Sep 6 - Timbaland, Jay-Z Sued Over 'Big Pimpin' Sample

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 09-06-2007, 03:24 PM         #21
Silver N Black 
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 Domic462 said:
I hope Tim wins too, who in America would listen to Indian or egyptian music?..My point exactly.


Tim>> Scott

It's not Tim's job to clear the sample Jay should of done it he knows Timbo samples besides the dude late as hell, their should be like a time limit on that or something, unless this article is old.


It's the producer's job to get the clearance..............lmao at Jay getting clearances................
 10 years ago '06        #22
25toLife 
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damn, again...n*gga shoulda just taken the time to clear it...
 10 years ago '06        #23
Unitson 
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 Saint1 said:
you guys really don't know anything.

Tim sampled it and probably tried to clear it and went ahead anyway for two reasons:
1:he thought they wouldn't notice
2:An indian record company WOULD NOT EVER let a sample be cleared for a song about s3x and hos, do you all not know anything outside your neighborhood?

samples don't get cleared all the time, it's not just an ask and ok go procedure

and no Jay's not gonna go around clearing samples, be real, you think a rapper is gonna do extra paperwork?

Real talk my dude

Even 2Pac's dead a.ss can't get plenty of samples cleared with his original sh*t leading to mostly remixed albums.
 09-06-2007, 03:36 PM         #24
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Damn....:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
 09-06-2007, 03:38 PM         #25
Domic462 
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 demon9991 said:


It's the producer's job to get the clearance..............lmao at Jay getting clearances................
Make a beat you sell it, give him/her all the informantion they need then the rest is up to them home boy.
 09-06-2007, 03:40 PM         #26
Domic462 
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 Unitson said:
Real talk my dude

Even 2Pac's dead a.ss can't get plenty of samples cleared with his original sh*t leading to mostly remixed albums.
There weren't alot of beats to pac's original stuff they were added later, if you are refering to the things he had done before he died.
 09-06-2007, 03:44 PM         #27
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 Domic462 said:
Make a beat you sell it, give him/her all the informantion they need then the rest is up to them home boy.
You're still liable for any copyright violations, so get the sample clearances or don't sample other music at all, very simple.
 09-06-2007, 03:54 PM         #28
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 demon9991 said:
You're still liable for any copyright violations, so get the sample clearances or don't sample other music at all, very simple.
How is that? Sampled beats should be legal under the Fair Use Statute to at least sell to a rapper, after that then no.
 09-06-2007, 04:14 PM         #29
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 x Tha Arkitek x said:
Caught up to ya timmy, i'm starting to question if he ever had any of those samples cleared.....DJ Paul & Juciy J would be in the same boat if they ever reached Timbo's Super Producer status.
i could be totally wrong but isnt it the artists job to have the sample cleared before the song is released to public?
 10 years ago '04        #30
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Tim spoke on this a while back, he use a beat he like and deal with the repercussions later he said.
 09-06-2007, 05:38 PM         #31
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Make your own sh*t, damn.

I remember when Swizz got sued for using a pre-recorded melody from a keyboard. It was for "Down Bottom" I think.
 09-06-2007, 05:39 PM         #32
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fu*k timbaland
 09-06-2007, 05:51 PM         #33
stackmatics 
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.. well atleast when hes broke from all these law suits keri wilson wont care if he has money.
 10 years ago '04        #34
teekarow 2 heat pts
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there is nothing wrong with sampling. . to the cats that say it is, i bet they themselves make some wack a.ss fruity loop beats. gtfoh. Is Dre Wack. He is the sample king. .....but you must pay for your Sh*t. thats where Tim fukked up. Many beat makers think they can disguise the sample. If you can, thats what really makes you tight.
 10 years ago '04        #35
tazbk 1 heat pts
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 Domic462 said:
Make a beat you sell it, give him/her all the informantion they need then the rest is up to them home boy.
It's actually up to the label to get clearances. They have multiple staff members dedicated to that sh*t. Anyway, the label wouldnt know to get the clearance unless the producer reveals that there is a sample and where the sample came from.
 10 years ago '07        #36
timdog 920 heat pts920
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theres plenty of songs out there that got samples in it that havent been cleared the producer disguises like homey said

tim should of knew tho as big of a producers as he is
 10 years ago '05        #37
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It is the producer's responsibility to make sure that the artist and label know that there is a used in the beat. The producer must also make sure the label knows the name of the song and the artist. It is then on the label and the artist to make sure the sample is cleared.
 10 years ago '07        #38
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dam again :banghead:
 09-06-2007, 06:33 PM         #39
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@ all the idiots in here hate on Tim....especialy all these girls...bi*ches dont know sh*t about production

the melodies he "steals" are just ONE element of the beat...a tiny part of the whole song. Not many people period can do what he does. Timbaland is one of the most amazing producer in the past 20 years period.

and like dude above said, its the labels job to clear the sample, who are we to say that Timbo told them the sample, but they didn't get it cleared?

This isnt the first time Rocafella slipped on sample clearance issues, remember how they forgot to clear the Lauryn Hill sample on College Dropout, , so kanye had to hurry and remake the track from scratch just before the album got pressed up.
 10 years ago '04        #40
creep 14 heat pts14
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he could have easly paid them off.. since he brags he gets a 500k a beat.
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