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 12 years ago '07        #51
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Mike Williams could head to Oakland

Monday, Apr 23, 2007 1:41 pm EDT

Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, who is fond of USC athletes, having once coached at the school, could be preparing to enlist Mike Williams, the former Trojans receiver who is desirous of severing his a.ssociation with the Detroit Lions.

Williams, a first-round selection in 2005, has withdrawn from the Detroit club's offseason conditioning program in the hope that the Lions will cut him and he could be reunited in Oakland with Lane Kiffin, who coached him at USC.


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i think mike came into the league in shock' he's not the greatest route runner' he doesnt have the greatest of hands...and you can only get by on talent for so long'

 12 years ago '06        #52
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no.. everybody wants out of detroit.. so all the injuries.. holdouts.. etc.. shouldnt surprise anyone.. dre bly was our pro bowl player and look what happened w him




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 12 years ago '04        #53
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Lions | M. Robinson signed
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ESPNews reports the Detroit Lions have signed WR Marcus Robinson (Vikings).

 12 years ago '07        #54
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no.. everybody wants out of detroit.. so all the injuries.. holdouts.. etc.. shouldnt surprise anyone.. dre bly was our pro bowl player and look what happened w him
so your saying that guys like carlos rogers just a bust because he didnt wanna play for the lions?

i agree that it might be hard to get players to give there all for a losing team but im not going to remove some of the blame from ppl in the front office
the lions need a new GM and someone who's going to keep the same scheme for a few yrs

 12 years ago '04        #55
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The misadventures of Millen
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
April 26, 2007

Dan Wetzel
Yahoo! Sports

ALLEN PARK, Mich. – Matt Millen knows that you think he is going to screw up the Detroit Lions' draft this weekend.

"Hey, I'm responsible, I understand that," he said Wednesday with a defense mechanism laugh and "what's-done-is-done" shrug of the shoulders.

You can say Millen is the most clueless executive in sports, but he certainly has a clue how he is perceived around the country and, at this point, seems to figure that since there isn't an explanation that would change any minds, why bother?

Of course, what else can he say?

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It's not like he hasn't botched the second-overall pick during the NFL draft before – in 2003, wide receiver Charles Rogers (already out of the league).

He might trade down, but he didn't have luck with the third overall pick in 2002 (quarterback Joey Harrington, already on his third team). And, of course, there was the 10th overall pick in 2005 (wide receiver Mike Williams, already non-productive for the Lions).

Then there are the innumerable mid- and late-round picks who have generally produced little.

"The majority of our team are those guys," Millen said.

That helps explain the 3-13 record last season. Talk about your mock draft.

Millen took over a 9-7 team in 2000 and has proceeded to win a league-worst 24 games since. That's an average of four victories a season. Four!

He's failed at picking players, signing players and hiring coaches. In addition, he's had terrible luck.

On the bright side at least he is consistent.

There can't be an executive in all of sports more despised by his fan base and yet Millen keeps on smiling.

They've chanted "Fire Millen" at not just every Lions game, but any game featuring any Detroit team (Pistons, Red Wings, Tigers). Even road games. It's a special accomplishment to have a "Fire Millen" sign appear at the World Series … in St. Louis.

The media here have been appropriately ruthless; the newspapers apoplectic; talk radio nuclear. WDFN sports radio alone has sponsored anti-Millen billboards, a "Millen Man" protest march, a fan walk-out and one game where everyone was supposed to wear the opposing team's colors.

None of it has convinced Lions owner William Clay Ford Sr. to fire Millen.

"I don't know how it is in other parts of the country," Millen smiled, "but this is not a very critical [city]. Not one critical word."

And so this is what Millen is left with, deflective humor. Who knows, at this point, maybe it will work. Say whatever you want about the guy, but he is still standing here trying to explain himself, still graciously smiling, cracking self-deprecating jokes and talking positive in the face of widespread scorn.

"Write what you want, that is your job," he offered. "That doesn't bother me."

He's a fascinating case study if only because as a player he was an unqualified success: an All-American linebacker at Penn State, a four-time Super Bowl champion in the NFL. He was even a well-regarded Fox broadcaster until, despite having no experience, he was given the presidency of the Lions.

It was called "out-of-the-box" thinking at the time. Turned out the box was a coffin.

So a guy who only knew success has suddenly only seen failure. Maybe that's why despite not needing the money or, certainly, the aggravation, he's still doing this rather than a cushy broadcast gig. He has something to prove.

You'd cut the 49-year-old some slack but he hasn't just been bad at this job, he's been historically awful.

Consider that not once under Millen have the Lions ranked in the top half of the NFL in either offense or defense. Only once has either cracked the top 20 – the defense got to 18th in 2004, when the Lions won six whole games.

Around here, those are called the glory days.

It's not just the losses either, it's the buffoonery.

The Lions once had some players file a union grievance for having to practice too hard. They once lost a game after winning the overtime coin flip yet inexplicably choosing to kick. Millen himself got caught shouting a homophobic slur and on a radio show once questioned a player's toughness by asking "where are your testicles?"

Presumably he didn't ask that of an a.ssistant coach who got arrested last year after going through a Wendy's drive-thru nekkid.

Only one person, Mr. Ford, knows how or why Millen is still employed. There is the off-chance Millen possesses some kind of Jedi mind trick that fools aging billionaires into employing him in the face of all rational thinking.

If so, he is going to make a mint teaching that on late-night infomercials. Of course, he'd have to leave the Lions first. You think you're here for years to come, Millen was asked?

"Decades," he laughed. "I like to say decades."

You'd call it gallows humor, but it might be true.

Of course, the draft is really Millen's big day. For the sixth consecutive year, he picks in the top 10. Hey, there is no substitute for experience.

This year the debate is whether Millen takes his fourth franchise wide receiver in five drafts or his second franchise quarterback in six drafts. Or if he trades down to "acquire a.ssets" which opens Saturday up to even additional potential comedy.

Needless to say, half the league is tripping over their helmet phone to try to con Millen in some deal (the Jets offered the Brooklyn Bridge).

Of course, he could go with his signature: the predictably unpredictable move.

Whatever, he vows not to consider past disasters in present decisions, swears he and his staff have been working night and day prepping and believes this is still going to work out.

As for the critics, he says snipe away. After all, he's still here, still calling the shots.

"I took this job with my eyes wide open, I know what goes on," he said. "Hey, put a target on me and start firing. [I] don't live in a vacuum. I understand it. The only way to get rid of it is to win."

Hey, now there's a plan. Maybe with the second pick they'll take a new GM.

Dan Wetzel is Yahoo! Sports' national columnist. Send Dan a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.

Updated on Thursday, Apr 26, 2007 11:45 am EDT

 12 years ago '04        #56
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The Detroit Lions organization met Friday and concluded that, unless a blockbuster trade offer comes their way, they will draft Georgia Tech wide receiver Calvin Johnson.

Many will deduce that this decision is a matter of posturing, but the organization insisted it wasn't. Nor did it sound like it. Detroit has decided that if Oakland goes with LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell, as many expect, it has no choice but to draft the next best player on its board, Johnson.

Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz was one of the key cogs in the decision, getting the rest of the organization excited about the way he would use Johnson. It should be enough to scare other teams in the NFC North.

But the Lions made it very clear Friday night that their past failures at wide receiver will not deter them from revisiting the position.

 12 years ago '04        #57
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^^which is a dayum shame......

 04-28-2007, 01:35 PM         #58
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ANOTHER WIDE RECIEVER!!!

 12 years ago '05        #59
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 04-28-2007, 01:41 PM         #60
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 04-28-2007, 02:28 PM         #61
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 04-28-2007, 04:45 PM         #62
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sh*t aint gona work out

 12 years ago '04        #63
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with Mike Williams officially being traded to the Titans, Roy Williams, Calvin Johnson, Mike Furrey and Michael Robinson should tear it up.....

well.....atleast statistically and on paper they should.

 04-28-2007, 06:41 PM         #64
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I'm just the Lions kept Tampa's Hands off of CJ. Thanks Lions

 12 years ago '04        #65
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Mike Williams = GONE
Josh McCown = GONE


Oakland just made a trade with us...

Now who are we getting in return?

 04-28-2007, 08:13 PM         #66
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damn yall got ikaika alama-francis congrats i was hoping he would go to the saints but yeah i went to school wit dat dude, he's a beast on the d-line

 04-28-2007, 08:16 PM         #67
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damn yall got ikaika alama-francis congrats i was hoping he would go to the saints but yeah i went to school wit dat dude, he's a beast on the d-line
yess sirr gotta represent

 12 years ago '07        #68
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 BobbyNitro808 said
damn yall got ikaika alama-francis congrats i was hoping he would go to the saints but yeah i went to school wit dat dude, he's a beast on the d-line
seem like a reach since he was projected to go any where from 5-7...hes rangy to me there was better DE/LB tweener types still on the board'

 04-28-2007, 08:29 PM         #69
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seem like a reach since he was projected to go any where from 5-7...hes rangy to me there was better DE/LB tweener types still on the board'
most mock drafts had him going 2nd -3rd

 12 years ago '04        #70
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Im embrassed to be in this thread...... :(

 11 years ago '04        #71
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Lions QB Kitna happy with first look at Calvin Johnson
May 16, 2007

Detroit Lions quarterback Jon Kitna throws during football practice at minicamp in Allen Park, Mich., Tuesday, May 15, 2007.
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ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- Jon Kitna got his first look at Calvin Johnson on Tuesday.

He was very happy with what he saw.

The Detroit Lions quarterback got to work with the draft's No. 2 pick at the first practice of a three-day minicamp.

"He's certainly going to be used to the best of his ability this year," Kitna said. "He's going to give us a lot of options."

Kitna acknowledged he couldn't get too excited after one non-contact workout, but he was impressed.

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"He didn't break the huddle with the baffled look that most first-year guys have when they are trying to learn ... (offensive coordinator Mike) Martz's offense," he said. "Heck, there are guys who have been working on it for a year that still don't always know what to do, but Calvin knew where he was supposed to be. He's obviously been doing his homework."

Johnson joins a revamped receiving corps built around Roy Williams and Mike Furrey, who combined for 180 catches, 2,396 yards and 13 touchdowns last season.

"Those are two men that proved what they can do last year," Lions coach Rod Marinelli said. "We don't need to ask what they are capable of doing, because they've done it. It is on film."

Detroit also added veterans Shaun McDonald, who played for Martz in St. Louis, and Marcus Robinson, who has 43 touchdowns in a 10-year career. They also picked up a pair of experienced running backs in Tatum Bell and former Michigan State star T.J. Duckett.

"This is exactly what you like to see as a quarterback," Kitna said. "I don't feel like I have to do everything by myself. I just have to get the ball into their hands."

The Lions also added players to the offensive line that was devastated by injuries last year. Detroit signed free agent guard Edwin Mulitalo, traded Dre' Bly to Denver for tackle George Foster and drafted Manny Ramirez out of Texas Tech.

"We've got a good blend of veterans who have shown what they can do in this league and young players on their way up," Marinelli said. "I think it is beginning to mold itself into a very good group."

On defense, the issue isn't new players as much as the health of the veterans. Last season, defensive tackles Shaun Rogers and Shaun Cody both missed large chunks of the season, as did several starting linebackers. All of those players are in camp this week, facing Martz's complicated offense.

"Martz is the greatest thing in the world for our defense, but he throws everything under the sun at them," Marinelli said. "We've tried to add as much speed on defense as we have on offense, and that seems to be happening."

Several players, including running back Kevin Jones (foot), tight end Dan Campbell (elbow) and Mulitalo (elbow) are attending camp but not taking part in drills. Marinelli said that Jones, who suffered a potentially career-threatening injury late last season, appears to be recovering well. "We're being told that the process is going well, but we also understand that those are only words," he said. "We won't know much more until training camp."

Defensive tackle Cory Redding is the only player not in camp after being made the team's franchise player.

Updated on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:47 am EDT

 05-17-2007, 03:17 PM         #72
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do you think they should of got rid of mike williams i mean he could of been our tight end

 11 years ago '04        #73
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thats what i thought... but aye

Unfinished business: What NFC teams must do
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Following the NFL draft, Sporting News' NFL correspondents filed reports on what teams must do to fill needs this summer. Here's what NFC correspondents see as necessary player personnel moves. Click here for AFC insight.

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East Division

Dallas Cowboys

Don't look for the team to make many moves the rest of the offseason because it likes the roster it has put together. It wouldn't mind adding a veteran nose tackle to play behind Jason Ferguson, but coaches love Jay Ratliff and are fine with him as the backup even though he might be better suited to play end. Barring an injury, management won't add a wide receiver because the depth is solid. Overall, young players just need to keep making progress.

New York Giants

The only hole the team didn't fill was at fullback, but it has serviceable Jim Finn on the roster. Look for the team to bring in at least one player to compete with Finn in training camp because it would prefer a bigger, more powerful blocker to help in the power running game. Coaches also must decide who will be their starting left tackle. The plan is to convert guard David Diehl, but the staff also likes Guy Whimper, a 2006 fourth-round pick who has made offseason strides.

Philadelphia Eagles

If the team uses C.J. Gaddis at safety, it will need more depth at cornerback. If Gaddis stays at corner, where he played at Clemson, the team could use another safety. Quintin Mikell is the only returning safety behind starters Brian Dawkins and Sean Considine. Bethel Johnson and 2006 fifth-round pick Jeremy Bloom will compete for the team's return jobs. If neither comes through, the team might have to look elsewhere during camp to find a veteran return man.

Washington Redskins

The team failed to address two of its biggest needs: defensive line and guard. Coach Joe Gibbs' insistence that the defensive line will be fine is based more on optimism than reality. A lot of hope is being placed on the improvement of second-year players Kedric Golston and Anthony Montgomery. Golston showed promise last season. Montgomery has a lot of work to do.

North Division

Chicago Bears

GM Jerry Angelo entered the draft looking to deal embittered linebacker Lance Briggs but didn't. Finding a new home for him is a priority. Then there is the issue of replacing the two-time Pro Bowl performer, though Michael Okwo is an option. With wideout Mark Bradley a question mark thanks to durability issues, the team needs a young wide receiver to develop in the spot opposite Bernard Berrian; Muhsin Muhammad, 34, is nearing the end of his career. With John Tait and Fred Miller getting older, the team needed a developmental tackle but didn't select one until it took Aaron Brant in the seventh round.

Detroit Lions

The team's biggest need -- an end with pass-rushing skills and speed off the edge -- wasn't filled in the draft. In its Tampa 2 system, it's imperative the front four provide a consistent pass rush so that blitzing is kept to a minimum. Unfortunately, the team isn't likely to find a quality end before the season starts. The team also wasn't able to achieve its goal of improving the speed at cornerback to make its scheme more versatile. It also failed to provide competition for return man Eddie Drummond.

Green Bay Packers

Management has done little to make up for the loss of running back Ahman Green and the lack of big-play receivers, and there's not much GM Ted Thompson can do about that now. A veteran receiver or back could become available, but it's not going to be anybody who can turn things around. Coach Mike McCarthy will have to develop the players he has. On defense, the team didn't address depth at cornerback, so it will have to hope Charles Woodson and Al Harris hold up.

Minnesota Vikings

The team wants competition for right guard Artis Hicks and right tackle Ryan Cook, but it first must replace reserves Mike Rosenthal and Jason Whittle. Of the current players on the roster, Anthony Herrera is a candidate to be a backup at guard and possibly center, and Marcus Johnson could serve as Cook's backup. The team must scour the waiver wire throughout the summer. Outsiders believe there's too little experience at quarterback, but the Vikings don't see a need for a veteran backup. Management was very active in signing undrafted players, including three offensive linemen.

South Division

Atlanta Falcons

Management made a halfhearted attempt to move up to the No. 2 spot to get Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson, but it decided to go with quantity over quality. Despite its 11 picks, however, the team did little to address needs at wide receiver or defensive tackle. The picks it made in those areas will not contribute immediately. That's why Vincent Marshall and Eric Newman were signed after the draft. The Falcons must find a more reliable kicker than Aaron Elling, who flopped in two seasons in Baltimore. That's why they picked up Billy Cundiff.

Carolina Panthers

Failure to get a safety means the team will need to sign at least one free agent. Mike Minter is the only experienced safety on the roster, and he will retire after the season. Management did pick up two undrafted players, Jessie Daniels and Quinton Teal. The Panthers also failed to trade defensive tackle Kris Jenkins -- they have a lot of depth at the position, so they were shopping him for a first-round pick. The team may look for a cornerback and a wide receiver who can play special teams.

New Orleans Saints

The Saints are a better team now than they were three months ago, when they lost the NFC championship game. They re-signed all their key free agents, returned 21 of 22 starters and then upgraded at six positions. The team doesn't have any glaring needs. The bigger issue will be dealing with higher expectations, an improved NFC South and a schedule that includes trips to Indianapolis, Seattle and Chicago.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

The team needs a wide receiver who can stretch defenses. Joey Galloway and Ike Hilliard are aging and Michael Clayton is showing signs of being a bust. Fullback Mike Alstott is on his last leg and B.J. Askew is just an adequate blocker. The team needs a runner who can excel in short-yardage and goal-line situations. There also is a need at tackle; only guard Anthony Davis is capable of filling in for starters Luke Petitgout and Jeremy Trueblood.

West Division

Arizona Cardinals

The team addressed its most pressing needs - a tackle (Levi Brown), a return man (Steve brea$ton) and a tight end (Ben Patrick) -- but still lacks experience at tight end and will look for a veteran at that spot. It also must add speed at running back; coaches aren't sold on No. 3 man J.J. Arrington, who has decent speed but has been a disappointment since he was drafted in the second round in 2005. On defense, the team could use young cornerbacks to compete for backup spots and needs help at outside linebacker, a position it didn't address in the draft. Travarous Bain, signed after the draft, will get a look at cornerback. David Holloway and Pago Tagafau, also undrafted, were signed for competition at linebacker.

St. Louis Rams

Attempts to acquire Panthers defensive tackle Kris Jenkins fell through, so it's debatable whether the team has done enough to improve the defense -- particularly a run defense that was ranked 31st. It had hoped to come out of the draft with an edge rusher to help on third down. It didn't happen. So Raonall Smith, who made very few plays at outside linebacker a year ago, has a chance to return in that role.

San Francisco 49ers

The defense has improved, but it lacks a dynamic pass rusher who would force teams to account for him. The Niners also have nobody lined up as an eventual replacement for end Bryant Young, who is entering his 14th season. On offense, the team heads into the season without an established No. 1 receiver. It acquired Darrell Jackson from Seattle, and he'll be given a chance to fill that role. Although he's healthy, Jackson has missed time the past two seasons with knee and toe injuries.

Seattle Seahawks

The draft did not deliver a tight end to complement Marcus Pollard. Each time the team had the chance to select one, it considered the available player too much of a reach. That means Pollard, 35, must continue to produce. Will Heller must step up as the backup. The team will look for a No. 3 quarterback, but finding one could be difficult. When it brought David Carr in and explained the opening was for the No. 3 spot, he signed with the Panthers.

Updated on Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:06 pm EDT

 05-25-2007, 08:56 PM         #74
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when yall think detroit gona get out this slump itsl iek been 10 years ri...???

yall beleive what they say that detorit dont care cuz they owned by ford..and ford just shells out money and dont care cause they got money like that ?????

but hey theres only so much fans can take...as well as players...to keep lossing....people want to win

what yall think????

im a packers fan...and i love seeing detroit and gb goin at it on thanksgiving.......jsut as much as gb vs bears

so i just want to know

 05-28-2007, 02:04 AM         #75
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sup bangabi*ch...

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