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Oct 9 - Lupe Responds to Fiascogate
 

 
EXCLUSIVE: Unlocking Fiascogate
By: Linda Hobbs
POSTED: 17:50 EST, October 9, 2007

After screwing up his rhymes during a tribute to A Tribe Called Quest on VH-1's Hip Hop Honors awards show on Sunday, rap star Lupe Fiasco has quickly become a blogger's whipping boy in a drama now referred to as "Fiascogate," with new allegations from Q-Tip that Fiasco was never asked by him to perform at the VH-1 ceremony at all.

The 25-year-old rapper claimed Q-Tip personally asked him to perform "Electric Relaxation," off 1993's Midnight Marauders, an album critics and rap heads alike have called Tribe's best effort. But Lupe, an artist with a predilection for positivity, shot himself in the foot when he flubbed the lyrics to Phife's verse.

The screw-up fell in line in the great tradition of award show lyrical bloopers, like Kid Rock's flub during a cameo performance of Jay-Z's "99 Problems" at the 2004 BET Awards, and Nas butchering a Tupac song during his tribute performance to the slain rapper at 2005's Hip Hop Honors. But unlike these fumbles, Lupe's mistake resulted in blog crucifixion - Fiascogate.

zThe day after the show, Eskay of tzhe popular hip hop blog Nahright left the rapper a dizsappozzinted rebuke: "Lupe, I fu*ks with you my dude, but you were wrong here," he wrote a day after the event. "I think you should take a close look at howz this whole situation played out and what went wrongz and use it as a learning experience. To me, it's unacceptable that any professional rapper could have never heard Midnight Marauders. Partizcularly one whose work is so Tribe-esque."

zIronically, Lupe has previously been open about his lack of interest in Trzibe, aznd he claimezd he's never heard zMidnight Marauders. and hizs lack of interest in Tribe were a part of the late '80s / early '90s collective Native Tongues Posse, which brought righteous, and at times, uncanny and whimsical hip-hop to the mainstream.

Lupe wasted no time addressing the mishap on the popular nouveau soul hip-hop site, Okayplayer. Under the screen name FNF Up Up And Away, he begrudgingly wrote in all caps, "When it was initially offered to me, I turned it down because I felt it was out of place for me to be honoring them because while I was fully aware of their impact in hip-hop, I wasn't really aware of their music like that . . . but guess who wanted me to be apart of it . . . hmmmm . . . how about . . . Q-Tip!!! . . ."

But according to Q-Tip, that wasn't the case. On the gossip blog of Miss Info, Q-Tip was reported as saying, "I'm not trying to make this any bigger than it is. But I just want to clear up one thing. . . We never hunted him down and begged him to be a part of the show or anything like that. His name was pitched to us by VH1, and we said, ok cool. The only time I spoke to Lupe about the Hip Hop Honors performance was on a conference call, which we did with the other artists too, like Busta and Common, to plan the performance."

The legendary rapper and DJ added: "When VH1 brought his name up, based on what he had said about us before, I thought it was ironic and it kind of humored me. All that stuff he said about never listening to a Tribe album before and having no interest in doing so, it doesn't make sense to me."

In the past, Roots drummer Questlove has criticized Lupe for never having heard Marauders. Most recently, Phonte of the group Little Brother gleefully added fuel to the fire. "You fu*kin up, my nig. Straight up and down," Phonte posted on an Okayplayer message board. "What's even more amazing is the same cats on this site defending your arrogance and ignorance on this topic are the same ones who would be ready to FLIP if the statements you made about MM were said by a Webbie, Plies, or Soulja Boy. . .you forgetting the lyrics to a classic song from a classic group on national television while paying tribute to them, the 2nd plane has officially hit the tower."

Lupe aired out his grievances exclusively to VIBE concerning the backlash to the revelation that he missed out on Marauders. "[Tribe] didn't sell 10 million records, so why would people think they had a blanket on the world like that? MC Hammer was way more popular to me than Tribe Called Quest."

To Lupe, it's all about hip hop elitism. "Because there's kids in Harlem who right now who would never ever listen to Midnight Marauders, I don't give a fu*k what you do, they'll never listen to Q-Tip and they want to be rappers and they want to talk about positive things. So why would you shoot them down?"

His voice rises. "It's like, 'Oh, you ain't never listened to Midnight Marauders? You ain't expanding your horizons? Oh, you ain't real' cause they did that sh*t to me! 'Oh Lupe, that's fu*ked up man, I don't fu*k with you now! I'm not buying your next album' and be dead serious! It made me feel like, 'You dirty bastards! Like how dare you hypocritical . . ."

Overall, the rapper appears to be more hurt than furious from the blog butchering. And he claims he'll still "never" listen to Midnight Marauders, though he's criticized for denying the fact that groups like Tribe opened doors for the lyrically-PG, happy-go-lucky form of rap he's known for. But no matter how you look at it, Lupe's refusal to throw on some headphones and pop in the album isn't about Midnight Marauders, or lack of interest at all: it's about defiance.

And his power comes from being unapologetic to critics. "Those hip hop elitists who think [Tribe] hold the crown and the copyright to hip hop," he says. "I listen to 8Ball & MJG and I think they're better than you [Tribe].


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173 comments for "Oct 9 - Lupe Responds to Fiascogate"

 10-09-2007, 06:32 PM         #2
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"[Tribe] didn't sell 10 million records, so why would people think they had a blanket on the world like that? MC Hammer was way more popular to me than Tribe Called Quest."

....for some reason thats true. but he still fu*ked up...
 10 years ago '07        #3
ttime236 38 heat pts38
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this article is too damn boring
 10 years ago '07        #4
MOTTAFOOKAH 4 heat pts
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@ this same thread poppin up every 2 minutes...BTW The Cool drops December 18...go and cop
 10 years ago '04        #5
DJ Maximum|M 47 heat pts47
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As A Lupe Fan

I See Where He Comes From

The n*gga Was Being Honest He Didnt Fake It If The n*gga Didnt Never Hear The Album Then So Be It n*ggaz Is So Caught Up Into Oh If U Never Heard The Album Dont Rap Thats Some Bullsh*t Right There Ive Heard The Album It Was Dope Should I Think He Should Listen To That Classic Album Yes But Shouldnt Get Chastised About The Situation Lupe Is Hip Hop Had The Best Innovative Album In 06 So Im Saying fu*k A Blogger
 10 years ago '04        #6
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Yeah, Lupe is completely wrong for this one. How can you hate on Tribe? I still listen to them weekly myself. As for Lupe's album.....not so much anymore.
 10 years ago '05        #7
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word! Im wit lupe!
Ihad that tribe album and never really listened to it. I mean, it was ahite, and yes, it is still tribes best album, but I sure traded it to this white boy I knew that had an advanced copy of Makavelli. I bumped every song on Makavelli for years. The only tribe song I ever bumped was scenario, and I would fast forward to Busta's verse.
 10-09-2007, 07:08 PM         #8
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I dont know ONE hip-hop head that aint heard midnite mauraders.. sayin u never heard Midnite Mauraders like sayin u never heard Illmatic in the world of hip hop..
 10 years ago '04        #9
young shiz 3 heat pts
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Thats my nig but he's dead wrong. Its one thing if you just don't fu*ks with ATCQ. Thats crazy, but to each his own. You can't turn around and do a tribute to them on national tv though! Thats makes no fu*kin sense. If you don't feel their stuff and don't know it, why perform it. Then to say you still won't listen to them on some stuborn sh*t is pretty immature for a grown a.ss man. He's a dope rapper but it says alot about his character. I'm still gonna support but i'm a little jaded by that move.
 10 years ago '05        #10
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If he don't want to listen to Tribe, thats on him. He's the only one missing out.

BUT...

don't go and get money off of a half a.ssed performance of a group you don't even know about. To be all about morals and sh*t, it sure seemed like he sold out on this one.

Yeah, he's being defiant, but for what? Lets be real, if someone on boxden refused to listen to Little Brother, they would be called an idiot and fan of that fake rap going around nowadays. You can call it personal choice or whatever but I think its stupid to not even try something out. If someone listens to an artist and doesn't like it, thats different but thats not what we're talking about here.
 10 years ago '07        #11
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im with lupe on this.....theres just some stuff people dont listen too even if it made a huge impact on hip-hop.....sh*t i never listened to Krs-one so wtf.....but then again maybe Lupe should of declined like yo i never listened to atcq ...
 10 years ago '04        #12
Mike T 136 heat pts136
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Yall n*ggas k!llin me yall swear because you rap you gotta listen to every fu*kin album that come out
"When it was initially offered to me, I turned it down because I felt it was out of place for me to be honoring them because while I was fully aware of their impact in hip-hop, I wasn't really aware of their music like that
Lupe himself didnt want to do but Tip asked him so fu*k the haters
 10 years ago '07        #13
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^^^tip said he didnt ask Lupe to do it Vh1 just presented the idea
 10 years ago '05        #14
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"Those hip hop elitists who think [Tribe] hold the crown and the copyright to hip hop," he says. "I listen to 8Ball & MJG and I think they're better than you [Tribe].

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 10-09-2007, 07:35 PM         #15
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Lupe is like 1 of 5 hot mc's out.I think we're punishing him enough right now. lets not k!ll his career. thats y hip hop is dead. we the reason it died.
 10-09-2007, 07:40 PM         #16
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MM >>> anything to do with Lupe
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MM is one of the best rap albums and this guy does a dedication to Tribe without hearing/ or even listening to the song. wtf is wrong with this guy,, im ashamed for chicago
 10-09-2007, 07:58 PM         #18
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 IRemainRaw said:
MM >>> anything to do with Lupe
^^^ Props
 10-09-2007, 07:59 PM         #19
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im not mad that he didnt ever hear it, im mad that he didnt ever hear it yet tried to do a tribue concert for them and then claimed that tip wanted him there when tip has said otherwise
 10 years ago '06        #20
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I'm sticking to my man Lupe (no homo) but Lupe needs to learn to say no
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