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 11 years ago '04        #61
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 DPGUNIT said:
go crank dat "i dont know sh*t about hip hop" n get the fu*k outta here...theres always one...if u have no insight on the topic then just fall the fu*k back:banghead:
AND WHATS SAD IS THAT THIS n*gga IS FROM THE BIRTH PLACE OF HIPHOP..LOLOL...
 11 years ago '04        #62
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 Crazy Chi Guy said:
AND WHATS SAD IS THAT THIS n*gga IS FROM THE BIRTH PLACE OF HIPHOP..LOLOL...
EXACTLY
 11 years ago '04        #63
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 `·.¤KINGGS¤.·´ said:
The whole backpacker bit is so old. I can't wait till the industry decides to put that type of ish on TV. What you gonna call backpack then?
HAHAH..COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER...SO NOW I'M A BACKPACKER CAUSE I DO GRAFFITI, AND DJ..AND LISTEN TO MUSIC THAT AT ITS CORE IS REALLER THAN ANYTHING THAT COMES ON BET...LOLOLOL...NOW I'M A BACKPACKER..LOLOL
 08-23-2007, 02:18 AM         #64
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 timdog said:


thats your opinion

eric b rakim made them beats he said in the xxl

where's easy mo bee,havoc

havoc 3/4 of ur list
Rakim hates Eric and would say anything to p!ss him off. I don't believe him honestly.
 11 years ago '07        #65
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 Crazy Chi Guy said:
Its not a issue of back packer vs. Dre...Its a issue of MUSICAL TALENTS...AND ITS OBVIOUS THAT DRE HAS CLASSICS, BUT HE IS OVERRATED BECAUSE OF HIS MAIN STREAM APPEAL...THERE ARE OTHER PRODUCERS THAT HAVE SURPASSED DRE'S TALENT LEVEL THAT DONT GET THE PROPS THAT HE DOES...IE..J.DILLA..A MUSICAL GENIUS..(AND U CANT SAY THAT DRE IS A MUSICAL GENIUS!..NO BODY HAS GIVEN DRE THAT TITLE YET, AND ITS A REASON WHY!!)



why do ppl always be like a person is overrated cuz he or she is mainstream if
it makes no sense i would love for a song i produced tio be mainstream most hip hop producers sample any way so where is their actual talent all they do is come up wit a nice drum pattern and loop or sounds dats it


a musical genius is a prince babyface jimmy jam terry lewis mufu*kas who play live instruments and write their own music even da nicca r, kelly plays his own instruments and writes his music


you niccas on bx
 11 years ago '04        #66
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Top 5 Greatest Groups of All time:
1. Tribe
2. Outkast
3. Gang Starr
5. De La Soul

Honorable Mention

6. Wu Tang
7. Blackstarrr
8. NWA
9. The Roots
10. Geto Boyz
 11 years ago '04        #67
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thats why i suggested a subforum for the eras in hip hop ie 80s 90s 2000 n up so sh*t could be discussed in a decent manner
 11 years ago '04        #68
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 timdog said:



why do ppl always be like a person is overrated cuz he or she is mainstream if
it makes no sense i would love for a song i produced tio be mainstream most hip hop producers sample any way so where is their actual talent all they do is come up wit a nice drum pattern and loop or sounds dats it


a musical genius is a prince babyface jimmy jam terry lewis mufu*kas who play live instruments and write their own music even da nicca r, kelly plays his own instruments and writes his music


you niccas on bx
I feel what u saying, but you cant say that Dre doesnt get ADDMEDIATE CREDIT FOR HIS PRODUCTION BASED ON WHO HE IS...SAME GOES WITH JAYZ...JAYZ WAS PUTTING OUT HALF a.ss ALBUMS, BUT BECAUSE OF HIS NAME PEOPLE OVERLOOK SOME OF HIS BULLsh*t AND CALL IT GOOD MUSIC...SAME FOR DRE..DRE HAS MADE SOME BULLsh*t ALSO, THAT PEOPLE CALL CLASSIC, AND THEY BASE IT ONLY ON HIS NAME...

AND AS FAR AS MUSICAL GENIUS GOES, PRINCE IS A MUSICAL GENIUS, BUT WHY CANT JAY DEE BE CALLED A GENIUS...HE HAS PERFECTED HIS CRAFT AND HAS MASTERED PRODUCTION WITH HIS EQUIPMENT THAT HE USES (MPC ETC....) SAME WITH PRINCE..HE HAS MASTERED MAKING MUSIC WITH LIVE INSTRUMENTS...BOTH CAN BE REGARDED AS MUSICAL GENIUSES....ITS NOT WHAT U USE, ITS HOW YOU USE IT FAM...AND IN ALL FAIRNESS ..JAYDEE IS A GENIUS THAT DOESNT GET THE CREDIT
 11 years ago '04        #69
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 Curtisimo said:
Im sorry if yall want to have a J dilla prication thread go head

but to say j dilla>>> dr. dre means that the threa dstarter wa slookign for some attention

and I dont call sh*t back packer cuz its not mainstream
If that was the case I wouldnt call n*ggaz who listen to lupe fiasco and common back packers and call n*ggaz hwo listen to hell rell and jr writer from dip set back packers since he is an underground rapper also

i call it back packer cuz it seems like this dude J Dilla made beats for rappers that alot of back packers listen too this so called "real hiphop" or this "neo soul" sh*t in hiphop

nobody was making noize abotu this clown intill he died an dnow hes better then dr. dre

hi tek>>>>>>>>>>> j dilla
Buckwild >>>>>>>> j. dilla
Organized noize(or is it confusion?)>>>>> j. dilla
large Professor>>>>>>>>> J Dilla

im not gonna front like i heard all of J dilla work (i havent hear all of dr. dre's either) but come on this is the back packer calling out thread
#1 fam attention on the net is not needed...this is a got damn forum, discussion board what the fu*k else u expect people to do on here? i've been a dilla fan from the jump listen to stakes is high..

#2 that second bolded part speaks for itself
 11 years ago '07        #70
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 Crazy Chi Guy said:
I feel what u saying, but you cant say that Dre doesnt get ADDMEDIATE CREDIT FOR HIS PRODUCTION BASED ON WHO HE IS...SAME GOES WITH JAYZ...JAYZ WAS PUTTING OUT HALF a.ss ALBUMS, BUT BECAUSE OF HIS NAME PEOPLE OVERLOOK SOME OF HIS BULLsh*t AND CALL IT GOOD MUSIC...SAME FOR DRE..DRE HAS MADE SOME BULLsh*t ALSO, THAT PEOPLE CALL CLASSIC, AND THEY BASE IT ONLY ON HIS NAME...

AND AS FAR AS MUSICAL GENIUS GOES, PRINCE IS A MUSICAL GENIUS, BUT WHY CANT JAY DEE BE CALLED A GENIUS...HE HAS PERFECTED HIS CRAFT AND HAS MASTERED PRODUCTION WITH HIS EQUIPMENT THAT HE USES (MPC ETC....) SAME WITH PRINCE..HE HAS MASTERED MAKING MUSIC WITH LIVE INSTRUMENTS...BOTH CAN BE REGARDED AS MUSICAL GENIUSES....ITS NOT WHAT U USE, ITS HOW YOU USE IT FAM...AND IN ALL FAIRNESS ..JAYDEE IS A GENIUS THAT DOESNT GET THE CREDIT

yea i feel you but ill prefer dre over j dilla tho niccas act like dre da only nicca who dont use co producers check the credits of late registration kanye uses co producers to a cat named jon brion


you rarley hear a hip hop song with out a sample y is that


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 11 years ago '04        #71
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 Curtisimo said:
Im sorry if yall want to have a J dilla aprication thread go head

but to say j dilla>>> dr. dre means that the thread starter was looking for some attention

and I dont call sh*t back packer cuz its not mainstream
If that was the case I wouldnt call n*ggaz who listen to lupe fiasco and common back packers and call n*ggaz hwo listen to hell rell and jr writer from dip set back packers since they are more underground tyep of rappers then common and luper

i call it back packer cuz it seems like this dude J Dilla made beats for rappers that alot of back packers listen too this so called "real hiphop" or this "neo soul" sh*t in hiphop

nobody was making noize abotu this clown intill he died an dnow hes better then dr. dre

hi tek>>>>>>>>>>> j dilla
Buckwild >>>>>>>> j. dilla
Organized noize(or is it confusion?)>>>>> j. dilla
large Professor>>>>>>>>> J Dilla
Mannie Fresh>>>>>>> J Dillla

im not gonna front like i heard all of J dilla work (i havent hear all of dr. dre's either) but come on this is the back packer calling out thread

and to the dude that said crank that

what the hell does that mean??

im sorry i dont watch music vidoes or listen to the radio so please tell em what does that mean???

and when did songs abotu dancing and havign a GOOD TIME not become hiphop???

fu*k out of here typical back packer responces
WELL I CAN SPEAK FOR MY SELF ON THIS ONE... I BEEN ARGUING WITH n*ggaZ BOUT JAYDEE..WHEN n*ggaZ AINT EVEN KNOW WHO HE WAS..BACK WHEN THE UMHA..WAS PRODUCING FOR TRIBE ON BEATS RHYMS AND LIFE...I READ PRODUCTION CREDITS...SO TO SAY THAT n*ggaZ IS JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON IS FALSE. AND IF U READ WHAT I SAID EARLIER IN THIS THREAD...I SAID THAT IT WASNT FAIR TO COMPARE JDILL AND DRE...THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT STYLES....READ WHAT I SAID EARLIER FAM.

jdilla >> hitek (Musically, and sample selection wise he's better)
Jdilla >> buckwild (Not even worth arguing)
Organized Noise = Jdilla (Thats a group of n*ggaz, not fair to compare)
Manny fresh <<< Jdilla (HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH)
Extra P = J.Dilla ( I love LP's sh*t, but as of right now..J.D's catalogue is sh*ting on LP's, but i got love for both of them..and to add to this, J.D is better on the Mic than Extra P)..
 11 years ago '07        #72
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babyface>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 11 years ago '07        #73
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props dilla >______________
 11 years ago '04        #74
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Quincy Jones >>>>>>>>_________

Produce One of the greatest albums of all time: Thriller....

Now what:applause:
 08-23-2007, 02:35 AM         #75
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 Curtisimo said:
Im sorry if yall want to have a J dilla aprication thread go head

but to say j dilla>>> dr. dre means that the thread starter was looking for some attention

and I dont call sh*t back packer cuz its not mainstream
If that was the case I wouldnt call n*ggaz who listen to lupe fiasco and common back packers and call n*ggaz hwo listen to hell rell and jr writer from dip set back packers since they are more underground tyep of rappers then common and luper

i call it back packer cuz it seems like this dude J Dilla made beats for rappers that alot of back packers listen too this so called "real hiphop" or this "neo soul" sh*t in hiphop

nobody was making noize abotu this clown intill he died an dnow hes better then dr. dre

hi tek>>>>>>>>>>> j dilla
Buckwild >>>>>>>> j. dilla
Organized noize(or is it confusion?)>>>>> j. dilla
large Professor>>>>>>>>> J Dilla
Mannie Fresh>>>>>>> J Dillla

im not gonna front like i heard all of J dilla work (i havent hear all of dr. dre's either) but come on this is the back packer calling out thread

and to the dude that said crank that

what the hell does that mean??

im sorry i dont watch music vidoes or listen to the radio so please tell em what does that mean???

and when did songs abotu dancing and havign a GOOD TIME not become hiphop???

fu*k out of here typical back packer responces
Neo-Soul is under R&B. I'm not one of those "Real Hip-Hop" dudes either. I listen to Clipse, DMX, Twista, Chamillionaire, David Banner, Dyme Def and alot more that "Real Hip-Hop" followers would cringe at.

You haven't heard J Dilla's beats and you even said here, so why do you belong in this discussion at all?
 08-23-2007, 02:36 AM         #76
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 timdog said:
yea i feel you but ill prefer dre over j dilla tho niccas act like dre da only nicca who dont use co producers check the credits of late registration kanye uses co producers to a cat named jon brion


you rarley hear a hip hop song with out a sample y is that
Kanye also uses Devo Springsteen.
 08-23-2007, 02:38 AM         #77
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 Curtisimo said:
most beats from the "realhiphop relm of the underground":rolleyes: doesnt "wow" me
putting everything in a little box. There are so many styles of Hip-Hop in the underground, you just made yourself look silly.
 11 years ago '04        #78
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Top 5 hype men of all time:

1. Flavor Flavvvvv
2. Spliff starr
3. Vinny (of Nauty By Nature..n*gga was never nice on the mic)
4. Puffy..(Thats all he ever was)
5. Big Boi from outkast..(..nahh just bullsh*ting..lolol)...FANSWORTH BENTLY
 11 years ago '07        #79
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 Crazy Chi Guy said:
Quincy Jones >>>>>>>>_________

Produce One of the greatest albums of all time: Thriller....

Now what:applause:



quincy was more of the arranger

babyface=g..o.a.t.


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 08-23-2007, 02:41 AM         #80
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 Curtisimo said:
who said i havent heard J dlla's work???

i said i havent heard ALL

i havent heard ALL of Dr. Dre's work either since I wasnt into the deathrow days(or westcoast hiphop for that matter) in the early 90's (just doggystyle and the chronic)

with that being said Dj. Quick>>>> J dilla
Cool, but you just said you have heard only the ATCQ and Common beats..LOL

Get out of the discussion dude.
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