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 11 years ago '05        #21
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The New Orleans Saints on Monday reached an agreement with defensive tackle Hollis Thomas on a four-year contract extension, ESPN.com has learned, taking the veteran off the unrestricted market just four days before the start of the free agent signing period.

Between bonuses and base salary, Thomas, 33, will earn $6 million in 2007 on a deal that totals $12 million. The 11-year veteran is the latest key player leaguewide to agree to an extension before the start of free agency, further diluting an already shallow talent pool.


Discussions between Saints officials and agent Ron Slavin were ramped up at the annual NFL scouting combine over the weekend.


It was uncertain at the end of the '06 season how the Saints would proceed with Thomas, who would have certainly drawn considerable interest in the unrestricted market, but then ultimately decided he was a player it had to retain.


One of the NFL's top interior run-stuffers during his career, and a veteran who brought leadership and toughness to New Orleans during the franchise's turnaround season in 2006, Hollis notched 43 tackles, 3 ½ sacks and one fumble recovery in his first season with the Saints.


Thomas missed four games because of a league suspension for violation of the NFL's steroid abuse policy.


The former Northern Illinois standout was acquired from Philadelphia in a draft weekend trade last spring, after spending the first 10 seasons of his career with the Eagles. He made the Philadelphia roster as an undrafted college free agent in 1996.


In 138 career appearances, Thomas has 594 tackles, 17 sacks, eight forced fumbles, seven fumble recoveries and 12 pass deflections. Because of his size and strength, he typically commands double-team blocking

 11 years ago '05        #22
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NEW ORLEANS -- The New Orleans Saints released four-time Pro
Bowl receiver Joe Horn on Thursday, saying Horn asked to be let go
after the Saints asked him to take a pay cut.

"Joe really wanted to see where his value is around the league
for his services," general manager Mickey Loomis said. "With as
much as Joe has meant to the Saints and to New Orleans, we don't
want to impede his desire to do so, and we have kept the door open
for him to return to our team."

Horn, who was the most frequent spokesman for the players during
their Katrina-enforced exile during the 2005 season, had caught 523
passes for 7,622 yards and scored a team-record 50 touchdowns since
coming to New Orleans as a free agent in 2000. He ranks second in
club history in catches and yardage, and he is the team's all-time
leader in 100-yard receiving games with 27.

Horn, who turned 35 in January, missed the Saints' last four
regular season games in 2006 and both playoff games because of a
groin injury.

He had 37 catches for 679 yards and four touchdowns during the
regular season.

In May of 2005, Horn signed a six-year extension that would have
paid him about $42 million for the life of the contract. Next
season, he was to be paid about $4.45 million and receive a $1
million roster bonus later this month.

Horn was by far the Saints best receiver during his first five
seasons with the team. In 2004, he had 1,399 yards receiving and 11
touchdowns.

In 2005, however, a hamstring injury caused his numbers to drop
dramatically to 654 yards receiving and one touchdown. It was the
first of two injury-plagued seasons the yielded numbers far below
what he had put up earlier in the decade.

He still demonstrated flashes of his old self, catching
touchdowns of 14 and 48 yards in the Saints dramatic 27-24 victory
over Philadelphia on Oct. 15. But while he was injured, other,
younger receivers emerged, including surprising rookie Marques
Colston (1,038 yards, 8 TDs) and third-year former LSU star Devery
Henderson (745 yards, 5 TDs).

Rookie running back Reggie Bush also was used as a receiver,
both out of the backfield and lining up in the slot and led the
Saints in receptions with 88 for 742 yards and two touchdowns.

The Saints also got solid contributions from third-year receiver
Terrance Copper (385 yards, 3 TDs), whose playing time increased
with Horn's injury and whom Saints coach Sean Payton liked when the
two were with the Dallas Cowboys in 2004 and 2005.

Still, Payton spoke highly of Horn upon the receiver's release
from the team.

"Joe's numbers speak for themselves, and throughout his career
here he has been everything an NFL player should be in the
community," Payton said. "He holds a special place to our fans
because of his involvement in the city and his passion on the
field. Decisions of this type arent easy, and we understand his
desire to see what his value may be with other teams."
 11 years ago '05        #23
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damn. i hate to see joe go!!! my bro called me and told me that and i couldnt believe it. but joe know when he gotta go!! gotta let them young boys do their thing!!!:banghead: :banghead:

but joe go bounce back:applause:
 11 years ago '05        #24
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courtesy of nfl network.

48 tackles, 4 sacks, 6 interceptions last year at free safety for cincy.

could be a major improvement over josh bullocks cuz that n*gga was next to fred thomas type horrible last season.
 11 years ago '05        #25
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SS from seattle who is very good in run support and is known as a big hitter. a bit of a liability in coverage and that was a main problem on our defense last year (see fred thomas or josh bullocks). i think i would rather see deon grant in black and gold which is a good possibility but i wouldnt be too upset if we signed hamlin.
 11 years ago '05        #26
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Offer to WR Copper gives team leverage
Saturday, March 03, 2007
By Jimmy Smith
The New Orleans Saints secured the last of their starting unrestricted free agents Friday night when right tackle Jon Stinchcomb agreed to a two-year, $7 million contract extension that will pay him $5 million in 2007 in bonuses and base salary.

Agent Pat Dye Jr. confirmed the deal, indicating Stinchcomb had received some interest from other teams after his contract expired at midnight Thursday. But, Dye said, Stinchcomb's priority was to remain in New Orleans.

"I'm excited about being back," Stinchcomb said Friday night. "I definitely wanted to be back in New Orleans, and I'm excited to have another couple of years here. It's so hard in this day and age of free agency to have a sense of loyalty from an organization to a player and from a player to an organization. But if it were possible, the Saints have been good to me. And I'd like to continue on with this relationship."

Stinchcomb started every game for the Saints last season, winning the job in training camp after spending the first four years of his NFL career almost as a bystander.

Stinchcomb successfully rehabilitated a torn right patellar tendon incurred in 2005's training camp -- to become one of the anchors of a remade Saints offensive line that was a key ingredient in the NFL's top-rated offense in 2006.

The new contract, he said, far exceeds the first deal he signed with the Saints after they drafted him in the second round of the 2003 draft.

"I'm excited about it," Stinchcomb said. "It's over twice what I've made in the first four years I've been in the league. It's a lot of money, and we're excited about just moving forward."

Stinchcomb is the fourth starter the Saints retained that could have tested free agency: Stinchcomb, linebacker Scott Shanle, defensive end Charles Grant and defensive tackle Hollis Thomas.

On the free-agency recruiting front, the Saints spent a relatively quiet day other than working out the deal with Stinchcomb and taking the procedural steps to hold on to a promising young wide receiver.

New Orleans gave Terrance Copper an offer Thursday of $850,000 in order to retain the right of first refusal for the receiver who replaced injured-plagued Joe Horn for a much of last season.

Ron Del Duca, Copper's agent, said Friday the Saints signed Copper to the deal Thursday. If Copper signs with another team, the Saints can match the offer or receive compensation in draft choices based on the amount of the contract.

But Del Duca said his client prefers to remain with the Saints.

"We'll wait to see what happens," Del Duca said. "We haven't heard anything from other teams. We'll wait, but he wants to go back to New Orleans. That's what free agency is all about, I guess."

Copper played in 14 regular-season games last season, starting four. He caught 23 passes for 385 yards, a 16.7-yard average, and three touchdowns. Copper joined the Saints off waivers from the Dallas Cowboys on Sept. 4 and played in every game until he was held out of the regular-season finale against Carolina with a foot injury.


very good contract to let stinch prove he is worth big money in 08 or 09. also its looking like we are gonna get copper back next season.
 11 years ago '05        #27
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by Andy Schwartz
ComcastSportsNet.com

Here's your Eagles free-agent update for Sunday:

Cornerback Rod Hood visited the Browns on Saturday and the Cardinals on Sunday. He is scheduled to visit the Saints on Wednesday.

Hood’s agent, George Mavrikes, has also spoken with the Giants but said they're "moving a little slow," and a visit has not been scheduled.

About the visit to Cleveland, Mavrikes said, “It went well. We just said we wanted to go through the motions and hear what people have to offer. We’ll see what happens. He could still go back to Philly. We’re not discounting that fact.”

Mavrikes last talked to the Eagles before the start of free agency.

Meanwhile, cornerback William James will visit the Saints on Tuesday and the Falcons on Wednesday. James’ agent, Ron Slavin, has also spoken with the Cowboys and Texans, but no visits have been scheduled.

As for James’ chances of returning to the Eagles, Slavin said:

“He likes it there. He loves Coach [Andy] Reid. You never know the way it works business-wise.”
 11 years ago '04        #28
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 K.B. said:
courtesy of nfl network.

48 tackles, 4 sacks, 6 interceptions last year at free safety for cincy.

could be a major improvement over josh bullocks cuz that n*gga was next to fred thomas type horrible last season.
bullocks wasnt that terrible, just unfortunately he had to cover all of Thomas' fu*kups in coverage...and the fact that Thomas was just gettn beat right off the line wouldnt even give Bullocks time to give help...
 11 years ago '05        #29
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come on man lol bullocks bit on the play action so much. he kept his eyes in the backfield too damn much. he was suppose to be a safety net for freddie t over the top and he often looked lost or just outta position. so there is room for improvement at his position maybe seeing someone play it well will make him a lil better.
 11 years ago '05        #30
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Kicker released by Dallas last season
Tuesday, March 06, 2007
By Jimmy Smith
The Saints will interview free-agent place-kicker Mike Vanderjagt today at the team's practice facility on Airline Drive, though Vanderjagt said Monday night he was unsure whether the team was looking at him as a field-goal specialist or merely someone to handle kickoff chores.

Vanderjagt, the most accurate place-kicker in NFL history (230 of 266 field goals, 86.5 percent), arrived Monday evening and was scheduled to meet with the Saints today.

"I was supposed to fly in and fly out without anybody knowing," Vanderjagt said.

Vanderjagt, who holds the NFL record for consecutive field goals (42, from 2002 to '04), was released by the Dallas Cowboys on Nov. 27. He made 13 of 18 field-goal attempts with the Cowboys and converted all 33 point-after attempts, but his lack of consistency couldn't justify, in Dallas' eyes, the three-year, $5.4 million contract (and $2.5 million signing bonus) Vanderjagt received during free agency last year.

Vanderjagt also, apparently, didn't like to kick off.

Last season, Saints place-kicker John Carney was 23 of 25 on field-goal attempts and missed just one of 47 extra-point attempts. He scored 115 points the ninth time in his 17-year career that Carney had scored at least 100 points and became the third player in NFL history to have kicked more than 400 field goals. Billy Cundiff, an unrestricted free agent, handled kickoff duties near the end of last season.

"I'm going to visit with them (today)," said Vanderjagt, who added the Saints would be his first visit of the free-agency period. "The Saints are my first choice. It's going to be up to them whether they keep me here or not.

"I'm quite capable of kicking off, if that's what they ask. I really haven't talked to them about what their intentions are, or what they want out of me. They mentioned (injured punter Mitch) Berger, so I don't know if he'll kick off or what. I don't have a problem kicking off. If that's what they need . . . Right now, it's just, 'Come in, sit down, and we'll see what's going on.' "
 11 years ago '05        #31
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Veteran free agent leaving Bengals after agreeing to three-year contract
Tuesday, March 06, 2007
By Jimmy Smith
The Saints made their first free-agent acquisition of the offseason when veteran linebacker Brian Simmons agreed to a three-year contract with the Saints, his agent Jerrold Colton said late Monday night.

Financial terms were not disclosed. Simmons, who has played the past nine seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals, had visited with the Saints on Saturday.

"The visit went really well; he was very impressed and had a particular affinity for Joe Vitt, the linebackers coach, and really liked everybody," Colton said. "At this stage in his career, Brian really wants to be with a team he feels can win the Super Bowl. And he really feels New Orleans is that team."

Simmons, 31, was fifth on the Bengals last season with 61 tackles in 11 games. He also had two interceptions and one forced fumble. He played collegiately at North Carolina.

Earlier in the day, the Saints visited with Carolina linebacker Chris Draft and Cincinnati safety Kevin Kaesviharn.

The Saints confirmed that today they will meet with San Francisco tight end Eric Johnson. Also, the team is expected to meet with cornerback Will James -- who was once known as Will Peterson when he played with the New York Giants -- late of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Meanwhile, Saints Coach Sean Payton refused to be drawn into controversy surrounding the departure of veteran wide receiver Joe Horn and also did not entertain questions about the team's search for free agents following a speech to the 22nd annual Loyola University Business alumni luncheon Monday.

Speaking for the first time to the New Orleans media since the decision was made to release Horn from his contract, Payton would say only that he hoped that Horn would manage to extend his career with another NFL team.

"He's someone who meant so much to the city and so much to the team, that I wish him well," Payton said of Horn. "I'm a big Joe Horn fan, someone who's behind him 100 percent. He gave us everything this year and was a big part of our success. I'm anxious to see how he does.

"This (free agency) is the tough part of the job now, different than it was 10 years ago."

Payton, meanwhile, chatted only briefly on several subjects:

On free-agent visits: "This morning I had a chance to come in and have breakfast with a few players. And we'll keep you guys posted and some time wrap up prior to the college draft where we're at."

On the starting players whom the Saints retained -- including tackle Jon Stinchcomb, defensive tackle Hollis Thomas, linebacker Scott Shanle and defensive end Charles Grant: "I think you always try to put your plan in place. Those guys were a big part of what we were able to accomplish a year ago and a big part of where we're going. We're pleased we were able to retain their services and that they wanted to come back."

On whether players will continue to be allowed to participate in offseason athletic events in which injury -- Reggie Bush's sprained ankle was mentioned -- is a possibility: "If our biggest concern in February is a sprained ankle in a pickup basketball game, or Drew getting injured playing football, I think we'll be OK. As long as those things don't happen in July and June, I'm pretty comfortable with it. I was a little disappointed in (Bush's) move to the basket. It didn't look really good. That was concerning."

On the difficulty in repeating last year's success: "I think the biggest mistake is to try to pick up where you left off. In our business you start again from Day One and start on the task at hand. Right now, it's free agency."
 11 years ago '05        #32
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Tight end Eric Johnson, formerly of the San Francisco 49ers, was the first offensive player brought in by the Saints during the free agency period and will finish up his tour today. The Saints also brought in ex-Cincinnati Bengals safety Kevin Kaesviharn on Monday.

It was Johnson's first free-agent visit even though Johnson's agent Steve Baker said other teams wanted Johnson to come to their towns first.

"We wanted to look at the Saints first because it looked like such a good fit," Baker said. "The Saints called on the first day of free agency and the sense, it's strong on both ends."

It was apparent the 49ers were ready for a new direction at tight end when they drafted Vernon Davis with the sixth overall pick in last year's draft.

Johnson caught 82 passes for 825 yards and two touchdowns in 2004, but missed all of 2005 with a torn foot muscle and all of 2003 with a broken collarbone. The six-year tight end caught 34 passes for 292 yards and two scores, but missed the last three games in '06 with a strained knee.

The Saints re-signed Billy Miller last week and also have Mark Campbell on the roster. The Saints released the oft-injured Ernie Conwell last week. If Johnson can stay on the field, he likely would compete for the starting job during training camp if signed.

"Eric's goals are No. 1 to compete for a Super Bowl and No. 2 to compete for a Pro Bowl," Baker said. "The Saints have so many weapons that they can't double cover the tight end. Eric could do both in New Orleans."

The Saints also brought in former Cincinnati Bengals safety Kevin Kaesviharn and ex-Carolina Panthers middle linebacker Chris Draft on Monday.

Kaesviharn was the third safety the Saints hosted as Ken Hamlin and Deon Grant preceded the ex-Bengal. Kaesviharn racked up 63 tackles with four sacks and six interceptions. He had one of his best days last season against the Saints with 10 tackles and an interception of All-Pro quarterback Drew Brees in the Bengals' 31-16 win on Nov. 19.

The Saints will be hosting their first cornerback today as William James will be in New Orleans today. James, who changed his name from Will Peterson, only played five games in the last two seasons with the New York Giants and Philadelphia Eagles. He sustained a stress fracture in his back in 2003 and the injury has been a lingering problem ever since. He did start 15 games in 2004 with the Giants.

As far as the Saints being interested in former Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Brandon Stokley, Stokley's agent Rick Smith said he wouldn't comment on the rumors before he was even asked about the free-agent receiver. He also wouldn't say if Stokley plans to visit with the Saints.

Ex-Saints wideout Joe Horn reportedly talked with team officials from the Atlanta Falcons on Monday. Former backup Saints linebacker Danny Clark may also be on his way out of New Orleans as he's set to visit with the Houston Texans sometime this week.

Guard Montrae Holland was the first former Saints player to sign somewhere else inking a deal with the Denver Broncos last week.

 11 years ago '05        #33
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The New Orleans Saints have signed free agent tight end Eric Johnson to a one-year contract worth about $2 million.

 11 years ago '04        #34
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Was I the only person who saw Joe Horn signing with the Falcons when the Saints released him last week ?...And what's this I heard about the Saints trying to get Darrell Jackson from Seattle ?...

Saints could be getting Dre' Bly from Denver and Ken Hamlin from Seattle...goodbye, Fred Thomas !!!...


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 03-14-2007, 07:50 AM         #35
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The New Orleans Saints continued to upgrade their defensive unit when they announced they have agreed to terms with veteran safety Kevin Kaesviharn.

"Kevin will be a good addition to our group of safeties from a productivity standpoint on the field in addition to being a leader for our young players," Saints general manager Mickey Loomis said. "He has been a solid, consistent player for the Bengals for several years and a good influence in the locker room. Kevin is the kind of player we were looking for to add to our mix on defense."

Kaesviharn, 6-1, 196 pounds, played his first six NFL seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals and in 2006 finished as their team leader with six interceptions. The product of Augustana (S.D.) was originally signed by the Bengals as a free agent in 2001. Prior to breaking into the NFL Kaesviharn broke into the professional ranks with the Arena Football League's Iowa Barnstormers (1999-2000) before moving on to the XFL in 2001 (San Francisco Demons).

Kaesviharn recorded four sacks in 2006
Kaesviharn recorded four sacks in 2006
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Kaesviharn, who was born in Lakewood, California, then was signed by the Bengals, where he forged a career that has included 87 career regular season appearances, with 47 starts to his credit. In the process, he has racked up 357 career defensive tackles, 15 interceptions for 101 return yards, 47 career passes defensed, six sacks, four fumble recoveries and two forced fumbles.

Kaesviharn, whose last name is pronounced "CASE-vih-harn," is no stranger to Saints fans, had a career-high six interceptions in 2006, including one in the end zone at New Orleans in the Bengals' 31-16 victory on November 19. In that contest had nine total tackles, including 1.5 sacks, and his interception thwarted a Saints scoring drive. For the season, he collected 58 tackles, four sacks (third on the team), and three of his six interceptions were in the end zone, with two of the interceptions (at Pittsburgh and vs. Carolina) ending potential game-winning touchdown efforts by the opponents in the fourth quarter that sealed Bengal victories.

In 2005, Kaesviharn, 30, recorded a career-high 92 tackles when he started all 16 games and helped the Bengals win the AFC North and advance to the playoffs, the first time they had reached the playoffs since the 1990 season. In addition, he played in 94.5% of the Bengals' defensive snaps that season, the most by any player on their team. Kaesviharn, who has the ability to play both safety and cornerback, is a Thai decent, as his father was born in Thailand. He was given the nickname "Keanu" by some Bengals fans due to his resemblance to actor Keanu Reeves.

Kaesviharn is the third unrestricted free agent from another team to sign with the club this off-season, joining former Bengals teammate Brian Simmons (linebacker) and former San Francisco 49ers tight end Eric Johnson. The team has also retained several of their own prominent free agents, including defensive tackle Hollis Thomas, right tackle Jon Stinchcomb, tight end Billy Miller, defensive tackle Antwan Lake and linebacker Scott Shanle, while placing the franchise tag on defensive end Charles Grant.
Now we need another CB
 11 years ago '05        #36
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 9th ward Bally said:
Was I the only person who saw Joe Horn signing with the Falcons when the Saints released him last week ?...And what's this I heard about the Saints trying to get Darrell Jackson from Seattle ?...

Saints could be getting Dre' Bly from Denver and Ken Hamlin from Seattle...goodbye, Fred Thomas !!!...
Fred Thomas bein released should have been #1 on the Saints To-Do List!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: Hurry up and let his a.ss go. but the Saints making moves. :applause:
 03-15-2007, 09:47 PM         #37
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i think we need another wr. not on the top of the to-do list but definitely a need cuz joe horn was a big release. even though we have colston and henderson we need another wr and i heard they were interested in keenan mccardell. also if one of the young cbs are available in the draft it would be interesting to see. i know leon hall out of michigan won't be available but aaron ross from texas, the safety from florida, or the cb houston from arkansas are good cbs i think. but i'm not a scout so whoever they pick i hope fits in perfectly.
 03-19-2007, 03:10 PM         #38
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I'm hoping we get Aaron Ross although I did hear that the Saints really are taking a good look at drafting him. I def think that would be a good pick-up. Another WR sounds good also, we can always use another WR.
 11 years ago '05        #39
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there have been some reports that payton really likes ted ginn and some experts have his stock falling. u never know what him and loomis will come up with come draft day.
 11 years ago '04        #40
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 K.B. said:
there have been some reports that payton really likes ted ginn and some experts have his stock falling. u never know what him and loomis will come up with come draft day.
i heard the same thing...that would be DANGEROUS!!! Ginn AND Bush on the field together...i think that would make the Saints one of, if not THE most explosive, unpredictable offenses in the league, IF Ginn performs well once he gets to the NFL....

....BUT...i think N.O. needs cornerback help to be addressed FIRST in the Draft...they haven't succeeded in bringing in ANY help there so far, so id like to see em pick up Chris Houston, or Aaron Ross, or even Darrelle Revis with that first pick...THEN, if Ginn drops THAT far (which i highly doubt), pick him up with the second pick....

btw...did William James (formerly Will Peterson with the Giants) ever sign anywhere? i remember he came to N.O. on a visit, but havent heard anything about a deal being worked out with the Saints or any other team for that matter...
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