Oct 19 - KRS-One ""Jay-Z is the GREATEST LYRICIST of All time"

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 10-19-2007, 09:30 AM         #61
currybai  OP
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jay z is a great lyricist but GOAT? come on now lol. I can name at least 20 people who is lyrically better, dont mean they got better subject matter or a better rapper, but in terms of being lyrical, they are better.
 10-19-2007, 09:31 AM         #62
Calvo  OP
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how come no ones mentioned ghostface? he's iller than all these n*ggas
 11 years ago '05        #63
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jay-z and KRS-One can hold deez.
 10-19-2007, 10:31 AM         #64
AlexG1989  OP
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i dont think jay z is the greatest ever....he's pretty good but................Big Pun, Eminem, Nas, r like light years ahead of jay z lyrically
 10-19-2007, 10:32 AM         #65
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 Face3Stacks said:
sombody is gettin E motional over the internet
yeah coming from a guy who started this whole sh*t and gave me hate.

awww did i touch a nerve? were you that pist off i exposed your mom as as.lut that you had to give me boxden hate?
 10-19-2007, 10:35 AM         #66
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 OOps said:
we all know its 2pac, B.i.g>>>>>>>>>> everybody else can take a walk, especially jigga man.
I'm riding w/ you and adding can't give props to a biter.
 11 years ago '04        #67
DJ Maximum|M 51 heat pts51
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Thank U Ive Been Saying For Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 11 years ago '07        #68
lil man 
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man to tell you the truth theres to much of them jay-z , big , nas , Eminem , krs , common , mos def and pac
 10-19-2007, 10:53 AM         #69
CenterField  OP
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why isn't Jay on the boxden banner? Take pac and kanye off


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 10-19-2007, 11:00 AM         #70
CenterField  OP
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 CalcuoCuchicheo said:
Canibus is ill as fu*k when it comes to saying nothing in verse after verse.
:applause: Canibus=Fiction
 10-19-2007, 11:14 AM         #71
SozaSpecial  OP
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Jay the best overall...n*ggaz can fu*k with him on certain categories but he prolly top 5 in every one
 11 years ago '07        #72
Bullseye 60 heat pts60
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KRS ONE co signs, that a big co-sign.... Chuck D said the same thing in 4korners Magazine, no
longer in publication, that Jay the best due to fact to his extensive diction that allow him to master the English language with ease.
Mastered the English language??

Not to brag, but throughout most of my life I've been considered "ahead" of all my peers in my English classes in almost every grade growing up. My mother started me early with reading and audio books before I even entered pre-school.

I can personally say that Jay-Z is NOT even close to the word "master" when it comes to the English language. Rappers that I can say for sure that have heard make excellent usage of the English language and really understand it are:

Rakim, Nas, Canibus and Mos Def
. I'm sure there are more, but those come to mind immediately. Jay-Z does not. He is clever at times with word usage and wordplay. I'll give him that, but he does not possess the vocabulary, understanding, nor incite, to spit rhymes on the level of any of the four that I mentioned.

KRS-ONE is scaring me these days with his statements. Not sure what he's going through, but I hope he gets better.


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 11 years ago '04        #73
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 trmfinest said:
Name one rapper who been in the game for so long and so good as Jay??

Listin in the beginning to "What more can i say"

"aint a n*gga this good for this long"

Muthfu*ka be hatin on Jay but name one rapper who been that good for so long!!?
Stop hatin and give the man the respect he deserves like them legend are givin Jay!!
the only reason why jay is lasing long cause pac and biggie is dead.
 10-19-2007, 12:08 PM         #74
Face3Stacks  OP
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 micwrecka said:
yeah coming from a guy who started this whole sh*t and gave me hate.

awww did i touch a nerve? were you that pist off i exposed your mom as as.lut that you had to give me boxden hate?
expose my mom:rolleyes: how's that if she's dead
 11 years ago '05        #75
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Top 5 Lyricists:

1. Nas

2. Andre 3000

3. Common

4. Scarface

5. Ice Cube


Jay is in my top 5 mcs of all time but as far as lyricists he is no where near the top 5. This is because he has never said anything thought provoking or stood up for anything besides himself. He has great wordplay, but it takes substance to be great lyrically thats why u dont see people like Biggie, Canibus, or Big Pun on my list because I never felt like they represented anything but entertainment. Think about it, have u ever heard Jay talk about something thats effects us all instead of just the hustlers and millionares or have u ever learned anything about life listening to him?


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 11 years ago '04        #76
Djkommish6 
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greatest rap artist TRUE!!!! yes, but greatest lyricist? What about B.I.G., Big L, Big Pun, NAS, I mean COME one, Mos Def, Talib, I can name a hundred artists Lyrically BEtter, but I guess sales, poularity, and mainstream mass appeal account which makes him the best rap artist, I mean why do you get into rap!?
 11 years ago '04        #77
bigtrevdogg 
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i think kris was just being a little sarcastic.
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bigtrevdogg 
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 AK1 said:
How can you be the best lyricist ever when you are a BITER!?!?

Close thread.
yeah, it is funny how jay tries to switch up a few words in lines he take from other people. he gets away with that because the lil youngins who don't know slick rick, rakim , kane rhymes swear it is all jay..........lol.........but he is still one of my favorites.............but i haven't been feelin his new sh*t too much


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 11 years ago '06        #79
G2MC 35 heat pts35
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I guess Alzheimer finally caught up to these "old schoolers".

They must've forgotten about cats like Big L, Big Pun, Rakim, Canibus, etc.

Hell even LL is more lyrical than Jay z.
 11 years ago '06        #80
Hit Em' Up 61 heat pts61
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 CalcuoCuchicheo said:
"This" is not "exactly" what you were "talkin about in another post", yada, yada.

Why not? Well, I'd wager I'm smarter than you & know more than you - not just about rap, but about most things. Don't feel bad though, you're in the same position as the vast, vast majority of BX. Taking this into account though, you cannot attempt to pigeon-hole me.

Furthermore, I'm smarter than Canibus, so I'm not impressed by him rapping gibberish with a thesaurus to hand.

Don't "drop canibus for the sake of it" - if you're not dropping him for his lack of substance, then don't drop him at all. Bear that mark of idiocy with pride.

Pun could rhyme very well. Never really said much, but could rhyme. Funny how you whine about guns or w/e, whilst at the same time bigging up Pun who rapped about...the appropriate economic model for Puerto Rico?
Basing your judgment of my knowledge on nothing and other people who have nothing to do with me and determining you smarter because of that... yeah, your a real smart guy ....

And who gives a dam who ure smarter then...no one cares...shyt i wasnt even talkin to you in the first place hoe. Were talking bout lyricists not your dumass and how he clearly had a much larger vocabulary that people like u cant decipher and uses it to his advantage.

Completely ignored my last statement and carried on with your beleif that he means nothing so i wont even comment on that. And idiot i said canibus was sick without even basing 90% of his lyrics about gun talk, not every rapper. Learn to read. Even without swearing tho pun wud still smash jay z in any given way once again due to his larger vocabulary.

the fu*k outa here wit that c*cky attitude n at this homo thinking hes smarter then anyone else...


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