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.... we was the shyt when barry was here....

but :wow: at the cleveland game..

it was 23-0 in the 3rd when we sat down our 2nd string players and they allowed cleveland to come back a lil cause they kept they 2nd string in the game in the 4th quarter allowing quinn to throw two TD's


next week is the colts..

I think we may lose but it aint gonna be a blowout..

I hope for the best
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Detroit Lions defensive tackle Shaun Rogers returns to practice
August 21, 2007

ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- Shaun Rogers returned to practice Tuesday but probably won't play in the Detroit Lions' third preseason game.

The defensive tackle, a two-time Pro Bowl selection, was activated from the physically unable-to-perform list on Monday and saw action on a handful of contact snaps on Tuesday.

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"Right now, I'm going day by day with him," Coach Rod Marinelli said. "My biggest thing is to do everything I can to get him in the best condition he can be."

Rogers had his helmet off after nearly every snap he played and did not appear to be in game shape.

"Football shape is something totally different -- the pounding and the pace of the game," Rogers said. "I still have a long way to go to get there. I just want to be ready for September."

It's doubtful he will be on the field when the Lions travel to Indianapolis on Saturday for their third preseason game.

Rogers would not discuss his tumultuous year, which included a four-game suspension for using a banned supplement that was in a weight-loss supplement and allegations he improperly touched an exotic dancer. The Wayne County prosecutor's office did not bring charges.

After serving the suspension, Rogers missed the team's last six games with a knee injury. He had offseason surgery and surgery on his shoulder.

His return coincided with defensive end Dewayne White, a free agent from Tampa Bay, who missed most of training camp with a knee injury. White took part in most drills Tuesday and defensive end Kalimba Edwards was kept out of workouts because of a shoulder injury sustained during the Aug. 9 preseason opener.

Rogers earned his first Pro Bowl trip after finishing 2004 with four sacks and 75 tackles and went back to Hawaii the next season, when he had a career-best 5 1/2 sacks and 36 tackles.

Marinelli, a longtime defensive line coach at Tampa Bay, said he plans to use Rogers under tackle more this season. It should still showcase the speed the seven-year veteran showed during his Pro Bowl seasons.

"He can be even more disruptive in there," Marinelli said. "I've never really had a guy that can really disrupt in there."

Quarterback Jon Kitna left practice Tuesday with what Marinelli called mild back spasms.

The Lions begin the regular season Sept. 9 at Oakland.

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QB Dan Orlovsky missed practice with a turf toe injury he suffered during Saturday's preseason game at Cleveland. Marinelli did not know when he would return. Paul Horvath was signed as the team's third quarterback. ... The team waived K Kenny Byrd. ... LB Ernie Sims (knee), G Frank Davis (knee) and G Damien Woody (ankle) did not practice Tuesday and are day-to-day. ... Persistent rain Monday forced the Lions to conduct practice indoors Tuesday.
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Report: Ex-Lions WR Rogers to play for CFL
August 19, 2007

BRISTOL, CONNECTICUT (TICKER) -- Charles Rogers apparently will head north of the border for his comeback attempt.

According to a report by ESPN.com, the former first-round pick of the Detroit Lions will sign with the Canadian Football League soon with the hopes he can rebuild his once-promising career.

Selected second overall in 2003 out of Michigan State, Rogers was released by the Lions after three lackluster campaigns that saw the 26-year-old play in just 15 games.

Rogers failed to stay on the field primarily due to two broken collarbones and a substance abuse suspension.

He inked a contract worth $54.6 million with Detroit, which paid Rogers $16.19 million in bonuses and base salary. The speedy wide receiver had just 36 catches for 440 yards and four touchdowns.

Updated on Sunday, Aug 19, 2007 4:01 pm, EDT
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Lions will wait until gametime to decide Kitna's status
August 23, 2007

ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- Quarterback Jon Kitna's status for the Detroit Lions' third preseason game remained uncertain Thursday.

Offensive coordinator Mike Martz said the Lions will wait until Saturday afternoon to decide whether the starter will play that night at Indianapolis. Kitna left Tuesday's practice with back spasms and has not taken part in drills since.

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Coach Rod Marinelli said Wednesday he didn't think the injury was serious, but added the team was ready to play the Colts without him.

"You've got to go with what you have," Marinelli said.

The third preseason game typically features the starting unit.

Kitna took every regular-season snap in 2006, led the NFL in completions (372) and was second in attempts (596). Both were career bests and team records. The 11-year veteran's 4,208 yards were second only to Scott Mitchell's 4,338 on Detroit's single-season list.

Dan Orlovsky, one of two quarterbacks f!ghting for the backup job, is doubtful for Saturday's game with a turf toe injury suffered Aug. 18 at Cleveland. He has not taken part in drills since the game. And Detroit lost rookie Drew Stanton, the first of two second-round picks, to a knee injury early in camp.

Journeyman J.T. O'Sullivan and rookie Phil Horvath have taken all the practice snaps since Kitna left practice Tuesday. Horvath, a free agent who played last season at Northern Illinois, joined the team Tuesday.
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Lions release former Pro Bowl return specialist Eddie Drummond
August 23, 2007

ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- The Detroit Lions released former Pro Bowl return specialist Eddie Drummond on Thursday.

Drummond was named to the Pro Bowl after the 2004 season when he became the second player in NFL history to return two kickoffs and two punts for touchdowns in the same season. He made the trip to Hawaii, despite missing the last five games with a broken shoulder blade.

The move was announced hours after the team ended its practice session. No one from the team was available for comment.

Drummond ranked seventh in the league with a career-best 1,349 kickoff return yards, but was not used in offensive coordinator Mike Martz's scheme.
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Lions will wait until gametime to decide Kitna's status
August 23, 2007

ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- Quarterback Jon Kitna's status for the Detroit Lions' third preseason game remained uncertain Thursday.

Offensive coordinator Mike Martz said the Lions will wait until Saturday afternoon to decide whether the starter will play that night at Indianapolis. Kitna left Tuesday's practice with back spasms and has not taken part in drills since.

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Coach Rod Marinelli said Wednesday he didn't think the injury was serious, but added the team was ready to play the Colts without him.

"You've got to go with what you have," Marinelli said.

The third preseason game typically features the starting unit.

Kitna took every regular-season snap in 2006, led the NFL in completions (372) and was second in attempts (596). Both were career bests and team records. The 11-year veteran's 4,208 yards were second only to Scott Mitchell's 4,338 on Detroit's single-season list.

Dan Orlovsky, one of two quarterbacks f!ghting for the backup job, is doubtful for Saturday's game with a turf toe injury suffered Aug. 18 at Cleveland. He has not taken part in drills since the game. And Detroit lost rookie Drew Stanton, the first of two second-round picks, to a knee injury early in camp.

Journeyman J.T. O'Sullivan and rookie Phil Horvath have taken all the practice snaps since Kitna left practice Tuesday. Horvath, a free agent who played last season at Northern Illinois, joined the team Tuesday.
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that n*gga not playin unless its a "EMERGENCY!"

these n*ggas gettin blew out

score is 23 - 7 indianapolis

heres the lions were used to....
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watup with the avy bet for week 1?
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check the avy bet thread.....


and what u expect they the superbowl champions and our starters didnt play... any team would get blown out... if that happened
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Lions RB Bell leaves game with leg injury
August 25, 2007

DETROIT (TICKER) -- Detroit Lions running back Tatum Bell left Saturday night's preseason game against the Indianapolis Colts with an injury to his lower right leg.

No other details on the injury were available and he will not return.

Bell, who was acquired from the Denver Broncos in an offseason trade, was expected to open the season as the Lions' starter.
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Indianapolis 37, Detroit 10
Preview - Box Score - Recap

By MICHAEL MAROT, AP Sports Writer
August 25, 2007

Detroit Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson, center, is tackled by Indianapolis Colts safety Tim Jennings during the third quarter of an NFL exhibition football game in Indianapolis, Saturday, Aug. 25, 2007.
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INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Tony Dungy wanted Saturday night's preseason game to be a tuneup for the defending Super Bowl champions.

Peyton Manning was thinking more about cleaning up.

The Super Bowl MVP threw three first-half touchdowns and was nearly perfect as the Indianapolis Colts routed Detroit 37-10 for Indy's second win in 13 preseason games.

"Detroit was pretty active in their blitzes, and when they're doing that, it's going to give you some chances to throw the ball," Manning said. "Our execution in the passing game was pretty good."

Manning made it look easy.

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When he last faced the Lions on Thanksgiving in 2004, Manning threw six TDs, a number he might have matched Saturday had he not been replaced at halftime of a meaningless game.

But in what was likely to be the final preseason appearance for most of Indy's starters, Manning appeared to be in midseason form. He completed 23-of-27 for 233 yards and three TDs and made the unlikely seem routine by converting six first downs of 10 yards or longer.

Manning is now 31-of-40 for 331 yards with no interceptions in three weeks, and the offense played well enough against Detroit that coach Tony Dungy uncharacteristically changed the script by pulling his starters at halftime. Dungy had intended to use them into the third quarter.

"We were shooting for 35 to 40 plays but we ran 45 in the first half, so we decided to pull them out," Dungy said. "We did see some good things tonight, and that's what we wanted."

Besides, why risk injury when virtually everything worked?

Marvin Harrison beat single coverage on a slant route for a 13-yard touchdown to give Indy a 7-0 lead late in the first quarter. There was a lobbed dump pass in the end zone that the lunging Dallas Clark scooped off the turf for a 5-yard score to make it 14-3. Then came the nifty 1-yard TD pass to Reggie Wayne with 5 seconds left in the half, a ball Manning whizzed past the head of an unknowing Stanley Wilson, for a 21-3 halftime lead.

Consider, too, Manning did all that with an improvised cast of running backs since Dungy wanted to see backups DeDe Dorsey and Kenton Keith play with the starters.

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Without Manning, Jim Sorgi threw two more touchdown passes in the second half, one to Aaron Moorehead, the other to Craphonso Thorpe.

For Detroit, it was nothing short of a nightmare.

Not only did the Lions look overmatched, they also lost three starters to injuries. Running back Tatum Bell, acquired in a March trade with Denver, left in the first quarter after hurting what appeared to be his right leg. Linebacker Boss Bailey left with a slight concussion, and safety Daniel Bullocks will have an MRI on his injured knee Sunday. None of the three returned.

"I think we need to learn what we can't do versus a good team like this," Bailey said. "We were playing hard, playing fast. We've just got to make the plays."

Worse yet, the offense that led the league in yardage this preseason was stuck in neutral.

Detroit started J.T. O'Sullivan at quarterback because Jon Kitna had a twinge in his back, and the result was a mess. The Lions ran only seven plays in the first quarter and managed six first downs the entire half -- compared with the Colts' 17.

Detroit's only scores came on a 51-yard field goal from Jason Hanson in the second quarter and a 9-yard TD pass from O'Sullivan to former Colts receiver Troy Walters with 40 seconds left.

O'Sullivan finished 24-of-34 for 232 yards with one TD and two interceptions. Calvin Johnson, the second overall pick in April's draft, had three catches for 25 yards.

It wasn't anywhere near what coach Rod Marinelli wanted.

"We have to work on turnovers and ball security," Marinelli said. "The only red flags were to make sure we don't take penalties, tackle better and take care of the ball."

The Colts also had two potentially significant injuries.

Clark, Indy's top tight end, emerged from the locker room after halftime with an ice pack wrapped around his right thigh.

And three-time Pro Bowl defensive end Dwight Freeney went to the locker room before halftime with what was believed to be a quadriceps injury. He watched the second half from the sidelines in street clothes. Dungy downplayed the injury, saying Freeney could have played if it was a regular-season game.

Judging from Manning's performance, it wasn't far off.

"That's what we expect to do every time we go out there -- move the ball, make big plays, score touchdowns," Wayne said. "Offensively, we've been together for a while, so you shouldn't expect anything less."

^Notes: The Colts matched their highest point total in a preseason game since a 37-7 win at New Orleans in 1999. They haven't scored more than 37 in a preseason game since 1965 against Pittsburgh. ... T.J. Duckett led the Lions in rushing with five carries for 16 yards. ... Sorgi was 16-of-23 for 171 yards with two TDs and no interceptions. ... All-but-declared Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson attended the game.

Updated on Saturday, Aug 25, 2007 11:24 pm, EDT
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Lions S Bullocks exits with injured right knee
August 26, 2007

INDIANAPOLIS (TICKER) -- Detroit Lions safety Daniel Bullocks left Saturday's 37-10 preseason loss against the Indianapolis Colts in the second quarter with an apparent right knee injury.

No other details on the injury were available. The 24-year-old will be examined by team doctors on Sunday.

A second-round selection out of Nebraska last season, Bullocks collected 75 tackles - 55 solo - and one sack through 15 games during his rookie campaign.
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Tigers RHP Jurrjens leaves with shoulder soreness
August 26, 2007

DETROIT (TICKER) -- Detroit Tigers rookie righthander Jair Jurrjens, who left Sunday's start against the New York Yankees in the second inning with right posterior shoulder soreness, is headed to the disabled list.

Following their 5-4 victory, the Tigers place Jurrjens on the 15-day disabled list and recall righthander Zach Miner from Class AAA Toledo of the International League.

Jurrjens grabbed his shoulder after giving up a solo home run to Jason Giambi with one out in the inning and was replaced by Chad Durbin.

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Jurrjens said he started to feel the pain when he struck out Hideki Matsui to start the second inning.

"Ever since I struck out Matsui, the first pitch I turned around to the radar gun and saw 86 (miles per hour)," he said. "I'm like, 'Oh, God, it's going to be bad.' I tried to get through it but I can't."

Following the 5-4 victory, the Tigers announced they would place Jurrjens on the 15-day disabled list and recall righthander Zach Miner from Class AAA Toledo of the International League.

Miner is 2-3 with a 3.86 ERA in 24 games, including one start, this season.

"I'm going to shut everything down for six days and come out and play catch and see how it feels from there," Jurrjens said.

Updated on Sunday, Aug 26, 2007 6:10 pm, EDT
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Detroit 5, NY Yankees 4
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August 26, 2007

Detroit Tigers reliever Bobby Seay pitches against the New York Yankees in the seventh inning of a baseball game Sunday, Aug. 26, 2007 in Detroit. Seay (1-0) was awarded the win after pitching two scoreless innings of relief. The Tigers won, 5-4.
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DETROIT (AP) -- The New York Yankees hit the ball hard Sunday. The Detroit Tigers just kept making all the plays.

The Tigers used three early homers and three late defensive gems to beat the Yankees 5-4, and can win their first series since mid-July with a victory in the series finale Monday night.

"We've had some bad moments this year, but the one thing about this team is that they always give it everything they have," Tigers manager Jim Leyland said. "That's the thing that makes a manager proud."

The Tigers moved within 5 1/2 games of the Seattle Mariners in the wild-card race. Detroit began the day 2 1/2 games behind Cleveland in the AL Central.

"We knew how much we needed this one," said Tigers reliever Joel Zumaya, who pitched 1 2-3 scoreless innings. "A big game against the Yankees means a lot of emotion."

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New York fell 2 1/2 games behind Seattle, and seven behind Boston in the AL East.

"We're all right," manager Joe Torre said.

After third baseman Brandon Inge made a spectacular play in the eighth, part-time first baseman Carlos Guillen bailed out Tigers closer Todd Jones with two tough plays in the ninth.

Hideki Matsui started the inning with a grounder between first and second, but Guillen, who moved from shortstop to first before the eighth inning, ranged far to his right to get the ball, then threw across his body to Jones covering first.

"That was an incredible play," Jones said. "I didn't think he could get to the ball, but when he did, I figured I better get myself over to the bag."

After Jason Giambi's single, Guillen snared Robinson Cano's hard-hit grounder and started a game-ending 3-6-3 double play.

"They caught everything we hit," Torre said. "With our offense, normally we can overcome that."

New York Yankees pitcher Phil Hughes watches from the dugout against the Detroit Tigers in the fifth inning of their Major League Baseball game in Detroit, Sunday, Aug. 26 2007.
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Guillen, Detroit's All-Star shortstop, has been playing first base in the late innings of games because of a bad back.

"I'm comfortable there," said Guillen, who started playing first base in last year's World Baseball Classic. "I'm just trying to enjoy it and do the best I can."

The Yankees were without Derek Jeter, who rested a sore knee, while Detroit's Ivan Rodriguez was ejected after arguing with home-plate umpire Sam Holbrook after the top of the fourth inning.

Bobby Seay (1-0) was awarded the win after pitching two scoreless innings of relief. The Tigers needed five pitchers after rookie starter Jair Jurrjens left in the second inning because of a sore shoulder.

"It's been a long time coming," said Seay, who hadn't won since 2001. "This feels good."

Phil Hughes (2-2) lost for the first time since his major league debut on April 26. He allowed five runs and four hits, including three homers, in six innings. He walked one and struck out six.

"We lost, so it was a bad start," he said. "That's the only way you can look at it."

The Tigers had only four hits in the game, none after the third inning.

Granderson, who leads the majors with 21 triples, led off the Detroit first with an inside-the-park homer. Granderson hit a slicing liner down the left-field line that got by Matsui and rolled to the wall, and he easily beat Alex Rodriguez's relay to the plate.

"Once it got by Matsui, I was thinking about third, but then I saw Gene Lamont waving," he said. "He kept waving and I kept running."

New York Yankees' Shelley Duncan takes out Detroit Tigers shortstop Ramon Santiago at second base after completing the double play on Robinson Cano to end the game in the ninth inning of their Major League Baseball game in Detroit, Sunday, Aug. 26 2007. Duncan was pinch running for Jason Giambi who singled. The Tigers beat the Yankees 5-4.
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Placido Polanco singled, and after Hughes retired the next two hitters, Guillen homered deep into the right-field stands.

Giambi made it 3-1 in the second with a homer that landed in almost the same spot as Guillen's. Jurrjens left the game without throwing another pitch, and was replaced by Chad Durbin.

Marcus Thames gave the Tigers a 5-1 lead in the third with a two-run homer, but Cano made it a one-run game with a three-run shot off Durbin in the fourth.

The Yankees put two runners on with one out in the fifth, but Bobby Seay replaced Durbin and retired Bobby Abreu and Alex Rodriguez to end the inning.

Inge started Detroit's defensive show when he robbed Melky Cabrera of a leadoff single in the eighth. Cabrera's hard bouncer up the middle deflected off Zumaya's glove and rolled toward the third-base line, but Inge made a barehanded pickup and threw Cabrera out at first.

Zumaya, in his third outing since returning from the disabled list, then retired Abreu and struck out Rodriguez to end the inning. He was activated Tuesday after missing more than three months because of a sprained middle finger.

"I haven't had a strikeout in a while, so it felt really good to get A-Rod," he said.

Notes

Granderson was the fourth Tiger to hit an inside-the-park homer in Comerica Park's eight seasons. ... The game was delayed for approximately five minutes while Durbin warmed up after Jurrjens' injury. ... Cano's homer, which landed in the bushes beyond the center-field fence, was estimated at 431 feet. ... Polanco extended his major-league record streak of errorless games at second base to 150. ... Jurrjens was placed on the 15-day disabled list after the game with inflammation in his right shoulder.
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Lions to place safety Daniel Bullocks on injured reserve, evaluate RB Kevin Jones
August 27, 2007

ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- The Detroit Lions will put second-year safety Daniel Bullocks on injured reserve after he tore his anterior cruciate ligament.

Bullocks was to start at free safety this season after leading all NFC rookie defensive backs with 70 tackles last season. His right knee buckled during a non-contact play Saturday in the second quarter of the Lions' 37-10 loss at Indianapolis.

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Lions coach Rod Marinelli said Monday he didn't know when Bullocks will have surgery, because doctors must wait for the swelling to go down.

"He's a heck of a player," Marinelli said. "But you move on. The NFL is all about that."

Sixth-year safety Idrees Bashir and rookie Gerald Alexander will compete for the starting spot.

Marinelli also said running back Kevin Jones, who has not played since breaking his foot last season, will be re-evaluated Thursday.

Several other Lions players continue to deal with injuries. Among those listed as day-to-day are defensive tackle Cory Redding, running backs Tatum Bell and Brian Calhoun, guard Damien Woody, defensive tackle Shaun Rogers, defensive end Dewayne White, wide receiver Mike Furrey, quarterback Jon Kitna and cornerback Travis Fisher.
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Lions S Bullocks' injury opens door for Alexander, Bashir
August 28, 2007

ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- Gerald Alexander arrived at training camp hoping to find a niche as a backup safety with the Detroit Lions. An injury to starter Daniel Bullocks suddenly has the rookie in the running for a starter's job.

The Lions placed Bullocks, a starter in seven games as a rookie last season, on injured reserve Monday, two days after he tore a knee ligament during Detroit's 37-10 preseason loss at Indianapolis.

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With Kenoy Kennedy firmly entrenched at strong safety, that leaves Alexander and veteran Idrees Bashir battling for the free safety spot.

"We like Gerald Alexander and Bashir has been a starter in this league," coach Rod Marinelli said. "It's a chance to rotate some guys in there.

"These guys will get some work this week and we'll play the younger guys a lot" in Thursday's exhibition finale against Buffalo.

Neither player was in danger of being released -- the Lions opened camp with only five safeties on the roster -- but Alexander got most of the snaps with the starting unit Tuesday.

The last of Detroit's three second-round picks in April's draft, Alexander comes from an unbeaten Boise State team. A cornerback who switched to safety as a senior, he finished the season with 33 tackles and a fumble recovery.

Bullocks' injury suddenly shifts him from a likely backup to a possible starter.

"It creates an opportunity for me and Idrees to play a lot," he said Tuesday. "I just have to approach it as if I'm the starter and I have to be ready to play every time out."

Alexander spent the offseason and early weeks of camp absorbing the nuances of defensive coordinator Joe Barry's scheme, but said shifting his focus to a chance at a starting job wasn't difficult.

"I was competing with myself and just focusing on what my job was," he said. "With me having a chance to start, I know I've been preparing myself for it, so the transition was pretty smooth."

Bashir, signed as a free agent before last season, was released from the injured reserve list before the season after suffering a hand injury. The Lions re-signed him on Jan. 2.

He was a special-teams player at Carolina in 2005 and last started at safety for Jacksonville the previous season. The six-year veteran's best season was his first, when he started 15 games at free safety in Indianapolis and had a career-best 90 tackles and an interception.


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NFL 2007: A look at the upcoming season, by divisions

^NFC NORTH= ^CHICAGO BEARS (10-6)=

Strengths: A high-impact defense led by LBs Brian Urlacher and Lance Briggs, DT Tommie Harris and a cohesive secondary. WR Bernard Berrian is ready to emerge as a star, and rookie TE Greg Olsen adds a new dimension. KR Devin Hester is ultradangerous if healthy. C Olin Kreutz excels. Lovie Smith is a quality coach with a good staff.

Weaknesses: OK, can't avoid it -- QB Rex Grossman is too inconsistent and must take another big step. Trading RB Thomas Jones to open job for Cedric Benson might be unwise. OL, other than Kreutz, is pedestrian.

Players to watch: Briggs (in contract year), Berrian.

Biggest change: No more reliable Thomas Jones to take pressure off Grossman.

Schedule key: Considering division, how about finale vs. New Orleans, which could decide a lot in the conference?

Why they will finish first: This weak division makes Bears a virtual shoo-in, and their defense seals it. ^GREEN BAY PACKERS (8-8)=

Strengths: QB Brett Favre's competitiveness and WR Donald Driver's brilliance. Excellent pass rush, with DE Cullen Jenkins about to break out and Aaron Kampman already established. If A.J. Hawk also comes on, linebacking could be special. Team should have some cohesion in second year of Mike McCarthy's regime.

Weaknesses: Suspect running game and receiving corps (outside of Driver). Inexperienced OL. Secondary has talent, but CBs Charles Woodson and Al Harris are aging. Driver was injured in preseason.

Players to watch: Jenkins, RB Vernand Morency.

Biggest change: Defense has some versatility.

Schedule key: Pack can't get swept vs. Philly, Giants and Chargers in opening weeks.

Why they will finish second: Favre gives them edge over Lions and Vikings. ^DETROIT LIONS (6-10)=

Strengths: In second year under coordinator Mike Martz, offense could be explosive. QB Jon Kitna can throw to WRs Roy Williams, Mike Furrey and rookie Calvin Johnson. RBs Kevin Jones and Tatum Bell form a nice combo. Special teams are very good.

Weaknesses: Defense is a huge question mark, particularly up front and in secondary. Does DT Shaun Rogers have anything left and does he care? Will LB Boss Bailey finally develop? Offensive line also is weak.

Players to watch: Johnson, LB Ernie Sims.

Biggest change: Lions don't look like worst team in division.

Schedule key: Simple: beat Raiders in opener.

Why they will finish third: Detroit will score enough to avoid its usual spot in cellar. ^MINNESOTA VIKINGS (4-12)=

Strengths: DTs Pat Williams and Kevin Williams can't be budged, so Vikings succeed against the run. Rookie Adrian Peterson and incumbent Chester Taylor should provide strong running game behind good line led by G Steve Hutchinson and C Matt Birk.

Weaknesses: Vikings have trouble covering in the passing game and throwing the ball; they have inexperience at quarterback and no standout receivers. They'll need to keep scores low to win, perhaps very low.

Players to watch: Peterson, CB Antoine Winfield.

Biggest change: Remember the pass-happy Vikes of Culpepper and Moss? Forget it, these Vikings will try to run.

Schedule key: Games 5-8 vs. Chicago, Dallas, Philadelphia and San Diego.

Why they will finish fourth: Minnesota has taken some serious steps backward this year
 10 years ago '07        #160
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i know kitna didnt play but i was less impressed by the det def' i know some fans will dumb the game down and say it pre-season but the 3rd pre-season game is like a dress rehearsal.

i wish you guys the best during the season...and i hope you give the bears hell in the nfc north division
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