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 12 years ago '05        #126
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 RakimAllahNY said
Yeah Nas took an L and then went an worked for him. So Jay controls that n*gga's life. Never mind that Nas can NEVER talk about d*ck riding another rapper considering hes trying to jack Tupac every day of his life. At least Biggie n Jay were cool Tupac punked the sh*t out of Nas all day
You went from, Corey, to Rae, to 'Pac..
And Eminem would've murdered you on The Cross..

Nas was on Cormega...then got punked by him.
That whole Esco phase was wannabe Raekwon sh*t.
And pretty much everything else has been Tupac...who, as you said, punked him.

And the "Eminem murdered you on your own sh*t" line was always funny to me because the only reason Nas never got murdered by dude is because he refused to feature him. Reminds me of that story of Nas going to the studio to do a feature with some dudes, heard Pun's verse & left because he knew he couldn't come close to it.

 12 years ago '07        #127
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 Andre3000 said
EM=Coming of 2 bad albums its not looking 2 good for him

50=......

Jay=Retired so he could get some buzz back.

Puff=Nas last album sold more than his

Nelly=When the last time this n*gga was out

Luda=Last album barely went plat as well.


See, this is what i'm talking about. I said they are all succesful business men. Who da f**k cares about 50's album, his stock in a company he invested in was just bought out for $400+ million (cash transaction, no stock involved). You think Jay retired so he could get "buzz" for his next album??? You are an idiot. Who da f**k cares about Jay's next album.... Beyonce, 40-40, Roc-a-wear, IBM, Budweiser, Reebok, Cherry Coke, Def Jam.... are you sreious? Who cares about Puff's record sales... BadBoy, Sean John, Sean John Cologne, Burger King, Justin's, Acting.... are you serious? Even Applebottom & Pimp Juice is selling for Nelly. Luda been acting everywhere and just won a grammy.

In the climate of declining record sales, everyone gets money from multiple avenues.... i repeat, nas is still JUST an artist.

 06-09-2007, 03:27 PM         #128
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 CalcuoCuchicheo said
You went from, Corey, to Rae, to 'Pac..
And Eminem would've murdered you on The Cross..

Nas was on Cormega...then got punked by him.
That whole Esco phase was wannabe Raekwon sh*t.
And pretty much everything else has been Tupac...who, as you said, punked him.

And the "Eminem murdered you on your own sh*t" line was always funny to me because the only reason Nas never got murdered by dude is because he refused to feature him. Reminds me of that story of Nas going to the studio to do a feature with some dudes, heard Pun's verse & left because he knew he couldn't come close to it.
Nas beat Cormegas a.ss and had him reppin BK. And the whole Esco phrase was on some Mafia sh*t. I dont know if Nas coppied him but if u wanna put it that way then Big stole Nas style as well by biting his cover and his story telling style. And I dont know what Pun song u talkin bout but they have made music together and Nas IMO had teh better verse.

 06-09-2007, 03:32 PM         #129
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 stogz said
See, this is what i'm talking about. I said they are all succesful business men. Who da f**k cares about 50's album, his stock in a company he invested in was just bought out for $400+ million (cash transaction, no stock involved). You think Jay retired so he could get "buzz" for his next album??? You are an idiot. Who da f**k cares about Jay's next album.... Beyonce, 40-40, Roc-a-wear, IBM, Budweiser, Reebok, Cherry Coke, Def Jam.... are you sreious? Who cares about Puff's record sales... BadBoy, Sean John, Sean John Cologne, Burger King, Justin's, Acting.... are you serious? Even Applebottom & Pimp Juice is selling for Nelly. Luda been acting everywhere and just won a grammy.

In the climate of declining record sales, everyone gets money from multiple avenues.... i repeat, nas is still JUST an artist.
I could care less is Nas is poor or rich as long as he makes GOOD MUSIC then I respect that. His business moves are beyond questionable ofcourse. He had his chance to be a business man like the time when he turned down Budweiser commercials because he didn't wanna set a bad example. What does money and fame have to do with talent and who won battles??? Ill put it this way Jay-Z album BP2 sold horribly below his expectations. He said it himelf. People also gave it low ratings so he brung out the "Black Album" theme tryna say he retired.

 12 years ago '04        #130
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 A.O. said
Still nobody has pointed out any lies...

I mean people be real fast to say "ether is hot but its all lies", but i dont see them.

As far as the bi*ch comment. Just because he made a song "Sisters and bi*ches" doesnt mean he didnt switch up his whole style. Listen to Kingdom come, you hear him say "lady" "chick" "female" but never bi*ch no more.

He went from "Can i get A" to "Excuse me miss"
from "Hey papi" to "Crazy in love"

ether that sh*t to make your soul burn slow.

Then you go down the list...

"JJ Evans gunned up and clapped quick" - No homo but hov look like JJ a lil bit.

"How many more biggie rhymes gonna come out ya phat lips" - True

"1st biggies ya man then you got the nerve to say that you better than big" - true!

Im a fan of both, but on the real there were more lies on takeover than on Ether.

"Fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all" - lie
"Ya bodyguard oochie wally verse better than yours" - Lie
"I showed you your first tec on tour with large professor" - Lie
extra p said yea hov held them down in a incident, but is that really the first time nas saw a gun, come on.!

"1 hot album every ten year average" - lie
"I am" "IWW" "Illmatic" thats already 3 hot joints in 10 years.

Come on people lets get it together. Dont just go around sayin "Ether is hot but its all lies" without Ether. jay woulda never retired. Without ether jayz wouldnt have made 100 diss songs going on the radio every day after ether getting a new "i hate nas" song on the radio. He wouldnt have went on vacation and gave cam the ammo wit them open toe slippers.

a fan of both, prefer nas more tho...


lotta these ppl pointed out all the lies, you sound like a stan avoiding the truth

its even funnier how you started talkin about takeover being all lies...

 06-09-2007, 03:35 PM         #131
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 Andre3000 said
Pac never punked Nas and they squashed it before he died. And Nas doesn't report to Jigga just how DMX didn't report to Jigga when he wanted to release his album out. U guys are looking at it from the financial side.


Yeah he did.. This article is on AllHipHop.com somewhere and it has a lot eye witness that tell the story.. And your kidding yourself if you think if Jay really wanted to push back Nas it wouldn't happen. It would.



 CalcuoCuchicheo said
You went from, Corey, to Rae, to 'Pac..
And Eminem would've murdered you on The Cross..

Nas was on Cormega...then got punked by him.
That whole Esco phase was wannabe Raekwon sh*t.
And pretty much everything else has been Tupac...who, as you said, punked him.

And the "Eminem murdered you on your own sh*t" line was always funny to me because the only reason Nas never got murdered by dude is because he refused to feature him. Reminds me of that story of Nas going to the studio to do a feature with some dudes, heard Pun's verse & left because he knew he couldn't come close to it.


Not only that but Nas is only saying that because Jay k!lled him with that Ochi Wally line, which is true Nas was wack on that song and whole song was trash.

 12 years ago '07        #132
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 Andre3000 said
I could care less is Nas is poor or rich as long as he makes GOOD MUSIC then I respect that. His business moves are beyond questionable ofcourse. He had his chance to be a business man like the time when he turned down Budweiser commercials because he didn't wanna set a bad example. What does money and fame have to do with talent and who won battles??? Ill put it this way Jay-Z album BP2 sold horribly below his expectations. He said it himelf. People also gave it low ratings so he brung out the "Black Album" theme tryna say he retired.

Son, you have problems.... You quoted me first. I said a bunch of other dudes are doing better than him (@ life). They are all business men... Nas is still JUST an artist. You are the one talking about music. I'm talking about life. Who the h*ll becomes an artist to just be an artist forever????

 12 years ago '07        #133
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 Andre3000 said
Pac never punked Nas and they squashed it before he died. And Nas doesn't report to Jigga just how DMX didn't report to Jigga when he wanted to release his album out. U guys are looking at it from the financial side.

Pac punked Nas and Mobb deep constantly. I dunno if he ever did it on wax.... but he did it in the media, articles, live TV. Hell, it was either the MTV awards or the source awards where he called Nas whack, while looking into the camera with Suge behind him.


Don't talk about sh*t you know nothing about.

 06-09-2007, 03:47 PM         #134
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Here is part of an interview XXL conducted with Nas concerning his beef with Tupac. It will appear in the January 2003 issue.

S.J.- Let's talk about 2Pac. 'Pac has become the thug immortal, the universally revered Black Elvis. And you have a track with him on your new album. But some people might say, Well, since Nas and 'Pac didn't really get along when he was around, it's a little strange that Nas has gone on to fully embrace the man.

Nas- Well, if you think about it, 2Pac just came at me only one time, on a song called "Against All Odds." I cried when I heard it. Look, most n*ggas started listening to 'Pac after he became controversial. I was listening to him since "Trapped," since he rhymed with (Digital) Underground. I identified with him...as an artist. fu*k the hype. I love his music

Sensitive Thugs

 06-09-2007, 03:47 PM         #135
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 RakimAllahNY said


Yeah he did.. This article is on AllHipHop.com somewhere and it has a lot eye witness that tell the story.. And your kidding yourself if you think if Jay really wanted to push back Nas it wouldn't happen. It would.







Not only that but Nas is only saying that because Jay k!lled him with that Ochi Wally line, which is true Nas was wack on that song and whole song was trash.
damn how do you know whats in nas head what are u a mind reader

 06-09-2007, 03:56 PM         #136
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what proof did he drop that nas didnt like when pac dissed him do you think he liked when jay dissed him too

 06-09-2007, 04:02 PM         #137
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This is what annoys me about Nas fans..

Yall sit here dissing Jay for YEARS because it sounded like he was about to cry on hot 97 (Which he wasn't. I heard it live and it was posted up on AHH for a while but thats not the point). Yall n*gga dogg him all day about it but then when Nas admits himself he CRIED actually CRIED when Pac dissed him its ok because he should be sad.. Yall some punk bi*ches if you think Nas aint a little bi*ch.

 06-09-2007, 04:09 PM         #138
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that tae bo sh*t ws too funny
anybody ever see that MTV diary when jAy goes to the gym and boxes

 06-09-2007, 04:16 PM         #139
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so how did the rumor get started that he was crying a bunch of ppl said jay
was on the radio sounding emotional about ether saying where he frm men

dont say that about other men and dont lie like he aint say that a bunch of
times we not talking about nas n pac cause if he did cry ova pac dissing him

which i think he lying cause he dont want to diss pac in anyway since he
dead but if he did i aint got no problem admitting he was a bi*ch then but

around 01 he wasnt jay was and i heard nas when he was on da radio with
funk flex when he heard supa ugly he laughed that sh*t off so if nas not lying

he was bi*ch then n jay was bi*ch in 01 the only excuse nas got is he was
early 20s but that still really aint no excuse but jay was in his early 30s
then so whats his excuse

 06-09-2007, 04:22 PM         #140
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Jay never cried, people say (Nas Fans) said he sounded like he wanted to. But if anyone ever heard Jays voice not when hes flowing it sounds cracked out anyway.


If you can't see the difference between someone admitting there crying over a song vs someone else saying they think someones voice sounds like they wanna cry I dont know what to say

 06-09-2007, 04:34 PM         #141
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^^^He cant respond to what i said so he talk about my typing try again sh*t didnt work aint nobody paying that sh*t no attention

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But ill admit i never heard the interview so i cant comment on whether he was sounding emotional or not but i heard so many times jay say ether was over the line and that where im from ppl dont say sh*t like that about ppl all im saying is jay was acting emotional when he was beefing with nas and nas like he admitted acted emotional when he was beefing with pac


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 12 years ago '07        #142
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 RakimAllahNY said
Jay never cried, people say (Nas Fans) said he sounded like he wanted to. But if anyone ever heard Jays voice not when hes flowing it sounds cracked out anyway.


If you can't see the difference between someone admitting there crying over a song vs someone else saying they think someones voice sounds like they wanna cry I dont know what to say

...... ohhhhh, that's funny.


Yea, Jay always sounds depressed and uninterested all the time, never thought about it before.

 12 years ago '04        #143
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 MissLoveOne said
I'm going to be honest. I didn't think Takeover was all that either. It wasn't the songs themselves. It was two of NY's most respected MCs going for the crown. People didn't expect Nas to come back with what he came back with. Especially when everybody was saying he fell off. Let's not forget, Ether was changed 5 times before the album version was decided on. I remember Nas saying Columbia made him change the song 5 times, because it was too harsh.
Takeover only had one verse directed at Nas the others were about mobb deep so of course it wasnt all that cus it was only 1 verse. That one verse was still better than either and i used to think otherwise, but that was when I was younger and was like this is a cool song, but when u break it down jay won.

 12 years ago '04        #144
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 A.O. said
Still nobody has pointed out any lies...

I mean people be real fast to say "ether is hot but its all lies", but i dont see them.

As far as the bi*ch comment. Just because he made a song "Sisters and bi*ches" doesnt mean he didnt switch up his whole style. Listen to Kingdom come, you hear him say "lady" "chick" "female" but never bi*ch no more.

He went from "Can i get A" to "Excuse me miss"
from "Hey papi" to "Crazy in love"

ether that sh*t to make your soul burn slow.

Then you go down the list...

"JJ Evans gunned up and clapped quick" - No homo but hov look like JJ a lil bit.

"How many more biggie rhymes gonna come out ya phat lips" - True

"1st biggies ya man then you got the nerve to say that you better than big" - true!

Im a fan of both, but on the real there were more lies on takeover than on Ether.

"Fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all" - lie
"Ya bodyguard oochie wally verse better than yours" - Lie
"I showed you your first tec on tour with large professor" - Lie
extra p said yea hov held them down in a incident, but is that really the first time nas saw a gun, come on.!

"1 hot album every ten year average" - lie
"I am" "IWW" "Illmatic" thats already 3 hot joints in 10 years.

Come on people lets get it together. Dont just go around sayin "Ether is hot but its all lies" without Ether. jay woulda never retired. Without ether jayz wouldnt have made 100 diss songs going on the radio every day after ether getting a new "i hate nas" song on the radio. He wouldnt have went on vacation and gave cam the ammo wit them open toe slippers.

a fan of both, prefer nas more tho...
Man after it was written nas was forgotten about till got urself a gun came out. Which was when the diss came out, so ya he was not mentioned at all.

 06-09-2007, 04:43 PM         #145
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 FACEMOB1 said
Typing in bigger letters isnt going to improve your english dumbass....
Trying to change the subject to my typing isnt going to work it only shows that you could not come up with a response and you were desperate.


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 06-09-2007, 04:58 PM         #146
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Still nobody has pointed out any lies...

I mean people be real fast to say "ether is hot but its all lies", but i dont see them.
Really? Rocafella died of aids? You don't say I wonder where Nas history teach ws when he spit that sh*t.


As far as the bi*ch comment. Just because he made a song "Sisters and bi*ches" doesnt mean he didnt switch up his whole style. Listen to Kingdom come, you hear him say "lady" "chick" "female" but never bi*ch no more.

He went from "Can i get A" to "Excuse me miss"
from "Hey papi" to "Crazy in love"

ether that sh*t to make your soul burn slow.
Hes made many songs/freestyles/collabos dissin woman get ya facts up scrap

Then you go down the list...
"JJ Evans gunned up and clapped quick" - No homo but hov look like JJ a lil bit.

"How many more biggie rhymes gonna come out ya phat lips" - True

"1st biggies ya man then you got the nerve to say that you better than big" - true!

So just cause a n*gga is your friend you can't say your better then him? And hes showing respect spitting lines, Nas does it everyone does. I aint gay so I dont comment on a n*ggas looks



"Fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all" - lie
"Ya bodyguard oochie wally verse better than yours" - Lie
Thats all his opinion so how can you say its a lie? And in a lot of opionions Nas fell off and his verse on Oochi was horrible




"I showed you your first tec on tour with large professor" - Lie
extra p said yea hov held them down in a incident, but is that really the first time nas saw a gun, come on.!


Maybe it was and maybe it wasn't but since half the part is right what makes you think it aint all the truth, you were there?



"1 hot album every ten year average" - lie
"I am" "IWW" "Illmatic" thats already 3 hot joints in 10 years.

Once again its an opinion and how can that be wrong? Like I said a lot of people think Nas was horrible after Illmatic and tried to d*ck ride, Tupac, Wu Tang etc during this period. Now hes back to Tupac.


Come on people lets get it together. Dont just go around sayin "Ether is hot but its all lies" without Ether. jay woulda never retired. Without ether jayz wouldnt have made 100 diss songs going on the radio every day after ether getting a new "i hate nas" song on the radio. He wouldnt have went on vacation and gave cam the ammo wit them open toe slippers.

a fan of both, prefer nas more tho...

He put out what 2 or 3 more cds after this sh*t and all sold way more then Nas ever did, so yeah I guess Nas really effected his retirement. And if anyone got burn from this beef it was Nas he was a.ss and played out before this sh*t happened no one was even checking for him cept maybe a few back packers but thats about it..

And your not a fan of both, your so on Nas d*ck you need to pay Kelis Rent.

 12 years ago '05        #147
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Blueprint 2 blows Ether OUT THE WATER!!

 06-09-2007, 05:08 PM         #148
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 FACEMOB1 said
there is nothing left to say....nas is jay-z's bi*ch right now....he fu*ked his babymoms, bragged about it.....and the n*gga still came to work for jay...n*gga must be broke
If nas is jays bi*ch then jays nas stan

1.asking nas to do his video

2.having az in his first video

3.doing another song with nas vocal even though he dissed him-Rap Game Crack Game

4.biting nas lyrics on the same album he dissing nas on the same album he dissing him on
Nas - "Verbal Intercourse"
"From the womb to the tomb, presume the unpredictable Guns salute life, rapidly, that's the ritual"
Jay - "Never change"
"From the womb to the tomb, from now until my doom drink army from one cup pass it around the room, That's the ritual"

5.fu*king nas ex say what you want but thats borderline stalking this n*gga

n putting where in bold letters and laughing is the most original thing i ever seen damn u need to make yo own disses call it if you come on a rap forum n make a typing error you cant speak english

 06-09-2007, 10:00 PM         #149
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 stogz said
Pac punked Nas and Mobb deep constantly. I dunno if he ever did it on wax.... but he did it in the media, articles, live TV. Hell, it was either the MTV awards or the source awards where he called Nas whack, while looking into the camera with Suge behind him.


Don't talk about sh*t you know nothing about.
how do u punk someone by talking sh*t about them on tv??

 06-09-2007, 10:22 PM         #150
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its a diss track everything aint gonna be true come on now a lot of it was word play and metaphors yall are takin this too seriously and super ugly was wack y u think nas aint come back after that

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