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 3 years ago '04        #11401
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GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- The New York Knicks finished last season with just 37 wins thanks in part to "bad energy," according to star forward Carmelo Anthony.

The energy is different this season, Anthony said. And that is one reason the team is off to a 2-1 start.

"I think just overall, not pointing anything out, but just overall from day one last year the energy was just not right," Anthony said after practice on Monday. "This year, you could just feel the total difference stepping into this gym, talking to guys, talking to the staff, talking to the players. Everybody has a newfound energy so it's just a lot different now."

Phil Jackson took over as team president in March and overhauled the roster in the offseason, trading away Tyson Chandler and Raymond Felton. The move was designed, in part, to "change some of the chemistry" of the Knicks, Jackson said.

Jackson also fired coach Mike Woodson and hired Derek Fisher. Anthony's a.ssertion that the "energy was not right" from the first day of training camp last season may have been a reference to owner James Dolan's decision to fire general manager Glen Grunwald days before training camp.

Anthony did not want to talk about specific reasons for the team's culture change. But, when he was asked directly about Chandler, Anthony made it clear that he wasn't singling out the former Defensive Player of the Year.

"I'm not talking about no players, I'm just talking about as a whole, as a whole," Anthony said. "As an organization, as a whole, the energy was just different last year from day one. It ain't have nothing to do with the players. When we walked in here from day one from training camp, media day the energy was just different."

So why did the Knicks have "bad energy" last season?

"I won't go into details. It's deeper than us going out and losing basketball games," Anthony said. "For whatever reason, it happened. We looked at that. The organization looked at that. And they made some great changes."

The Knicks are off to a surprising 2-1 start. After a blowout loss to Chicago to open the season, New York upset Cleveland in LeBron James' first game of the season and beat upstart Charlotte at home on Sunday night.

The Knicks face the Washington Wizards at home on Tuesday night.

"We want to build on what we started the last couple of games," Anthony said.
 3 years ago '04        #11402
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GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- Iman Shumpert says he isn’t worried about his potential free agency in the summer of 2015 after the Knicks declined to extend his contract at the Oct. 31 deadline.

“I can’t think about that. We make the playoffs and I do what I’m supposed to do, things will happen,” Shumpert said late Sunday night. “But until I do that, I can’t worry about it. ...

“I’m worried about winning games. Like I’ve said, that was the worst year of my life last year and I don’t ever want to feel that again. Mentally I just want to keep playing well and keep everything positive.”

So far, so good.

Shumpert has played a key role in the Knicks’ past two wins, particularly late in games. His fourth-quarter defense on LeBron James was key in New York’s win over Cleveland on Thursday.

On Sunday, Shumpert was disruptive on defense in the fourth quarter against Charlotte. He also knocked down a 3-pointer with two minutes to play to tie the game, finishing with a season-high 15 points, six rebounds and four a.ssists. Shumpert made five of his 11 shots, many of which appeared to come within the framework of the offense.

“I think in practicing all those shots and in games, I know if I come off a screen and they deliver the ball right away I know I’m probably wide open,” Shumpert said. “Just step and knock it in.”

Derek Fisher has started Shumpert at shooting guard in the season’s first three games. On Sunday night, Shumpert was asked if that was an indication to him that he was a part of the Knicks’ future.

“I’ve started most of the time I’ve been in a Knick jersey, so I just think they want me to bring a certain energy every night. They want me to bring that defensive presence because they know I can make something out of nothing on defense and I think they just want me to bring that defensive presence every day,” Shumpert said. “I don’t think it has anything to do with an extension.”

The Knicks appear to be focused on creating as much cap space as possible to use in free agency this coming summer. It will be interesting to see how this approach impacts their thinking on Shumpert.


Acy probable for Wizards game: Quincy Acy landed awkwardly after a hard fall in Sunday’s win over Charlotte and is listed as probable for Tuesday’s game against Washington. Fisher expects him to play, but the coach is not ready to announce his starting lineup. There is a possibility that Fisher may go with a different lineup than the one he’s used over the past two games, featuring Acy at power forward and Samuel Dalembert at center.
 3 years ago '04        #11404
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Adam Zangoria

Tobias Harris returns home to New York tonight when the Orlando Magic meet the Knicks in a battle of 2-6 teams.

But the Long Island product could end up staying in his hometown for much longer if he ends up signing with the Knicks as a restricted free agent next summer.

“I’m telling you if the Knicks come at him hard, who wouldn’t want to play for their hometown team?” a Harris confidant told SNY.tv and The Knicks Blog.

The source pointed out that the 6-foot-9 Harris plays well alongside Knicks star Carmelo Anthony. The pair worked out together multiple times this summer at Terminal 23, Anthony’s midtown gym.

“They play well together,” the confidant said. “Carmelo always had him on his team when Kevin Durant came to town and they would win every game.”

The 2010 New York Mr. Basketball and a McDonald’s All-American, Harris starred at Half Hollow Hills West and Long Island Lutheran before spending one year at Tennessee before becoming the 19th pick in the 2011 NBA Draft.

Harris is currently averaging 16.7 points and 8.1 rebounds and went for 23 points, 13 boards and 5 a.ssists when Orlando fell at Toronto, 104-100, Tuesday night.

Ironically, Harris is now teammates with his first cousin, Channing Frye, a White Plains native who was the Knicks’ first-round pick in 2005.

The Knicks will have cap space next summer after the contracts of Amar’e Stoudemire and Andrea Bargnani expire, and Harris is the type of skilled young talent who could fit in well into the triangle.

“Next year they’re going to have a whole different team,” the confidant said.

As a restricted free agent, the Magic will be able to match any offer sheet Harris signs with another team.

But as previously reported on ZAGSBLOG, Harris gets an upgrade in his Nike contract if he plays in either New York, Chicago or Los Angeles.
 3 years ago '04        #11405
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Berman

Knicks coach Derek Fisher distanced himself from Phil Jackson’s comments earlier this week in which the team president said he will know by December which players will master the triangle offense and which players won’t.

Jackson’s remarks appeared to be a warning that if a player is still struggling to get the complex offense by then, he could be dealt. The trade season kicks off Dec. 15, when all players are eligible to be dealt.

For his part, Fisher said that putting a date on when a player will get the triangle is not in his thinking. Each players learns it at his own pace.

“I don’t know if it’s a fair a.ssessment or not,’’ Fisher said before the Knicks’ 97-95 loss Wednesday night to the Magic — their sixth straight defeat. “[Phil] obviously knows a lot about his offense, but I think it’s more than just a guy is going to get it. Each player and person has different learning curves. I don’t know if there’s a date.

“It’s more where our team is from a management standpoint. For me, I don’t have a date on when I would a.ssume a guy should or shouldn’t have it. I’m going to coach him until he’s here or isn’t here. Those won’t be my decisions.’’

On Monday in his State-of-Zen Address, Jackson said: “There’s still quite a ways from their execution capabilities as a team. We think in terms of basketball-wise, Thanksgiving, December, it’s time to really say if you haven’t gotten it by now, maybe we’ll have to think of you as a learner or not a learner as a ballplayer at that time.’’

J.R. Smith, who scored 19 points, in particular, has seemed uncomfortable in the offense. Smith, who could have gained some redemption by hitting the final shot in Wednesday’s loss, is a big trade candidate and the Pacers have some interest.

Smith can opt out of his contract after the season, but he still could opt in, costing the Knicks cap space. They believe there is a strong market for Smith and aren’t looking to just dump him for an expiring contract, according to a league source.

Jose Calderon (calf) said he’s unlikely to be ready for practice Thursday, but indicated perhaps he will be after the weekend.

Calderon said he believes he needs just one practice and then hopes to make his season debut.

“I want to play as soon as possible,” Calderon said. “It’s getting close.’’
Wednesday was the two-week mark of the Knicks announcing Calderon was out 2-3 weeks.

“There’s no question [we miss him],” said Samuel Dalembert, also Calderon’s teammate with the Mavericks. “I play with Shane [Larkin], he has terrific speed, and I don’t see guys who can keep up with him, but the thing about it is the experience. You can’t compare it. Shane is really learning.

“I can’t really wait for Jose to come back also because that’s going to bring a different level of experience to the squad in games that you’ll be able to see.’’

Fisher still won’t give a timetable on when Andrea Bargnani (hamstring) will return. … Fisher started Quincy Acy at power forward, moved Anthony back to the No. 3 spot and sent Tim Hardaway Jr. to the bench. But Hardaway, who scored just two points, started the second half. … Dalembert had two points, but grabbed seven rebounds and also had five blocks.
 3 years ago '04        #11406
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Begley

On a certain level, J.R. Smith has come a long way as a crunch-time option over the past 10 months. He blew a tied game in Houston in January because he thought the New York Knicks were actually down two points, an error prompting him to fire up a wayward 3-pointer with 20 seconds left rather than hold the ball for the last shot.

This time around, Smith at least had a firm grasp of the score and the clock when he let go of his 27-footer while Carmelo Anthony stood to the side with his arms out and palms turned skyward, striking a pose reminiscent of Bud Selig's at the end of that tied All-Star Game way back when.

If you get a chance to play back the video of Wednesday night's final sequence, right after Pablo Prigioni inbounded to Smith with 3.5 seconds left in Orlando's 97-95 victory, stop the action at the 2.6-second mark. In that frame you see the moment Smith made his fateful choice in his team's sixth consecutive defeat.

Prigioni had cleared out his defender, Elfrid Payton, whose head was turned away from the ball. Anthony had his left arm extended on the wing, calling for the pass while sealing off rookie Aaron Gordon with his right arm. Smith was looking at Anthony while the Magic defender guarding the ball, Evan Fournier, was briefly overplaying Smith to his left and giving him a clear passing lane to Melo.

The pass was the right play, of course, because Anthony is the $124 million superstar more than capable of making the catch with two seconds left, squaring his body and freezing the rookie, and then rising up with that quick-as-Dan Marino release of his and getting the desired look.

But Smith's choice to rely on his own pull-up jumper that crashed amateurishly off the glass and sent Anthony on a dejected march off the court was hardly the worst decision he's ever made, even if Melo was 10-for-17 from the floor (Smith would finish 6-for-16) and had just made a 3. In fact, given that Smith drained a couple of big shots in between his selfish and insubordinate acts over the years, this bad call wouldn't make his personal bottom 10 during his time in New York.

So more than anything else, the scene served as a mere reminder that the Knicks need to get rid of Smith sooner rather than later, and that nobody will take Phil Jackson's culture change too seriously as long as the shooting guard is part of the culture.

If Jackson's out there trying to trade Smith, he's not trying hard enough. The Knicks' president doesn't have to convince 29 teams that Smith is a gamble worth taking; he needs to convince only one.

"J.R. has had a lot of issues but he can be a big-time scorer when he's doing the right things," said one high-ranking league executive. "There's always a team out there willing to take a chance on somebody if they feel he can put them over the top, and there's no doubt J.R. can play. People are going to be concerned about chemistry issues in the locker room, so it would have to be a strong leadership and coaching staff that take him in."

Smith is 29, in his prime, banking nearly $6 million this season with a $6.4 million player option for next year. Older and lesser players with more forbidding contracts have been dealt before.

Already burdened by a losing team and a disconnect between the newbies and his cherished triangle offense, Jackson said he wanted to know by the holidays which Knicks qualify as learners, and which do not. He doesn't need to wait to find out about Smith, who answered Jackson's question before it was asked with this hard-to-believe quote:

"Trying to think about the rest of the team over myself or my scoring is something that I never really had to do before."

Smith is the ultimate square peg that's never fitting into selfless triangular concepts, and his résumé of misdeeds says it all. The elbow to Jason Terry that cost the Knicks dearly in the 2013 playoffs. The inappropriate tweets. The five-game drug suspension. The shoelace thing. The headband thing. The Rihanna partying thing. The night he staged a boycott and refused to shoot. The time he suggested the Knicks betrayed him by cutting his brother Chris, who didn't deserve a roster spot to begin with.

Smith spent a lot of time and energy disrespecting Mike Woodson, and unwittingly called into question Anthony's leadership as well. If a franchise player can't impose his will on a supplemental piece gone awry, is he really a franchise player?

Jackson did Melo a solid by trading Raymond Felton, a bad actor and worse point guard, and by replacing him with Jose Calderon, who needs to get healthy soon. But in the name of improving team harmony, Jackson erred in the same deal by shipping out Tyson Chandler, a longtime grinder and achiever whose one NBA crime was deciding last season -- and not incorrectly -- that Woodson was overmatched to the nth degree.

Jackson saw the big man as a necessary sacrifice to make Felton disappear, but so far Chandler-for-Samuel Dalembert has been a Hollywood-sized bust. At least Dalembert is coming off the books at season's end; the same can't be said of Smith, a.ssuming he exercises his option. Jackson inherited that option, and now he has to make it someone else's problem.

At practice Thursday, Smith was Derek Fisher's problem. As much as Jackson's coach defended the spirit of Smith's endgame decision against Orlando, and as much as he reminded that the Steve Kerrs and Robert Horrys and John Paxsons (and Derek Fishers, of course) sometimes took the big shots instead of the MJs and Kobes and Shaqs, Fisher conceded that Smith didn't make the proper read.

"But we cleaned some of that up today in terms of understanding what we want on that sequence," Fisher said, "and I think that will help not just J.R., but all of our guys the next time we're in that spot."

Before meeting with the news media, Fisher huddled with a.ssistants Kurt Rambis and Jim Cleamons while standing on the practice-court spot that approximated where Anthony stood on the Garden floor against Orlando, calling in vain for the ball. Fisher made some subtle turns and moves as if he were acting out a play.

"It just wasn't as high a percentage a shot as we would like to get in that situation," he said of Smith's launch.

Neither the shooting guard nor Anthony was made available to reporters a day after the Knicks lost at home to a 2-6 team that was playing for the second time in two nights. Wednesday night, Anthony said he wanted the ball but that Smith had an open shot. "Or thought he had an open shot," he added.

Everyone expected these growing pains with Fisher and the Knicks and Jackson's triangle, and the absences of Calderon and Andrea Bargnani sure haven't helped. But growing pains signal growth to come, and J.R. Smith isn't going to get better, or more team-centric.

He is who he is, and Phil Jackson shouldn't wait for the holidays to decide that isn't good enough.
 3 years ago '04        #11407
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 3 years ago '04        #11408
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nice for Sanchez & Gallo to make the cut
 3 years ago '04        #11409
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Why do you guys even come in here in post and not in the main NBA forum. LAMES. NYLAWSEETERNAL
 3 years ago '04        #11410
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Why do you even care?
 3 years ago '07        #11411
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Melo has become a cancer and its hard to watch




  16 - 22 STRK: 1 w in a row WIN PCT: 42% 508 (0) 
  Career: | Aug 16: 47-24, Rank #82 | Aug 15: 53-44, Rank #135 | Aug 14: 155-91, Rank #48 | Aug 13: 64-32, Rank #54 | Aug 12: 212-123, Rank #30 | Aug 11: 333-187, Rank #38 | Aug 10: 1090-567, Rank #11 | Aug 09: 2-1, Rank #328 | Aug 08: 3-1, Rank #625 *
 3 years ago '07        #11412
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 Funeral James said:
Melo has become a cancer and its hard to watch
More like it's hard to watch Melo with these other inconsistent cancerous players around him...

Can't expect the man to score 50 in 40+ min with an iffy knee & iffy back. He just has to rest & chalk this year up to "In Phil We Trust."
 3 years ago '07        #11413
Funeral James 24 heat pts24
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 I Am The Truth said:
More like it's hard to watch Melo with these other inconsistent cancerous players around him...

Can't expect the man to score 50 in 40+ min with an iffy knee & iffy back. He just has to rest & chalk this year up to "In Phil We Trust."
Seems like people don't want to blame Melo but I think the problem is him and he's shooting terrible..him and amare get paid the most so I expect them to work the hardest




  16 - 22 STRK: 1 w in a row WIN PCT: 42% 508 (0) 
  Career: | Aug 16: 47-24, Rank #82 | Aug 15: 53-44, Rank #135 | Aug 14: 155-91, Rank #48 | Aug 13: 64-32, Rank #54 | Aug 12: 212-123, Rank #30 | Aug 11: 333-187, Rank #38 | Aug 10: 1090-567, Rank #11 | Aug 09: 2-1, Rank #328 | Aug 08: 3-1, Rank #625 *
 3 years ago '08        #11414
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He gotta stop shooting 3's when he was with denver he was more of a post up player and yeah the team around him is bad jr smith is terrible
 3 years ago '07        #11415
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 Funeral James said:
Seems like people don't want to blame Melo but I think the problem is him and he's shooting terrible..him and amare get paid the most so I expect them to work the hardest
I can see that... his shooting is terribly off this year. And as much as I've been a big Stat supporter, he is handcuffing us with his contract. Bargs too. Still don't know why we didn't re-sign Shane Larkin, but oh well. We need a fresh start next year, plus I hope we can keep our lotto pick this year.
 3 years ago '11        #11416
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this team is trash
 3 years ago '07        #11417
Truth B T0ld 3 heat pts
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Sell the franchise.
 3 years ago '04        #11418
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bi*chboy Broussard

The New York Knicks were en route to their fifth straight loss last week against Brooklyn when a frustrated Tim Hardaway Jr. screamed angrily, "Get the rebound!''

Certain his second-year teammate was speaking to him, Carmelo Anthony approached Hardaway on the way down the court and used an expletive to ask Hardaway who in the world he thought he was talking to.

Anthony, according to sources, then used another expletive in telling Hardaway he was going to beat him up when they got into the locker room after the game.

While the two players never wound up f!ghting, the episode was emblematic of the volatile state of the Knicks. Off to their worst start in franchise history at 4-19, the Knicks are a team full of discord, defiance and doubt, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

"Nobody's taken a swing at anybody, but there's a lot of arguing and cursing each other out after games,'' one source said.

In addition to the Knicks' lack of chemistry, sources say the players believe coach Derek Fisher's insistence on running the triangle offense is another key reason for New York's struggles.

Anthony could not be reached for comment Wednesday. The Knicks play at San Antonio on Wednesday night, and Anthony said after Tuesday's 104-93 loss at New Orleans -- New York's ninth straight defeat -- that he is considering giving his ailing right knee a rest.

Several Knicks, in addition to Hardaway, are at odds with Anthony and believe he's not playing team basketball. Sources said players voiced their displeasure with Anthony this past weekend, telling him he shoots too much, doesn't move or pass the ball, and only plays defense when he feels like it.

Sources said the most tension exists between Anthony and Hardaway as they haven't cared for one another almost since Hardaway joined the team last season, with each player believing the other shoots too much and doesn't care about defense. Sources said Hardaway was also bothered by the favorable treatment Anthony received under last year's coach, Mike Woodson.

Sources said one thing Anthony and his teammates do agree on is their disdain for the triangle offense. For weeks, if not longer, the players have been ready to ditch the triangle and move on to another system. They feel like other teams know what they're going to run and where they're going to go on the court, which makes it easier to stop them.

When team president Phil Jackson gave his "state of the team'' address Monday, he said the Knicks players have shown defiance to the changes he and Fisher have made in the name of "changing the culture.''

"There's some resistance to discipline and order and culture change and things like that,'' Jackson said.

The players' dislike for the triangle is a part of that. But there is more.

Last year, under Woodson, the Knicks switched on defense. This year, under Fisher, they don't switch, which has some players grumbling.

Also, the day after losses, Woodson would typically hold voluntarily workouts that were light and non-demanding. Fisher, however, holds full-fledged practices and works the players hard.

"Guys are definitely frustrated,'' one source said. "But some of it's just basketball stuff that the players don't like doing. When somebody's demanding that you make a hard cut, you don't like it because you have to work harder. When someone says it's not OK to throw a bull---- pass, guys don't like it.''

But the players don't feel like Fisher is being too hard on them, sources said. In fact, some feel his sideline demeanor is too stoic and they'd like to see more emotion out of him.

"They almost want to see Fisher get upset during a game,'' one source said. "They want to know that their coach will go to battle with them, that he'll f!ght for them. They're not seeing any emotion out of him.''

With free agents who signed before Sept. 16 becoming available for trade Dec. 15, the Knicks could look to make roster changes soon -- with sources saying J.R. Smith is the player they'd most like to trade.
 3 years ago '04        #11419
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and for those wondering, yes the Celtics have talked to the Knicks about Rondo
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Begley

The New York Knicks are one of several teams that the Boston Celtics have engaged in trade discussions involving point guard Rajon Rondo, sources have told ESPN.com’s Marc Stein.

The Dallas Mavericks appear to have the best shot to land Rondo at this point, Stein reports.

The Sacramento Kings, Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers have also talked to Boston about Rondo, but Dallas is in the “most advanced talks,” Stein reports.

That the Knicks have engaged the Celtics in talks regarding Rondo is intriguing. On one hand, they have to at least talk to the Celtics if Rondo is available. But is he a good fit for them?

The triangle offense values a guard’s ability to shoot and distribute, more so than it does his ability to get to the rim.

Rondo, who is expected to test free agency this summer, has never been a strong shooter.

But he would be a significant upgrade at point guard for the Knicks, who, led by Jose Calderon, are off to a horrendous 5-22 start.

The Knicks, according to a league source, have been “very active” working the phones since Dec. 15, the date at which free agents can be traded.

When thinking about trades and the Knicks, it’s worth noting that Phil Jackson said earlier this month that he’d only consider trading for a player that was a good long-term fit for the organization.

It’s also worth wondering what the Knicks would be able to give up for Rondo. The Dallas Mavericks, according to Stein's report, are talking to Boston about a package that includes multiple picks, including at least one first-rounder, and young big man Brandan Wright.

The Knicks’ earliest first-round pick that can be included in a trade is 2018, and, judging by the way the roster has performed, the trade values of players currently on the roster aren’t exactly at an all-time high these days.

If the Knicks traded for Rondo, it would likely be with the a.ssurance that he’d sign a long-term contract with them. That development, obviously, would eat up a significant portion of their 2015 cap space.
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