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 02-23-2007, 12:26 PM         #1
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A.O.™ 
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Lies in Ether what are they?
 

 
I always wanted to know, why jayz would be on hot 97 crying, that the dude took it to far, if they were all lies.

I always hear people saying that "Ether is hot, but its all lies"

So any Hova loyal want to point out the lies.

Because...

the only lie that i would give you and its not even a lie its a metaphor is

"In 88 you was getting chase to your building, calling me and i aint even give you my number all i did was give you a style to run wit"

So somebody step up and take the "Ether" challenge.
Only made this post cause til yesterday i always thought "Supa ugly" was better than ether not song wise, but diss wise there were more daggers in super ugly but i realized i only thought that because mostly what nas said in ether is what people been talking about on the streets for ever so i didnt feel it was that tough, but yesterday i was riding home from work and i felt like bumping ether and it was so hot i listened to it like 10 times in a row, and couldnt really pin point where peole said it was all lies.

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 12 years ago '05        #2
CalcuoCuchicheo 
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"I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced"

There's a lie; Nas didn't have sh*t "locked" then, he had a lauded verse. And either it is accepted that he didn't influence dudes like Rakim & Tupac, or we say they were probably influenced in some way because of Nas's impact.....at which point we need to accept that Nas has been influenced by everyone who's anyone too, completely negating the point of this proving him to be the "truest".

"With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music"

Jay didn't blow off that bullsh*t; hardly "fame". And I don't recall Jay going "Nas, Nas, Nas" on every other record.

Anyway, that's just the first verse or whatnot; the funny thing is, those are the only two attempts at actually dissing in the first verse; that's the problem I have with Ether, Nas barely disses Jay & what he does try doesn't stand up.

 02-23-2007, 12:45 PM         #3
ZAFT  OP
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It's real, otherwise Jay wouldn't react the way he did.

@ d*ckriders claiming that it's all lies

 12 years ago '04        #4
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I guess the line bout Jay havin no tecs cuz after Ether dropped Large Professor cosigned Jay in XXL sayin Jay had one when they got into some beef in VA I believe while they were on tour together.

 12 years ago '06        #5
rblivewire327 2 heat pts
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- Compared to Beans you wack
- Eminem murdered u on ur own sh*t
- I rock hoes, yall rock fellas
- whiskers like a rat
- pop sh*t apologize later
- I got this locked since 9-1, I am the truest
- You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
- You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pus*y, and stan
-Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
-And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
- Queens n*ggas run you n*ggas, ask Russell Simmons
- Wanted to be on every last one of my classics

- All lies

 02-23-2007, 12:51 PM         #6
misterphreeze  OP
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 ZAFT said
It's real, otherwise Jay wouldn't react the way he did.

@ d*ckriders claiming that it's all lies
Is this a serious argument.

If someone tells lies on you...you won't respond? That doesn't make 2 sense.

 02-23-2007, 12:58 PM         #7
JAYMETRO  OP
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 rblivewire327 said
- Compared to Beans you wack
- Eminem murdered u on ur own sh*t
- I rock hoes, yall rock fellas
- whiskers like a rat
- pop sh*t apologize later
- I got this locked since 9-1, I am the truest
- You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
- You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pus*y, and stan
-Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
-And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
- Queens n*ggas run you n*ggas, ask Russell Simmons
- Wanted to be on every last one of my classics

- All lies
i dont get it....are you stupid or retarted?

 02-23-2007, 01:01 PM         #8
ZAFT  OP
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 rblivewire327 said
- Compared to Beans you wack
- Eminem murdered u on ur own sh*t
- I rock hoes, yall rock fellas
- whiskers like a rat
- pop sh*t apologize later
- I got this locked since 9-1, I am the truest
- You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
- You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pus*y, and stan
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
-And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
- Queens n*ggas run you n*ggas, ask Russell Simmons
- Wanted to be on every last one of my classics

- All lies
The ones I highlighted i'm 100% sure that they are real. I mean, it's obvious that Em k!lled jay on that track. Plus, there is so much proof that Jay hits women and he's a bit of a stan because he wanted to copy the sound Nas had with the impact Illmatic had. Jay even qouted Nas that says enough

Go suck his d!ck, groupie!

 12 years ago '05        #9
CalcuoCuchicheo 
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 ZAFT said
The ones I highlighted i'm 100% sure that they are real. I mean, it's obvious that Em k!lled jay on that track. Plus, there is so much proof that Jay hits women and he's a bit of a stan because he wanted to copy the sound Nas had with the impact Illmatic had. Jay even qouted Nas that says enough

Go suck his d*ck, groupie!
"compared to Beans you wack" - pure opinion.
"it's obvious" - pure opinion.

"so much proof that Jay hits women" - where did Nas say anything about Jay hitting women? You're listening to your version of Ether right?

And yes, quoting someone means you're a "stan". What a fu*king idiot.

 12 years ago '05        #10
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 rblivewire327 said
-Compared to Beans you wack
- Eminem murdered u on ur own sh*t
- I rock hoes, yall rock fellas
- whiskers like a rat
- pop sh*t apologize later
- I got this locked since 9-1, I am the truest
- You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
- You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pus*y, and stan
-Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
-And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
- Queens n*ggas run you n*ggas, ask Russell Simmons
- Wanted to be on every last one of my classics

- All lies
I agree with this all of these are lies. The frist two could be taken as a person's opinion. The only thing on this list that might be true is the last statement. But its also a false statement in itself. I mean he only had one classic up to that point and that was illmatic.

Also just for the record i loved the song. I just felt that takeover and super ugly was way better.

 12 years ago '05        #11
thaillest719 
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 ZAFT said
It's real, otherwise Jay wouldn't react the way he did.

@ d*ckriders claiming that it's all lies

If someone was lyin on you would you not react to it? Your little sub heading lets me know that you know nothin about rap sayin Jay is most overrated Mc ever.

 02-23-2007, 01:46 PM         #12
A.O.™  OP
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 rblivewire327 said
- Compared to Beans you wack
- Eminem murdered u on ur own sh*t
- True story.

- I rock hoes, yall rock fellas
Thats a diss playing on his companys name

- pop sh*t apologize later
True story it happened with the beanie and kiss beef.

- I got this locked since 9-1, I am the truest
- You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
Look at hovs swagger since ether, he hasnt called not 1 girl a bi*ch on a track.\

-And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame -
True story, go to hiphopgame and look it up, its in the archives they said that the whole stabbing was fake it was to promote vol.3

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Queens n*ggas run you n*ggas, ask Russell Simmons -
True story, Russell Simmons is the CEO from def jam, he is from queens, and he distributes rocafella records.

- Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
"Gave you prophecy on my first joint, and ya all laid out, didnt appreciate it til the 2nd one came out, then i X'd your name out"
remember jay sampling nas voice on RD, and Vol.1 and then no more after vol.1.


- All lies
So i dont know what to say.

 12 years ago '06        #13
ItIsWhatItIs 1 heat pts
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jay did get k!lled on renegade and every song he has wit beans, beans overshadow em like qrazy, samething wit az and nas, az always come out on top when they did a song together...

 02-23-2007, 01:51 PM         #14
Arkanjal  OP
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any of the gay jokes....

come on......how can you call the man that fu*ked your baby momma GAY???? theres a lot of things you can say, but GAY is not one of them. and, real talk.....BEYONCE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kelis x1000

 12 years ago '06        #15
rblivewire327 2 heat pts
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 JAYMETRO said
i dont get it....are you stupid or retarted?
thats ur argument???? .... dumbass n*gga

 12 years ago '06        #16
rblivewire327 2 heat pts
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 ZAFT said
The ones I highlighted i'm 100% sure that they are real. I mean, it's obvious that Em k!lled jay on that track. Plus, there is so much proof that Jay hits women and he's a bit of a stan because he wanted to copy the sound Nas had with the impact Illmatic had. Jay even qouted Nas that says enough

Go suck his d*ck, groupie!

u have no argument .... shutup

 12 years ago '05        #17
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 A.O.™ said
So i dont know what to say.

Jay apoligized to Kiss cause he didnt want no more death in hip hop so you should give him credit for that.

Then on Russell Simmons being from Queens and running Jay and the Roc. What does NAS OWN?????????? Nothing, how you goin diss somebody for owning a company and you dont.

Jay did call women bi*ches after ether came out do you not listein to music. He mad a song telling the difference between a woman and a bi*ch.

And the last thing about him wanting to be on everyone of his classic i explained that eariler.

Really Listein to music and dont just skim through it.

 12 years ago '06        #18
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u guys are funny takeover had as many "lies" and opinions as ether.

Jay Z said girls call him ugly on song cry
Jay Z said he knows Tae Boe on Girls, Girls, Girls
Every Jay Z album has nas's voice or he is mentioned all the way up to the blueprint. = stan

I can keep going. Ether was fire. Face it yall

 02-23-2007, 02:09 PM         #19
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 rblivewire327 said
- Compared to Beans you wack
- Eminem murdered u on ur own sh*t
- I rock hoes, yall rock fellas
- whiskers like a rat
- pop sh*t apologize later
- I got this locked since 9-1, I am the truest
- You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
- You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pus*y, and stan
-Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
-And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
- Queens n*ggas run you n*ggas, ask Russell Simmons
- Wanted to be on every last one of my classics

- All lies


- Eminem murdered u on ur own sh*t -- em did k!ll him, not with his flow, but by mocking Orginal Flavors style from 'Can I get Open" where them dudes was flippin Das Efx's style. I used to bump that track b4 I who J diggy A diggity to the Y/ you so crazy aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh was. Fact


- I got this locked since 9-1, I am the truest/name a rapper I ain't influence
I ain't from NY Queens none of that sh*t but Live at the BBQ is still considered Nas' illest verse and put him on smash a coulpa years b4 illmatic came out. Key word here is since. Illmatic=lyricism resurrected everyone in rap was thinking Snoop was a lyricist until Illmatic then the game stepped up.

the rest makes for a classic song/diss

 12 years ago '06        #20
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Originally Posted by rblivewire327
- Compared to Beans you wack

Quote:
- Eminem murdered u on ur own sh*t

- True story.


Quote:
- I rock hoes, yall rock fellas

Thats a diss playing on his companys name


Quote:
- pop sh*t apologize later

True story it happened with the beanie and kiss beef.

- I got this locked since 9-1, I am the truest

Quote:
- You seem to be only concerned with dissin women

Look at hovs swagger since ether, he hasnt called not 1 girl a bi*ch on a track.\


Quote:
-And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame -

True story, go to hiphopgame and look it up, its in the archives they said that the whole stabbing was fake it was to promote vol.3

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Quote:
Queens n*ggas run you n*ggas, ask Russell Simmons -

True story, Russell Simmons is the CEO from def jam, he is from queens, and he distributes rocafella records.


Quote:
- Wanted to be on every last one of my classics

"Gave you prophecy on my first joint, and ya all laid out, didnt appreciate it til the 2nd one came out, then i X'd your name out"
remember jay sampling nas voice on RD, and Vol.1 and then no more after vol.1.


 A.O.™ said
So i dont know what to say.

What is u talkin about right now?????
HOV made the song bi*ch on Blueprint 2 ... AFTER ETHER ....
what is wrong wit these n*ggaz???

Compared to Beans u wack?????? Not even commenting

 02-23-2007, 02:24 PM         #21
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 slimwillie said
Live at the BBQ is considered Nas illest verse.by who??that's sad since it was his 1st.he hasn't gotten better then??how can ANY1 be on SMASH for a coupla years with 1 verse???truth is Biggie had NY on smash in 92-97 Big was the Undisputed King of NY imo..btw Kick in the Door was for Nas

Kick in the Door>>>>>>>any nas song after Illmatic til B.I.G.'s death

Live at the BBQ is considered Nas illest verse.by who?? Obviously Columbia, Serchlite Music, Extra P. Noboby I mean nobody was spittin like that. Dude was what 16-17?

how can ANY1 be on SMASH for a coupla years with 1 verse??? Thats testiment to condition of the game. No body has exhibited those kind of chops since.

You didn't know who 'kick in the door' was for until Nas told you.

 12 years ago '04        #22
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 A.O.™ said
I always wanted to know, why jayz would be on hot 97 crying, that the dude took it to far, if they were all lies.
That makes you idol look even worse then if Ether is nothing but "lies", because its a fact that he was on Hot97 whining about it

I stopped reading your post after you asked that

 12 years ago '06        #23
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 slimwillie said
how bout 99 problems but a bi*ch ain't 1????
u infatuated with sayin that gay sh*t how did my d*ck taste wen u was kissin ur b*tch
that wasnt about a girl tho

he was talkin bout the police dog, the dude who yapped his mouth, and i forget who he was talkin about in the first verse

he just says "if you havin girl problems i feel bad for you son"

just to throw people off / use the ice t line

he said it himself

 12 years ago '06        #24
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 slimwillie said
ether was fire but that don't make evrything in it fact.
ur Sig. proves it all..cause Nas ain't puttin his gun in no-ones mouth so he must BE A KID cause EVERYONE KNOWS HE DON"T LIVE WHAT HE RAPS ABOUT
I bet you listen to music as well as you read. Comprehend the first sentence I wrote playboy.

 02-23-2007, 03:06 PM         #25
been_grimm  OP
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 slimwillie said
Columbia, Serchlite Music, Extra P. so now there HipHop geniuses???that's still an opinion buddy i don't give a fu*k who thought that...u sayin nobody spit like that Nas style was bitten off Rakim.all I'm sayin is if Nas best verse was his first THat's SAD...what ur sayin is he didn't get any better.
He's the best with the lyrics next to rakim so yes he has better verses, but that verse put him on. And NOBODY was comin with that kinda heat. And for the record EVERYTHING is opinion, even the truth.

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