2pac Vs Rakim Whos THEE Greatest???

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Whos THEE Greatest???
2pac 50 63.29%
Rakim 29 36.71%
Voters: 79. Sorry, you cannot vote on this poll (Boxden members only)

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 09-29-2007, 11:33 AM         #81
whoogoesthere  OP
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2pac iz tha best....and yall confuse people that think they know about rap....itz about FEELING.....that it fu*k facez...
 10 years ago '04        #82
tommymm96 2 heat pts
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 KrayLay said:
People get shocked when they see pac so low becuase everyone has him top 5. I've heard all those songs. Dear momma annd keep ya head up are so cliche....
they weren't when he wrote them....he made songs like that cliche

listen to confessions and krazy, those are two of my favorites that are slept on hard
 09-29-2007, 11:35 AM         #83
KrayLay  OP
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 whoogoesthere said:
2pac iz tha best....and yall confuse people that think they know about rap....itz about FEELING.....that it fu*k facez...
yeah... fu*k SKILLS. it all feeling nd being a true thug!
 09-29-2007, 11:36 AM         #84
AlexG1989  OP
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"The GOAT is based on opinion, but most people who say pac is are usually biased. Ever notice when people say he's the best, they never mention that he was a great lyricist, or had an amazing flow, with nice delievery. They make up irrelevant bullsh*t like him being a true thug, who influenced rappers and touched fans...."

i think u juss like to go against the grain to feel special but wuteva dude.....

2pac did have an amazing flow....with nice delivery....he didnt have to b a great lyricist as long as he reached the masses....and thats what he did.... big l was a great lyricist but nobody even knows about him...big pun was one of the greatest lyricist i ever heard but he's hardly talked about...rakim is rarely talked about.....why??? because they NEVER made the impact tupac made.... Rakim probably did influence a sh*t load of rappers we like today ok...2pac, nas, biggie were influenced by rakim but they took that...and took it to a whole other lever....
 09-29-2007, 11:37 AM         #85
KrayLay  OP
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 tommymm96 said:
they weren't when he wrote them....he made songs like that cliche

listen to confessions and krazy, those are two of my favorites that are slept on hard
majority of his songs like that are similar.
 10 years ago '04        #86
BrBHZ 8 heat pts
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Rakim....your favorite MC's Favorite MC.....even pac was a fan. I like em both but i gotta go with Rakim


my 2 cents


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 09-29-2007, 11:39 AM         #87
KrayLay  OP
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 AlexG1989 said:
"The GOAT is based on opinion, but most people who say pac is are usually biased. Ever notice when people say he's the best, they never mention that he was a great lyricist, or had an amazing flow, with nice delievery. They make up irrelevant bullsh*t like him being a true thug, who influenced rappers and touched fans...."

i think u juss like to go against the grain to feel special but wuteva dude.....

2pac did have an amazing flow....with nice delivery....he didnt have to b a great lyricist as long as he reached the masses....and thats what he did.... big l was a great lyricist but nobody even knows about him...big pun was one of the greatest lyricist i ever heard but he's hardly talked about...rakim is rarely talked about.....why??? because they NEVER made the impact tupac made.... Rakim probably did influence a sh*t load of rappers we like today ok...2pac, nas, biggie were influenced by rakim but they took that...and took it to a whole other lever....
Ok they were popular. That's your point right? So fu*king what, that has nothing to do with his skills. You keep on bringin up the same sh*t.... 2 pac didn't have an amazing flow or delievery or lyrics for that matter.
 09-29-2007, 11:41 AM         #88
Bone Diddles  OP
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 KrayLay said:
Ok they were popular. That's your point right? So fu*king what, that has nothing to do with his skills. You keep on bringin up the same sh*t.... 2 pac didn't have an amazing flow or delievery or lyrics for that matter.
its seriously starting to sound like your just hating just to hate
how about this, do this 4 me.......
name one bad 2pac verse
 09-29-2007, 11:49 AM         #89
KrayLay  OP
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 Bone Diddles said:
its seriously starting to sound like your just hating just to hate
how about this, do this 4 me.......
name one bad 2pac verse
[2Pac]
I met you through my homie now you act like you don't know me
So disappointed cause baby that sh*t was so phony
It's not for me, you see no lovin from my closest homies
Woulda paid you no mind, but baby you was all up on me
While you proceed with precision, you had the table hosed
No, I ain't mad at you baby, go 'head and play them fools
They chose not to listen, so now he stuck inside his house
and can't leave without his bi*ch permission
The mission's to be a playa, my alias is Boss
Drop a top on these jealous n*ggaz, playa let me floss
Y'all don't wanna see me in pain
I'll leave that a.ss like Toni Braxton, "Never breathing again"
It's scandalous, I never liked your back stabbin a.ss, triiick
Used to watch you money grabbin, who you baggin beeyitch?
Ready to bust, in the city you don't know who to trust
But bi*ches lookin scandalous


its not that he had bad verses, just a sh*tload of average ones.
 09-29-2007, 11:52 AM         #90
AlexG1989  OP
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u ever heard Young n*ggaz by tupac??? that song has lyricism and its deep
the same with Lord Knows.... their both off the Me Against The World album...


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 09-29-2007, 11:53 AM         #91
Bone Diddles  OP
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 KrayLay said:
[2Pac]
I met you through my homie now you act like you don't know me
So disappointed cause baby that sh*t was so phony
It's not for me, you see no lovin from my closest homies
Woulda paid you no mind, but baby you was all up on me
While you proceed with precision, you had the table hosed
No, I ain't mad at you baby, go 'head and play them fools
They chose not to listen, so now he stuck inside his house
and can't leave without his bi*ch permission
The mission's to be a playa, my alias is Boss
Drop a top on these jealous n*ggaz, playa let me floss
Y'all don't wanna see me in pain
I'll leave that a.ss like Toni Braxton, "Never breathing again"
It's scandalous, I never liked your back stabbin a.ss, triiick
Used to watch you money grabbin, who you baggin beeyitch?
Ready to bust, in the city you don't know who to trust
But bi*ches lookin scandalous


its not that he had bad verses, just a sh*tload of average ones.
that is a club song

i hate when u ask n*ggas to name a bad verse and they go and get a verse from a club song, thats a bail out.....how many club songs have u heard n*ggas spit some fire sh*t on?

other that that.....whats wrong with that verse????
 09-29-2007, 11:55 AM         #92
Birdmane  OP
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 Domic462 said:
You do know Nas bite from Pac right, plus Pac has touched more people then any rapper who has ever touched a mic, being the greatest is more then lyricaly ablity but if you want to go their. Nas could wow you in 4 bars Pac could do it in two.
you do know pac heard i gave you power and bite it to make me and my girlfriend right.

pac touched people because of his works inside and outside the booth nas touched people by his work only inside the booth so its not a fair comparison.

also yeah pac could wow you in 4 bars but nas made me say wow in 6 words.

sleep is the cousin of death.
 09-29-2007, 11:55 AM         #93
AlexG1989  OP
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i hate when u ask n*ggas to name a bad verse and they go and get a verse from a club song, thats a bail out.....how many club songs have u heard n*ggas spit some fire sh*t on? Big Pun on still not a player....i was surprised at how crazy dat verse was for a club song

but still not many try to put fire a.ss verses in a club song so that didnt count
 09-29-2007, 11:56 AM         #94
KrayLay  OP
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 Bone Diddles said:
that is a club song

i hate when u ask n*ggas to name a bad verse and they go and get a verse from a club song, thats a bail out.....how many club songs have u heard n*ggas spit some fire sh*t on?

other that that.....whats wrong with that verse????
lol. nothing clever, it's just nothing....
 09-29-2007, 11:56 AM         #95
AlexG1989  OP
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also yeah pac could wow you in 4 bars but nas made me say wow in 6 words.

sleep is the cousin of death. how often though???
 09-29-2007, 11:58 AM         #96
Bone Diddles  OP
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 AlexG1989 said:
Big Pun on still not a player....i was surprised at how crazy dat verse was for a club song

but still not many try to put fire a.ss verses in a club song so that didnt count
exactly, im not saying it doesnt happen, its just easy to get a average verse from a club song, because those songs are made for what?? THE CLUBS.....no one pays attentions to lyrics while they dancin w/girls
 09-29-2007, 11:59 AM         #97
Bone Diddles  OP
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 KrayLay said:
lol. nothing clever, it's just nothing....
so u gonna go get a verse from a non-club song or u gonna use "Skandalouz" as your defense why 2pac aint the goat?
 09-29-2007, 12:01 PM         #98
AlexG1989  OP
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you do know pac heard i gave you power and bite it to make me and my girlfriend right.

u do know Nas heard Bredas got a baby and Part time mutha and bit it to make Black Girl Lost...but does it matter??? no cuz they were all great songs
 09-29-2007, 12:02 PM         #99
Birdmane  OP
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 AlexG1989 said:
also yeah pac could wow you in 4 bars but nas made me say wow in 6 words.

sleep is the cousin of death. how often though???
every 6 words of illmatic had me saying .
 09-29-2007, 12:02 PM         #100
KrayLay  OP
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 Bone Diddles said:
so u gonna go get a verse from a non-club song or u gonna use "Skandalouz" as your defense why 2pac aint the goat?
That's not my defense in the first place. YOU asked me to find a bad verse. And if i did go diggin for a bad verse and found one, it wouldn't mean he's bad. put up a mind blowing verse by pac.
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