Feb 6 - US Soliders Fires at the British after being told WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE

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 11 years ago '05        #1
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Feb 6 - US Soliders Fires at the British after being told WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE
 

 
THE Sun today publishes the full, disturbing truth about how the US pilot of an A-10 tankbuster jet broke all the rules to shoot up a British convoy in the Iraq war.

We obtained the c*ckpit videotape at the centre of a diplomatic row between the two Allies.

It shows how the pilots — reservists who had never been in action before — made SIX crucial errors.

They left 25-year-old Lance Corporal of Horse Matty Hull dead and four comrades from the Household Cavalry Regiment seriously injured.

On the tape, one pilot — call sign POPOV36 - appears to gloat sickeningly during the attack.

He is egged on by the second — call sign POPOV35 — who encourages: “Get him, get him!”

Looking down at the chaos as a soldier drags burning comrades from the vehicles, he adds: “It looks like he is hauling a.ss. Ha Ha.”

A second burst of fire is unleashed 98 seconds after the first. Moments later the pilots are told the truth over the radio.

As they take in the horror, POPOV35 says: “We’re in jail dude”. POPOV36 weeps as they return to base: “God dammit. F*** me dead.”

The “top secret” tape has been seen by the Oxfordshire coroner who is holding L/Cpl Hull’s inquest, but both the Ministry of Defence and the US government have REFUSED to let him show it in court.

L/Cpl Hull’s widow Susan, of Wiltshire, was even told it did not exist.


She said last night: “I’m very relieved this is being made public at long last. I can’t believe these pilots can discuss what they’re doing so casually when these are the last moments of my husband’s life.”

Defence officials insist their hands were tied by a legal pledge with the Pentagon not to reveal any of their secrets. But we can reveal there is NOTHING secret on the tape. But it WILL cause appalling embarrassment.

The tragedy unfolded on March 28, 2003 — day seven of the invasion to topple Saddam. The two single-seat, slow-flying jets were nearing the end of a two-hour mission to destroy artillery and rocket launchers from Saddam’s 6 Armor Division, dug in 25 miles north of Basra.

They were being guided to their targets by Forward Air Controllers from the US Marine Corps — embedded with British ground units and relying on maps, intelligence and the pilots’ own vision.

At the same time, the convoy of British armoured vehicles — two Scimitars and two Spartans — were moving north to probe enemy lines.

They were inside an area US pilots had been told not to shoot into, and carried orange overhead canvas panels used to identify coalition forces to aircraft. They also displayed thermal reflectors and Union Flags.

Circling at an altitude of 12,000ft, the A-10s spotted Iraqi vehicles 800 yards north, and the British patrol less than three miles west. ERROR ONE came when they asked the Forward Air Controller, call sign Manila Hotel, if friendly forces were around the Iraqi vehicles — not to the west. In ERROR TWO neither pilot gave the precise grid references for the Household Cavalry patrol to double check its identity.

ERROR THREE saw them convince themselves the identification panels were really orange rocket launchers.

In ERROR FOUR POPOV36 decides to attack, saying he is “rolling in” — without permission from the Forward Air Controller.
POPOV35 asks for artillery to fire a marker round into the target area to clear up confusion.


But ERROR FIVE came when POPOV36 attacked without waiting for it. In ERROR SIX POPOV36 strafes the column for a second time but still doubts its identity.

Only the bravery of Trooper Chris Finney, 18, stopped further attacks. He jumped on a burning vehicle to radio in a Mayday report and call off the strike, dragged a badly wounded comrade from the inferno, then went back in for L/Cpl Hull. He was injured and won the George Cross.

POPOV36 is known to be a lieutenant colonel, and POPOV35 a major, but their identities have never been released. Neither has the result of a US Air Force inquiry.

Last night a senior US military source told The Sun: “This tape needs to get out. The pilots need to be brought to account.”

An MoD spokesman said: “There has never been any intention to deliberately deceive or mislead L/Cpl Hull’s family. We did inform them some classified material had been withheld.”

We have now handed the video tape recording taken from the c*ckpit of the A10 ground attack jet to the Oxfordshire Coroner’s office.

Assistant Deputy Coroner Andrew Walker, who is hearing the inquest into Lance Corporal of Horse Matty Hull’s death, has expressed his gratitude.


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202 comments for "Feb 6 - US Soliders Fires at the British after being told WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE"

 11 years ago '04        #2
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i know the widow's pissed over their gloating but what did she expect? if those really were iraqi's and they were talking baotu them that way it would all be good.... but now that it's someone on their side they expect them to act with compassion...... fu*k outta here if you don't kow what war is don't comment
 11 years ago '05        #3
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What the fu*k you on about. The tanks had orange flags which mean they were on our side. They even said look some tanks with orange flags. We shot at them a few times, they radio us and said, man stop firing we on your side. They shot again.

Then the control station radio the pilot and said they one of us. The pilot realised and said that sucks, dude we are going to jail.

The British are not there because they want to be, its not thier war, its ours, we got their support they are helping us and you dont fire and k!ll your own team.

What is more stupid is that we hid the video.


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 02-06-2007, 12:18 PM         #4
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fu*ked up, this is what we get for helping!

and you lot still wonder why the world hates you.
 11 years ago '05        #5
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 02-06-2007, 01:24 PM         #6
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I posted this up already and soldiers are in there talking sh*t on the net instead off being useful as always.
 11 years ago '04        #7
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^^^ lol i kno....its sad doe i hate my main from Britain died cuz of dese triggerhappy soldiers...i mean same story wit these crooked a.ss police down here who be shooting first and askin questions later...i mean stay strapped...i ain goin out like dat i kno dat R.i.p. the british soldier cat yo..word up
 11 years ago '04        #8
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Oh boy... Well, if it makes you Brits feel any better, British Pound > U.S. Dollar.
 02-06-2007, 01:42 PM         #9
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Again like said in the other thread this is war it happens its tragic! Dont look at the taunting so much this is common practice when in combat when the adrenal glands are pumping...

However it does seem to be gross negligence on the part of the pilots.....I would even speculate that they were so blood thirsty for a k!ll that they failed to properly ID the guys before they hit them. I am sure that these men will be brought up on charges if signs point to gross negligence.
 02-06-2007, 01:46 PM         #10
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 SignalSoldier said:
Again like said in the other thread this is war it happens its tragic! Dont look at the taunting so much this is common practice when in combat when the adrenal glands are pumping...

However it does seem to be gross negligence on the part of the pilots.....I would even speculate that they were so blood thirsty for a k!ll that they failed to properly ID the guys before they hit them. I am sure that these men will be brought up on charges if signs point to gross negligence.
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Didn't expect this post from you, so you were just hating before.
 11 years ago '06        #11
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suked i saw the video at then end the dudes just woreid cause he goin to jail and the othere team said one dead and a couple wounded
 02-06-2007, 01:54 PM         #12
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 Exodus X13 said:
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Didn't expect this post from you, so you were just hating before.
My first post in that other thread was not far from this.....what k!lls me are two things

1. Anti Americanism

2. Lack of knowledge of military operations.

You folks have no clue what we experience and what happens with us. So it bothers us when we face situations were people speculate or think they know all there is to know because they saw the news. Kinda like me trying to tell people what life is like in Britain when I have been there know what im saying?
 02-06-2007, 01:59 PM         #13
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 SignalSoldier said:
My first post in that other thread was not far from this.....what k!lls me are two things

1. Anti Americanism

2. Lack of knowledge of military operations.

You folks have no clue what we experience and what happens with us. So it bothers us when we face situations were people speculate or think they know all there is to know because they saw the news. Kinda like me trying to tell people what life is like in Britain when I have been there know what im saying?


Yeah but you are not a pilot so you cant say either can you.



Yeah I have heard responses from pilots on this incident one being a pilot who was in the last gulf war and yes he did say that it is a very had task distinguishing ground objects while travelling at g forces and the adrenaline rush will make your decisions a bit wary and especially at these days where American troops regularly use them "go pills".
 02-06-2007, 02:16 PM         #14
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Hey friendly fire, what can u say it's war and mistakes happen unfortunately.
 11 years ago '04        #15
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(<--usmc) theres so much sh*t that we go through out here, good and bad, but all anyone focuses on is all the bad sh*t due to the negative press stories. I mean there has been a bunch of good sh*t going on but have ya'll heard about that?


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 02-06-2007, 02:28 PM         #16
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Bush gonna get all us k!lled
 11 years ago '05        #17
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fu*ked up video

i feel bad for all of them
 11 years ago '05        #18
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 orv said:
Oh boy... Well, if it makes you Brits feel any better, British Pound > U.S. Dollar.
Too funny. lmao
 11 years ago '04        #19
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I think those pilots were sent to jail last year, but I guess if you were on some kind of amphetamines you might also be trigger happy. Amphetamines are given to pilots so they can fly for hours non-stop and sometimes they're given to soldiers too.
 11 years ago '07        #20
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thats fucced up, they should get life sentences...
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