How Often Did Michael Jordan Get "Hot/In the Zone" from the Perimeter?

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 08-12-2007, 11:16 PM         #81
WAITAMINUTE  OP
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 Reggie Bush said:

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have u lost your mind... kobe is the man.....bron bron is the future when kobe is out of the league.
 08-12-2007, 11:18 PM         #82
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You're totally right

oh my god, watch any of MICHAEL's games, he doesn't have kobe's midrange shot... he just plain doesn't have it.....

you all are idiots

i've seen michael play, dude got 90% of his points from freethrows or from inside shots.... he never had a decent consistent shot
 08-12-2007, 11:23 PM         #83
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Look at how close this n*gga was to the basket every time he took a shot



especially fade-away
 08-12-2007, 11:25 PM         #84
Ar-Ra'd  OP
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compare to Kobe

 08-12-2007, 11:28 PM         #85
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 Ar-Ra'd said:
Look at how close this n*gga was to the basket every time he took a shot



especially fade-away
did ou see the n*ggas he had guarding him? 90% of the time it was no need for the fadeaway the defenders were 6'4 and under he couldve just shot over them
 10 years ago '04        #86
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have you fu*kin idiots ever heard of a thing called......SHOT SELECTION

it's not that he didnt get hot from outside, it's that he knew better than to do what kobe does...fire up insane shots for no reason


shot selection is why kobe will NEVER be as good as jordan, it may seem like he's a better shooter from outside because jordan did NOT force 3's at the wrong fu*kin times, he put them up when they were NEEDED and did it at will...

i dont know why kobe tries to play like the old jordan, shooting fade aways when he still has the LEGS and youth to play like the "young" jordan, instead he's shooting turn around jumpers for no reason, jordan aint go insane from behind the arch all day because that is not how you win fu*kin games...jordan is a WINNER, not an individual show off, yea he was arrogant but without wins none of the MVPs or scoring titles
 08-12-2007, 11:32 PM         #87
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heres a fu*kin fadaway over a huge player at huge range

 08-12-2007, 11:33 PM         #88
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 sunzoo said:
have you fu*kin idiots ever heard of a thing called......SHOT SELECTION

it's not that he didnt get hot from outside, it's that he knew better than to do what kobe does...fire up insane shots for no reason


shot selection is why kobe will NEVER be as good as jordan, it may seem like he's a better shooter from outside because jordan did NOT force 3's at the wrong fu*kin times, he put them up when they were NEEDED and did it at will...

i dont know why kobe tries to play like the old jordan, shooting fade aways when he still has the LEGS and youth to play like the "young" jordan, instead he's shooting turn around jumpers for no reason, jordan aint go insane from behind the arch all day because that is not how you win fu*kin games...jordan is a WINNER, not an individual show off, yea he was arrogant but without wins none of the MVPs or scoring titles
heres a fu*kin fadaway over a huge player at huge range

 08-12-2007, 11:34 PM         #89
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 sunzoo said:
have you fu*kin idiots ever heard of a thing called......SHOT SELECTION

it's not that he didnt get hot from outside, it's that he knew better than to do what kobe does...fire up insane shots for no reason


shot selection is why kobe will NEVER be as good as jordan, it may seem like he's a better shooter from outside because jordan did NOT force 3's at the wrong fu*kin times, he put them up when they were NEEDED and did it at will...

i dont know why kobe tries to play like the old jordan, shooting fade aways when he still has the LEGS and youth to play like the "young" jordan, instead he's shooting turn around jumpers for no reason, jordan aint go insane from behind the arch all day because that is not how you win fu*kin games...jordan is a WINNER, not an individual show off, yea he was arrogant but without wins none of the MVPs or scoring titles
 10 years ago '04        #90
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If jordan had this team he would of won 6 more...
Face it kobe is failure....


haha i though it was guaranteed championship...... btw malone and payton werent washed up, they were just old... i believe before they went to lakers, they were around 20ppg ... i dont think thats washed up =/ its jus the lakers didnt move the ball around, gave it to kobe too much... shaq was too dominant to not give the ball... so payton/malone didnt contribute as much as they can.

jordan = goat.... hmm i believe he had those clutch champion "shots" not layups...

jordan didnt need to shoot from longrange that much thats why we didnt see much of it.

BTW ITS A TEAM GAME! u can put jordan, kobe, shaq, pippen on a team and still lose if theres no teamwork.
 08-12-2007, 11:36 PM         #91
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 Tempus # 1 said:
hey little guy are u old enough to be in this thread?


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 08-12-2007, 11:38 PM         #92
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 dj mannie fresh said:
did ou see the n*ggas he had guarding him? 90% of the time it was no need for the fadeaway the defenders were 6'4 and under he couldve just shot over them


They give MJ props for shooting over John Starks
 10 years ago '04        #93
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 WSH Redskins said:

Michael has one landamrk game under his belt where he was knocking down threes like crazy

the game against portland in the finasl... thats it...
again....why in the fu*k does any real basketball fan care if some player, especially one who is not a 3 point specialist "knocks down 3's like crazy"

that kinda bullsh*t is irrelevant to the grand scheme of winning, he didnt force 3's in bad game situations unlike your boyfriend

 WSH Redskins said:


i justed posted about this game in the other thread

and i said thats the only landmark game in which he's known for... he cant do that on a consistent basis like kobe

lol wow...jordan cant lose on a consistant basis like kobe either or make bad decisions like him

and yall talking about defenders being 6'4 like that sh*t really mattered when they could actually play DEFENSE, now you're not even allowed to touch ANYBODY, back then those little 6'4 a**holes would do more than stand in front of you and look menacing, i dont care how tall you are...todays game is NOT defensive, back then even john stockton was beasting on n*ggas and elbowing cats, just because they arent genetic freaks doesnt mean they were worst defensive players...they were better, better ball IQ and awareness
 10 years ago '05        #94
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 Ar-Ra'd said:


They give MJ props for shooting over John Starks
n*gga u quotin urself???
 08-12-2007, 11:41 PM         #95
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 sunzoo said:
have you fu*kin idiots ever heard of a thing called......SHOT SELECTION

it's not that he didnt get hot from outside, it's that he knew better than to do what kobe does...fire up insane shots for no reason


shot selection is why kobe will NEVER be as good as jordan, it may seem like he's a better shooter from outside because jordan did NOT force 3's at the wrong fu*kin times, he put them up when they were NEEDED and did it at will...

i dont know why kobe tries to play like the old jordan, shooting fade aways when he still has the LEGS and youth to play like the "young" jordan, instead he's shooting turn around jumpers for no reason, jordan aint go insane from behind the arch all day because that is not how you win fu*kin games...jordan is a WINNER, not an individual show off, yea he was arrogant but without wins none of the MVPs or scoring titles

And Jordan played like Dr J people said. What does this have to do with the question at hand?
 08-13-2007, 12:03 AM         #96
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 RakimAllahNY said:
And Jordan played like Dr J people said. What does this have to do with the question at hand?
It has nothing to do with it... they're all just haters
 08-13-2007, 12:10 AM         #97
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 RakimAllahNY said:
And Jordan played like Dr J people said. What does this have to do with the question at hand?
:applause::applause::wow: thank fu*kin u! im glad some of us were old enough to see mike play let alone remeber that. they had him on the cover of sports weekly as the ''clone of the doctor'' and they all used to say he was the carbon copy of dr j. and it wasnt till later they called him the ''new and improved dr.j'' and jordan said himself so many times i got book were hes constantly preched he doesnt even know if he wouldve been in the leaugue had he not patterned his complete game off of dr. js. he said himself he can never take credit for being the greatest because he learned everything he knew from baylor, dr,j and magic. he said they taught him the game. and hell never consider himself the greatest becuase he never played against them in their primes and he never knows how his game wouldve turned out if he did have those influences.
 08-13-2007, 02:23 AM         #98
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 RakimAllahNY said:
And Jordan played like Dr J people said. What does this have to do with the question at hand?
Because Jordan was an evolution of the players before him. Kobe's nothing but a mindless drone, an emulation of the old MJ. His basketball IQ is not even remote to MJ's, even in his early years. Jordan was still a beast when he was on Washington. The older he became, the more he began to adjust his game to fit that.

Jordan didn't become a shooter until late in his career because his body has deteriorated.Kobe would waste his athleticism by just taking jumpers all day when he really doesn't have to. A 3pt play is better than a low percentage shot.
 08-13-2007, 02:37 AM         #99
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Because Jordan was an evolution of the players before him. Kobe's nothing but a mindless drone, an emulation of the old MJ. His basketball IQ is not even remote to MJ's, even in his early years. Jordan was still a beast when he was on Washington. The older he became, the more he began to adjust his game to fit that.

@ him being and evolution of players before him. I've heard it all. The reason they called him a Dr J clone was because his game was exactly like his. Did MJ copy his game? No hes a two guard that was a high flyer. So if Kobe is a drone so was MJ. And your whole point of his IQ compared to Kobe's makes no sense because you haven't seen Kobe adjust because hes still at the stage in his career when hes impossible to stop on offense. It obvious you and everyone else hates Kobe which is fine but its clouding your judgment on the subject.


Jordan didn't become a shooter until late in his career because his body has deteriorated.Kobe would waste his athleticism by just taking jumpers all day when he really doesn't have to. A 3pt play is better than a low percentage shot.
Are you saying Kobe isn't a slasher? Because he is and he gets to line the quite a bit.



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 08-13-2007, 01:10 PM         #100
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 RakimAllahNY said:
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@ him being and evolution of players before him. I\'ve heard it all. The reason they called him a Dr J clone was because his game was exactly like his. Did MJ copy his game? No hes a two guard that was a high flyer. So if Kobe is a drone so was MJ. And your whole point of his IQ compared to Kobe\'s makes no sense because you haven\'t seen Kobe adjust because hes still at the stage in his career when hes impossible to stop on offense. It obvious you and everyone else hates Kobe which is fine but its clouding your judgment on the subject. [/COLOR]


[COLOR=\"Orange\"] Are you saying Kobe isn\'t a slasher? Because he is and he gets to line the quite a bit.

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Like I\'ve stated. Kobe is nothing but a mindless drone. Jordan wasn\'t a direct, carbon copy of the players before him. Only an idiot would believe that and you prove my point. You really believe MJ\'s entire game is like Dr. J? Why you trying to run with that bs?

Kobe is more of a shooter than slasher. Just like the OLD MJ. Kobe is and has already wasted his athletic ability by not going to the basket more. Lebron and Wade are taking advantage of it, shoot higher percentages and are more efficient scorers than Kobe. When they become older, if they\'re smart enough, they will adjust their game to become prerimiter scorers.

Kobe is merely playing copy cat, it\'s almost sad that you guys fail to see that. He takes a lot of long, unessacary jumpers, and when they don\'t fall he forces sh*t. That\'s how he k!lled the Lakers in the \'04 Finals, and in the playoffs ever since then. He doesn\'t take advantage of what the defense gives him, he tries to create sh*t too much.

He\'s an emulation and a very poor one at that. Kobe fans should take that as a compliment and move on.
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