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 12 years ago '05        #326
Junior G 117 heat pts117
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^^^^ real talk right there

Scott hitting against lefty's > Diaz/Wilson hitting against lefty's


KJ will be back tomorrow though =]

 12 years ago '04        #327
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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Yeah well with KJ in the line up tonight

We win the game and are 13-6 right now..........


I don't get as angry when we lose
But when we lose because this gay a.ss lineup
Then it bothers me

 12 years ago '04        #328
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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Yeah well with KJ in the line up tonight

We win the game and are 13-6 right now..........


I don't get as angry when we lose
But when we lose because this gay a.ss lineup
Then it bothers me

 12 years ago '05        #329
Junior G 117 heat pts117
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sh*tttttttttt Mark Redman is pitching

 12 years ago '04        #330
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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 Junior G said
sh*tttttttttt Mark Redman is pitching
yeah but our offense is too much on fire to lose another game.......

Plus their pitcher is 0-1
with a 9.00 ERA


LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER HIGH SCORING EVENT

 12 years ago '05        #331
QualityRecords 12 heat pts12
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 lilsnatch770 said
yeah but our offense is too much on fire to lose another game.......

Plus their pitcher is 0-1
with a 9.00 ERA


LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER HIGH SCORING EVENT
That would look promising but, Redman is 0-3 with a 8.62 ERA.

Hopefully he can do something tonight, a lot of run production from the offense would definitely help.

 12 years ago '04        #332
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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 QualityRecords said
That would look promising but, Redman is 0-3 with a 8.62 ERA.

Hopefully he can do something tonight, a lot of run production from the offense would definitely help.

It's cool
Cormier pitched on Sunday I think in AAA

He'll come back and take Redman's spot hopefully by next week

 12 years ago '05        #333
Junior G 117 heat pts117
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The Voids in Left and First

Matt Diaz: 10-for-45 (.222); 4 runs, 2 RBI
Ryan Langerhans: 2-for-32 (.063); 0 runs, 0 RBI
Left Field: 12-for-77 (.156); 4 runs, 2 RBI

Scott Thorman: 7-for-34 (.206); 4 runs, 5 RBI
Craig Wilson: 5-for-37 (.135); 4 runs, 1 RBI
First Base: 12-for-71 (.169); 8 runs, 6 RBI

Combined: 24-for 148 (.162); 12 runs, 8 RBI

This is game 19 and we have gotten virtually nothing from two spots in the order. Is it too soon to panic? Four regulars on the club have better numbers than the combined totals of these two positions. Is this a consequence of the platoon? I think it is.

There are many people who favor platoons, which are supposed to align more desirable match-ups in favor of the batters. Obviously Bobby Cox is one of them, but there are quite a few stat junkies who point to the stats of players facing left-handers verses right-handers and deduce that this player or that player would be better in a platoon only facing the left or right armed pitcher type that he supposedly hits well against.

The a.ssumption goes like this; when the Braves acquired Matt Diaz before the 2006 season everyone was pointing to his 2005 numbers which showed his skewed stats in favor of facing lefties - "perfect platoon partner for Langerhans," they said. Diaz had hit .370 against lefties and just .143 against righties in 2005, but it just doesn't always work out that way. In 2006 Diaz put up a respectable .295 batting average verses left-handers, but he really excelled at facing right-handers, hitting a robust .358 in an almost equal number of at-bats against each.

For Langerhans' part, he has historically hit left-handers better than he has hit right-handers. Over the last two seasons he has hit left-handers at a .299 clip, while only hitting .246 against right-handers. So along this knowledge, we should really be playing Langy against the lefties and Diaz against the righties - BUT THAT DEFIES THE LOGIC OF THE PLATOON!

But then again, that a.ssumes that there is actually logic behind the platooning of players. I have never liked platoons for the simple fact that it fractures two players' playing time. It is better to give one player the vast majority of the playing time and let the other player dedicate himself to being the best bench player slash pinch hitter he can be. Defining roles for players helps all the individuals in a lineup, and also helps those who ride the pine most of the time.

Look what happened to Adam LaRoche last year. He broke out offensively, not necessarily because he was finally facing lefties, but because he was getting regular playing time. He knew he was going to be in the lineup day after day, and he was able to work through problems quicker and prepare better. In his platoon years of 04 and 05 he never got a chance to hit against lefties, but in 06 he got his chance and held his own, but the frequency of his play also improved his abilities against right-handers - he hit almost 20 points higher than in previous seasons against righties.

So there it is; my argument to quit these damned platoons. Put Thorman at first full time and Diaz in left full time and ride them for a month or so and see how they do. Let Langerhans and Wilson concentrate on being pinch hitters who get the occasional start. Instead of ruining the rhythm of four players, at least we'd only maybe ruin the rhythm of two, and the positives we might gain from regular production due to regular play would be a whole lot more than we're getting now.

 12 years ago '05        #334
Junior G 117 heat pts117
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this lineup >>>


haha look at big Scott stealing a base

 12 years ago '04        #335
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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hahaha @ us being up 4-0
and me knowing that isn't even close to enough runs for Redman to still win......


oh and hahaha @ Langerhans going 2 for 33 and still in the lineup

and the pitcher has like 33-35 pitches already and the braves have what 52 2 out RBIs now?

 12 years ago '04        #336
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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Braves are 2nd on the power rankings.....






TOLD YOU SO ABOUT REDMAN

 12 years ago '04        #337
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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3. Mark Redman will try to prove the Braves right
The Braves brought in All-Star left-hander Mark Redman this season to solidify a rotation that was shaky throughout 2006. Unfortunately for Atlanta, the Redman acquisition hasn't paid off for them yet in 2007. Through three starts, Redman hasn't posted a win and has logged an 8.62 ERA -- worst among Braves' starters. While Redman was never considered dominant with Kansas City in 2006, he has been completely ineffective this season in Atlanta.

Redman ineffective with Atlanta
REDMAN MLB AVG
% of 0-1 counts that become 0-2 37 47
% of PA's that become 3-ball counts 26 19
% of first batter out in inning 59 68

Redman has given up 22 hits in 66 at-bats, all of them being well-hit. Seventeen of the 22 hits have come off Redman's fastball, which has averaged 85 mph and has been located belt high 34 percent of the time. A subpar fastball thrown in poor locations has been a recipe for disaster so far. Redman and the Braves will be hoping for better pitch quality and results on Tuesday night against the Marlins.

 12 years ago '05        #338
Junior G 117 heat pts117
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snatch would you like to do the honors or can I k!ll Redman?

 12 years ago '04        #339
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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Let's start a

"Send Mark Redman To AAA Petition"

Get everyone at bravesnation.com to sign it and others
Send it to Bobby Cox


MAYBE he'll listen

 12 years ago '04        #340
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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all I can do is shake my head

 12 years ago '04        #341
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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Did I call it or what?

High scoring game

 12 years ago '05        #342
Junior G 117 heat pts117
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^^ hopefully it's just us...they can stop now

 12 years ago '04        #343
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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Top of the lineup

Here comes Damage

 12 years ago '04        #344
finishim 80 heat pts80
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this game is NUTS

 12 years ago '04        #345
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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Junior Question for you:

Say before the deadline comes around and a big name pitcher is available. If the Braves owners know they will lose Jones at the end of the year, would you be angry if the Braves traded for that big name pitcher and got someone else too for Jones? Along with taking that money and signing Smoltz too??

 12 years ago '04        #346
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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Another walk alright!

bases loaded

 12 years ago '04        #347
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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hahahha BYE BYE VANDEN HURK

 04-24-2007, 06:46 PM         #348
Jeans&Sneakers 
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4 runs already! when are they gonna make the move and get rid of him

 12 years ago '04        #349
finishim 80 heat pts80
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GRAND SLAM!!!!

 12 years ago '04        #350
lilsnatch770|M 102 heat pts102
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 Jeans&Sneakers said
4 runs already! when are they gonna make the move and get rid of him
When his ERA climbs to 10+
and he has about 6 losses
Im sure they will consider it then

:banghead:

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