Jul 31 - Brooklyn O.G. Discredits Jay-Z’s Past

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 07-31-2007, 10:39 AM         #1
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Jul 31 - Brooklyn O.G. Discredits Jay-Z’s Past
 

 
During the ‘80s and early ‘90s in Brooklyn, one of the names ringing in the streets was Calvin “Klein” Bacote. Not to be confused with the fashion designer. This is the man that most would recognize the name from Jay-Z’s Allure, “I never felt more alive/ than ridin’ shotgun in Klein’s green five.”

Recently released from prison, after spending his last 13 years locked up on drug charges; Bacote is determined to hit the streets hard. From working with DJ Clark Kent on a new mixtape series Streets is Talking; starting his own label, Shut Em Down Entertainment (currently with acts such as Natural and St. Laz); to being Akon's tour manager.

Klein was recently on Kay Slay’s Shade45 radio show and discussed some interesting issues about fellow Brooklynite, Jay-Z.

You were afilliated with, you were partners with Jay-Z early in his career?

“Don’t go partners. That’s a little too much for dude. To give him that in the 80’s that’s like way too much … I mean back then, he was in line. He was a soldier” Klein responded. “In the 80’s … Jay was not trying to be a drug dealer, he was trying to be a rapper. In order for him to transcend himself into this hell of a dude, he had to take characters of guys from the 80’s; one being myself.”

So this is one of those stories of rappers not speaking about real life and they’re speaking about someone else’s life?

“I mean I give him 10% of his life he talked about … He’s from Brooklyn. He lived in Marcy Projects. His name was Shawn Carter. He got that right”
“You see James Brown getting royalties for people sampling him right? I want royalties from you sampling me now,” Klein said then proceeded to repeat Jay’s line from Allue. “He was humble about it. He gotta realize you can’t just live the next person’s life without acknowledging ‘em when they come home.” [So he did pay homage?] “Yea he had to.”

I know you did a little bid. How long you been down?

“I did 13 years, a little over 13 years. I caught a case with Jay in ’89. We caught attempt murder case in 89’. I took the weight of the case. If that wasn’t the case you probably wouldn’t have heard of Jay before. I mean then after that he testified on my behalf. The case went to 40 years down to 4 years. I got out on appeal bail. Then after that I was on federal investigation.”

“Jay pretty much told me to fall back like ‘Yo, I got you’. Words like that coming from a person of that caliber, you really are gonna fall back and by doing that I blocked my blessings and didn’t allow any other gifts to come in … I made the mistake of coming back too humble because of all the trials that were going on like the Irv Gotti situation and Supreme’s. People weren’t used to seeing me so humble. Maybe if I came home and put my foots on Jay’s neck, maybe I would have been cutting the check to him.”

He [Jay] has built this image of being a hustler, which a lot of people respect that. How can you negate that?

“To me Jay‘s a white boy on the inside, no offense to any white boys. But to me he’s a white boy on the inside and I’m only waiting for time to tell what he’s gonna do with the outside of himself … I’m surprised he should have done himself a favor by pulling me into his his team. How you gon let Akon pull me in, official Konvict … Akon provided the chance and an opportunity for guys like myself, to be in the position I’m in. Jay could have done that out the gate but he didn’t.”

Do you feel any animosity towards him [Jay]?

“There is no animosity, because if I came up here with animosity, it wouldn’t look right. If I had animosity it would only be ‘cause I’m broke and that’s not the case ... I approached him at the set of the Young Jeezy and Akon ‘Soul Survivor’ video, went to Jeezy’s trailer to go talk to him and 30 seconds after the conversation he left … I don’t wanna give Jay or anybody the impression that Jay is scared … let’s just put it like this, I don’t think he’s gonna respond. He better not.”

Would you be open to negotiating During the Jay-Z and Nas beef, Klein did an interview with Don Diva Magazine, where he shouts Jay’s name and giving him his credibility. What happened?

“My case was up under appeal at the time and I took a chance when I did the interview in Don Diva for Jay, Nas ruined him and his credibility was shot, he had none … He was startled himself by Nas exposing himself the way he did. Jay’s confidence level was zero; his confidence level was a wrap … He had to realize how strong I was even from the inside and you can’t be serious enough to not realize how strong I am out here?”

So when they came to you…

“Yea I spoke to Clark Kent. I heard the song while I was locked up. I was like wow, the song holds so much truth to it. It was ridiculous. I was like how Nas could get so much information on him like that. I made the phone call to DJ Clark Kent in New York and he said, ‘Yo, if he never needed you before he needs you now.’ I reached out to Kevin Childs and Don Diva and did the interview. I said a few words that gave Jay a little credibility, but once he got that back … he got worse! How can you ignore Jaz-O? Jaz-O is the originator of your heart. He opened up every door that you can think off; he provided every opportunity you can imagine.”

You just want the audience to know what from the situation?

“Take the story. Take his part and you take mine. He told his story already in rhyme; so if he say anything now it’s just gonna contradict himself and make himself look stupid. That’s why I told you, he can’t respond. His press people are gonna say ‘no comment.’”


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61 comments for "Jul 31 - Brooklyn O.G. Discredits Jay-Z’s Past"

 11 years ago '06        #2
elmonto 
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does not surprise me one bit, most rappers lie about their backgrounds to make themselves marketable anyway.
 11 years ago '04        #3
youngmec 
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sounds like a bitter ole bi*ch to me. And if he's Akon's tour manager, why the fu*k can't he keep ole boy out of trouble.
 11 years ago '05        #4
A-N-D-1 177 heat pts177
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 Danja2Society said:
“Take the story. Take his part and you take mine. He told his story already in rhyme; so if he say anything now it’s just gonna contradict himself and make himself look stupid. That’s why I told you, he can’t respond. His press people are gonna say ‘no comment.’”
Calvin had a couple contradictions in the interview but it is what it is. I wasn't around either one so within their hearts they both know the true story. But Jay wouldn't necessarily contradict himself by responding. Plus you know Jay is always careful with his words so he would probally speak in a way that he would avoid contradiction. Most n*ggas fom Bk know the stories or have heard a version or 2!!!


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 11 years ago '05        #5
T.I.G. 
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hatin on success the man made it turn that negative energy into positive and he can make it to
 11 years ago '07        #6
snookd08 
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Like they say there are two sides to every story. Jay-z status is already in stone one interview can't destroy that.
 07-31-2007, 11:08 AM         #7
durdysoufpleya  OP
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pretty much everyone lies about their background, and pretyt much everyone tries to discredit them.
pretty standard.
 07-31-2007, 11:32 AM         #8
Hurricane24  OP
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who the fu*k is calvin bacote? he's a nobody i would go say some sh*t about jay-z too if i was a nobody and it will give a moment in the spotlight, sh*t give me a million bucks i'll go on the national radio and say sadaam hussien was an alright guy
 11 years ago '07        #9
Jiraiya 132 heat pts132
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exposed....we all kno the real g was memphis bleek...
 11 years ago '05        #10
chrismb 633 heat pts633
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you're 13 years too late, hes already a multi millionaire entrepreneur...you think this nobody gonna affect jay?
 07-31-2007, 12:02 PM         #11
$h0wtym3  OP
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if i was locked up for 13 yrs id be a bitter old man too
 11 years ago '07        #12
KnicksLost 17 heat pts17
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 Hurricane24 said:
who the fu*k is calvin bacote? he's a nobody i would go say some sh*t about jay-z too if i was a nobody and it will give a moment in the spotlight, sh*t give me a million bucks i'll go on the national radio and say sadaam hussien was an alright guy
...fu*k is u talkin about but jay always came off as a slimeball to me not directly like diddy did but more so behind the scene's n*gga tried to sabotage R. kelly's career during a fu*ked up time so I wouldn't put nothing past Jigga
 11 years ago '05        #13
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 LBThrizzy said:
lol "who the fu*k is calvin bacote"

cal klein is a legend in the streets..

"never felt more alive then ridin shot gun in klein's green 5"
-jay; allure
a legend? n*ggas know him because of jay-z that doesnt qualify as a legend, now jay-z is a legend on the other hand
 07-31-2007, 01:16 PM         #14
PaineBishop  OP
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Jay-Z's "Street Cred" damaged...Like it matters
 11 years ago '06        #15
marcusaka50 59 heat pts59
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If its true or not he can't stop Jay from getting money and Jay can't stop Calvin from getting money so at the end of the day you felt like Jay played you fu*k'em and do your thang. He didn't have to go on air and say what he said about Jay true or not because it aint gonna change nothing. Like my mother say can't nobody treat you like you treat yourself.
 07-31-2007, 01:30 PM         #16
Don Peru  OP
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I heard Jay-Z brought a Camel and named him "Killa Cam"
 11 years ago '05        #17
hustlehard365 
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“I did 13 years, a little over 13 years. I caught a case with Jay in ’89. We caught attempt murder case in 89’. I took the weight of the case. If that wasn’t the case you probably wouldn’t have heard of Jay before. I mean then after that he testified on my behalf. The case went to 40 years down to 4 years. I got out on appeal bail. Then after that I was on federal investigation.”

if he caught a case with you especially attempted murda how u gonna sit here now and say dude aint gangsta jay dont even rap about that sh*t.. even in that song rumors by maino he says jay-z is a scary dude...how many times u heard jay gettin jacked in marcy..how many n*ggaz out there in maybach and that sh*t is still there..just face it the man is loved and respected klein just mad that jigga aint put him on
 11 years ago '04        #18
StabMasterArson 
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another one mad at jay-z
 11 years ago '04        #19
H.N.I.C. 
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huh he spoke of the truth's in ether like no one knew jay looked like a camel ...jay's at the level now where street cred has no effect on his career or status at all so its pretty much a waste of time to discredit it at this point
 07-31-2007, 02:11 PM         #20
CenterField  OP
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fu*k that n*gga
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