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Props Slaps
 08-01-2007, 11:11 AM         #361
shonuff12 
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 justindlawson said:
in regards to beating us....ya it is.
If you've been a red sox fan for longer than 3 years you should know better than to say this....worse things have happened to the sox in the yanks-sox rivalry..you're asking for trouble
 11 years ago '05        #362
Santoro 12 heat pts12 OP
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It ain't over yet.
 11 years ago '05        #363
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 shonuff12 said:
Sox made a good move with Gagne, but gave up some good prospects to get him...they need to win now or that was a big waste. Especially gabbard...starting pitching is hard to come by these days

As for the Yankees I am not worried..we'll be in the playoffs, even if the sox take the division
See, the reason I like this trade is, yeah we gave some good prospects, but they were at positions where we have some depth in our farm system. Gabbard was probably gonna be moved out of the rotation when Schill got back anyway, I'm pretty sure Lester is there to stay. And the Sox have some good young arms coming up through the system. David Murphy was at a position where, again, we have some depth. Again, we have a few young outfielders coming up through the system, so we could afford to part with Murphy. And Engel Beltre (I believe that was the third guy's name) is still incredibly young, and not even close to making an impact anywhere on the Red Sox big league squad for years, and at that age, who knows for sure what he could eventually become.
 08-01-2007, 07:47 PM         #364
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Pedroia is a beast and Ortiz too
 11 years ago '06        #365
Manny05 1 heat pts
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exactly ^
like i said, we still have bucholz, masterson, and lester. so gabbard was expendable which doesnt impact the organization one bit.
and murphy was in the case, we still have Moss and Ellsbury.
 08-01-2007, 10:33 PM         #366
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 Manny05 said:
exactly ^
like i said, we still have bucholz, masterson, and lester. so gabbard was expendable which doesnt impact the organization one bit.
and murphy was in the case, we still have Moss and Ellsbury.
^^^ this all depends on what they become in the future...if gabbard ends up an ace and the sox don't win the ring this year...it will look stupid in retrospect..it all depends on what happens down the line...of course it also depends on what happens with the sox other prospects...i know you guys remember the mets big three prospects Bill Pulsipher, Jason Isringhausen, and Paul Wilson they flopped and everyone thought they were the future...same goes for the Yanks and Chamberlain, Hughes, and Kennedy..they could be the building blocks for future rings or a bunch of middling nobodies
 11 years ago '06        #367
Manny05 1 heat pts
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thats a possibility ^, but im just pointing out that all the other prospect down in our farm syster have a higher ceiling and better numbers which is why i was fine with this trade.
but you're right, you have a point.
 08-02-2007, 04:28 PM         #368
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There is no possible way anyone really considers anyone other than Engel Beltre a prospect. Dave Murphy is set to turn 26 and has never hit above average in the minor leagues. Not only that there are two other left handed hitter outfielders major league ready in the Sox minor league system, both highly touted. Gabbard a 26 year old junk baller who has already had two arm/shoulder surgerys. Not only that the kid has yet to pitch a decent game outside of Fenway. Excuse me if you really think these two will become all stars. I really know nothing of Engel Beltre other than he is 17 and was highly scouted before he signed. At 16-17 who really knows what the hell this kid could do?

The sox pulled the trigger on a deal that will likely help their bullpen greatly, only giving up spare parts. Anyone who really considers Murphy or Gabbard potential allstars has seriously wayyyy overvalued their talent.

like i said, we still have bucholz, masterson, and lester
I think Bowden in the same category of talent as Masterson. While younger Bowden has pitched very well for his age. He's already at AA and only 20. Buchholz is in a league of his own tho. Much more of a talent than any other prospect in our system.


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 11 years ago '06        #369
Manny05 1 heat pts
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ah yes, forgot all about Bowden aswell ^.
Peter Gammons liked Engel aswell. supposebly he saw him pitch and projects him to be a star with all the tools that he has. but of course, the kid is 16-17 years old, so you never know. that was actually the only real good prospect that we gave up.
 11 years ago '06        #370
Manny05 1 heat pts
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what the hell..
now all of a sudden we cant beat Seatle?
out of all teams!?!/
 11 years ago '05        #371
BoSox84 
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Snapped our Safeco losing streak last night, looking to take the series today
 11 years ago '06        #372
Manny05 1 heat pts
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hopefully we do.
 11 years ago '04        #373
rashad0715 76 heat pts76
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Boston k!lled the Mariners today.
 11 years ago '06        #374
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Anyone see that schmendrick moose take Coco out on the ATV. That coulda been some serious sh*t. The pitching coach Farrell was fired up. The moose should have gotten the treatment the sausage got when daryl ward i think clubbed that bi*ch upside the head.
 11 years ago '05        #375
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 303champ239 said:
Anyone see that schmendrick moose take Coco out on the ATV. That coulda been some serious sh*t. The pitching coach Farrell was fired up. The moose should have gotten the treatment the sausage got when daryl ward i think clubbed that bi*ch upside the head.
That's what I was sayin when I saw that sh*t. If I was in that dugout, I'da ran out there with a bat in my hand
 11 years ago '05        #376
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 rashad0715 said:
Boston k!lled the Mariners today.
That 8th inning was loooong as fu*k, didn't seem like it was ever gonna end
 11 years ago '04        #377
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239
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thanks, we need that wildcard yall
 11 years ago '06        #378
Manny05 1 heat pts
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yea ^.
wouldnt mind facing NYY in the playoff.
that sh*t is intense.
 11 years ago '04        #379
GarySanchize24 239 heat pts239
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was Delcarmen worth hanging onto?
 11 years ago '06        #380
Manny05 1 heat pts
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he was before..i dunno about now lol
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