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 3 years ago '04        #11402
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Tobias Harris returns home to New York tonight when the Orlando Magic meet the Knicks in a battle of 2-6 teams.

But the Long Island product could end up staying in his hometown for much longer if he ends up signing with the Knicks as a restricted free agent next summer.

“I’m telling you if the Knicks come at him hard, who wouldn’t want to play for their hometown team?” a Harris confidant told SNY.tv and The Knicks Blog.

The source pointed out that the 6-foot-9 Harris plays well alongside Knicks star Carmelo Anthony. The pair worked out together multiple times this summer at Terminal 23, Anthony’s midtown gym.

“They play well together,” the confidant said. “Carmelo always had him on his team when Kevin Durant came to town and they would win every game.”

The 2010 New York Mr. Basketball and a McDonald’s All-American, Harris starred at Half Hollow Hills West and Long Island Lutheran before spending one year at Tennessee before becoming the 19th pick in the 2011 NBA Draft.

Harris is currently averaging 16.7 points and 8.1 rebounds and went for 23 points, 13 boards and 5 a.ssists when Orlando fell at Toronto, 104-100, Tuesday night.

Ironically, Harris is now teammates with his first cousin, Channing Frye, a White Plains native who was the Knicks’ first-round pick in 2005.

The Knicks will have cap space next summer after the contracts of Amar’e Stoudemire and Andrea Bargnani expire, and Harris is the type of skilled young talent who could fit in well into the triangle.

“Next year they’re going to have a whole different team,” the confidant said.

As a restricted free agent, the Magic will be able to match any offer sheet Harris signs with another team.

But as previously reported on ZAGSBLOG, Harris gets an upgrade in his Nike contract if he plays in either New York, Chicago or Los Angeles.
 3 years ago '04        #11403
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Knicks coach Derek Fisher distanced himself from Phil Jackson’s comments earlier this week in which the team president said he will know by December which players will master the triangle offense and which players won’t.

Jackson’s remarks appeared to be a warning that if a player is still struggling to get the complex offense by then, he could be dealt. The trade season kicks off Dec. 15, when all players are eligible to be dealt.

For his part, Fisher said that putting a date on when a player will get the triangle is not in his thinking. Each players learns it at his own pace.

“I don’t know if it’s a fair a.ssessment or not,’’ Fisher said before the Knicks’ 97-95 loss Wednesday night to the Magic — their sixth straight defeat. “[Phil] obviously knows a lot about his offense, but I think it’s more than just a guy is going to get it. Each player and person has different learning curves. I don’t know if there’s a date.

“It’s more where our team is from a management standpoint. For me, I don’t have a date on when I would a.ssume a guy should or shouldn’t have it. I’m going to coach him until he’s here or isn’t here. Those won’t be my decisions.’’

On Monday in his State-of-Zen Address, Jackson said: “There’s still quite a ways from their execution capabilities as a team. We think in terms of basketball-wise, Thanksgiving, December, it’s time to really say if you haven’t gotten it by now, maybe we’ll have to think of you as a learner or not a learner as a ballplayer at that time.’’

J.R. Smith, who scored 19 points, in particular, has seemed uncomfortable in the offense. Smith, who could have gained some redemption by hitting the final shot in Wednesday’s loss, is a big trade candidate and the Pacers have some interest.

Smith can opt out of his contract after the season, but he still could opt in, costing the Knicks cap space. They believe there is a strong market for Smith and aren’t looking to just dump him for an expiring contract, according to a league source.

Jose Calderon (calf) said he’s unlikely to be ready for practice Thursday, but indicated perhaps he will be after the weekend.

Calderon said he believes he needs just one practice and then hopes to make his season debut.

“I want to play as soon as possible,” Calderon said. “It’s getting close.’’
Wednesday was the two-week mark of the Knicks announcing Calderon was out 2-3 weeks.

“There’s no question [we miss him],” said Samuel Dalembert, also Calderon’s teammate with the Mavericks. “I play with Shane [Larkin], he has terrific speed, and I don’t see guys who can keep up with him, but the thing about it is the experience. You can’t compare it. Shane is really learning.

“I can’t really wait for Jose to come back also because that’s going to bring a different level of experience to the squad in games that you’ll be able to see.’’

Fisher still won’t give a timetable on when Andrea Bargnani (hamstring) will return. … Fisher started Quincy Acy at power forward, moved Anthony back to the No. 3 spot and sent Tim Hardaway Jr. to the bench. But Hardaway, who scored just two points, started the second half. … Dalembert had two points, but grabbed seven rebounds and also had five blocks.
 3 years ago '04        #11404
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On a certain level, J.R. Smith has come a long way as a crunch-time option over the past 10 months. He blew a tied game in Houston in January because he thought the New York Knicks were actually down two points, an error prompting him to fire up a wayward 3-pointer with 20 seconds left rather than hold the ball for the last shot.

This time around, Smith at least had a firm grasp of the score and the clock when he let go of his 27-footer while Carmelo Anthony stood to the side with his arms out and palms turned skyward, striking a pose reminiscent of Bud Selig's at the end of that tied All-Star Game way back when.

If you get a chance to play back the video of Wednesday night's final sequence, right after Pablo Prigioni inbounded to Smith with 3.5 seconds left in Orlando's 97-95 victory, stop the action at the 2.6-second mark. In that frame you see the moment Smith made his fateful choice in his team's sixth consecutive defeat.

Prigioni had cleared out his defender, Elfrid Payton, whose head was turned away from the ball. Anthony had his left arm extended on the wing, calling for the pass while sealing off rookie Aaron Gordon with his right arm. Smith was looking at Anthony while the Magic defender guarding the ball, Evan Fournier, was briefly overplaying Smith to his left and giving him a clear passing lane to Melo.

The pass was the right play, of course, because Anthony is the $124 million superstar more than capable of making the catch with two seconds left, squaring his body and freezing the rookie, and then rising up with that quick-as-Dan Marino release of his and getting the desired look.

But Smith's choice to rely on his own pull-up jumper that crashed amateurishly off the glass and sent Anthony on a dejected march off the court was hardly the worst decision he's ever made, even if Melo was 10-for-17 from the floor (Smith would finish 6-for-16) and had just made a 3. In fact, given that Smith drained a couple of big shots in between his selfish and insubordinate acts over the years, this bad call wouldn't make his personal bottom 10 during his time in New York.

So more than anything else, the scene served as a mere reminder that the Knicks need to get rid of Smith sooner rather than later, and that nobody will take Phil Jackson's culture change too seriously as long as the shooting guard is part of the culture.

If Jackson's out there trying to trade Smith, he's not trying hard enough. The Knicks' president doesn't have to convince 29 teams that Smith is a gamble worth taking; he needs to convince only one.

"J.R. has had a lot of issues but he can be a big-time scorer when he's doing the right things," said one high-ranking league executive. "There's always a team out there willing to take a chance on somebody if they feel he can put them over the top, and there's no doubt J.R. can play. People are going to be concerned about chemistry issues in the locker room, so it would have to be a strong leadership and coaching staff that take him in."

Smith is 29, in his prime, banking nearly $6 million this season with a $6.4 million player option for next year. Older and lesser players with more forbidding contracts have been dealt before.

Already burdened by a losing team and a disconnect between the newbies and his cherished triangle offense, Jackson said he wanted to know by the holidays which Knicks qualify as learners, and which do not. He doesn't need to wait to find out about Smith, who answered Jackson's question before it was asked with this hard-to-believe quote:

"Trying to think about the rest of the team over myself or my scoring is something that I never really had to do before."

Smith is the ultimate square peg that's never fitting into selfless triangular concepts, and his résumé of misdeeds says it all. The elbow to Jason Terry that cost the Knicks dearly in the 2013 playoffs. The inappropriate tweets. The five-game drug suspension. The shoelace thing. The headband thing. The Rihanna partying thing. The night he staged a boycott and refused to shoot. The time he suggested the Knicks betrayed him by cutting his brother Chris, who didn't deserve a roster spot to begin with.

Smith spent a lot of time and energy disrespecting Mike Woodson, and unwittingly called into question Anthony's leadership as well. If a franchise player can't impose his will on a supplemental piece gone awry, is he really a franchise player?

Jackson did Melo a solid by trading Raymond Felton, a bad actor and worse point guard, and by replacing him with Jose Calderon, who needs to get healthy soon. But in the name of improving team harmony, Jackson erred in the same deal by shipping out Tyson Chandler, a longtime grinder and achiever whose one NBA crime was deciding last season -- and not incorrectly -- that Woodson was overmatched to the nth degree.

Jackson saw the big man as a necessary sacrifice to make Felton disappear, but so far Chandler-for-Samuel Dalembert has been a Hollywood-sized bust. At least Dalembert is coming off the books at season's end; the same can't be said of Smith, a.ssuming he exercises his option. Jackson inherited that option, and now he has to make it someone else's problem.

At practice Thursday, Smith was Derek Fisher's problem. As much as Jackson's coach defended the spirit of Smith's endgame decision against Orlando, and as much as he reminded that the Steve Kerrs and Robert Horrys and John Paxsons (and Derek Fishers, of course) sometimes took the big shots instead of the MJs and Kobes and Shaqs, Fisher conceded that Smith didn't make the proper read.

"But we cleaned some of that up today in terms of understanding what we want on that sequence," Fisher said, "and I think that will help not just J.R., but all of our guys the next time we're in that spot."

Before meeting with the news media, Fisher huddled with a.ssistants Kurt Rambis and Jim Cleamons while standing on the practice-court spot that approximated where Anthony stood on the Garden floor against Orlando, calling in vain for the ball. Fisher made some subtle turns and moves as if he were acting out a play.

"It just wasn't as high a percentage a shot as we would like to get in that situation," he said of Smith's launch.

Neither the shooting guard nor Anthony was made available to reporters a day after the Knicks lost at home to a 2-6 team that was playing for the second time in two nights. Wednesday night, Anthony said he wanted the ball but that Smith had an open shot. "Or thought he had an open shot," he added.

Everyone expected these growing pains with Fisher and the Knicks and Jackson's triangle, and the absences of Calderon and Andrea Bargnani sure haven't helped. But growing pains signal growth to come, and J.R. Smith isn't going to get better, or more team-centric.

He is who he is, and Phil Jackson shouldn't wait for the holidays to decide that isn't good enough.
 3 years ago '04        #11405
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 3 years ago '04        #11406
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nice for Sanchez & Gallo to make the cut
 3 years ago '04        #11407
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Why do you guys even come in here in post and not in the main NBA forum. LAMES. NYLAWSEETERNAL
 3 years ago '04        #11408
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Why do you even care?
 3 years ago '07        #11409
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Melo has become a cancer and its hard to watch
 3 years ago '07        #11410
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 Funeral James said:
Melo has become a cancer and its hard to watch
More like it's hard to watch Melo with these other inconsistent cancerous players around him...

Can't expect the man to score 50 in 40+ min with an iffy knee & iffy back. He just has to rest & chalk this year up to "In Phil We Trust."
 3 years ago '07        #11411
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 I Am The Truth said:
More like it's hard to watch Melo with these other inconsistent cancerous players around him...

Can't expect the man to score 50 in 40+ min with an iffy knee & iffy back. He just has to rest & chalk this year up to "In Phil We Trust."
Seems like people don't want to blame Melo but I think the problem is him and he's shooting terrible..him and amare get paid the most so I expect them to work the hardest
 3 years ago '08        #11412
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He gotta stop shooting 3's when he was with denver he was more of a post up player and yeah the team around him is bad jr smith is terrible
 3 years ago '07        #11413
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 Funeral James said:
Seems like people don't want to blame Melo but I think the problem is him and he's shooting terrible..him and amare get paid the most so I expect them to work the hardest
I can see that... his shooting is terribly off this year. And as much as I've been a big Stat supporter, he is handcuffing us with his contract. Bargs too. Still don't know why we didn't re-sign Shane Larkin, but oh well. We need a fresh start next year, plus I hope we can keep our lotto pick this year.
 3 years ago '11        #11414
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this team is trash
 3 years ago '07        #11415
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Sell the franchise.
 3 years ago '04        #11416
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bi*chboy Broussard

The New York Knicks were en route to their fifth straight loss last week against Brooklyn when a frustrated Tim Hardaway Jr. screamed angrily, "Get the rebound!''

Certain his second-year teammate was speaking to him, Carmelo Anthony approached Hardaway on the way down the court and used an expletive to ask Hardaway who in the world he thought he was talking to.

Anthony, according to sources, then used another expletive in telling Hardaway he was going to beat him up when they got into the locker room after the game.

While the two players never wound up f!ghting, the episode was emblematic of the volatile state of the Knicks. Off to their worst start in franchise history at 4-19, the Knicks are a team full of discord, defiance and doubt, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

"Nobody's taken a swing at anybody, but there's a lot of arguing and cursing each other out after games,'' one source said.

In addition to the Knicks' lack of chemistry, sources say the players believe coach Derek Fisher's insistence on running the triangle offense is another key reason for New York's struggles.

Anthony could not be reached for comment Wednesday. The Knicks play at San Antonio on Wednesday night, and Anthony said after Tuesday's 104-93 loss at New Orleans -- New York's ninth straight defeat -- that he is considering giving his ailing right knee a rest.

Several Knicks, in addition to Hardaway, are at odds with Anthony and believe he's not playing team basketball. Sources said players voiced their displeasure with Anthony this past weekend, telling him he shoots too much, doesn't move or pass the ball, and only plays defense when he feels like it.

Sources said the most tension exists between Anthony and Hardaway as they haven't cared for one another almost since Hardaway joined the team last season, with each player believing the other shoots too much and doesn't care about defense. Sources said Hardaway was also bothered by the favorable treatment Anthony received under last year's coach, Mike Woodson.

Sources said one thing Anthony and his teammates do agree on is their disdain for the triangle offense. For weeks, if not longer, the players have been ready to ditch the triangle and move on to another system. They feel like other teams know what they're going to run and where they're going to go on the court, which makes it easier to stop them.

When team president Phil Jackson gave his "state of the team'' address Monday, he said the Knicks players have shown defiance to the changes he and Fisher have made in the name of "changing the culture.''

"There's some resistance to discipline and order and culture change and things like that,'' Jackson said.

The players' dislike for the triangle is a part of that. But there is more.

Last year, under Woodson, the Knicks switched on defense. This year, under Fisher, they don't switch, which has some players grumbling.

Also, the day after losses, Woodson would typically hold voluntarily workouts that were light and non-demanding. Fisher, however, holds full-fledged practices and works the players hard.

"Guys are definitely frustrated,'' one source said. "But some of it's just basketball stuff that the players don't like doing. When somebody's demanding that you make a hard cut, you don't like it because you have to work harder. When someone says it's not OK to throw a bull---- pass, guys don't like it.''

But the players don't feel like Fisher is being too hard on them, sources said. In fact, some feel his sideline demeanor is too stoic and they'd like to see more emotion out of him.

"They almost want to see Fisher get upset during a game,'' one source said. "They want to know that their coach will go to battle with them, that he'll f!ght for them. They're not seeing any emotion out of him.''

With free agents who signed before Sept. 16 becoming available for trade Dec. 15, the Knicks could look to make roster changes soon -- with sources saying J.R. Smith is the player they'd most like to trade.
 3 years ago '04        #11417
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and for those wondering, yes the Celtics have talked to the Knicks about Rondo
 3 years ago '04        #11418
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The New York Knicks are one of several teams that the Boston Celtics have engaged in trade discussions involving point guard Rajon Rondo, sources have told ESPN.com’s Marc Stein.

The Dallas Mavericks appear to have the best shot to land Rondo at this point, Stein reports.

The Sacramento Kings, Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers have also talked to Boston about Rondo, but Dallas is in the “most advanced talks,” Stein reports.

That the Knicks have engaged the Celtics in talks regarding Rondo is intriguing. On one hand, they have to at least talk to the Celtics if Rondo is available. But is he a good fit for them?

The triangle offense values a guard’s ability to shoot and distribute, more so than it does his ability to get to the rim.

Rondo, who is expected to test free agency this summer, has never been a strong shooter.

But he would be a significant upgrade at point guard for the Knicks, who, led by Jose Calderon, are off to a horrendous 5-22 start.

The Knicks, according to a league source, have been “very active” working the phones since Dec. 15, the date at which free agents can be traded.

When thinking about trades and the Knicks, it’s worth noting that Phil Jackson said earlier this month that he’d only consider trading for a player that was a good long-term fit for the organization.

It’s also worth wondering what the Knicks would be able to give up for Rondo. The Dallas Mavericks, according to Stein's report, are talking to Boston about a package that includes multiple picks, including at least one first-rounder, and young big man Brandan Wright.

The Knicks’ earliest first-round pick that can be included in a trade is 2018, and, judging by the way the roster has performed, the trade values of players currently on the roster aren’t exactly at an all-time high these days.

If the Knicks traded for Rondo, it would likely be with the a.ssurance that he’d sign a long-term contract with them. That development, obviously, would eat up a significant portion of their 2015 cap space.
 3 years ago '04        #11419
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NEW YORK -- Goran Dragic is going to consider all of his options in free agency this summer -- including the New York Knicks.

“Every team that is going to be available for me is going to be an option,” the Phoenix point guard said before Saturday’s game against the Knicks. “I think New York, they have great base of fans, [a] great basketball organization [and] in the past few years they didn’t play so well. ... That luck can change quick. It’s still too soon to think about that.”

Dragic has a $7.5 million player option for the 2015-16 season that he is expected to decline. Phoenix, according to reports, will make re-signing Dragic a priority. But between Isaiah Thomas and Eric Bledsoe, they have $14.4 million dedicated to the point guard position next season.

So Dragic may be deemed expendable. There have also been reports that Phoenix would explore its trade options with the 28-year-old Dragic.

Dragic insisted on Saturday that he’s not thinking about free agency at this point in the season.

Instead, he’s focusing on the daily grind of the NBA season with the Suns.

For what it’s worth, though, Dragic did say that he disagrees with Charles Barkley’s theory that free agents will not be attracted to the Knicks because of the Phil Jackson factor.

“Why not? He did an amazing job with the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers,” Dragic told ESPN New York. “I know right now he’s in a different situation -- he’s not coaching that team. But still, I think he has enough knowledge -- he won so many championships -- that he knows what he needs to bring to try to get the team better.”

Dragic added: “You have the great Phil Jackson on this team and then the fans are amazing. Every game is sold out.”

He also didn't think that the Knicks' poor record would be a deterrent for potential free agents.

"It can change quickly," he said.

The Knicks have started the season 5-23. So the light at the end of the tunnel for fans is New York's potential to be a big player in free agency this summer and its first-round draft pick.

The Knicks are expected to have enough cap space to sign a max free agent this summer. So they will have plenty of money to make a strong offer to one of the big names on the market.

It sounds like Dragic will be interested.
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Developing their young players soon will be the new credo of this catastrophic 5-30 Knicks’ season, and it eventually could lead to the signing of D-League point guard Langston Galloway to a 10-day contract.

The 6-foot-2 Galloway, a standout on the Knicks’ summer-league team and member of the training-camp roster after going undrafted out of St. Joseph’s, is impressing Phil Jackson as point guard for the inaugural Westchester Knicks.

According to a source, Jackson believes Galloway could be part of the future as a sharp-shooting triangle point guard. Ten-day contracts can be issued starting Jan. 5.

“He’s learning how to be a point guard,” a league source said of Galloway’s Westchester stint.

The conundrum is Galloway can be signed to a 10-day starting Jan. 5 by any NBA team because he technically is a free agent. Only Knicks draft picks, such as Greek guard Thanasis Antetokounmpo, also on Westchester, can’t be signed by other clubs.

The issue is the Knicks would have to create a roster spot for Galloway.

“I’m confident he’ll get his chance this season,” Galloway’s Philadelphia-based agent, Michael Seigel, told The Post. “Who that team is, whether it’s the Knicks or not, I don’t know.’’

The Knicks could waive undrafted forward Travis Wear, whose contract won’t become fully guaranteed until Jan. 10, and try to sign him for Westchester to keep him in the system.

Or the Knicks finally can release injury-plagued Andrea Bargnani, who made his season debut against the Clippers on New Year’s Eve but is back on the shelf after reinjuring his calf against Detroit on Friday.

Bargnani has an expiring contract.

The Knicks are concerned Galloway could be signed elsewhere before they open a roster spot. The D-League Showcase is held Jan. 15-19 in Santa Cruz, Calif., and Galloway will attend. After the preview of the top D-League players, a series of signings often take place.

The Knicks have enough point guards on their roster in veterans Jose Calderon, Pablo Prigioni and youngster Shane Larkin. But the Knicks decided against exercising the $2 million option on Larkin for next season, perhaps thinking Galloway can come cheaper.

Galloway is nowhere as speedy as Larkin but is a much-better 3-point shooter, rebounder and considered a cerebral player.

The Knicks thinking is Galloway’s smarts and 3-point ability makes up for his lack of penetration ability, which isn’t as vital in the triangle. Plus, he is rebounding better than Westchester’s bigs.

Galloway was a point guard in high school and as a freshman at St. Joe’s before being converted to a shooting guard. He is averaging 16.4. 6.2 rebounds, 2.4 a.ssists and 2.7 steals per game and shooting 44.5 percent — 35 percent from 3-point land.

Meanwhile, Antetokounmpo, selected in the second round last June, is brother of the Greek Freak, Giannis, whose Bucks play at the Garden on Sunday.

The defensive-minded Antetokounmpo still is a project, though also hoping to land on the Knicks roster by season’s end. But there is no urgency from Knicks brass.
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