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 09-11-2007, 11:49 PM         #81
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Rodney Harrisson.....
 11 years ago '07        #82
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... @ espn is trying to make cheating not look that bad by desensitizing it by bring up past cheaters......nice try
 11 years ago '05        #83
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 SmooveDude said:
lol dude aint even try to act like he was tapin the game
Exactly what I was thinking. Dude is standing like 10 feet from 'em, not even tryin to hide that sh*t
 09-11-2007, 11:59 PM         #84
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@ how obvious it is....
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....wonder how long they been doing it...but Bill should wear this under his hoodie when it gets cold...and that goes for anyone else that condones cheating...wtf would you play for if you knew the other team has an advantage



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 09-12-2007, 12:22 AM         #86
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....wonder how long they been doing it...but Bill should wear this under his hoodie when it gets cold...and that goes for anyone else that condones cheating...wtf would you play for if you knew the other team has an advantage



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 11 years ago '06        #87
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 mountain19 said:
"Last year in a December 13th article, the Palm Beach Post, a Florida newspaper, quoted two Dolphins players bragging about how the Dolphins stole the Patriots' pass protection signals by getting tapes of Tom Brady's audibles. The NFL did nothing. Yet, when the Patriots get accused of stealing signals, suddenly it's the crime of the century, and people who said nothing about the Dolphins are calling for all kinds of draconian punishments.
Eric Mangini was on Bill Belichek's coaching staff for years. He was with Belichek in Cleveland. He was defensive coordinator of the Patriots. If the Patriots have been stealing signals all along, how would Mangini not know about it? And if Mangini did know about it, does anyone think the guy isn't smart enough to disguise the signals? Would he really go four consecutive games making signals that he knows are being stolen?"
This is just a case of Mangini being a fu*king pus*y and going and telling the commish about it... Mangini probably tried to do the same thing back to the Patriots but he's not smart enough. He's a sore loser and is tired of getting slapped around by the Patriots... now this bi*ch Goodell is gonna try to be a hardass against hte Patriots when he didn't do anytihng to the Dolphins last year. You can say all the bullsh*t about how there's no evidence Miami did it but obvoiusly everyone knew they did it. Commish is a joke


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 09-12-2007, 06:44 AM         #88
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Eric Mangini exposes Bill Belichick's spy games

BY RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER

Wednesday, September 12th 2007, 4:00 AM


As if the handshake hubbub wasn't enough, now the Jets and Patriots must deal with SpyGate.

As if the handshake hubbub wasn't enough, now the Jets and Patriots must deal with SpyGate.
Mangini apparently knew about the video tactics from his days as a Pats a.ssistant, but Sunday was the first time Jets security caught New England with its hand in the cookie jar.

Mangini apparently knew about the video tactics from his days as a Pats a.ssistant, but Sunday was the first time Jets security caught New England with its hand in the cookie jar.
Spying on the Jets?


Armed with counter-intelligence from Eric Mangini, the Jets apparently have succeeded in busting the Patriots' spy ring.

A former a.ssistant under Bill Belichick, Mangini arrived in New York last year with an insider's knowledge of the Patriots' sign-stealing surveillance tactics and he shared the dirty little secret with members of the Jets' organization, a person with knowledge of the matter informed the Daily News yesterday.

It wasn't until the fifth Mangini-Belichick showdown - last Sunday - that the Jets were able to catch the Patriots. Tipped off by Jets security, an NFL security official confiscated a video camera and tape from a Patriots employee at the Meadowlands, and the evidence is believed to be damning.

Commissioner Roger Goodell hasn't made a final decision, according to a high-level source, but he wants to resolve the issue ASAP. A league spokesman refuted an ESPN report last night that said Goodell already has determined that the Patriots violated league rules.

An announcement could be made by the end of the week. The Patriots, who will have a chance to present their side to Goodell by Friday, could be stripped of multiple draft choices and/or fined heavily.

Matt Estrella, 26, a Patriots video a.ssistant, was nabbed just before halftime of the Jets' 38-14 loss on opening day. He allegedly videotaped hand signals from the Jets' defensive coaches on the sideline, defying an edict from Goodell, who warned teams before the season that he wouldn't tolerate cheating. Several teams have suspected the Patriots of stealing signs. So did the Jets, thanks to Mangini.

"(The Jets) knew they did it," the person with knowledge of the situation said in an e-mail to the Daily News. "They caught the guy a year ago, but couldn't do anything about it. When Eric came, he said that's what they used to do. Bill is going to be (ticked) at Eric. He kissed and told."

Mangini, hired last year by the Jets, coached under Belichick from 2000 to 2005 in New England. Their once-close relationship has frayed, and this latest chapter in the Border War has raised the hostility to all-time levels.

New details came to light yesterday. The cameraman, wearing a team polo shirt under the league-mandated sideline photographer's vest, was stopped by security as he tried to enter the New England locker room before halftime, sources said. An animated discussion ensued, involving league security, Jets security and Patriots security.

The dispute, which occurred in the bowels of the stadium, lasted more than an hour, virtually the entire second half. At one point, it became so heated that New Jersey state troopers were summoned as a precaution, a source said. The Jets apparently were trying to confiscate the videotape, which wound up in the possession of NFL security. The tape was placed in a box, sealed and forwarded to the league.

"He looked scared to death," one source said of Estrella.

It's unclear if the Patriots had a chance to review the tape before it was seized, raising the question of whether it helped them in the game. They certainly played like they knew the Jets' strategy. In the second half, Tom Brady completed 10 of 11 passes for 138 yards and a touchdown.

"He seemed like he knew what we were doing," safety Kerry Rhodes said.

No video recording devices of any kind are permitted on the field, in the locker room or in the coaches' booth during a game, according to league rules.

Patriots owner Robert Kraft said yesterday it would be inappropriate to comment directly on the accusations, but he hinted that the Jets' actions may have stemmed from being envious of his team's success.

"When you're successful in anything, a lot of people like to try to take you down and do different things," he told reporters at a charity appearance. "We understand that."

The Jets have declined comment, saying it's a league matter.

Belichick, addressing the situation for the first time late Monday on his Boston radio show, acknowledged he was aware of the incident at the game. Beyond that, he provided little insight, saying, "It's a league thing. Whatever the deal is, which I don't even know the details of, a lot of it, we'll comply."

This isn't the first time the Jets and Patriots have accused each other of wrongdoing. A year ago, the Patriots filed tampering charges against the Jets, claiming they conducted improper discussions with Deion Branch when the wide receiver was given permission to seek a trade. After an intensive, four-month investigation, the Jets were exonerated.

Patriots bashing apparently has become popular. Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson, who questioned Belichick's integrity after a playoff loss last January, said Monday he wasn't surprised by Spy Gate.

"I think the Patriots actually live by the saying, 'If you're not cheating, you're not trying,'" he told reporters in San Diego.

The Chargers and Patriots meet this Sunday.

PATRIOT GAMES



According to a former coach, this is likely how and why the Patriots stole the Jets defensive signals:

The person with the camera, in this case, Patriots video a.ssistant Matt Estrella, would tape the coach's hand signals as he sends the defense in. Then the camera person would verbally call out down and distance so the recorder's microphone would pick it up. Then when the tape is analyzed, the hand signals are matched up to down and distance and defensive scheme.

"They would have it all chronicled such as: 4-3 even defense, cover 2, hand to the belt, index finger up," the coach said. "Now if you had a sharp guy in the huddle who was in for every play, you would teach him the signals and he would look over to the sidelines and steal the signals and tell the quarterback."

I wanted to high light this part

New details came to light yesterday. The cameraman, wearing a team polo shirt under the league-mandated sideline photographer's vest
So the picture of the guy pointing the camera in some random direction wasn't even the guy taping. wtf was he watching then?


Also anyone hear Ronde and Tiki talk about it last night. They pretty much said everyone does it and everyone knows it.
 09-12-2007, 06:46 AM         #89
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lol at Ronde and Tiki saying every1 does it. They should have put 20 hidden Cameras on other opponents sidelines with how many losses theyve took.
 11 years ago '05        #90
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I've been saying this sh*t. Everyone in the league does this sh*t. It is right? No. But all the Rams, Eagles & Panther fans need to shut the fu*k up. Get over it. You lost. Take shots at the crown, we will still be on top. LT is fu*king stupid. His defense wouldn't have been as good without a cheater named Merriman.
 11 years ago '05        #91
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 Santoro said:
I've been saying this sh*t. Everyone in the league does this sh*t. It is right? No. But all the Rams, Eagles & Panther fans need to shut the fu*k up. Get over it. You lost. Take shots at the crown, we will still be on top. LT is fu*king stupid. His defense wouldn't have been as good without a cheater named Merriman.
I need to shut up? Why do I need to shut up, the Pats are fu*king cheaters. They may have cost a superbowl. I knew it was to good that the Pats could not stop the offense like that. Even Eric Mangini said it was going on when he was there and that was around 2000. So don't even bring that bullsh*t in man.


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 11 years ago '05        #92
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Prove it. 2 NFL Veterans have been quoted as saying every team does it. Should I believe some douche on the internet, or 2 players. Hmmm.
 09-12-2007, 07:53 AM         #93
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They can cheat all they want to, buuuut, the Colts still own them, LoL!!!!!
 11 years ago '04        #94
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National Fixed League.
 11 years ago '07        #95
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sh*t comes on in a couple minutes.. should be very interesting.
 09-12-2007, 08:44 AM         #96
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Expect nothing at all. I guess the league hasn't even talked to the team do don't expect him to say anything.
 11 years ago '04        #97
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i think its stupid to take away draft picks...but i do think the league should make them forfeit the game against the Jets, due to cheating, makin the Pats record 0-1, Jets record 1-0.
 09-12-2007, 08:56 AM         #98
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Gotta love a Belichick News Conference..
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 11 years ago '07        #99
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@ belichick

that sh*t was too funny. he's obviously guilty as a motherfu*ker.
 09-12-2007, 09:02 AM         #100
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Mangina is up next.. Make a thread for that one.. What a fu*king back stabbing pus*y he is though
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