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What Killed/Hurt ______'s Career?


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 2 months ago '04        #136
MegaTON 
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Gorilla Zoe - dropped 28 mixtapes in 28 days... (no one heard any of em)
NY in general - tryin to sound like young n*ggas/south n*ggas/chicago n*ggas/uk n*ggas etc - also is their only like 3 producers out there who do beats for fat joe/jadakiss/french? all their beats sound the same for the last 10 years, heavily quantized but still offbeat type sh*t
Famous Dex - too much drugs soon as he was gaining momentum
Lil B - overplayed his gimmick
Roscoe Dash - too many ppl jacked his sound before he could even really blow with it - to the point n*gga didn't even know what separated him from them n*ggas who stole his sound
Troy Ave - no originality, n*ggas was really tryin to rep for him cuz hes from ny or whatever but it got old quick
dave east - constant mids
g herbo - heard 1 song u've heard em all
blocboy jb - no more drake features
lil xan - he's billie eilish now
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 2 months ago '15        #135
Hellmatic 
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No rich boy slander will be tolerated









Throw some ds still a classic. Idk if him and polow had a falling out or something but they were a good duo, they shoulda stuck together (maybe this was what happened. Label shelved him or something, cause he wasnt on zone 4 for his album which he dropped like 7 years later). I'm wondering what was the real issue tho for real, if he dropped an album the next year and kept being consistent he had potential for a classic.

This is one of the realest songs ever



Rich boy wasn't lyrical but he wasn't just a dumb southern rapper like some people wanna think. He could drop thought provoking sh*t if he wanted to


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 2 months ago '15        #134
6Fraud  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x41
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Rich boy is a hip hop travesty honestly should have been big.


A blind man can see its some behind the scenes sh*t
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 2 months ago '08        #133
ExNihilo 
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Don Trip & Starlito



Don Trip had a Cee Lo feature on his 1st major track and was with Interscope



Starlito was down with Cash Money/Young Buck, but had a buzz in Memphis



They had bars out the South and good connects, but it seems like they got black balled for some reason

Trip never dropped a project with Interscope and Lito never caught the buzz he should have. Lito had beef with Young Buck, but that's still small compared to his buzz. They broke Kevin Gates



Trip n Lito cold, this track is old


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 2 months ago '17        #132
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What k*lled/Hurt ______'s Career?
 

 
For this thread you can mention whomever and give your idea of why their career didn't go well.

For this post, I'm going to choose Rich Boy. Rich Boy was very talented IMO and could have been a voice of the 'New South', but I think besides the obvious of his main producer Supa Villain passing away, he was just TOO similar to T.I. and might have possibly been blackballed. You gotta remember, when 'Throw Some D's' was getting play on the airwaves, T.I. was blowing up the charts with tracks from his 'King' album which if I'm not mistaken, is his most successful album to date. I think style-wise they were just too similar, and since T.I. was already established, of course Rich Boy had to go. It would've been nice for him to have a longer run to see where he could have went in this game.
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 2 months ago '04        #131
MegaTON 
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basically if u got over 10 projects/mixtapes/albums out under ur name and none of em blow up just make a new name - did wonders for 2chainz

that lil wayne "im just gonna flood the block" sh*t doesn't work if no ones interested
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 2 months ago '05        #130
SeanP3688 
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Big KRIT -

Prolly has more talent that the rappers we currently put in the top 3.
Because he produces most of his own music, his sound got a little predictable.
Being from Mississippi. And mostly talking about country sh*t and making "country rap tunes" Ala UGK
Wrong era, as an artist and with his sound, probably fit better some where in the early to mid 2000's.
Def Jam tried to make his first album too commercial when he was coming off dropping a mixtape that was getting play like an album.
Wasn't able to get a huge hit-radio play song.

Still has his core fan base and we won't let him fall off. But damn feels like he should be up there with Cole and Kendricks.
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Top 10 most propped recently  2 months ago '22        #129
BreakkerSzn  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x9
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Rich Boy smoked both Wayne and Nas on Ghetto Rich Remix

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 2 months ago '19        #128
moonmandav 
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 Hellmatic said
No rich boy slander will be tolerated











Throw some ds still a classic. Idk if him and polow had a falling out or something but they were a good duo, they shoulda stuck together (maybe this was what happened. Label shelved him or something, cause he wasnt on zone 4 for his album which he dropped like 7 years later). I'm wondering what was the real issue tho for real, if he dropped an album the next year and kept being consistent he had potential for a classic.

This is one of the realest songs ever




Rich boy wasn't lyrical but he wasn't just a dumb southern rapper like some people wanna think. He could drop thought provoking sh*t if he wanted to


"Preachers in that pulpit,
teaching all that bullsh*t,
so how you know it's bullsh*t,
same n*ggas I went to school wit!!"

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 2 months ago '19        #127
FrivolousSports 
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Cam dissing jay who was the president of def jam k*lled juelz career







n*ggas is playing checkers with chess-playing Hov
This game is over, I don’t know if ya’ll know
You in the hole
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 2 months ago '18        #126
Steve Gee97  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 ExNihilo said
Don Trip & Starlito




Don Trip had a Cee Lo feature on his 1st major track and was with Interscope




Starlito was down with Cash Money/Young Buck, but had a buzz in Memphis




They had bars out the South and good connects, but it seems like they got black balled for some reason

Trip never dropped a project with Interscope and Lito never caught the buzz he should have. Lito had beef with Young Buck, but that's still small compared to his buzz. They broke Kevin Gates




Trip n Lito cold, this track is old




Lito is content with not being a star...


He's cool with that. Remember when he signed to Cash Money and had him write for Wayne and Baby.


I'd rather be independent than to be signed just to sit on the shelf.
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 2 months ago '18        #125
Steve Gee97  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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1.Young Buck- Burning bridges with 50 by dissing him after he was paying his taxes for him. Running to side with Ja Rule and Fat Joe wasn't a good idea either.

At least Game could hold his own. Buck just sank. 50 took that boy's manhood when he revealed him crying on the phone.




2. Juelz Santana- Poor work ethic and drug habit.

How u gonna let Wayne lapse you?



Juelz should have also stayed sober. Nowadays, he's looking like a fiend. Even Cam doesn't let drugs get in the way of making money.


3. Boosie-

He didn't capitalize off the first day out of prison. Dude waited until 2015 to put out a album at the most.


Plus Boosie may have turned people off with his interview about how Black folks are the worst race ever. I think Boosie's LGBT comments may have gotten him blacklisted as well.



At the end of the day, Boosie should have stayed working with Mouse On The Track. That was his sound.
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 2 months ago '18        #124
Steve Gee97  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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Plies releasing 2 albums in a year hurt him...

He should have took a break and released some mixtapes to hold the fans over. Funny how he did that with those On Trial tapes.

Da Realist was garbage compared to Definition Of Real too. It also didn't help that Plies got exposed by Jamie Foxx too.
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 2 months ago '18        #123
Steve Gee97  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 6Fraud said
Rich boy is a hip hop travesty honestly should have been big.


A blind man can see its some behind the scenes sh*t
Blame that on Polow Da Don...


Dude got bigheaded and burned some bridges.


Rich Boy's album and Gangsta Grillz tape used to be in rotation as a kid. Had a Andre 3000, Jim Jones, and Wayne verse too.
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 2 months ago '15        #122
ThatGuy247 
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 ExNihilo said
Don Trip & Starlito




Don Trip had a Cee Lo feature on his 1st major track and was with Interscope




Starlito was down with Cash Money/Young Buck, but had a buzz in Memphis




They had bars out the South and good connects, but it seems like they got black balled for some reason

Trip never dropped a project with Interscope and Lito never caught the buzz he should have. Lito had beef with Young Buck, but that's still small compared to his buzz. They broke Kevin Gates




Trip n Lito cold, this track is old


Lito and trip are still at it and cranking out heat…….
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 2 months ago '11        #121
BigLap704 
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 FrivolousSports said
Cam dissing jay who was the president of def jam k*lled juelz career




I was just randomly thinking about this earlier this week how funny it was for Cam to get Jimmie Walker to play HOV in his video. Had Jimmie step out the maybach with the John Cletas sandals


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 2 months ago '18        #120
Dnyce215  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x1
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What k*lled Ray Cash career? Cash on delivery was a dope album.
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 2 months ago '18        #119
Phamous  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x4
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What k*lled Mystikal career?

Rape…


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 2 months ago '18        #118
Steve Gee97  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x5
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 MegaTON said
Gorilla Zoe - dropped 28 mixtapes in 28 days... (no one heard any of em)
NY in general - tryin to sound like young n*ggas/south n*ggas/chicago n*ggas/uk n*ggas etc - also is their only like 3 producers out there who do beats for fat joe/jadakiss/french? all their beats sound the same for the last 10 years, heavily quantized but still offbeat type sh*t
Famous Dex - too much drugs soon as he was gaining momentum
Lil B - overplayed his gimmick
Roscoe Dash - too many ppl jacked his sound before he could even really blow with it - to the point n*gga didn't even know what separated him from them n*ggas who stole his sound
Troy Ave - no originality, n*ggas was really tryin to rep for him cuz hes from ny or whatever but it got old quick
dave east - constant mids
g herbo - heard 1 song u've heard em all
blocboy jb - no more drake features
lil xan - he's billie eilish now



I listened to all those Gorilla Zoe tapes...


A lot of filler in between those tapes.


Lex Luger gave him some dope beats though plus he worked with Sonny Digital before he blew up.
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 2 months ago '15        #117
Sleezymcman 
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Skippa da flippa sounding like the Migos then tryna run away wit the sauce before he had a hit record. Dude fell off somethin serious.
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 2 months ago '15        #116
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 FrivolousSports said
Cam dissing jay who was the president of def jam k*lled juelz career




Trip a full time single dad and took a break at the peak of his career to get family situation straight. Lito didnt want to play industry games, and sacrifice his craft for a bag. They have a cult following and can stay visible to core fan base to enabling them to consistently grind.
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 2 months ago '07        #115
killahkazi 
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 Oswaldgatesjr said
What k*lled ace hood career?


Ace jumped out in front of the world at 19 on our television screens with a fast wicked flow that was unique. He wasn't garbage but the thing that k*lled his career was he never had a initial fan base. When we first saw him is when everyone first saw him. It wasn't like he had wrk on mixtapes years b4. So the lack of a fanbase k*lled his album saies. The man released 4 major record label albums smh.
That and



Also dude didn't really have bars like that. He rapped fast and had these loud a*s beats and sh*t, but I can't think of one lyric from dude
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 2 months ago '04        #114
slapaho 
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 SeanP3688 said
Big KRIT -

Prolly has more talent that the rappers we currently put in the top 3.
Because he produces most of his own music, his sound got a little predictable.
Being from Mississippi. And mostly talking about country sh*t and making "country rap tunes" Ala UGK
Wrong era, as an artist and with his sound, probably fit better some where in the early to mid 2000's.
Def Jam tried to make his first album too commercial when he was coming off dropping a mixtape that was getting play like an album.
Wasn't able to get a huge hit-radio play song.

Still has his core fan base and we won't let him fall off. But damn feels like he should be up there with Cole and Kendricks.
once the music becomes self aware it turns “fans” off..

Same with k*ller mike dead prez and a lot of others it’s kinda sad how the outside consumers can even dictate what actual hip hop fans enjoy.. almost like it’s designed that way.


I think the wave of “mixtape” rappers hurt their career chasing label deals and not just starting and finishing independent. 10 years ago the idea of releasing your music yourself was still taboo all those really talented artist never got proper shine and it’s a damn shame too
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 2 months ago '04        #113
qutaboi225  topics gone triple plat - Number 1 spot x17
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 6Fraud said
Rich boy is a hip hop travesty honestly should have been big.


A blind man can see its some behind the scenes sh*t
Rich Boy fell off after his click got indicted. They was fu*king with a n*gga from BR that snitched on his whole click. Dude outta jail now.....but he got Rich Boy crew fu*ked up on some street sh*t and Rich Boy fell off after they got indicated.

Edit: Not sure if it was this indictment or the one before.




Last edited by qutaboi225; 08-06-2022 at 04:11 AM..
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 2 months ago '17        #112
sweetermanz 
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 Fameus said
If your a artist you're always just one hit away. Nothing k*lls your career but you. R. Kelly got off trial released ignition and I believe and all was forgiven MJ released some of his best music after his trials. Both these guys were on trial for underage sh*t if that doesn't k*ll a career what will.
That’s not true though.

R Kelly and MJ had some of the largest fanbases in the music industry. Comparing them with rappers with a few hits isn’t fair.

Once they came out of the mud they had their fan base plus the machine plus heavy records to back them
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