The Official 2007 FIBA Americas Championship Thread

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 09-02-2007, 11:21 AM         #381
dj mannie fresh  OP
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 502forLife said:
^^^simply proving why your the worst poster on the bx
hes not serious romo just does that sh*t for attention no need to worry about him. its these other dudes who actually really think like that the tempus, michael jordans, luda 0 dix,jaewill, jj01, and ceo that are the problem. i used to just think they were bitter because of the mans talent but there responses show and even bigger mental malnourishement. they arent relly getting the picture and there comprehension and reasoning skills arent roght at all go look at their post they cant even formulate and opinion or think rationally they just spew out illogical hate filled rants so they can get attention. people say misery loves company but its deeper. it on some somebody wasnt there in the home or a chemical imbalance sh*t. one of those dudes has a chamillionaire avy! i aint bullsh*ttin!:wow:
 09-02-2007, 11:23 AM         #382
dj mannie fresh  OP
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all that anger and obssesion towards a man isnt normal. it just isnt.
 10 years ago '06        #383
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 dj mannie fresh said:
hes not serious romo just does that sh*t for attention no need to worry about him. its these other dudes who actually really think like that the tempus, michael jordans, luda 0 dix,jaewill, jj01, and ceo that are the problem. i used to just think they were bitter because of the mans talent but there responses show and even bigger mental malnourishement. they arent relly getting the picture and there comprehension and reasoning skills arent roght at all go look at their post they cant even formulate and opinion or think rationally they just spew out illogical hate filled rants so they can get attention. people say misery loves company but its deeper. it on some somebody wasnt there in the home or a chemical imbalance sh*t. one of those dudes has a chamillionaire avy! i aint bullsh*ttin!:wow:

are we to take you any more seriously with your man crush/obsession on mr bean? trying to making multiple threads every time this man so much as coughs is rather pathetic. at you calling me out for having cham in the avi when you named yourself after mannie fresh.
 09-02-2007, 02:49 PM         #384
c money 100  OP
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comes on @ 4 but iono what channel


 Skip>>>Ronnie said:
n*gga u post a kobe thread everyday in every section :thumbsdow


but does anyone know what time the gold medal game comes on?
 10 years ago '04        #385
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LAS VEGAS -- The Tournament of the Americas isn't quite over yet, but the important part is.

So now that the United States has qualified for the Beijing Olympics, it's time to issue the report card for what was truly a terrific team -- one that'll be drawing comparisons to the original 1992 Dream Team if they keep playing as well as they did Saturday in a 135-91 trouncing of Puerto Rico.

LeBron James had 19 points and nine a.ssists against Puerto Rico.
But before we get to the grades, let's pause for a few words from team director Jerry Colangelo, who has come to the realization that last summer's loss to Greece in the World Championship is actually turning out to be a blessing in disguise.

"We didn't expect to [qualify] this way. We wanted it to happen last summer, but the reality is that I feel we're better off for the experience," Colangelo said Saturday.

"Where are we? We're a lot further ahead than we would have been had we won the world championship and had just a week of work this summer.

"This really is preparing us more for our eventual goal and objective, which is not only to get to Beijing, but to win the gold medal. I think the changes that were made, the shooters that were brought in, the maturity of our young players compared to where they were a year ago, we're light years ahead of last year, and I think we'll be even better next year."

The biggest difference from a year ago is the shooting, and Saturday's victory highlighted just how far the Americans have come in that department. They shot 8-for-8 on 3s in the third quarter alone, and they finished an astounding 23-of-36 overall in what was by far the best outside shooting display I've ever seen in 12 years of covering them at three Olympics, two World Championships and three versions of the Tournament of the Americas.

"Everybody worked at it. Everybody read in print and watched on TV that everyone said we can't shoot, we're not good shooters. But hopefully we've proved we can shoot and defend," Carmelo Anthony said.

Anthony, who scored a team-high 27 points, made a somewhat surprising admission afterward when he said he enjoys FIBA basketball more than NBA basketball. He had another spectacular tournament, and he makes my All-Tournament team along with Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Luis Scola and Leandro Barbosa (in a tough choice over Jason Kidd).

Now for the grades, but before we give one to each individual player, we'll have to give an overall grade to the team.

The impulse is to give them an A, but I'm going to downgrade it to an A-minus for a couple reasons: Allowing Mexico to score 100 points, being played evenly by Argentina's B-team reserves over the second half of their game Thursday night, and showing that they are still vulnerable to the moving pick-and-rolls that international teams run so well.

But overall, so much has improved from a year ago, from team chemistry to team humility to outside shooting. They'll be the favorite going into the Beijing Olympics a year from now, but they're still going to be tested at least couple of times when they get there, and we still have not seen how they'll respond if they fall behind.


On to the individual grades, and we'll go alphabetically:

Carmelo Anthony: Averaged a team-high 21.9 points and shot 63 percent from the field, including 59 percent from 3-point range. Also had one of the most vicious dunks in U.S. team history in Thursday night's victory over Argentina, flushing it over Federico Kammerichs (does that guy look like Jon Barry with a 70s mustache, or what?). Grade: A+

Chauncey Billups: Mr. Big Shot had the lowest field goal percentage of any U.S. player, 39 percent, and scored only 5.4 points in an average of 16 minutes as the backup point guard behind Jason Kidd. It'll come down to a choice next summer whether he, Chris Paul, Kirk Hinrich or Deron Williams will be the backup in Beijing. Grade: B

Kobe Bryant: His intensity on defense at the start of the tournament set the tone for everyone on the team, and he subjugated his offense fairly consistently -- though not all the time. But when he scored in spurts, they were big spurts, including eight straight points on his first three shots against Argentina to put the U.S. in command early. Grade: A

Tyson Chandler: Played less than nine minutes per game as the 12th man, but gave the team hierarchy plenty to think about in his limited time, grabbing more offensive rebounds than anyone but Amare Stoudemire and blocking 14 shots. The U.S. team will need someone exactly like him in certain games in Beijing. He'd get a higher grade if he hadn't missed two-thirds of his free throws. Grade: B

Dwight Howard: Is shooting a tournament-high 78 percent from the field, and it's surprising the team does not run a few more plays for him. He scored only 8.9 points per game, and he missed 13 of his 37 free throws -- a weakness opponents will exploit next summer if he does not improve. Grade: A-

LeBron James: Who ever thought this guy would be a 58 percent 3-point shooter, especially after how poorly he shot in the finals. But he's been putting in the work, and the improvement is tremendous. And how about this stat: Overall for the tournament, he's shooting 77 percent. He also leads the team in a.ssists with 44. Grade: A+

Jason Kidd: He has taken only 10 shots all tournament, four of which came Saturday against Puerto Rico. Has been somewhat of an unofficial team captain, his age and experience bringing a whole new level of poise to a program that hasn't had a wise, old sage at the helm since John Stockton. Has 42 a.ssists and just five turnovers. Grade: A+

Mike Miller: Had his best game of the tournament Saturday with four 3-pointers and 14 points, but was erratic in the games before that and shot only 43 percent overall, 37 percent on 3s. Can't see him having any chance to make next summer's team unless injuries make Michael Redd and/or Joe Johnson unavailable. Grade: C+

Tayshaun Prince: Scoring 6.6 points in nearly 18 minutes per game, but has made only 33 percent of his 3s and 44 percent of his free throws. Another guy who will have a hard time making the final roster for Beijing, which must be submitted by next June 28. Grade: B

Michael Redd: Started the tournament well, then cooled off, then knocked down seven of eight 3-point shots against Puerto Rico. He's fourth on the team with a 15.4 average, and he'll be a key contributor off the bench next summer. Also, coach Mike Krzyzewski has been praising his defense quite a bit. Grade: B+

Amare Stoudemire: Contributed a steady 11.8 points and 4.8 rebounds as the backup center behind Howard and is shooting 69 percent -- third-highest on the team. Hard to see him not making the team next year, but he may find himself watching a lot more than he's playing -- just as was the case for him in Athens. Grade: A-

Deron Williams: Played only 14 minutes per game, sometimes as a two guard, and scored just 4.6 points per game. But he got his feet wet in international competition and set himself up to be the leading contender (although Chris Paul may disagree) to start for the 2010 World Championship team and the 2012 Olympic team. Grade: B
melo & lebron shootin lights out this tourney:applause:
 09-02-2007, 05:50 PM         #386
dj mannie fresh  OP
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 Skip>>>Ronnie said:
n*gga u post a kobe thread everyday in every section :thumbsdow

but does anyone know what time the gold medal game comes on?
and your right behind me! question: how would you know im in every kobe thread unless u entered?
 09-02-2007, 05:55 PM         #387
dj mannie fresh  OP
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 Skip>>>Ronnie said:
i said u post a thread meaning u make threads all the time

i dont know every thread u in n*gga


and thats real!


redd making kobe look bad
kobe making melo look like a winner:wow::applause::applause::applause:
 10 years ago '07        #388
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is the game on any channel???

Kidd,Lebron,Kobe,Melo all deserve A+ anybody else on the team is interchangable
 10 years ago '06        #389
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It's on FSN
 10 years ago '06        #390
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hell yea thats what im wondering...they show every game on espn and classics and the finals they aint gonna show....wtf?
 10 years ago '06        #391
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Dwight Howard just did a windmill. AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
 10 years ago '04        #392
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i rarely get excited watching the national team play.

I mean seriously there is no reason for them to lose they are that good.

But this sh*t is entertaining. USA puttin it on them dudes. One dudes going to go back home and cry to Manu.
 10 years ago '06        #393
25toLife 
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the games on right now?
 10 years ago '04        #394
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 25toLife said:
the games on right now?
Yup. Halftime now.
 09-02-2007, 06:56 PM         #395
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 25toLife said:
the games on right now?
yea Fox Sports Network
 10 years ago '07        #396
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yea it on
 10 years ago '06        #397
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just saw the game was on, is scola wreckin on us again?
 09-02-2007, 07:20 PM         #398
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 jj01 said:
just saw the game was on, is scola wreckin on us again?
89-59 USA is up
 10 years ago '04        #399
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 Maroon_Tiger said:
melo, bron and howard are clowning... kobe wasnt very good today
shooting wise but he got like 8 dimes fam
 09-02-2007, 07:30 PM         #400
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 Skip>>>Ronnie said:
melo been a winner since college


melo didnt need to someone to carry him to get that championship at syracuse
@ melo being a winner

he cant get out the 1st round with another superstar on his side

melo been in the league 4 years and has 1 all star selection

and a 2nd all nba team and a 3rd all nba team
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