, same thing was going on in Chicago. They had these dopplegangers out to make the single shooter theory out to be some lone nut. Let me see what I can find to link you.
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 3 months ago '15        #87
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 Ymmot said
I read through these transcripts of witnesses' accounts and none of them are solid alibis. They're people saying they saw him eating lunch at some point before the shooting, but not at the time of the shooting. And his supervisor testified he had access to the 6th floor.
he would have to sprint up there and get in position to shoot just minutes later, I believe the elevator wasn't working during the time as it was under maintenance so people woulda had to see him going up while going down. No witnesses have him on the 6th floor.

Paraffin tests again conclude he didn't fire a gun that day.

His "murder weapon" was far from being in condition to have pulled of the job. Originally the sniper rifle found was reported to be a Mauser. Later they changed the rifle to be one like his which was a Carcano. Mind you the person who found the gun also owned a sports store on the side and knew guns so to misidentify a gun like that woulda been a silly mistake.

Mind you there was like triangular fire on him, likely the roof of the school book depository, one likely on roof in hotel across the street, and I believe there was one on grassy knoll. This def guy Ed Hoffman witnessed the shooter on the grassy knoll but was ignored when he tried to tell the cops because they didn't understand him.






Another witness who saw people in the area too. I strongly recommend you look up how many witnesses died within like 3 years of this a*sassination, a lot of people dying in single car accidents. Lee Bowers is one, some people who refused to change stories were either k*lled or dismissed. Looking into the whole investigation it's beyond egregious how it was all handled, the investigation was a sham. Warren Commission did a sham investigation. Some time in the 70s there was a Senate committee that investigated the Kennedy a*sassination and concluded there was a conspiracy. Its likely if LHO wasn't k*lled by Jack Ruby, who also likely k*lled Tippits, LHO would've won his trial because the case against him was weak to say the least.

Another point to think about, Governor McConnel who was sitting in the front seat and also shot, where his leg shot, the angle would indicate the shots were coming from the roof of the TSBD and not the 6th floor. SIngle shooter theory is beyond silly when you investigate this who thing.
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 3 months ago '15        #86
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This is a book that references the doppelgangers and how LHO was framed. Witnesses had him like on the second floor or somewhere lower buying a coke from the vending machine just minutes before JFK was shot. The "snipers nest" was far from it.




This is who was sitting on the 6th floor shortly before the a*sassination. Eating his chicken sandwich drinking a Dr Pepper. They tried to get him to change his story or timeline so many times becuase its not consistent with LHO at 6th floor window, there is no snipers nest and its likely shots came from the roof, the grassy knoll and the hotel accross the street where former FBI snipers also happened to be for the weekend.
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 3 months ago '15        #85
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 Ymmot said
He was a military trained sharp shooter. How do you know he wasn't on the 6th floor?



He was witnessed by a co worker on the second floor when he shoulda been on the 6th floor.

Simplest solution, LHO was supposed to have shot JFK and taken off, went home to grab his pistol, shoot Officer Tippits and have all paraffin tests on his face and hands come up negative? Even had he went home and showered before he went to the movie theater and shot officer Tippits, no matter the order, it would be imnpossible for the paraffin tests to come up negative. He didn't even fire a gun that day.


Witnesses account of Tippits murder scene, shooter doesn't match LHO at all either.








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 3 months ago '19        #84
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 434ta3 said
That’s wild



Kennedy’s a*sassination has so many strange occurrences and intricacies. CIA, FBI, Texas businessmen, The Mafia, and more entities conspired to k*ll Kennedy. His a*sassination was an example for anybody that didn’t want to tow the line. Kennedy was a compulsive philanderer who was having extramarital affairs with celebrities and mafia “Goomahs”. He was having an affair with CIA Official Cord Meyer Jr’s wife Mary Pinchot who also murdered under suspicious circumstances. He also fired Allen Dulles (CIA Director) who was a catalyst in numerous covert operations (He was fired for the Bay of pigs fiasco). He allegedly was addicted to drugs and was being injected with methamphetamines and amphetamine by this quack doctor named Max Jacobson. Mary Pinchot had a close relationship with Timothy Leary who was a psychologist and author that experimented with psilocybin mushrooms and LSD. Richard Nixon called Leary “ The most dangerous man in America”. Nixon also HATED Kennedy. So Kennedy was a security risk somewhat, he’s having affairs with government officials wives and experimenting with illicit substances and hanging out with radical revolutionaries lol


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 3 months ago '17        #83
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Why didn't trump release those last 70 pages and why won't biden release them? And why was Bill Clinton cool with releasing them?
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 3 months ago '15        #82
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More on LHO being a Patsy:


Remember LHO was in custody for a couple days here are what "survived" of his transcripts:


This guy was in custody for like 48 hours and so many notes and transcripts from long interrogations were destroyed, when you look into it, none of it even makes sense, here you have the guy who possibly k*lled your president and you're not allowing tape recorders in to record interrogations and you're destroying notes?
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 3 months ago '16        #81
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 PineappleOG said
He could've been the one to produce the shooters who actually executed the job. He had reasons to.
Marcello was definitely involved………

oswald’s uncle worked was one of his guys…….

every major family outside of NY and Philly played some kind of role in the plot……
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 3 months ago '19        #80
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 Proffesor X said
This ain't news breh...........this was already divulged in JFK ..........The Mafia k*lled Kennedy and the US gov helped them.........
Not a bad movie
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 3 months ago '19        #79
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 GREAT1NE said
Any time people believe what our Government says 100%, just ask them if they believe our government had any involvement with the murder/cover up of JFK… and if the answers yes, then everything should be questioned, because it gets no higher then murdering a president. After that, nothings off the table
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 3 months ago '07        #78
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The two theories that always made the most sense to me was:

1. Oswald fired the non lethal shot into Kennedy’s neck from the building, while the team on the ground were firing the other shots. James Files actually fired the lethal explosive shot into Kennedy’s head from behind a fence that was facing Kennedy’s motorcade in the front. James Files has some interesting interviews from prison on this matter. I believe he’s still alive. They were a mixture of Mafia members and covert teams originally created by the CIA to perform a*sassinations in Cuba. The cop that Lee Harvey Oswald k*lled that day was in self defense because he was sent to silence him before he could make it to the precinct.

2. Lee Harvey Oswald fired the non lethal neck wound from the roof but the actual k*ll shot came from an accidental misfire of a secret service agent’s rifle directly behind Kennedy’s car. LBJ pressured the FBI to engage in a coverup of the secret service’s incompetence to avoid embarrassment on the world stage. He figured it was in the best interest of national security and the United State’s reputation if they pinned it on Oswald since he was already the presumed a*sassin, being as though he already shot JFK.


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 3 months ago '19        #77
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 434ta3 said
What does this mean
That’s JD Tippit, he was a Dallas Police officer who was a doppelgänger (Identical Twin) of John F Kennedy. He looked exactly like John F Kennedy and was murdered about 30 minutes after Kennedy was a*sassinated. I remember reading that they used JD Tippit’s corpse to solidify the entry and exit wounds to his head and neck.
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 3 months ago '09        #76
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said
fully detailed out how they did it


Jack Lawrence storm drain
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 3 months ago '08        #75
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I don’t know who k*lled him but I did a tour of Daley Plaza and the depository where’d it happened

Interesting bit of history to take in

No way there was one shooter though.
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 3 months ago '16        #74
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 6Fraud said








It was him … jack ruby was also sent by him…


He should’ve been had a movie but America ain’t gon let that man get his glory
ruby not only knew Marcello but he was also an old Outfit a*sociate too and it was the Outfit that got Kennedy elected in the first place…….
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 ItAlY2BkLyN said
fully detailed out how they did it


Watched this before and it's alot of truths mixed with alot of bullsh*t. As for the JFK part of it, I had never heard the storm drain theory before this. All I know is that Oswald didn't do that sh*t.
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 3 months ago '19        #72
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 PineappleOG said
Lee Harvey was a patsy, he did work with intelligence, that’s also how he knew he has been made the patsy. There was a lee Harvey Oswald type in Chicago and Miami in case Dallas failed
Never heard that part
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 wavysupreme said
That’s JD Tippit, he was a Dallas Police officer who was a doppelgänger (Identical Twin) of John F Kennedy. He looked exactly like John F Kennedy and was murdered about 30 minutes after Kennedy was a*sassinated. I remember reading that they used JD Tippit’s corpse to solidify the entry and exit wounds to his head and neck.
That’s wild
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 3 months ago '15        #70
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 Ymmot said
OP's article is saying Oswald did it, but he was part of a CIA operation 3 months before the a*sassination.
It wasn’t even physically possible, he wasn’t on the 6th floor nor was Kennedy even shot from there
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 3 months ago '17        #69
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 PineappleOG said
he would have to sprint up there and get in position to shoot just minutes later, I believe the elevator wasn't working during the time as it was under maintenance so people woulda had to see him going up while going down. No witnesses have him on the 6th floor.

Paraffin tests again conclude he didn't fire a gun that day.

His "murder weapon" was far from being in condition to have pulled of the job. Originally the sniper rifle found was reported to be a Mauser. Later they changed the rifle to be one like his which was a Carcano. Mind you the person who found the gun also owned a sports store on the side and knew guns so to misidentify a gun like that woulda been a silly mistake.

Mind you there was like triangular fire on him, likely the roof of the school book depository, one likely on roof in hotel across the street, and I believe there was one on grassy knoll. This def guy Ed Hoffman witnessed the shooter on the grassy knoll but was ignored when he tried to tell the cops because they didn't understand him.






Another witness who saw people in the area too. I strongly recommend you look up how many witnesses died within like 3 years of this a*sassination, a lot of people dying in single car accidents. Lee Bowers is one, some people who refused to change stories were either k*lled or dismissed. Looking into the whole investigation it's beyond egregious how it was all handled, the investigation was a sham. Warren Commission did a sham investigation. Some time in the 70s there was a Senate committee that investigated the Kennedy a*sassination and concluded there was a conspiracy. Its likely if LHO wasn't k*lled by Jack Ruby, who also likely k*lled Tippits, LHO would've won his trial because the case against him was weak to say the least.

Another point to think about, Governor McConnel who was sitting in the front seat and also shot, where his leg shot, the angle would indicate the shots were coming from the roof of the TSBD and not the 6th floor. SIngle shooter theory is beyond silly when you investigate this who thing.
The paraffin tests were definitely positive. There is report after report on it. That 22November1963 site seems to be a conspiracy site with a lot of false/misleading information and secondary accounts that have never been verified.

I've read a lot about this because conspiracy theories are extremely interesting to me. All evidence points to LHO being at least one of the shooters, if not the only shooter. It is possible he was acting on behalf of the Soviets or the CIA, I don't know, but all the evidence points to Oswald being capable of pulling off the a*sassination and actually doing it.


11/23/63 Dallas - Curry said ... paraffin tests, made to determine from powder residue whether Oswald had fired a gun, were positive. This
meant Oswald had fired a weapon within a short time before he was arrested. Apparently it could have been either a rifle or a
pistol - or both. They wouldn't say. AP, 1:50 pm CST Peggy Simpson




11/24/63 Dallas - But a Dallas detective, Charles Brown, said a paraffin test of Oswald's face and hands for gunpowder particles got "good results." The paraffin tests, he said, indicated Oswald recently had fired a rifle - the type of weapon used to k*ll the President.

The gunpowder on the face would come from cradling a rifle against the right cheek while the marksman took aim.

It was pointed out that Oswald was also accused of k*lling Dallas patrolman J. D. Tippitt with a pistol while allegedly trying to flee the a*sassination scene.

"Wouldn't this also leave gunpowder traces on the suspect's hands?" was one question.

But Dallas police indicated that their tests were able to distinguish between gunpowder from a pistol and rifle. San Francisco Examiner, p. 1 col. 8, Bob Considine, Hearst Headline Service




11/25/63 Dallas, Nov. 24 - A paraffin test, used to determine whether a person has fired a weapon recently, was administered to Oswald
shortly after he was apprehended Friday, one hour after the a*sassination. It showed that particles of gunpowder from a weapon, probably a rifle, remained on Oswald's cheek and hands. New York Times, Fred Powledge







There was definitely some shady circumstances around the a*sassination and it could be because it was such a big event or it could be because there was some darker forces at play. I can't really speculate it on it because I don't have insider information.
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