HOW CAN rappers diss WHITE PEOPLE but they copy ITalians?They hated blacks.

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 10 years ago '04        #21
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italians>>>>>

 10-08-2007, 07:51 AM         #22
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MY FATHER IS ITALIAN AND MY MOMS IS BLACK..GO FIGGA THAT..That sh*t is tru tho my mom tells me some of the sh*t she wen thru wen her and my pops got together from his side of the fam..they from the same hood too..but its tru they dont b likin no black ppl.i dont even kno half my italian family prolly cuz my a.ss is black! ahaha i dont give a fu*k tho my n*ggas always showed me luv
 10-08-2007, 10:10 AM         #23
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 4REAL said:
First of all, have you ever thought why most italians hate blacks? Italians themselves are not even real whites. Italians have plenty of black/African blood in them. Don't forget that it was blacks from North Africa that conquered Italy, stayed there and had mixed children with the original Sicilians/Southern Italians who were originally blue eyed and blonde haired people. In fact, Italians were even called derogatory names like "spic" from real whites. And yes, "spic" were a derogatory name for Italians before Latinos.

The truth of the matter is that when Italians see blacks, they see some of themselves. So Italians really hate themselves and try to downplay their African heritage. All the organized crime stuff began in North Africa with the blacks in power and leaked into North Italy, which later was passed down and molded into the Mafia. This is why 2Pac took the name Makaveli. 2Pac believed that many of the Italian names, lifestyles, and themes may have been copied from blacks and downplayed in history.

Look at the wrestler, Macho Man Randy Savage. Macho Man is an Italian, but look at Macho Man's thickness when it comes to his hair, his skin, and his overall skin color.
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 10 years ago '04        #24
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 OVAPROOF said:
MY FATHER IS ITALIAN AND MY MOMS IS BLACK..GO FIGGA THAT..That sh*t is tru tho my mom tells me some of the sh*t she wen thru wen her and my pops got together from his side of the fam..they from the same hood too..but its tru they dont b likin no black ppl.i dont even kno half my italian family prolly cuz my a.ss is black! ahaha i dont give a fu*k tho my n*ggas always showed me luv


see this is what k!lls me, it seems to me like ur sayin the black side of ur fam is "ya n*ggas" but the other side is "italian family"....u r blatantly calling just blacks n*ggas...y u r saying u black, u not, u mixed, have some fu*kin pride, it sux that half ya fam is ignorant, but u bein just as bad by denyin ya roots...


my uncle married an italian women who had 3 kids, all girls now they like 30, 27, & 25(they been together all my life) i've asked them why people say "im not white im italian" they fu*kin laughed & had no idea what kinda idiot says that...to me they seem racist wit their use of "n*gga" they do talk to some blacks & chill wit some but for the most part they dont...anyway what im sayin is they do NOT consider themselves anything other then white


im french german & a lil irish(its funny tho white people think im italian, blacks think im rican), they tell me "if we're not white, cuz we're italian, ur not white cuz ur french german & irish"...its actually quite simple


i think some italians think their more "in" wit the hip-hop crowd if they say they not white...fu*k that u r what u r, we all people....

italian is a nationality its not a race, ur a fu*kin idiot if u confuse the 2, i dont care about how they were fu*ked by blacks hundreds of years ago or whatever, blacks were fu*ked by white slaveowners too does that make blacks white now???fu*k no


why do mixed people always disregard the part of they family that is not black...they be like "im black" no...ur not, ur mixed be proud of ya sh*t no matter how fu*ked up some people think that part of u is


just ventin
 10-08-2007, 12:34 PM         #25
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 casper said:
see this is what k!lls me, it seems to me like ur sayin the black side of ur fam is "ya n*ggas" but the other side is "italian family"....u r blatantly calling just blacks n*ggas...y u r saying u black, u not, u mixed, have some fu*kin pride, it sux that half ya fam is ignorant, but u bein just as bad by denyin ya roots...


my uncle married an italian women who had 3 kids, all girls now they like 30, 27, & 25(they been together all my life) i've asked them why people say "im not white im italian" they fu*kin laughed & had no idea what kinda idiot says that...to me they seem racist wit their use of "n*gga" they do talk to some blacks & chill wit some but for the most part they dont...anyway what im sayin is they do NOT consider themselves anything other then white


im french german & a lil irish(its funny tho white people think im italian, blacks think im rican), they tell me "if we're not white, cuz we're italian, ur not white cuz ur french german & irish"...its actually quite simple


i think some italians think their more "in" wit the hip-hop crowd if they say they not white...fu*k that u r what u r, we all people....

italian is a nationality its not a race, ur a fu*kin idiot if u confuse the 2, i dont care about how they were fu*ked by blacks hundreds of years ago or whatever, blacks were fu*ked by white slaveowners too does that make blacks white now???fu*k no


why do mixed people always disregard the part of they family that is not black...they be like "im black" no...ur not, ur mixed be proud of ya sh*t no matter how fu*ked up some people think that part of u is


just ventin
cosign that i never understood that either.
 10-08-2007, 12:55 PM         #26
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wonder the same thing
 10 years ago '05        #27
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northern italians = white
southern italians = almost white

end that argument
 10 years ago '07        #28
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 4REAL said:
First of all, have you ever thought why most italians hate blacks? Italians themselves are not even real whites. Italians have plenty of black/African blood in them. Don't forget that it was blacks from North Africa that conquered Italy, stayed there and had mixed children with the original Sicilians/Southern Italians who were originally blue eyed and blonde haired people. In fact, Italians were even called derogatory names like "spic" from real whites. And yes, "spic" were a derogatory name for Italians before Latinos.

The truth of the matter is that when Italians see blacks, they see some of themselves. So Italians really hate themselves and try to downplay their African heritage. All the organized crime stuff began in North Africa with the blacks in power and leaked into North Italy, which later was passed down and molded into the Mafia. This is why 2Pac took the name Makaveli. 2Pac believed that many of the Italian names, lifestyles, and themes may have been copied from blacks and downplayed in history.

Look at the wrestler, Macho Man Randy Savage. Macho Man is an Italian, but look at Macho Man's thickness when it comes to his hair, his skin, and his overall skin color.
EXACTLY!!!!! I see alot of people passed over this post because theres no way that they can debate this. Props yo. Alot of mufu*kas don't even know this. Hannibal from North Africa (Carthage to be exact) invaded the sh*t out of Italy and took it over for a while. The carthagenians got with the sicilian women and had mixed kids. Thats why so many sicilians are darker then people from other parts of Italy.

How in the fu*k can italians hate us blacks when just 80 or so years ago them and the irish were treated like str8 up sh*t by other whites!!! Italians were the original spics!!!! Damn do some fu*kin research. So all that "they hate us" sh*t is for the birds. They hate apart of themselves then.

I will say that I think it's corny for rap n*ggas to be on that whole mobb sh*t, but look @ the 1950s and '60s. The same italians that were using the N word all wild were listening to our music!! sh*t just watch Bronx Tale and you'll see that they were bumping our sh*t just like they do today.


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 10-08-2007, 02:10 PM         #29
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Like someone said though the whole mafia thing is over and most rappers don't even know Italians so they were just glorifying a culture that was popular in movies and put it into music it was idiotic but it is good they have moved from it.

and all this talk about Italians being black reminds of this movie called true romance.

when this happened:
Worley brings up Sicilians background. Worley is allegedly quoting history (but in reality an urban legend) on the claim of Sicilian people having Black people's ancestry through the Moors (who themselves were not Sub-Saharan/"black"), or, as Hopper puts it in the movie: "Sicilians were spawned by zzzzzzs." This speech is the precursor to Worley's death.
Worley is Dennis hopper and the Sicilian is Christopher walken it was a great scene it might be true or not but i don't think Italians want people to think they were spawned by black people so black people shouldnt a.ssociate ourselves with there culture when they wouldn't probably never admit that there ancestors were African and italian.
 10-08-2007, 03:23 PM         #30
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 getGwap said:
Arent Italians "italian" and not "white caucasion"



and the thing wit Nyc rappers mimicing italians was a fad like snap music that sh*ts done only mob deep and Nas was on it at one time

And blacks are and will always be the most copied race on earth and not all rappers diss whie people
i dont know about that dog, ive seen a lot of n*ggas lately dressing like white ppl, tight clothes, skate clothes ect.... i think the table had turned
 10-08-2007, 03:32 PM         #31
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Blacks in harlem wanna be white.Dressing with the punk rock sh*t.

and Italians don't like us,but i really don't give a fu*k
 10-08-2007, 03:34 PM         #32
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 specialk103185 said:
^^ i agree completely...You don't have to go back to far in time for Italians, but if you go back far enough in history, everything is traced back to Africa/Blacks...Greeks, Europeans, Spaniards--all of them k!lled, r*ped and stole from Africa to get where they are today. How else do you explain why the Richest Continent in the world is coincidently the Poorest continent in the world. Other races hate blacks so much because black folks remind them that they were once savages that did horrible things to get where they are today. It makes much more sense to call us zzzzzzs and dismiss us.

As for the Mafia thing and the rappers, it's sad really...I think most rappers cling to it tho because of the idea of family and looking out for one another; a rise to power. In the movies that's what the mobb represents. A lot of blacks don't have that sense of family anymore since our ancestors were stolen from Africa and stripped from their families and sold to different parts of the world...imagine that.


dogg how long was that sh*t ago??? italian is italian, they dont like blacc ppl, get over it, and even if all that sh*t u r saying is realy true, do they look black today, NO. and dont give me that bs about how their hair is or how their skin color is and all that bs, ive seen fu*kin whites, mexican, asians wit black ppl hair , and its natural to and they aint even got n e blacc in them, they look full white, full mexican, full asian whatever, all that sh*t doesnt mean anything..real talk
 10 years ago '06        #33
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rappers made millions off of dat mafia sh*t so copy tha fu*k out of it if u ask me, as long as tha money keep comin, o yea, i fu*ked this fine a.ss italian chick last summer in miami, pus*y was wet as fu*k (im black)
 10-08-2007, 03:42 PM         #34
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If irv gotti sat down with john gotti ,what would the conversation be like?
 10 years ago '06        #35
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Damn, its some valid arguments in this thread. I'm actually at a lost for words.....and thats a first!!
 10-08-2007, 04:19 PM         #36
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 Street Bully said:
i dont know about that dog, ive seen a lot of n*ggas lately dressing like white ppl, tight clothes, skate clothes ect.... i think the table had turned
stop generalizing you act as if you've seen millions when it probably was 20 tops.
 10-08-2007, 05:35 PM         #37
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A lot of this sh*t is true. Im white, and Italian and my fam got PISSED when I brought a black chick home. My grandma, who is OLD school Sicilian, sh*t she even met Al Capone as a lil girl, her uncle "worked" with him in the business. She was LIVID. My mom likes black people as far as being friends with them goes, but she thinks you should "marry your own race".

As far as I go, race doesn't meet a thing. I find myself attracted to Italian chicks the most, and want to marry an Italian to keep the heritage alive in my children, but I have dated black girls and would marry one if I met one I fell in love with. So all italians don't hate blacks, thats really ignorant.

And to ask why blacks look up to mafia people when they don't like them can be compared to why a lot of whites try so hard to be black, when a lot of them don't like whites. I think every race has a lil crush on something in another race, whether they like them or not.

But we started that sh*t.. at anyone saying black people started MOB sh*t.
 10-08-2007, 05:52 PM         #38
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I hate these type of threads but what I like about them is they bring out the closet racists on this site

well they do say everybody is a little racist
 10 years ago '07        #39
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 Street Bully said:
i dont know about that dog, ive seen a lot of n*ggas lately dressing like white ppl, tight clothes, skate clothes ect.... i think the table had turned
Jamiacans been on that tight clothes sh*t

wearing clothes that Fit isnt a white person thing it's a some people dont wear baggy clothes thing

european blacks and blacks in other countries wear clothes that fit i.e Jaimaicas

ANd as much as you cats say Italian cats dont like black people they love black women Robert dinero, etc etc

and some young italian males embrace black culture and black music mainly the ignorant italians dont like black people because they see some of us in them


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 10 years ago '07        #40
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Word this Italian chic I be beatin from Miami told me that her mom and her mother's side don't like black people(her whole fam is from Bensonhurst in Brooklyn. Ole racist a.ss area.) I told her fu*k them I don't give a fu*k just bend ya a.ss over and give me money you good credit havin bi*ch. I didn't say that give me money part even though she does lol.
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