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That makes sense then, should of hit a.ss with a next question. Close practice would def make sense the media will always try and push your buttons. ALWAYS. The way he reacted though definitely shows a certain amount of pressure on him imo. I don't blame him for reacting like that or possibly feeling the pressure but as you said just close off the damn practices. Everybody got a job to do. Man we better be ready to beat Cal a.ss Saturday bro. Next game can't come fast enough.

I want to see the sugar shared a little bit, you would think 2 & 9 are our only good receivers the way we force feed em. We need that Chip on our shoulder again. If it got a little lighter because of all the hype then ok but that sh*t should feel like a mountain right about now. Just like in fall camp the D is holding us down. O is playing catch up. fu*k unfinished business. My personal motto is No More L's In 2012 gotdammit
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Didn't expect them to bump & trail...fml


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Morgan Beaslin lineman of the week
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the dline this season

Breslin & Williams

as soon as teams stop double teaming Antwaun Woods, he will get in on the sack action too
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Speaking of Woods


Wtf is going on With Robert. Why can't we find him??
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 USC said:
Speaking of Woods


Wtf is going on With Robert. Why can't we find him??
either the ankle is still bothering him or the team is being overcautious... Kiffin said he hasn't practiced a full week all season.

am guessing overcautious because he looks faster than last year

his routes and blocking have become lazy this season.... maybe its a mental thing with him not being the go to guy that's throwing him off
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Also Lee used to be money on the deep passes....wtf is going on with him and the drops

besides that........

even with the drops I think Lane should put Lee back in his old role with being the deep threat and leaving Woods to handle the short yard passes... because the new roles aren't working this season and the passing game is predictable
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As long as we run the ball. We'll make it through these upcoming games no problem. But before its said and done we are going to need him big. Even if Lee is a monster Woods should still be our primary. Something is missing with 2.

Maybe you right about him not liking to take a backseat. Looking at him so far the ankle looks fine. May not be the case but I miss my old #2. He's looking discouraged almost. I'm calling a monster game for him against Utah.
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Lee was a ghost this time last year pretty much. Woods was our everything out there. Watch it be the reverse this year. Yeah Lee been dropping a lot of balls but I was never to sure about his hands like that anyway. Woods got them hands. Lee still a developing WR just a super athlete.

But we need to run run run run run and run some more.

I want to see Soma Buck Silas Curtis Morgan. Everybody


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I want to see what Buck can do...... seems Lane has 0 confidence in the guy.... when the backs went down in the Stanford game he moved Soma to TB and brought in Pinner for FB
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USCFootball.com War Room Post - September 28th, 2012 Reply

Welcome back to the War Room. I'll begin the session with the ground rules so everyone knows what we are doing here. Everything that is reported in the War Room must stay in the War Room and can be talked about in The Peristyle. Sometimes the info is sensitive enough that it simply does not need to be passed on beyond the doors of this thread.

This is a special feature for subscribers only. The reason why it is posted on the premium board is because it's the only way to ensure that the info stays exclusive to Trojan fans. This will only work if everyone helps make it work and so far we haven't had any problems.

In our bye week edition of the War Room we talk about uncommitted five-star prospects potentially visiting USC, the Trojan coaching staff hitting the recruiting trail and a couple of positive developments during the downtime.

Let's get down to it…

Ramsey visits Florida

Thursday's story on Jalen Ramsey's covered most of the nuances of his official visit to Florida, and while the five-star cornerback re-affirmed his commitment to USC, there is still apprehension about his recruitment among Trojan fans. The buzz in the Southeast is that Ramsey's family is second guessing his decision to leave home for college. Alabama does have a coaching connection with Ramsey's father, which is likely where the rumors stem from.

However, Ramsey's father was quick to disregard those rumors, stating that Jalen's decision would be his own. The Ramsey family has been very cognizant of how out of control recruiting can become in the Southeast. Ramsey's commitment announcement was by invite only. A smart move seeing the hate Tennessee fans still have for Lane Kiffin.

Bottom line, Ramsey means it when he says he loves USC. That could change at some point during the process, as he will continue to take official visits throughout the year. USC will have to continue to recruit Ramsey, but if he wavers, it should be obvious to the coaching staff.

One tidbit omitted from Thursday's Ramsey report was the time he spent hanging out with Seffner (Fla.) five-star safety Leon McQuay III. Ramsey and McQuay discussed USC while at The Swamp last Saturday. From what we gather, the conversation was very positive for USC. Of course, that should be expected. McQuay was ready to commit to USC on his unofficial visit three weeks ago, but his father is encouraging him to take all of his visits before making a final decision. Note, the word "encouraging" can be read as a euphemism. USC will try to secure McQuay's final trip as if he was a commit. McQuay will graduate in December, so no signing day drama here. Maybe some Christmas drama, however.

Coaches hit the trail

USC will be out to see Ramsey next week, but the Trojan a.ssistant coaches saw several other commits and top targets this week in states like Maryland, Texas, Georgia, Kentucky and Florida. Most of these visits are for academic purposes. USC was keen to check in on four-star receiver Eldridge Massington to make sure he is on track to graduate early form West Mesquite High School as planned. That could end up being a significant sticking point.

USC also dropped in on Eastern Christian Academy to visit with Khaliel Rodgers and Kenny Bigelow. Like Massington, Bigelow is slated to graduate in December. With Eastern Christian Academy conducting most of its courses online, USC has to double check to make sure all classes meet NCAA standards.

But enough of the players already committed. Recruitniks are all about the next big thing, which is the possibility of another five-star kaboom. A few interesting names setting up official visits with USC are Alpharetta (Ga.) five-star defensive end Carl Lawson, Vienna (Ga.) five-star defensive tackle Montravuis Adams, Fort Worth (Texas) five-star defensive tackle A'Shawn Robinson and Immokalee (Fla.) four-star cornerback Mackensie Alexander. All have been in contact with USC in recent weeks.

Also, don't be surprised if USC still entertains an official visit from Tampa (Fla.) five-star cornerback Vernon Hargreaves. Some of these visits will need to be vetted by the staff, as Lane Kiffin does not have time to spin his wheels on recruits with no intentions of considering USC. Hargreaves committed to Florida, stating he wanted to stay closer to home. Last time we checked, Los Angeles hasn't crept any closer to Tampa in the last three months.

Some other recruits, like Loganville (Ga.) five-star defensive end Robert Nkemdiche and Autauga (Ala.) five-star tight end O.J. Howard have spoken publicly about visiting USC, but sources are doubtful the trips ever happen. Right now, many recruits are calling USC to set up an official visit for Nov. 3, but it still doesn't appear the staff wants to schedule any visits for that week. Quite frankly, scheduling visits after the season separates those recruits serious about researching USC from those just looking for a free trip to a big game.

Who wants to visit?

Here's a tentative list of players expressing interest in officially visiting USC. Dates are subject to change. Note, Rancho Cucamonga (Calif.) four-star safety Tahaan Goodman remains high on USC, but he states he does not want to visit USC or UCLA officially.

QB
Commits: Max Browne (Dec. 14)

RB
Commits: Justin Davis (Dec. 14), Ty Isaac (Dec. 14)

WR
Commits: Steven Mitchell (TBA), Eldridge Massington (Dec. 7), Sebastian LaRue (TBA)

OL
Commits: Nico Falah (TBA), Khaliel Rogers (Dec. 14)
Targets: Laremy Tunsil (TBA)

DL
Commits: Kenny Bigelow (Dec. 14), Eddie Vanderdoes (TBA), Kylie Fitts (Dec. 7), Jason Hatcher (TBA), Torrodeny Prevot (TBA)
Targets: Montravius Adams (TBA), Carl Lawson (TBA), Derrick Calloway (TBA), Tim Williams (TBA), Keith Bryant (TBA), A'Shawn Robinson (TBA)

LB
Commits: Michael Hutchings (TBA)
Targets: Matthew Thomas (TBA), Trey Johnson (TBA)

DB
Commits: Chris Hawkins (Dec. 14), Su'a Cravens (Dec. 14), Max Redfield (TBA), Jalen Ramsey (TBA)
Targets: Leon McQuay III (TBA), Mackensie Alexander (TBA)

Happy To Have Horton

With all the talk about the emergence of the USC defensive line, Morgan Breslin and Leonard Williams have been getting much of the attention. Don't discount the importance of others though, especially Wes Horton, who was finally back to full-strength Saturday. Kiffin raved about his performance and Horton received a big compliment from USC offensive tackle Max Tuerk.

When asked which d-lineman is the most difficult to block, Tuerk immediately answered "Wes Horton." Why? "Because he's really, really good."

Baucham Update

While details about the very nature of Brian Baucham's status remain uncertain, sources have shed light on a couple of things: Baucham did indeed suffer a head injury, the severity of which is still rather unknown. Also, Baucham had been f!ghting pneumonia at the time of the game. Sources indicated that might have been a factor in him needing a respirator.

Downside of the injury news blackout

As much as we understand the potential competitive disadvantage when one team gives out injury information and its opponent does not, there are issues for everybody when there's a total blackout on talking about injuries.

For example, there really hasn't been the kind of discussion and praise, or even all that much awareness, of what it took Trojans Khaled Holmes and Andre Heidari to get themselves back for the Cal game in record time. Heidari after surgery, many said, could be out "four to six weeks." For Holmes, the ante was upped to "six to eight" maybe. Both made those predictions a joke.

But since no one talks injuries, they did so kind of under the radar, or as under the radar as the guy who came back to kick two field goals from 40 or more yards in two tries despite an elastic sleeve on his right leg and a limp in his walk -- and no practice with his teammates, could possibly do. Heidari just showed up, after a tremendous rehab effort, and kicked, even adjusting perfectly on a snap that hit the ground.

And there was Holmes, rallying the offensive line to lead the way to 296 ground yards against Cal. Played until they had to help him off again dragging his ankle. Unbelievable effort. And yet since he's not around to talk, and no one can talk about what he really had to overcome, it's a "storyline" you're not likely to hear or read. And that is too bad.

But the other side of this might be even worse. We get questions all the time from people a.ssuming that if a starter is no longer starting, and there's no reason listed, then maybe he was beaten out for his spot or even worse -- did something to get demoted or is on his way out or whatever people with no news decide to just fill in with their imagination.

Doesn't seem fair to a player who through no fault of his own, is injured and/or not involved in this week's gameplan even if he is still tops on the depth chart, and no note can be made of his disappearance from the lineup.

USC needs a policy here for these things. One blanket rule just doesn't get the job done whether media is at practice or not.

Speaking of saying something good . . .

How about the effort of Abe Markowitz in his first-ever college start for USC in his five years here. Coming off a situation the week before that can't be discussed and had him not practicing and cleared only for emergency duty at Stanford, Abe finally got his start at left guard against Cal and graded out, although he wouldn't tell us but we learned anyway, at a nifty 97.

And even better, for the first time this entire season, we heard a USC coach, the USC coach actually, talking about "pad level" in a positive way for a Trojans player. Doesn't get any better than that.

Say what?

OK, we'll preview this bye week's "Just Askin' " Friday column with a question from Thursday night football -- and we're not talking the return of the regular NFL refs.

But really, who knew that you could beat Stanford by playing fast and aggressive? Who could have possibly figured that out? OK, Oregon maybe, but Washington, too? How did they know that?

Wonder if it would have worked for anybody else? Naw, too crazy. Forget that. Sorry we brought it up.

The power of USC . . . not UC

Once again, Virginia Tech is taking a game to FedEx Field this weekend. This time, an independent promoter actually bought the University of Cincinnati home game with the Hokies, paying the Bearcats a cool $3.5 million to move it out of Cincinnati to DC.

But UC isn't exactly a USC-quality draw, not the way the Trojans were when the original FedEx Field game was set up in 2004. That marquee USC team attracted an impressive 91,665 to the Redskins' stadium.

The story is much different this week. They've sold just 38,000 tickets for the VaTech-UC game and someone is about to take a financial bath.

Just because you asked

For the folks who so often ask us where the best, most thorough listing of weekly Division I college football television information can be found, well, we've found it. The National Football Foundation every Thursday publishes on its Website as complete a listing of college TV game info as we've seen at Week 5 NCAA TV Football Schedule and you'll find 107 games listed with starting times, all broadcast info, if any, and the talent doing the game.


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USCFootball.com War Room Post - October 5th, 2012 Reply

Welcome back to the War Room. I'll begin the session with the ground rules so everyone knows what we are doing here. Everything that is reported in the War Room must stay in the War Room and can be talked about in The Peristyle. Sometimes the info is sensitive enough that it simply does not need to be passed on beyond the doors of this thread.

This is a special feature for subscribers only. The reason why it is posted on the premium board is because it's the only way to ensure that the info stays exclusive to Trojan fans. This will only work if everyone helps make it work and so far we haven't had any problems.

The Trojans survived their trip to Salt Lake City. In this post-Thursday night football edition of the War Room we get inside the game, get updates on the hot recruiting topics and plenty more.

Let's get down to it…

Hatcher visiting Ohio State

Louisville (Ky.) four-star defensive end Jason Hatcher will officially visit Ohio State this weekend with Nebraska in town. USC visited Hatcher last week when a.ssistant coach Tee Martin was in town. Hatcher just recently began considering Ohio State, listing other visit destinations as Florida, Louisville and Tennessee. From what we gather, Hatcher is still pretty solid on USC, despite local pressure to stay home and play for Louisville.

Hatcher's mom will play a role in his ultimate decision, and she has yet to visit USC. However, sources say that mom is fine with him leaving home and family pressure to play at Louisville will not affect Hatcher's commitment. This will be Hatcher's first official visit, but his last will be with USC in January.

Commits taking visits

Several USC commits will be taking visits, but it appears none will end up officially visiting UCLA or Oregon. Both schools have stated they will not entertain visits from commits, with Jim Mora specifically stating he will not even welcome USC commits on unofficial visits.

The strategy, according to one high school coach who has spoken to UCLA about the policy, is to actually keep top juniors from committing to USC early. This year's class is a foregone conclusion, and it would be futile for UCLA to attempt to compete for USC commits. Instead, the Bruins would like to give juniors a reason not to commit early to USC, stalling any momentum Lane Kiffin may have coming off this season.

Regardless of handle UCLA and Oregon visits, it appears very few of the Trojan's early enrollees will be taking official visits this year to a school other than USC. That includes, Kylie Fitts, Ty Isaac, Su'a Cravens, Max Browne and Eldridge Massington. While Kenny Bigelow did express interest in taking official visits last summer, he now doubts he will take any visits beyond his trip to USC in January. Bigelow and teammate Khaliel Rodgers both plan on unofficially visit USC Nov. 3 for the Oregon game.

Who wants to visit?

Here's a tentative list of players expressing interest in officially visiting USC. Dates are subject to change. Note, Rancho Cucamonga (Calif.) four-star safety Tahaan Goodman remains high on USC, but he states he does not want to visit USC or UCLA officially.

QB
Commits: Max Browne (Dec. 14)

RB
Commits: Justin Davis (Dec. 14), Ty Isaac (Dec. 14)

WR
Commits: Steven Mitchell (TBA), Eldridge Massington (Dec. 7), Sebastian LaRue (TBA)

OL
Commits: Nico Falah (TBA), Khaliel Rogers (Dec. 14)
Targets: Laremy Tunsil (TBA)

DL
Commits: Kenny Bigelow (Dec. 14), Eddie Vanderdoes (TBA), Kylie Fitts (Dec. 7), Jason Hatcher (TBA), Torrodeny Prevot (TBA)
Targets: Montravius Adams (TBA), Carl Lawson (TBA), Derrick Calloway (TBA), Tim Williams (TBA), Keith Bryant (TBA), A'Shawn Robinson (TBA)

LB
Commits: Michael Hutchings (TBA)
Targets: Matthew Thomas (TBA), Trey Johnson (TBA)

DB
Commits: Chris Hawkins (Dec. 14), Su'a Cravens (Dec. 14), Max Redfield (TBA), Jalen Ramsey (TBA)
Targets: Leon McQuay III (TBA), Mackensie Alexander (TBA)

Another linebacker?

Narbonne High School out of Harbor City is a powerhouse program this season. One prospect that has been earning plenty of attention is 2013 three-star linebacker Keishawn Bierria. The 6-foot-1, 212-pounder has scored a touchdown in his last two games against Serra and Mater Dei, forced turnovers, made big hits and generally created havoc.

Former USC defensive back Darrell Rideaux said that Bierria is the best outside linebacker in high school.

Last Friday when Narbonne hosted Mater Dei USC linebacker coach Scottie Hazelton was roaming the sidelines checking out the action. He had his hand held video camera and appeared to be focusing in on Bierria whenever he was on the field.

While this class of 2013 looks to be full for all intents and purposes, recruiting never stops and Bierria is someone, according to our sources, that the Trojans still have interest in following.

Samoa . . . Saudi Arabia . . . see sons play

Their sons play the same position for the Trojans. Both are centers. But the similarities don't end there. Both Khaled Holmes and Abe Markowitz are fifth-year graduate students. And the dads, Mike Holmes and Barry Markowitz, both played college football themselves -- Mike as a Michigan defensive end and Barry as a UCLA linebacker.

But that wasn't what drew the dads together, although they were a world apart Thursday. Both were figuring out ways to watch their sons play in different ends of the world. You see, Mike is working in Saudi Arabia and was watching Khaled on his Slingbox.

While Barry, doing a documentary on the tuna fishing industry in his role as a professional photographer, was out in the middle of the Pacific in American Samoa at the Malui Mai Resort and able to catch the game on cable.

As a part of the gig, Barry was visiting with the staff of the Governor of American Samoa, where Abe is a citizen. As Barry stopped by to say "Hi," he bumped into the Governor's body guard, who greeted him with: "What the heck happened at Stanford?"

Just spell it right . . . It's USC

For those who worry that USC is slipping into irrelevancy out of the Top 10 these days, a quick look this week at SI.com's college football section says differently. Just check out SI's "Truth and Rumors" section of three items the first of the week and lo and behold, two of the three -- for the entire nation -- are about USC: 1) USC could benefit, not suffer, from NFL in LA; 2) USC mum on possible critical injury; and 3) (the one for all the rest of college football, we might note) Alabama relishing "get well" week.

Barkley's arm 'back'?

Mind you this was the same day SI's Andy Staples had a piece on how Matt Barkley is hanging in there and, numbers or not, is doing the right thing for himself in his return season no matter what. Which gets us to our next point here. How many on the P, and just in emails and comments not posted, were sure there was something wrong with Barkley's arm. Had to be, they said.

And then along came Thursday night's Utah game when ball after ball was perfectly delivered on target -- fast balls, touch passes, seam strikes to tight ends and then that 83-yard bomb to Marqise Lee, the longest pass and catch in both players' college careers. That one looked like it traveled 60 yards in the air and was dead on the money.

Barkley had no idea after the game when Lane Kiffin informed him that was his longest TD pass ever at USC. "What about the one to Robert (Woods) last year?" he asked. "That was 82 yards (in the Arizona game)," Kiffin said. "Wow," Barkley responded. He clearly had no idea he'd broken his record.

Running to the football

Those of you who would like to see USC run to the football even more on defense than the Trojans have, as much as they've picked up there this season, can look at Nickell Robey's Pick-Six Thursday as more evidence that a USC team on the move is a dangerous team. But a team standing around hoping to be in the right place, well, not so much.

Robey admitted that he started running on the fourth-quarter play where he anticipated the overthrown screen pass would be delivered when he saw defensive end Morgan Breslin speeding up the Utah quarterback's release with his pass rush and mimicked Breslin's acceleration and pursuit angle in the secondary. "I read that and sped up," Robey said of his first interception this season, to where he thought the ball would have to be delivered.

How'd that work out?

From USC rusher's wife . . . to Rush

Here's a little look into the possible future of football, and its past, from a great USC running back through his wife, both interested in head injuries and helmet protection issues -- and Rush Limbaugh.

This is the transcript of a call that aired last Friday, alerted to us by former USC lineman Ron Fletcher (1954-56), who was on top of recognizing where this football commentary was coming from. But first the lead-in from Limbaugh, who is convinced there will be a movement soon to ban football.

RUSH: I don't know when it was that I first predicted to you that somebody was gonna' come along and suggest that football be banned. Yesterday, in leisure time, I'm reading a bunch of Apple blogs trying to figure out what's going on in the high-tech world . . . and I've got a story: "What Would the End of Football Look Like?" It prints out to eight pages, and it's on a tech blog. Not a sports blog. Not a news blog. It's on a tech blog, which is populated by young liberals.
"The NFL is done for the year, but it is not pure fantasy to suggest that it may be done for good in the not-too-distant future. How might such a doomsday scenario play out and what would be the economic and social consequences?" They go on and describe what's gonna' bring football down is all of these lawsuits over concussions and injuries, and this guy predicts once we have the suicide of a high school football player, that's gonna' be the beginning of the end. Then the parents aren't gonna' let their kids play.
Then will come the lawsuits against the helmet-makers and the coaches and the trainers, and then it's gonna' be over . . . I can guarantee you this is going to happen. There are going to be lawsuits . . . From the time they start playing Pop Warner all the way up to the NFL, if they make it. They are victims of a brutish culture led by the American people who want to see brutal hits and injuries every Sunday. You watch. It's closer than you think . . . "What happens if the lawsuits fail?" Well, I don't know what happens, but they all aren't gonna' fail. One of them is gonna' win. There are so many of them that one of them is going to win. There's a giant one now, a class-action suit with now over a thousand NFL players, but there are smaller ones.

But that's not this guy's point. His point is: When a high school player, because of too many hits to the head, takes his own life and they can say it's because of concussions -- or alleged it is . . . Or a college player not "dies because of an accident on the field," but commits suicide because of it . . . My point with this is just that I know who these people are, and now that this is being speculated about on a tech blog, wait 'til the forerunners of the liberal sports media get hold of it. Even though their bread is buttered with this stuff, I know these people.

Some of them are leading the charge and don't even know it with the way they're covering the sport. Some of them are leading the charge for getting the game banned and they don't even know it! By the way they're covering it. They're demanding this and demanding all these new safety features, safety regulations, safety rules. Empowering the government to police the game. They're begging for it, and they don't even realize it. They, in their naivete, think they're working hard to make the game safer and so forth, and all they're doing is paving the way for the game to be banned.
They don't even know it.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
And now for the USC connection here.
RUSH: Jane (Ed. note: wife of USC's 1955 All-American running back Jon Arnett) in Lake Oswego, Oregon. Jane, great to have you on the program. Welcome to Open Line Friday.
CALLER: Thank you, Rush. I have to tell you that my husband has been a fan of yours since you were operating out of Sacramento. He listens to you regularly, and I can't tell you how many times he's wanted to pick up the phone and applaud you and add thoughts and so forth. He is a ten-year NFL vet, played in the fifties and the sixties, went to USC where he was a running back.
RUSH: Let me tell you something about the NFL in the fifties and sixties. I mean it's brutal today, there's no question, but back then, clotheslining, for example, was legal. The equipment was not nearly what it is today. People like your husband played that game, and -- as brutal as it is today, it was more so back then, I believe.
CALLER: Well, I think you're absolutely right. And I have to tell you, these are some of the toughest guys around. In fact, one of my favorite pictures of Jon is a picture where "Night Train" Lane is clotheslining him. In fact, it's one of his favorite pictures. He looks at that and says, "Yeah, he was awfully tough." I mean, that's the attitude that they had back then. It's great to hear these guys get together, too, and reminisce because they laugh about it.
RUSH: She's exactly right. The average human being wouldn't last one play on the offensive line out -- those guys are so tough, the average person wouldn't last. And you're right. I mean Chuck Bednarik beat the hell out of Chuck Noll one year. Look what he did to Frank Gifford back in fifties with a huge hit. I mean, Gifford was knocked cold for weeks. It's a game now that's under attack, Jane, and I'm telling you, there are well-intentioned liberals that think it's too risky and too dangerous, and they're going to try to change it, I guarantee you. And the liberal sports media doesn't realize it, but they're helping pave the way for it by the way they're covering all this.
CALLER: They are. And I understand your point on that, and I have to tell you, though, that I was not married to Jon -- I'm a little bit younger than he is -- was not married to Jon when he played but we've been together about 30 years, and it was when "Night Train" passed away, when I heard that there was not enough money to bury him and that he had been struggling. And I think that most people today do not realize that the guys back then didn't make enough money to live on year round.
RUSH: I know, they had jobs in the off season. Full-time jobs in the off season. Their careers nevertheless ended at the same time these guys' careers do. It's never been a lifetime career, either . . .
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"Who could challenge Clemson commitment Robert Nkemdiche for the coveted No. 1 slot in the country? The answer is easy: Max Browne.

The 6-foot-5, 215-pounder has a feel for the game that is rarely seen at the high school level. After throwing 13 interceptions as a sophomore and just seven last year, Browne has thrown only two picks this season while amassing nearly 1,400 yards and 13 touchdowns.

Completion percentage and turnover ratio are the two biggest factors scouts look for when it comes to quarterbacks, two attributes now much more important than size or arm strength. Browne has completed nearly 70-percent of his high school passes and thrown 109 touchdowns against only 22 picks.

Browne is currently ranked No. 10 overall in the country, but he plays the most important position in football and if he continues to be a surgeon on the field, he could be the first pro-style quarterback since Jimmy Clausen in 2007 to top the charts." from SI
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Kitt Not It

Tyrone (Ga.) junior wide out Demarre Kitt decommitted from Georgia Thursday, saying, "I just think I did it too early. Schools are recruiting me hard and I want to give them a shot." USC was mentioned by Kitt as a school of interest, but sources tell USCFootball.com that the Trojans may no longer be an option.

While USC did verbally offer Kitt a scholarship last May, Trojan a.ssistant coach Tee Martin made a visit to Sandy Creek High School during the bye week to see the junior star receiver in person. The buzz from that evaluation has USC going in a different direction for 2014 wide outs. With so much early hype around recruits these days, verbal offers are simply a bookmark for schools trying to make an impression with players who may end up being big time prospects.

The wide out class of 2014 will be very important for USC. The Trojans will be losing Robert Woods and possibly Marquise Lee, so Lane Kiffin will look to hit at least one home run. The more accolades Woods and Lee get, the more receivers will want to look at USC. It's also important to note that USC already has two top quarterback prospects lined up for the future in five-star Max Browne and 2015 commit David Sills. That's another plus in courting a top wide out for 2014, so USC will be very picky. At this point, Kitt was the only receiver USC had offered a verbal scholarship to in the 2014 class.

South Bend but don't break

USC commits Chris Hawkins and Max Redfield will both officially visit Notre Dame this weekend as the Stanford Cardinal come to town. As usual, Brian Kelly has decided to go feast or famine with recruiting trips. After inviting two dozen official visitors to South Bend for their game/debacle against USC last year, Notre Dame is making the Stanford week another recruiting extravaganza.

The Irish will only have three uncommitted players on hand Saturday with several committed recruits and underclassmen, including Oaks Christian 2014 quarterback Brandon Dawkins. Seeing that Stanford could very easily make Notre Dame look silly, the feeling in South Bend appears to be the Irish have nothing to lose with Redfield and Hawkins. Both are solid commits to USC, and it's plausible Hawkins will do a better job recruiting for the Trojans this weekend than the Notre Dame a.ssistant coaches will do for the Irish if Saturday's game doesn't go to plan.

Last weekend, Louisville (Ky.) four-star defensive end commit Jason Hatcher was scheduled to officially visit Ohio State, but he canceled that trip due to a work obligation. It was reported Smyrna (Tenn.) five-star cornerback commit Jalen Ramsey would unofficially visit Florida last weekend, but that visit was never planned according to his father. Needless to say, Ramsey was at home last weekend.

Husky commits could still get a look

While USC's 2013 class is pretty much finalized, don't expect Lane Kiffin to be naive enough to put all of his eggs in the baskets of his verbal commitments. USC is still recruiting several local prospects and it would not be a shock if the Trojans offered a couple of players late in the process. San Clemente (Calif.) three-star offensive lineman Sean Harlow is a player that continues to hear from USC despite being committed to Washington. Moreno Valley (Calif.) four-star wide out Demorea Stringfellow is another U-Dub commit that says he is still in communication with USC. Stringfellow was our No. 1 receiver prospect in California coming into the year, but he would now sit at No. 2 behind Alemany's Steven Mitchell, who has been phenomenal this season.

So yeah, beating the Huskies this weekend still has some recruiting ramifications for USC.

CHawk visits the Big C

Chris Hawkins officially visited Cal last weekend with his step brother, Armond. As we alluded to earlier in the week, the post visit scoop was that Cal was not a player for Chris. According to a source close to his recruitment, the trip was more about getting Armond some one-on one-time with Cal's coaches. For Chris, that one-on-one time was a waste of time. We've been told several times that the only way Hawkins does not end up at USC in January is if Lane Kiffin pulls his ride.

While USC has given no indication of backing off Hawkins, other schools have told other commits that Hawkins may be wavering from USC. The main negative pitch this year to USC commits has been that the Trojans will run out of rides and that will send the class into a tailspin. As an early enrollee, Hawkins doesn't have to worry about USC running out of rides on signing day.

Who wants to visit?

Here's a tentative list of players expressing interest in officially visiting USC. Dates are subject to change. Note, Rancho Cucamonga (Calif.) four-star safety Tahaan Goodman remains high on USC, but he states he does not want to visit USC or UCLA officially.

QB
Commits: Max Browne (Dec. 14)

RB
Commits: Justin Davis (Dec. 14), Ty Isaac (Dec. 7)

WR
Commits: Steven Mitchell (Feb. 2), Eldridge Massington (Dec. 7), Sebastian LaRue (TBA)

OL
Commits: Nico Falah (Feb. 2), Khaliel Rogers (Dec. 14)
Targets: Laremy Tunsil (TBA)

DL
Commits: Kenny Bigelow (Dec. 14), Eddie Vanderdoes (Feb. 2), Kylie Fitts (Dec. 7), Jason Hatcher (Feb. 2), Torrodeny Prevot (Feb. 2)
Targets: Montravius Adams (TBA), Carl Lawson (TBA), Derrick Calloway (TBA), Tim Williams (TBA), Keith Bryant (TBA), A'Shawn Robinson (TBA)

LB
Commits: Michael Hutchings (Feb. 2)
Targets: Matthew Thomas (TBA), Trey Johnson (Jan. 18)

DB
Commits: Chris Hawkins (Dec. 7), Su'a Cravens (Dec. 14), Max Redfield (Feb. 2), Jalen Ramsey (TBA)
Targets: Leon McQuay III (TBA), Mackensie Alexander (TBA)

Kennard Update

Devon Kennard's plans for the rest of the 2012 season and beyond are becoming much clearer. Though he says rehab is going well and the injured pectoral is improving, likely to the point he would be physically be able to play this season, It appears very likely he will redshirt. Indications are that Kennard has been given a lot of freedom by the coaches to have a large say in this.

This decision is one that should benefit both parties. USC has found surprising depth on its defensive line and Kennard's presence isn't as essential as it once seemed. With the emergence of Morgan Breslin and Wes Horton entrenched at his spot, Kennard would have a tough time cracking the starting lineup. Instead, he'll be the logical choice to step in for Horton next year and will have a full season to play and improve his NFL draft stock while providing veteran leadership to the D Line.

Banner Figure

One of the largest presences at USC practice of late, both literally and figuratively, is that of Lincoln Kennedy. For those familiar with his relationship with biological son Zach Banner, this may come as a surprise. Kennedy was almost completely absent from Banner's childhood and Banner has been hesitant in the past to even discuss Kennedy.

Though Banner has been blessed to have an ideal father-son relationship with his stepfather, it's nice to see that Kennedy is at least attempting to reconcile being absent from Banner's life for so long.

More on Kennedy and Banner later...

And the definition of a big game is . . .

It was just a throwaway line from Matt Barkley, after a few minutes of talking about big games, where they're played, and his first outing in Seattle after missing as a freshman with a knee injury when Aaron Corp got his lone start.

And sure, he likes the idea. His girlfriend plays college soccer in Seattle. The man who recruited him for USC, and started him as a freshman, Pete Carroll, coaches the Seahawks there. And he's never played there, alone of all the Pac-12 places to play.

But it's no big deal, Barkley kept saying. A game is a game. "Just another game to us," Barkley said Tuesday of the Washington game. "I'd be fine playing it in the parking lot."

So what would Barkley's definition of a big game, something that would make him think twice about it?

"The national championshp game," he said quietly. "It's the biggest game."

And that got us to thinking. What if . . . ?

What if after all those years, maybe three anyway, when USC had as good or better argument for making "the biggest game" as anyone and didn't, certainly in 2003 and 2008, and now . . . What if this year, when it looks like no way, no shot after the Stanford loss, there actually is one.

What if these Trojans, who have yet to play anything close to a full game deserving of a trip to the national title game, get there when it doesn't look like they would, could or should?

What if it all breaks the way it looks like it could? West Virginia can't negotiate the rest of a difficult five-game run through the Big 12? And USC gets Oregon twice at home as well as Notre Dame. And it just all falls into place.

And it's the rest of the college football world that understands how USC felt those years. Because this looks like one of those years where no team is all that good. Certainly none all that complete. No really finished product.

And the more we thought about Barkley's comment, the more we realized he's got it right. Because if USC doesn't start improving right now, this week in Seattle, and start getting off to good starts and finishing strong and not leaving points, and double-digit flags, all over the place, the Trojans can forget it.

So maybe it's a good thing to have Barkley thinking about what still might be. And what has to happen to make it be. And somehow it comes to USC at a time when the Trojans had just kind of given up thinking about it and talking about it.

Except for Barkley. Who clearly has not. But there it is, for the Trojans' taking. Right there, if they can run the table and take care of business.

CEO . . . unplugged

He is a great deal of fun, never forget it. Leaving Howard Jones Field Wednesday, Ed Orgeron noticed a gaggle of sports writers wearing, well maybe eight out of 10 of them anyway, shirts of varying shades of blue -- not one of CEO's favorite colors.

"Hey Tim [Tessalone], is this media light blue shirt day?" he called out to USC's sports information director. "Did I miss the memo?"

One memo we hope CEO hasn't missed is what's happening this weekend in Seattle -- the day after USC's game at Washington. Cortez Kennedy, one of CEO's early D-line pupils at Miami who credits Orgeron for getting him off to the start that put Kennedy in the NFL Hall of Fame, is having his jersey retired Sunday at the Seahawks game against New England.

Another Kennedy, this one Lincoln

Another top NFL lineman, Lincoln Kennedy, father of USC freshman Zach Banner, was saying the other day at practice how he realizes his son could be following the Fox sports talker (Sundays, 4-7 p.m. in LA on 570 AM) into a second profession as a media guy.

If there was any doubt, the voluble Banner resolved it with his strategizing of how he'd get an interview with the closed-mouth Morgan Breslin, whose personality he described "as the polar opposite" of his own.

"I'd ask him about what he's going to have for lunch," Banner said. "He'd see you were different. Just have a regular conversation with him."

It's something not many have had the experience, but Banner says he has. "Behind closed doors, he's a funny guy," Banner said, after getting to know Breslin, and nearly coming to blows, in the offense-defense drills that often matched them up.

It's KO time

You knew this was coming. So did we. Kevin O'Neill is here and talking Trojan basketball and saying some of the same kinds of things -- but with a much different-looking team. And no, the filter isn't exactly on. If KO thinks it, he says it.

* His team of nine transfers he describes as "a lot of guys (who) are in their second chances . . . and last chances." Himself included, although he's well past that "second chance" designation and much closer to the "last chance."

* KO has "14 guys I'd feel comfortable starting," he says, a year after going 6-26 with barely two who should have started at this level. "I've never had that before."

* He has three seven-footers on the roster. Not sure any other team in America can make that claim. But his late-arriving transfer from Rice, Egyptian native Omar Oraby, at 7-foot-2 and 270 pounds, would be among the seven biggest players (out of 455) in the NBA this season -- and he has a 7-foot-8 wingspan. And even better, he might be eligible if his NCAA transfer hardship waiver goes through although who knows if that will come through.

* Said if 7-foot Dewayne Dedmon doesn't continue to improve, Oraby could displace him. But if he does, the two could play together. "Absolutely,"

* Says Jio Fontan is 100 percent healthy after knee surgery and could be an NBA first-round pick if all goes well for the 6-foot senior point guard. Said that's exactly what he was the two games he played last year in Brazil before his knee injury. Says: "Every NBA guy knows about him."

* Says Eric Wise, the 6-foot-6 UCI transfer, has lost 45 pounds and at 232, is by far the team's best shooter in every situation.

* Which is saying something considering the two offensive hotshots who started college at Wake Forest -- 6-3 guard J.T. Terrell, a 24.4 scorer in junior college last year, and 6-7 Ari Stewart, who started at Wake as a freshman, have never met a shot they didn't like.

* Says Byron Wesley has come back much fitter and has firmed up his jump shot after a summer of hard work.

* As to whether the program is back, or could be, KO could not be more optimistic: "We have good players we've recruited, we have good players coming back, we at last have a nucleus to replace those two blank classes, I think we're there right now."

* But the Trojans have a schedule to match that includes Illinois, Texas and either North Carolina, Marquette, Michigan State or Butler in Maui, road games at Nebraska, New Mexico and Georgia and home games against San Diego State, Minnesota and Dayton. KO says "I think it'll help when we get to the Pac-12."

* And maybe help in another way: "It depends on whether you win or lose," KO says. "Your perception is weekly."


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