Tom Brady or Peyton Manning??? Who you got??

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Who would you pick for YOUR franchise/team???
Tom Brady 82 51.25%
Peyton Manning 78 48.75%
Voters: 160. Sorry, you cannot vote on this poll (Boxden members only)

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 11 years ago '06        #141
Kjizzle03 38 heat pts38
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First off they both showin they a.ss,.......... but would this question even be asked if it wasn't for Vinatieri. Everyone always talkin bout how Brady got this many rings and Peyton only got one, but it aint like Brady was out there puttin up all kind of points like he is this season.




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 11 years ago '04        #142
dre03 
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 keithbm1111 said:
pats D blew it last year in the AFC Champ. game. they just gave up.
They always blow it in the playoffs

They will have one good game and suck the rest of the way
 11 years ago '04        #143
dre03 
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 Kjizzle03 said:
First off they both showin they a.ss,.......... but would this question even be asked if it wasn't for Vinatieri. Everyone always talkin bout how Brady got this many rings and Peyton only got one, but it aint like Brady was out there puttin up all kind of points like he is this season.
Thats what you all do not get... You dont have to put up crazy numbers to win superbowls...

If ur team is built to do that then yeah you will... Only one team has won that way and that was the Rams

Peyton won a SB when he toned it down and played a Tom Brady like style... Managing the game not trying to score on every play... it wears defenses out and keeps ur defense fresh...

Most of the great QB's won not putting up great numbers just methodically defeating and wearing down there opponents... Thats what the Pats do thats what Indy did last year thats what the Steelers did year before that...

Thats the winning formula numbers majority of the time dont win championships and Peyton Manning firgured that out...
 10-24-2007, 02:41 PM         #144
icedout921  OP
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^yup...

Controlling the ball>scoring on quick plays..

Interesting to see what this Pat team does in the postseason.
 11 years ago '06        #145
Kjizzle03 38 heat pts38
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 dre03 said:
Thats what you all do not get... You dont have to put up crazy numbers to win superbowls...

If ur team is built to do that then yeah you will... Only one team has won that way and that was the Rams

Peyton won a SB when he toned it down and played a Tom Brady like style... Managing the game not trying to score on every play... it wears defenses out and keeps ur defense fresh...

Most of the great QB's won not putting up great numbers just methodically defeating and wearing down there opponents... Thats what the Pats do thats what Indy did last year thats what the Steelers did year before that...

Thats the winning formula numbers majority of the time dont win championships and Peyton Manning firgured that out...

I wasn't talkin bout winning superbowls or numbers. I was just thinkin about the QB position. I think that Peyton has more all around football knowledge, but Brady is not far behind him.




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 11 years ago '06        #146
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Manning 10 seasons 286 TD's
Brady 8 seasons 174 TD's


If the question is who do I start my Franchise with then that sh*t is easy.
Manning over Brady all day. Brady just having a hell of a season this year.


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 10-24-2007, 03:23 PM         #147
icedout921  OP
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 lexball50 said:
Manning 10 seasons 286 TD's
Brady 8 seasons 174 TD's


If the question is who do I start my Franchise with then that sh*t is easy.
Manning over Brady all day. Brady just having a hell of a season this year.
i guess u skipped the whole thread and just posted that.
 11 years ago '07        #148
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97
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 Kjizzle03 said:
First off they both showin they a.ss,.......... but would this question even be asked if it wasn't for Vinatieri. Everyone always talkin bout how Brady got this many rings and Peyton only got one, but it aint like Brady was out there puttin up all kind of points like he is this season.

if it wasnt for vinateri who knows if the colts would have won last year. do you remember the colts scored 15 points against the ravens. what if the drunk idiot kicker was still there. he sh*ts the bed in the clutch. so vinateri misses some of those FG's baltimore could have turned that into points for them. so if your gonna say he won it for the pats, which he helped do, you have to say he won it for the colts.
and your boy manning was 15/30 for 170 yards and 2 INTs
 11 years ago '04        #149
Plizaya J 1 heat pts
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 icedout921 said:
and Manning had a very bad playoff run..

Its not just o 1 ring so hes better. Brady has put up good numbers not Manning numbers but really good qb numbers on a team without any other legit offensive threats. And he flat out wins games. 3 rings? How many other qbs have done that?

YOur whole argument is weak.
Manning had a very bad playoff run why? Because defense gets u through the playoffs, which he didnt get till recently. O and what happened the last 3 meetings when Peyton had this better D? He won. Defense wins championships. They are both the best in the league Brady is more cool under pressure, but Manning is smarter thats y he gets my vote. Also, putting up #s without any offensive threats isn't as hard as u think when u have his line. That muthafu*ka can take a nap he has soo much time back there. Colts line is sick too though.
 10-24-2007, 03:35 PM         #150
Tunyce  OP
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brady...he my fantasy QB right now ahah
 11 years ago '04        #151
dre03 
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 Kjizzle03 said:
I wasn't talkin bout winning superbowls or numbers. I was just thinkin about the QB position. I think that Peyton has more all around football knowledge, but Brady is not far behind him.
 Kjizzle03 said:
First off they both showin they a.ss,.......... but would this question even be asked if it wasn't for Vinatieri. Everyone always talkin bout how Brady got this many rings and Peyton only got one, but it aint like Brady was out there puttin up all kind of points like he is this season.
U clearly said and i quote "it aint like Brady was out there puttin up all kind of points like he is this season"

Where anywhere in that post did u even hint u were talkin about football knowledge? And how were u not talking about stats with that statement i quoted?

Not attacking you just asking a question cuz im confused homie..
 11 years ago '07        #152
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97
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dude a kicker should make kicks. we're sorry you had vanderjagt who missed kicks. sorry vinateri made them. but he kicked 48 yd FGs. how the fu*k did they get in that position?? BRADY LED THE TEAM ON A DRIVE. then vinateri kciked it in like any professional kicker should
 11 years ago '04        #153
Plizaya J 1 heat pts
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 dre03 said:
U clearly said and i quote "it aint like Brady was out there puttin up all kind of points like he is this season"

Where anywhere in that post did u even hint u were talkin about football knowledge? And how were u not talking about stats with that statement i quoted?

Not attacking you just asking a question cuz im confused homie..
i can throw it up in double coverage to Moss too and he will catch it, and when he gets the attention its even easier to hit the others
 11 years ago '04        #154
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 Plizaya J said:
Manning had a very bad playoff run why? Because defense gets u through the playoffs, which he didnt get till recently. O and what happened the last 3 meetings when Peyton had this better D? He won. Defense wins championships. They are both the best in the league Brady is more cool under pressure, but Manning is smarter thats y he gets my vote. Also, putting up #s without any offensive threats isn't as hard as u think when u have his line. That muthafu*ka can take a nap he has soo much time back there. Colts line is sick too though.
Peyton Manning has a way better line than Brady... Brady has been sacked 14 more times than Peyton in 3 less years...

Peyton averages 17 sacks a year

Brady averages 27 sacks a year

So it aint the line... The only reason anybody is even talking about his line is because this year u cant blitz him and have to run a 3 and 4 man rush only because u have to double team his receivers... ESPN has been talkin bout his line this year now i see nothing but his o-line this and dat on here now... Never saw that sh*t until this year
 11 years ago '07        #155
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97
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so its not easy to throw to harrison or wayne or clark or stokely?? or even edge? yea...
 11 years ago '05        #156
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i think that ihis will ruffle some feathers even with colt fans, but its not manning choking in the playoffs its harrison out of 14 playoff games he only has 2 touchdowns out of 14 games reggie and clark have at least 5 a piece
another thing is the fact that manning makes the running game better. who is kenton keith? just think for one second had colts taken maroney he would be the better back in most eyes. the manning factor is obvious, harrison is not as good as his # would make you think. before manning average reciever the next year hof numbers please give manning his props. harrison went from 700 yards a seaqson to 1500 yards during mannings rookie season
 11 years ago '07        #157
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97
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harrison only has 2 TDs because his QB cant get the ball to him. thank you for clearing all this up meaty.
 11 years ago '05        #158
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another thing take vinatieri from the pats = no championships
all those years the colts lost because of gimme field goals missed/harrison choking btw more than half of mannings ints come from ty law strog arming marvin i know for a fact 6 in two games
 11 years ago '07        #159
keithbm1111 97 heat pts97
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^^ o god read thru the thread a little more we already discussed the kicker situation
 11 years ago '05        #160
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 keithbm1111 said:
harrison only has 2 TDs because his QB cant get the ball to him. thank you for clearing all this up meaty.
well why is he such a beast during the regular season everybody else gets their #s you wouldnt say that about any other hof reciever he chokes during the playoffs not manning
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