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 5 months ago '21        #262
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 EastBay Mufasa said
BLM (the organization) is very evil
With that being said YES Black Lives Matter but many people are being USED and going down a road of deception, and yes I believe black people should get resperations
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 5 months ago '21        #261
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 TreueBlutEhre said
Which God is the correct one to believe in or which religion out of the hundreds is the one that is true?
Jesus

Jesus is basically like a game developer who became apart of his game to show us how to live , but we k*lled him (humans )
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 5 months ago '21        #260
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 FrivolousSports said
Jesus didn't write the bible so how does Christianity make sense?

The bible was written by a bunch of people that claimed to know jesus

I was the same way breh but once you break down the backgrounds of the writers everything makes sense
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 5 months ago '21        #259
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 Owlsdoom said
First tell me what god is and Iíll tell you if I believe.



Hint: if you can put it into words, it isnít god and I donít believe.
Youíd have to read the Bible to fully understand or at least fully understand ona Christian level , thereís so many religions I could understand not wanting to check it out
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 5 months ago '21        #258
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 Cambury said
If you were born somewhere else you'd be telling me read the Quran.

I dont have to read the book for you to answer a simple question.

Did God make a rule so no other gods could create themselves or appear out of nowhere?
False gods arenít real , Jesus was real , even scholars talked about him , they just donít believe in the miracles



And maybe youíre right about the Quran but here we are
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 5 months ago '21        #257
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 AngelTaster said
And God doesnít? What does that say about your parents. They want to save you too but we ainít ďbelievingĒ in them as God
Jesus is god , theyíre both the same energy
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 5 months ago '21        #256
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 AngelTaster said
Real question...Why believe in Jesus and of God?
Jesus wants to save you
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 5 months ago '11        #255
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if you dont believe in god
Youíre not happy with your life and lost faith in a higher power
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 5 months ago '06        #254
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 Jonny2soxs said
I believe in Jesus

Once you break down Christianity it makes the most sense , all Jesus wants you to do is believe in him and follow the commandments


Not tryna convert anyone here or anything one time I bought on Bruce almighty and my ex thought I was tryna convert her
Lets bring it back to the basics of who God is in the Bible, let's truly break it down...


First commandment
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD” Deuteronomy 6:4

“Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.” Isaiah 44:8

I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isaiah 45:5

“Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me…” Isaiah 46:9


What did JESUS actually teach, and not Paul?

And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he (Jesus) had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Mark 12:28-29

“I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” John 5:30

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. John 14:28



36 “Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?” 37 He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” Matthew 22:36-40



I can go on and on and on... Go grab a red lettered bible and read what Jesus truly said and taught. Paul = Trinity, Jesus = Worship God alone, like EVERY other prophet before him. Jesus only came to the Lost sheep of Israel, Paul came to preach to the Gentiles. Jesus came to uphold the Laws of Moses, Paul came to abolish it. Even a little kid can see that everything he did and said went against Jesus. Paul also persecuted and massacred the true Followers of Jesus (Monotheists) before he had his his "dream" So the question is brother, do you follow Jesus or Paul? Jesus never claimed to be God, actually far from it. Please don't try and refute what I've said with the words of Paul.


@ why you ducking
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 5 months ago '21        #253
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 Hellmatic said
If God created us then who created god?
I read in the gnostics that God was created on a higher dimension by a higher dimension itself. According to them, there was a perfect dimension and a reflection of itself. They came together and created a perfect God, which they said is like "The Christ Essence".

Afterwards, the reflection of the dimension tried to create by itself (it masturbated? i dont know) and it created something imperfect. It was ashamed or something and hid the creation far away so it couldn't be seen by the perfect dimension and hit it away in the darkest corner.

When the creation came to be, it became aware and immediately created light. If you read the bible you probably know where i'm going with this. The gnostics refer to God as the creator and credit God to the creation of everything in this dimension.

The way I see it, for people who aren't sure of whether to believe or not, if God does exist do you really want to be on the losing team? All you have to do is believe and not be an evil a**hole. If people would rather be evil a**holes though, I can seed why they choose not to believe
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 5 months ago '06        #252
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 Micheal C. Will said
Simple

I just need actual proof from one of these gods.....people be worshipping, is that so hard to ask?

Like actually talking to that cat

I mean just tell ya'll god to hit me up, we still got free will right. So I'm going make my choice either way right?

Either to follow you or not


I can post you some real proof, but the question is are you sincere and honest about seeking the truth? Will you actually take heed and look into it yourself with a sincere and open mind, and put your preconceptions aside?

I have a gift/challenge for you and everyone who's sincere about seeking the truth about God. Pray to him and don't a*sociate any partners with him. Pray to the Creator, God alone and ask him to guide you and show you the truth. I promise you if you're sincere and honest he will truly guide you. This is a message to anyone who is sincere and truthful of finding the truth. There is only One God, He is the Eternal, the Absolute, he Begeth not, nor his he Begotten, and there is None like unto Him.
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 5 months ago '06        #251
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 Micheal C. Will said
Just joking huh?




So you went from having proof but just joking.

You corny bruh, either show proof or move along comedian.

First you tell me not to post now you want me to? Lol you're a funny guy, you def a troll. You resort to calling me corny and being disrespectful, when I've shown you nothing but respect and love? smh I hope you take heed though still, if not I hope someone who's sincere and honest for the truth does. I'm not here to sway your heart, that's not my job. That's between you and God, if you're sincere. Peace and blessings


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 5 months ago '21        #250
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 Cambury said
Based on that logic why should we believe there is only one God?

Did God create himself then make a universal law so no other God can create themselves?
You gotta read the Bible bro thatís the whole point of it , he tells us everything there
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 5 months ago '21        #249
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 milkdudz said
When you say middle eastern, what nationality are you referring to?
Iím just kidding breh

I believe in plain ol regular Jesus
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 5 months ago '04        #248
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 Mickey Bricks said
Bcuz science
You mean the thing subject to change it's theories tomorrow... Science is fleeting fam. Believe that.
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 5 months ago '16        #247
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Prime Creator/Source...

Universal Electric...

Universal Magnetic...

Demiurge...

Pistis Sophia/Gaia...

Elohim/Anunnaki...

Black Melanin...

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 5 months ago '21        #246
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 Loco Poe said
Lets bring it back to the basics of who God is in the Bible, let's truly break it down...


First commandment
ďHear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORDĒ Deuteronomy 6:4

ďFear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.Ē Isaiah 44:8

I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: Isaiah 45:5

ďRemember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like meÖĒ Isaiah 46:9


What did JESUS actually teach, and not Paul?

And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he (Jesus) had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Mark 12:28-29

ďI can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.Ē John 5:30

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. John 14:28



36 ďTeacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?Ē 37 He said to him, ďĎYou shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.í 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: ĎYou shall love your neighbor as yourself.í 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.Ē Matthew 22:36-40



I can go on and on and on... Go grab a red lettered bible and read what Jesus truly said and taught. Paul = Trinity, Jesus = Worship God alone, like EVERY other prophet before him. Jesus only came to the Lost sheep of Israel, Paul came to preach to the Gentiles. Jesus came to uphold the Laws of Moses, Paul came to abolish it. Even a little kid can see that everything he did and said went against Jesus. Paul also persecuted and massacred the true Followers of Jesus (Monotheists) before he had his his "dream" So the question is brother, do you follow Jesus or Paul? Jesus never claimed to be God, actually far from it. Please don't try and refute what I've said with the words of Paul.


@ why you ducking
Breh I could go on but it wonít change you
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 5 months ago '05        #245
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 Loco Poe said
First you tell me not to post now you want me to? Lol you're a funny guy, you def a troll. You resort to calling me corny and being disrespectful, when I've shown you nothing but respect and love? smh I hope you take heed though still, if not I hope someone who's sincere and honest for the truth does. I'm not here to sway your heart, that's not my job. That's between you and God, if you're sincere. Peace and blessings


I'm a troll?

But you posting YT videos when I asked in my very first post to ask your "god" to hit me up, so we can talk



Get the fu*k outta here n*gga with your videos and tell god to see a brother.

I've been waiting
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 5 months ago '19        #244
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 SimpinAintEz said
Good talk. Itís become painfully apparent that Iím not conversing with an adult.

Didnít honestly answer a single question asked and resorted to childish insults for no apparent reason. Your ignorance is going to be the death of you. Literally bro. Iím telling you smh
Nah. Blood lol bruh you can see in the media. If they goin so hard to make life backwards and pushing a satanic agenda with blasphemies literally throwing shots at God you dont think the muthafuka dont exist? Like it's common sense at this point. And you talkin to someone like I said .. I'm tellin you lol you'll believe in demons before god.. that's different bro you a different n*gga
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 5 months ago '19        #243
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 SimpinAintEz said
Thank you for continuing to prove my point. You’re not mature enough for this conversation. You communicate like a child.
Bruh.. Lol I'm not a old man so what you expect bro. Second, it's your life. Do what you want. All I'm saying is if you see the elites constantly doing sh*t like having n*ggas like Pooh Shiesty where the cactus jack logo on his hat which literally means rebelling against God and Cactus Jack the wrestler on top of Tom Hanks with the Cactus Jack logo on the ball in Cast Away then idk what to tell you like I can talk all day and provide a hundred examples and your f*g**t a*s is gonna find a way around it because you think you god my guy.. listen the point is, best believe when you die it's not gon be good for you if acting like this to a n*gga that's just tryna put you on and others about what's really real.. just know. Don't say I aint warn you choch a*s n*gga. Your name is simpinaintez I can never take you seriously as a man off that and how you responding to me. You talkin all this mature sh*t when I know you a bi*ch and you dont want a n*gga like me out of all people telling you what's up but it is what it is.. jesus wasnt nobody really and he knew sh*t and did sh*t all people with high status in that time didn't do or know .. Suck my beef f*gboy


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 5 months ago '05        #242
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Why can't these "god" dudes never give me a direct with their god?

Is Youtube their only direct line


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 5 months ago '19        #241
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 SimpinAintEz said
How so? Also, what is a demon and how did determine thatís what you saw?
You gotta think. Youre not in power right? So what gives you the right and energy to a*sume you know everything that's one? So if I dont give a answer you dont like doesn't make what I say less real. n*gga said what is a demon lol bruh I'm keeping it very simple. n*gga said how so.. lol Im pretty much saying what the bible says is real and that I know real facts that demons exist and they can materialize in the physical. Im saying I got some power ppl around me that do things so do the math my n*gga. I'm just saying it exists. You dont gotta believe it, that's up to you. I aint losin sleep. Just know I tried to tell yall n*ggas thats all Ima say
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 5 months ago '19        #240
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 SimpinAintEz said
Slow down. Youíre answering my question with more questions and a few presumptions. Youíre also coming off defensive and arrogant.

Nothing you stated answered how there necessarily must be a god if demons exist, nor did you tell me what a demon is or how you know. Youíre simply making a*sertions and claiming to know theyíre true.

Iíll play nice and actually answer you questions. You stated:

Youíre not in power right? So what gives you the right and energy to a*sume you know everything that's one?

First off, these questions are so vague that itís hard to grasp what youíre really asking. Iím not in power in relation to what? Also, when did I a*sert to have a ďright and energyĒ to know anything, let alone everything?

Lastly, how does any of this get us to there necessarily being a god (whatever that is to you)?
You are so fu*kin dumb lol This is what they want. They want n*ggas like you to not believe. That logic is gon be the death of you. Literally bro. I'm telling you smh
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 5 months ago '21        #239
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 SimpinAintEz said
I did not add this, I said IF that is the message youíre trying to convey, youíre using the wrong terms to do so. Youíve said you donít mean a creator that does so with purpose and intent. Whatís the opposite of that then?

Iím arguing precisely over what you presented, nothin more. You gave me a non-descript definition of a god, said you donít know what it is, claimed we have a relationship with it, and that you think this is the case because we didnít create ourselves.

If you donít understand the importance of the proper usage of words, then youíre going to have trouble conveying your message. Thatís no fault of mine. I tried to help you understand the err of your ways but you dismissed it as a distraction.

Explain to me how the word create does not imply intent or purpose. Maybe that will help clear things up and open a path forward.

Also, I think you misinterpreted my stance. I never a*serted that we should stop bothering with trying to figure out the answers to questions we donít yet have. I absolutely think we should continue to research and follow the evidence to the conclusion.

What I disagreed with was holding a belief thatís not based upon evidence and certainly not based upon such obvious logical fallacies. You can hold beliefs for good reasons or bad reasons. You just so happen to have bad reasons for yours that are debatable.

Lastly, I appreciate you not going the route of your cohorts and resorting to childish name calling and threats.
Thatís the main issue. Iím not tryna argue. Arguments have winners and losers. Iím tryna have a discussion. Everybody wins in a discussion through the mutual exchange of ideas and thereís no need to declare a winner and loser of each point in order to progress in a discussion. The way your current attempt at arguing is requiring.

The type of convo you tryna have is best held in person as we passing novels back and forth and getting stuck in the minutia of one word.

There are no err of my ways to understand lol. I use words just fine.

The points I made are beliefs based on information that Iíve been exposed to. It is not knowledge that is grounded in evidence. Anyone claiming to have that on a topic regarding God is making a huge and likely false claim.

For that reason any description I give you of God will be non-descript.

My points were attempts at showing a tiny thread of how I arrived at those beliefs. Not proof of their accuracy. The conversation we having cannot be proven with what is currently available to humanity. So the side of thereís no evidence for that will always win the argument. Which is why at every turn I avoided an argument, granted you were right, and sought a discussion in the hopes you might tell me something I donít know. Which we never really got to.

Your opinion of the quality reasons for the belief are irrelevant. And further, the reasons for the belief do not diminish or impact the veracity of the belief. If anything, they may impact ones comfort and confidence in keeping them.

But beliefs grounded in concrete evidence are more a kin to knowledge. And im not claiming capital k Knowledge. (Tangent: Iím interested in the power of human belief. Like the placebo effect. Evidence of the power of belief)

It sounds wild but donít be a slave to evidence. You limiting yourself. There is a ceiling on all that logic and intellect despite how immensely useful they are. Intuition and belief though, Iím not even sure the skys the limit on those.

The create question is not as interesting to me to continue going back and forth. We could just as easily exchange it for the ďcatalystĒ or what ďcaused the thing to come into existenceĒ and my point as it relates to that notion would still function similarly.

Despite my correct use of words, the words are only as useful as the ideas they convey to the recipient so Iím not married to any specific phrasing just the idea. Which is that which brings a thing into existence is in relation to, is related to, that thing which is brought into existence.

Arguing over the word instead of discussing the idea is a semantics argument and Iím good on that. I respect the step by step and philosophical logical approach but I donít think this the right medium especially when we are discussing a thing that cannot be proven. I engaged bc I thought it was to clarify confusion but thatís clearly not your aim.

The exercise for me was one in trying to further flesh out something we donít know much and likely canít know much about. And to remove anything that would result in better understanding.

Saying we donít have proof applies to a lot things and therefore did not serve either end.

But we gotta call it bro. Ima get carpal tunnel going back and forth w you man. I already feel hella wild typing a dissertation on here.

Iíll end with my suggestion that you point the logical process and intellect inward bc thatís where the research and ďevidenceĒ about God is gon come from if anywhere. And demanding that it looks like the evidence that exists outward will forever keep you from it. 🙏🏾
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 5 months ago '19        #238
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 SimpinAintEz said
Nah, after that last childish outburst for nothing, weíre done here fam. I can see what type of time youíre on.
You different. You the type of n*gga that a n*gga will tell you yo there's some sh*t behind you bout to snap your neck off and you the type to be like n*gga you lyin, im not turning around.. like I said keep thinking sh*t sweet bi*ch a*s n*gga real sh*t
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