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Draft discussion and offseason moves will be updated here. If u got something to add post it up.

Saints 07 free agents:

[CODE]Unrestricted Free Agents

DE Charles Grant (Tagged)

OT Jon Stinchcomb (resign to 2 year deal)

WR Michael Lewis

TE Billy Miller (resign to 1 year deal)

OG Montrae Holland (signed with the broncos 1 year deal)

OG Jermane Mayberry

DT Antwan Lake (resign to 2 year deal)

DT Hollis Thomas (resign to 4 year deal)

LB Scott Shanle (resign to 4 year deal)

LB Danny Clark (sign with texans)

LB James Allen

LB Tommy Polley

CB DeJuan Groce

S Omar Stoutmire

S Jay Bellamy (resign to 1 year deal)




restricted Free Agents

WR Terrance Copper (resign to 1 year deal)

DT Rodney Leisle (resign to 1 year deal)

LB Terrence Melton

CB Curtis Deloatch
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Salary Cap

[CODE]New Orleans - $29.9M
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Team Needs
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1. CB - Fred Thomas will be gone atleast i hope so he got torched all year and always seems to slip or fall on double moves he is just a liability.

2. MLB - im sure we all know Simoneau should never be in this position he got blasted all season and never seemed to get off of a block and make the stop.

3. DT - we more than likely will keep big hollis but we need another big body to plug up the middle for our run defense. *we got hollis locked up for 4 years which i dont think he gonna last but we still must address our other DT position cuz young just wont cut it*

4. DE - if grant leaves. *got tagged and was unhappy about it*

5. WR - horn probably not gonna come back for less money so we need to fill that void he said he isnt gonna to redo his contact. *looks like that happened*

6. QB - everything is riding on brees and if he gets injured im sure no one has any faith in jamie martin.

7. FS - this may need to be addressed as bullocks hasnt performed well at all this season. he was suppose to be a safety net for freddy t over the top but he often looks lost and is often out of position. lets not forget he isnt that great of tackler either. all and all his fundamentals are under review and this may be another problem needs extra like the CB position.
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 01-26-2007, 12:46 AM         #2
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they gone keep charles grant but i think they gone draft the mlb from penn state Paul Posluszny then next round they gone get a db and plus my rookie of the year the wr Marques Colston is horn replacement

 12 years ago '05        #3
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yea i really think they gonna resign him. there are a number of spots on defense that need to be taken care of this offseason mainly DT, MLB, CB.

 12 years ago '05        #4
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Senior Bowl Player/Team Observations
New Orleans Saints

01-23-07:
DeMarcus Tyler, DT, North Carolina St.
Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss

01-24-07:
Buster Davis, LB, Florida St.
Prescott Burgess, LB, Michigan
Earl Everett, LB, Florida
[CODE]Courtesy of www.nfldraftcountdown.com[/CODE]

01-24-07:
Juwan Simpson, LB, Alabama
[CODE]Courtesy of www.ontheclockdraft.com[/CODE]

seems like they really trying to get that LB situation taken care of

 12 years ago '05        #5
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By Viking Update Staff

Posted Jan 24, 2007

The Saints' magical season came to an end last Sunday, and, if reports VU is hearing out of the Big Easy are true, it could be the last game for wide receiver Joe Horn as a member of the Saints -- which could make him a candidate to be a potential No. 1 receiver with the Vikings.

Itís clear that the Vikings are going to overhaul their receivers corps between now and when training camp opens in late July. Marcus Robinson has already been released, whispers out of Winter Park have it that neither Travis Taylor nor Bethel Johnson are likely to be back, and Troy Williamson has been a monumental disappointment.

While the focus of many fans has been on the draft because of a shortage of top-end free agent wide receivers, VU has been told about a big name that could surface in the comings weeks or months.

Joe Horn was a rallying point for many Saints fans, but, as the team cleaned out its lockers for the season following their NFC Championship Game loss to the Bears, Horn made it clear that he believes he still has a lot to offer and isnít sure the Saints will be where his future takes him. Horn, who is set to make $4 million next year, has been slowed with injuries the last two seasons, but said he believes he can still play at a Pro Bowl level. He also made it clear that he will not accept a pay cut and, if the team holds firm, heís willing to accept his release and move on elsewhere.

With a dearth of young talent at wide receiver and the omnipresent Reggie Bush serving as a breakaway receiving threat from the running back spot, the Saints have a lot of depth and talent and Hornís $4 million salary doesnít seem to be a perfect fit, especially if he is unwilling to take a pay cut to stay in New Orleans. The Saints dumped Donte Stallworth last year and he became a go-to receiver for the Eagles. The Vikings may end up in a similar position with Horn.

While thereís no immediate word if the Vikings have any interest in a player like Horn, what is certain is that the wide receiver corps needs a lot of revamping and the group we see in 2007 may bear little resemblance to the group from 2006. If Horn could become available, he could be a big missing piece to that puzzle for the Vikings

 12 years ago '05        #6
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i just hope the Saints get rid of Fred Thomas!!!! if the Saints retain him, imma whip Fred Thomas a.ss personally!!!!!!!!!!!

 01-28-2007, 02:42 PM         #7
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the saints will be good next year even though they went to the championship game this year.

 01-28-2007, 07:41 PM         #8
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I have Super Bowl hopes for next year. Sean Payton is running a good organization.

 01-29-2007, 10:46 PM         #9
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I believe we make a strong push for either ashante samuel or nate clements. Then we pick up donnie Edwards in FA then patrick willis in the first round. That would be great if that did happen. Edwards can groom willis till hes ready to unleash.

 12 years ago '05        #10
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**Saints-Steelers Hall of Fame Game - August 5th

** = Only on the nfl network....

 12 years ago '05        #11
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 Gerdy F Baby said
I believe we make a strong push for either ashante samuel or nate clements. Then we pick up donnie Edwards in FA then patrick willis in the first round. That would be great if that did happen. Edwards can groom willis till hes ready to unleash.
well its official now that he wont be back in san diego. i know we tried to trade for him last year so im sure the front office is gonna really push to get him for this coming season.


 02-09-2007, 02:06 PM         #12
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Biggs upps to the season yall had last year. Bush, Colsten, and Brees gave that team some spirit and life. Im thinking yall gona be a force for several years. If Sean Peyton stays sharp and keeps the team on the right track I see a superbowl


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 12 years ago '05        #13
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Brees gonna be out for 6-8 weeks

HONOLULU -- New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees dislocated his left elbow in the first quarter of the Pro Bowl on Saturday.

Brees, who throws right-handed, didn't break any bones.

Brees made the All-Pro team while leading the resurgent Saints to the NFC Championship Game, but was injured while throwing a fourth-down incompletion on the NFC's second drive at the NFL all-star game. The NFC starter went 2-of-7 for 23 yards in the scoreless first quarter.

The AFC won 31-28 on Nate Kaeding's 21-yard field goal as time expired.

Brees, who passed for 4,418 yards and 26 touchdowns this season to earn his second trip to the Pro Bowl, didn't return to the game -- but coach Sean Payton wasn't likely to play his New Orleans star much beyond the opening quarter, anyway.

While the All-Pro quarterback's injury seems unlikely to affect next season, the threat of injury exists in any football game -- even a low-key, halfhearted affair such as the NFL's all-star game.

"You never want to see anybody get hurt in a game like this, where it's just an exhibition," said Kansas City tight end Tony Gonzalez, a veteran of eight Pro Bowls. "Hopefully it's not something big."

Despite the ever-present threat, serious injuries are rare in the Pro Bowl -- and even moderate injuries usually have at least three months to heal before most clubs open minicamps.

Defensive players typically don't deliver their hardest hits in Hawaii, and Brees -- who throws right-handed -- didn't appear to get hit particularly hard while throwing a fourth-down incompletion on the NFC's second offensive series.

Washington safety Sean Taylor ignored those rules of decorum in the third quarter when he hit Buffalo's Brian Moorman hard enough to knock the punter's legs at least 2 feet off the ground. But Moorman, who had been attempting a fake run, popped up and ran onto the field to say hello to Taylor.

"Believe it or not, it wasn't as bad as it looked," Moorman said.

Indianapolis receiver Marvin Harrison used the only surefire technique for avoiding injuries in this exhibition: The new champion didn't play, watching from the sideline and wearing a Pro Bowl cap instead of a helmet.

Washington tackle Chris Samuels also didn't play.


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 02-12-2007, 02:38 AM         #14
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 K.B. said
Washington safety Sean Taylor ignored those rules of decorum in the third quarter when he hit Buffalo's Brian Moorman hard enough to knock the punter's legs at least 2 feet off the ground. But Moorman, who had been attempting a fake run, popped up and ran onto the field to say hello to Taylor.
"Believe it or not, it wasn't as bad as it looked," Moorman said.
damn that was a hit

 12 years ago '05        #15
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By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Moving to retain a key young defensive player who helped spur their resurgence in 2006, the New Orleans Saints on Friday night signed starting weakside linebacker Scott Shanle to a four-year contract extension.

The extension runs through the 2010 season. Without it, Shanle would have been eligible for unrestricted free agency March 2, and, given his play last season, he would have drawn interest from other suitors.

Financial details of the extension were not immediately available, but Shanle likely received a substantial boost after playing the 2006 season for a base salary of $721,600.

"Making sure Scott returned to our team was one of our priorities entering the offseason," general manager Mickey Loomis said. "He is a player who is an integral part of the group that we want to build around. This is a really positive way to get 2007 started."

A four-year veteran, Shanle entered the NFL as a seventh-round choice of the St. Louis Rams in 2003. When the former Nebraska standout was released by St. Louis, he was claimed by the Dallas Cowboys on waivers.

After spending the first three seasons of his career with the Cowboys, appearing in 37 games with 11 starts, Shanle was traded to New Orleans last August for a conditional draft choice.

In the revamped Saints defense, Shanle appeared in all 16 games, starting all but one. He registered 117 tackles, second most on the team, and led New Orleans in solo tackles with 77. Shanle also had four sacks, one pass defended and a forced fumble.

For his career, Shanle has 236 tackles, 6Ĺ sacks and four passes defended.

 12 years ago '04        #16
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i would like for them to have went after either Asante Samuel or Lance Briggs in FA period, but nevermind since they both got franchised....

 12 years ago '05        #17
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they were gonna demand a big deal anyway. i would rather they go after a few other people that wont break the bank and can still produce.

 12 years ago '05        #18
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By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Barring an unexpected breakthrough in contract negotiations, ESPN.com has learned that the New Orleans Saints will designate left defensive end Charles Grant as a franchise player before Thursday's deadline, a move that will keep him off the unrestricted free agent market.

There has been virtually no momentum in contract discussions since the end of the season, and it will take considerable progress in the next few days to even close the gap in talks, much less reach an accord. Teams who want to exercise the franchise or transition marker on a player have until Thursday to do so.

The value of the franchise marker for a defensive end, which basically represents a one-year qualifying offer, is $8.66 million.

If the Saints use the franchise tag, Grant will be able to negotiate with other teams, and New Orleans will have a right of first refusal. But the cost for another club to sign a franchise player is exorbitant, with compensation set at a air of first-round draft choices, so franchise players rarely change teams.

Grant had hoped to avoid the franchise tag because of the acrimony it typically entails and because, like most pending free agents, he would prefer to be unrestricted.

A former University of Georgia standout, Grant, 28, was New Orleans' first-round choice in the 2002 draft and has played his entire career under his original contract.

Grant, who has never missed a game in five seasons, comprises half of a standout defensive end tandem, teaming with another former first-round choice, Will Smith. Most experts feel that Smith is the better all-around player, but there is no denying Grant is a force.

He is an intense two-way performer, a defender whose motor typically runs high, and who plays well versus the run and the pass. Without the franchise tag, his value would be further enhanced in what projects as a very thin unrestricted free agent market.

In 80 appearances, Grant has 298 tackles, 36 sacks, one interception, 24 passes defensed, 15 forced fumbles and five recoveries. He totaled 20Ĺ sacks in 2003-04, but fell off to just 2Ĺ sacks in 2005, before improving to six in 2006.

With the Thursday deadline looming, there have been four players -- Chicago weakside linebacker Lance Briggs, Cincinnati defensive end Justin Smith, New England cornerback Asante Samuel and defensive end Dwight Freeney of the Super Bowl-champion Colts -- designated as franchise players.

Senior writer Len Pasquarelli covers the NFL for ESPN.com


 02-20-2007, 02:58 PM         #19
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i know charles grant didnt want to be franchised....... does anybody know of his comments about it

 12 years ago '05        #20
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anybody catch the interview charles grant had on sirius radio. he was pretty pissed at the saints for slapping that tag on him and tellin him during the season he wasnt worth the tag. he also said they offered him "backup" money and he feels that he is worth more than they are offering. he was mad about them only offering him a contact once during the season. him and big hollis dont seem too happy with the saints front office when it has come to deals this offseason..... to be continued....

 12 years ago '05        #21
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The New Orleans Saints on Monday reached an agreement with defensive tackle Hollis Thomas on a four-year contract extension, ESPN.com has learned, taking the veteran off the unrestricted market just four days before the start of the free agent signing period.

Between bonuses and base salary, Thomas, 33, will earn $6 million in 2007 on a deal that totals $12 million. The 11-year veteran is the latest key player leaguewide to agree to an extension before the start of free agency, further diluting an already shallow talent pool.


Discussions between Saints officials and agent Ron Slavin were ramped up at the annual NFL scouting combine over the weekend.


It was uncertain at the end of the '06 season how the Saints would proceed with Thomas, who would have certainly drawn considerable interest in the unrestricted market, but then ultimately decided he was a player it had to retain.


One of the NFL's top interior run-stuffers during his career, and a veteran who brought leadership and toughness to New Orleans during the franchise's turnaround season in 2006, Hollis notched 43 tackles, 3 Ĺ sacks and one fumble recovery in his first season with the Saints.


Thomas missed four games because of a league suspension for violation of the NFL's steroid abuse policy.


The former Northern Illinois standout was acquired from Philadelphia in a draft weekend trade last spring, after spending the first 10 seasons of his career with the Eagles. He made the Philadelphia roster as an undrafted college free agent in 1996.


In 138 career appearances, Thomas has 594 tackles, 17 sacks, eight forced fumbles, seven fumble recoveries and 12 pass deflections. Because of his size and strength, he typically commands double-team blocking


 12 years ago '05        #22
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NEW ORLEANS -- The New Orleans Saints released four-time Pro
Bowl receiver Joe Horn on Thursday, saying Horn asked to be let go
after the Saints asked him to take a pay cut.

"Joe really wanted to see where his value is around the league
for his services," general manager Mickey Loomis said. "With as
much as Joe has meant to the Saints and to New Orleans, we don't
want to impede his desire to do so, and we have kept the door open
for him to return to our team."

Horn, who was the most frequent spokesman for the players during
their Katrina-enforced exile during the 2005 season, had caught 523
passes for 7,622 yards and scored a team-record 50 touchdowns since
coming to New Orleans as a free agent in 2000. He ranks second in
club history in catches and yardage, and he is the team's all-time
leader in 100-yard receiving games with 27.

Horn, who turned 35 in January, missed the Saints' last four
regular season games in 2006 and both playoff games because of a
groin injury.

He had 37 catches for 679 yards and four touchdowns during the
regular season.

In May of 2005, Horn signed a six-year extension that would have
paid him about $42 million for the life of the contract. Next
season, he was to be paid about $4.45 million and receive a $1
million roster bonus later this month.

Horn was by far the Saints best receiver during his first five
seasons with the team. In 2004, he had 1,399 yards receiving and 11
touchdowns.

In 2005, however, a hamstring injury caused his numbers to drop
dramatically to 654 yards receiving and one touchdown. It was the
first of two injury-plagued seasons the yielded numbers far below
what he had put up earlier in the decade.

He still demonstrated flashes of his old self, catching
touchdowns of 14 and 48 yards in the Saints dramatic 27-24 victory
over Philadelphia on Oct. 15. But while he was injured, other,
younger receivers emerged, including surprising rookie Marques
Colston (1,038 yards, 8 TDs) and third-year former LSU star Devery
Henderson (745 yards, 5 TDs).

Rookie running back Reggie Bush also was used as a receiver,
both out of the backfield and lining up in the slot and led the
Saints in receptions with 88 for 742 yards and two touchdowns.

The Saints also got solid contributions from third-year receiver
Terrance Copper (385 yards, 3 TDs), whose playing time increased
with Horn's injury and whom Saints coach Sean Payton liked when the
two were with the Dallas Cowboys in 2004 and 2005.

Still, Payton spoke highly of Horn upon the receiver's release
from the team.

"Joe's numbers speak for themselves, and throughout his career
here he has been everything an NFL player should be in the
community," Payton said. "He holds a special place to our fans
because of his involvement in the city and his passion on the
field. Decisions of this type arent easy, and we understand his
desire to see what his value may be with other teams."

 12 years ago '05        #23
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damn. i hate to see joe go!!! my bro called me and told me that and i couldnt believe it. but joe know when he gotta go!! gotta let them young boys do their thing!!!:banghead: :banghead:

but joe go bounce back:applause:

 12 years ago '05        #24
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courtesy of nfl network.

48 tackles, 4 sacks, 6 interceptions last year at free safety for cincy.

could be a major improvement over josh bullocks cuz that n*gga was next to fred thomas type horrible last season.

 12 years ago '05        #25
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SS from seattle who is very good in run support and is known as a big hitter. a bit of a liability in coverage and that was a main problem on our defense last year (see fred thomas or josh bullocks). i think i would rather see deon grant in black and gold which is a good possibility but i wouldnt be too upset if we signed hamlin.

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