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 4 years ago '07        #11361
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 King Henry said:
Looks like the starting lineup opening night is gonna be Calderon, Shump, Melo, Jason Smith, and Dalembert opening night according to what Fish said today
Hmmm...

So 2nd Unit is

Cole / Bargs
STAT / Quincy
JR / Early / Outlaw
Timmy
Larkin / Pablo

What Fish needs to do is reduce the rotation to 10 dudes... max 11. Outlaw doesn't need PT. Something tells me Bargs is gonna be chillin on that hamstring for a good 2 weeks til he can run without pain... Early ain't gonna see many minutes in the first few weeks, but I hope he does.
 4 years ago '08        #11362
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2nd unit might end up playing better than the starters
 10-26-2014, 02:47 AM         #11363
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I'm tired of Outlaw already.
 4 years ago '07        #11364
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 Kitsch said:
I'm tired of Outlaw already.
Word is we might cut Outlaw & keep Wear. Which I'm cool with. Him & his brother were big underachievers at UNC, but he's matured some and could be useful, at least on the Westchester team since he won't get much run with us.


btw... it's off topic but somehow I sense a mid-season trade with this roster... Idk why but I do. With us getting way better from it too. Looking forward to this season.
 10-26-2014, 07:13 AM         #11365
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 I Am The Truth said:
btw... it's off topic but somehow I sense a mid-season trade with this roster... Idk why but I do. With us getting way better from it too. Looking forward to this season.
 4 years ago '04        #11366
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yeah, team is looking to either waive or trade (i'm hoping trade to get something outta him) Outlaw in favor of Wear
 10-26-2014, 01:19 PM         #11367
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yeah, team is looking to either waive or trade (i'm hoping trade to get something outta him) Outlaw in favor of Wear
We are waiving Outlaw.
 4 years ago '04        #11368
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Capt. Obvious, appears Marc Gasol may be the top FA NYK goes after next year
 4 years ago '04        #11369
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Travis Wear is our 15th man

good fu*king day so far between this news and Benedict Cumberbatch set to play Doctor Strange
 4 years ago '04        #11370
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not all the details yet but it looks like NYK & Sixers are making a trade
we'd get Arnett Moultrie for Travis Outlaw, 2nd round pick and the ability to swap 2nd round picks in the future
 10-27-2014, 01:49 PM         #11371
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 Born_Loser said:
not all the details yet but it looks like NYK & Sixers are making a trade
we'd get Arnett Moultrie for Travis Outlaw, 2nd round pick and the ability to swap 2nd round picks in the future
Hinkie can't keep getting away with this.


 4 years ago '11        #11372
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 Born_Loser said:
not all the details yet but it looks like NYK & Sixers are making a trade
we'd get Arnett Moultrie for Travis Outlaw, 2nd round pick and the ability to swap 2nd round picks in the future
 Kitsch said:
Hinkie can't keep getting away with this.



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 10-27-2014, 02:06 PM         #11373
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 4 years ago '07        #11374
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Tonight's the night. Go Knickstape.
 4 years ago '04        #11375
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George Willis

For a while Derek Fisher looked like a genius, a modern-day Zen Master. His late insertion of Amar’e Stoudemire into the starting lineup for Wednesday night’s season opener against the Bulls at the Garden was providing instant results.

Looking like he did in his All-Star days, Stoudemire dominated the first nine minutes of the game, fueling the Knicks to a fast start that would see the home team take an early 16-11 lead. Stoudemire had half of the Knicks points, sandwiching two dunks between two outside jump shots that energized the sellout crowd.

What Stoudemire had hoped before the game was becoming reality.

“It’s time to take the hard work I’ve done in practice to the game,” he had said.

Now he was doing just that. Or so it seemed.

It wasn’t long before Fisher wasn’t a genius and Stoudemire wasn’t 21 again. After Stoudemire left the game at 2:59 of the first quarter with the Knicks up by five, the Bulls bench dominated the rest of the quarter, jump-starting Chicago to an easy 104-80 win.

“The start of the game we played solid,” said Stoudemire, who finished with 12 points and eight rebounds. “Then once they started ramping up the defense we took a step back.”

It’s unclear whether Stoudemire will start Thursday’s game in Cleveland or go back to the bench. He spent almost all of the preseason coming off the bench, which is why eyebrows were raised when Fisher announced Stoudemire would start the opener at power forward.

Fisher said he looked at the matchup against the Bulls and teams in the Eastern Conference in making his decision.

“We feel good about having the two bigs out there starting the game,” he said, referring to Stoudemire and center Samuel Dalembert.

That good feeling didn’t last a quarter.

“We’re still discovering all of our possibilities,” Fisher said after the Knicks’ most one-sided loss in a season opener since losing to the Sixers 101-72 in 2000.

Fisher was a player for nearly two decades so he knows how egos can impact an NBA team. You only can hope his decision to put Stoudemire in the starting lineup was for basketball reasons and not a flip-flop by a rookie head coach to appease one player.

“He’s put himself in position where he’s out there to start,” Fisher said before the game. “He’s worked hard to be in this position.”

Stoudemire validated his start by his early impact. He played strong defense against Joakim Noah, ran the floor in transition and made his first four field goals. Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau wasn’t surprised.

“People tend to forget how good Amar’e is,” he said.

But starting Stoudemire left the Knicks bench without many weapons other than the streaky J.R. Smith. As Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony watched from the bench, the Bulls claimed a 39-28 lead before they re-entered the game. It got ugly from there.

Fisher will have to figure out what works best for the Knicks and not what makes his players happy. It was just a few days ago when Stoudemire seemed annoyed at coming off the bench, saying, “I’m not sure why,” when asked why he wasn’t being considered to start. “I need to find out.”

It’s unclear if he and Fisher discussed his role.

“We have an open line of communication,” is all Stoudemire would say. “He has an open-door policy with all of his players.We feel confident to talk him about any situation.”

If Fisher changed his lineup simply to appease Stoudemire, that’s not a good sign. It’s never works when the inmates run the asylum.

Stoudemire said he would be happy starting or coming off the bench. He has always been a good soldier as a Knick, and if he twisted Fisher’s arm to get a start on opening night that might be expected. But it’s difficult to see the Knicks winning without either Stoudemire or Anthony on the floor.

Fisher promised to do what’s best for the team and that might mean Stoudemire coming off the bench. Whatever the plan, the last thing the Knicks need is an indecisive rookie head coach.
 4 years ago '04        #11376
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Berman

Square, octagon, hexagon, circle.

The system may not matter. This collection of Knicks players just may not be good enough — or have enough heart.

Worse than getting outclassed, 104-80, by the co-Eastern Conference favorite Bulls in the season opener Wednesday night at the Garden, the Knicks appeared to be a spiritless, lifeless bunch that didn’t defend, rebound or grab loose balls once they fell behind in coach Derek Fisher’s debut — let alone trust the triangle offense. Some players admitted they barely put up a f!ght in the second half when it got out of hand.

“We can’t die like that,’’ Iman Shumpert said. “I think our energy died, and we can’t do that.’’

Now a salivating LeBron James and the Cavaliers await them Thursday night at Quicken Loans Arena after the Knicks suffered their largest margin of defeat for a season opener in 14 years.

It was the worst kind of debut fans were hoping to see under the reign of new team president Phil Jackson.

“Not ready for showtime, were we guys?” Jackson said on the way out of the arena, ducking into his black SUV. “I can’t tell how long it’s going to take.”

The Knicks shot just 36.5 percent, mustered 37 points in the second half and allowed Chicago to shoot 51 percent with little resistance in sealing off the paint.

“We got to learn from that,’’ Carmelo Anthony said. “When we get down in certain situations, we didn’t react well tonight. We got to get better at that.’’

Starting point guard Jose Calderon was a late scratch with a calf injury and his poise was missed. His status for Cleveland is unknown, Fisher said. He was seen limping by the locker room after the game. Inexperienced Shane Larkin (six points, three a.ssists, 2-for-6) started in Calderon’s place.

With the Bulls bench pounding the Knicks reserves into submission, Chicago ran away with a victory at what turned into a quiet Garden for much of the second half, with light booing swirling around the confines.

The triangle is off to a terrible start, and the players looked more robotic than revved up.

“We have to ask ourselves about effort,’’ Anthony said. “We got to get better bringing energy. As much as it is disappointing to lose the season opener, we have another shot at it tonight.”

Fisher said confidence is an issue.

“My a.ssessment of tonight is, we are going somewhere, but at the beginning of where we’re going it’s going to be difficult to get wins,’’ Fisher said. “We’re going to have to f!ght pretty hard to win games. It’s difficult to sustain when you’re still growing in confidence about who you are. Because of who we are, we’re still discovering our possibilities. We’re not as fully confident we can stick to what we’re learning new.’’

In the second half, it appeared they mostly stopped trying to get into formation.

“I thought Chicago did a great job taking away a lot of options, which is what the triangle is about,’’ Anthony said. “The third quarter we got in a hole and it was hard to get back. I’m not embarrassed. We didn’t play well. I’m not embarrassed. We will be better.’’

Anthony scored a quiet 14 points in 29 minutes and sat the fourth quarter with the club down 24 points after three.

“Their game plan was for me not to see any daylight,’’ Anthony said.

Bulls reserve forward Taj Gibson, a native New Yorker, ripped the Knicks, coming off the Chicago bench to score 22 points with eight rebounds on 10-of-12 shooting.

The Bulls outscored the Knicks 31-17 in the third quarter.

“When the bright lights come on, it’s easy to go back to your old ways,’’ said J.R. Smith, who finished with just six points. “We have to be mindful and focused enough to stick with the game plan.’’

Fisher pulled a surprise starting Amar’e Stoudemire (12 points, eight rebounds) at power forward after not giving him a start at that position all preseason. He got outplayed by Pau Gasol (21 points, 10 rebounds) and it left the bench weak. The Knicks bench was outscored 55-29.

Jackson was shown in a video on the scoreboard during pregame warmups, stating this era is going to be “special.’’

But it started rather ugly.

The Bulls kept piling it on in the fourth quarter, going up by 35, though Fisher surrendered by putting in Cole Aldrich and rookies Cleanthony Early and Travis Wear.

Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau left Gibson in the game. After rookie Doug McDermott sank a 3-pointer to put Chicago up 98-65 with 6:26 left, Fisher called a timeout and McDermott and Joakim Noah did a wild chest bump on the bench. No mercy from Thibodeau, who is beyond tired of talking about Anthony’s snub this summer when the free agent was courted by the Bulls. And Anthony must be wondering if he did the right thing by staying with the Knicks.

“He moved on and we moved on,’’ Thibodeau said.
 4 years ago '04        #11377
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Begley

Pau Gasol turned down the Knicks in free agency this summer. But he told reporters on Wednesday that it's "possible" his brother could end up in the Big Apple.

Marc Gasol, Pau's younger brother, is expected to test free agency this summer. The Knicks are on track to have enough cap space to offer the Grizzlies center a maximum contract.

Pau Gasol told reporters before the Knicks-Bulls game that he's talked to his brother about Knicks president Phil Jackson, for whom Pau played with the Los Angeles Lakers.

"It's a personal decision," Pau Gasol said. "I talked to my brother enough about Phil that he knows what he brings to the table. I don't know how much he's involved with the team, really. He's in an upstairs position, management position. He's not on the court every day, so it's something that [Marc] will consider when he gets to that point."

Marc Gasol will have plenty of suitors this summer. One of the top defenders in the league, Gasol is also a strong passer who can operate out of the high post and potentially fit the Knicks' triangle offense.

"We'll see what happens next year, what he decides," Pau Gasol said. "Hopefully he'll have a strong year and all the options in the world. Because he's one of the top centers, interior players, in the league. So any team would be fortunate to have him."
 4 years ago '04        #11378
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been ranting on the twitter machine and on that facetimemyspacebook site and fu*k TNT as a style, a staff and as a motherfu*king channel.

please don't ever have Barkley do "commentary" EVER again, especially for a team that swept his a.ss back in the day and he still mad about it. i'll give Reggie a pass cause he's just a d!ck rider who will do whatever to fit in with the dominating figure he's commentating with. i want my Knick games (would love to have ALL games) on MSG cuz two things i will always get from that channel, actually commentary and unbiased opinions. 2 quarters of repetitive jokes (that's been said over and over and over for OVER a decade) when the Knicks are down. Knicks take and KEEP the lead in the 2nd half and NOTHING, not even jokes, no fu*king commentary about the actual game (unless you wanna count making excuses for the star). Knicks hit bi*chboy Barkley with the Encino Man


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 4 years ago '07        #11379
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 Born_Loser said:
been ranting on the twitter machine and on that facetimemyspacebook site and fu*k TNT as a style, a staff and as a motherfu*king channel.

please don't ever have Barkley do "commentary" EVER again, especially for a team that swept his a.ss back in the day and he still mad about it. i'll give Reggie a pass cause he's just a d!ck rider who will do whatever to fit in with the dominating figure he's commentating with. i want my Knick games (would love to have ALL games) on MSG cuz two things i will always get from that channel, actually commentary and unbiased opinions. 2 quarters of repetitive jokes (that's been said over and over and over for OVER a decade) when the Knicks are down. Knicks take and KEEP the lead in the 2nd half and NOTHING, not even jokes, no fu*king commentary about the actual game (unless you wanna count making excuses for the star). Knicks hit bi*chboy Barkley with the Encino Man

I feel you my g... I'm cool with TNT when it's a non-Knick game but everybody loves talkin sh*t bout us when we play on TNT... I love when we get that W and people gotta stfu. Reggie & Charles especially... Marv is cool bc he used to work for MSG.


It's not a fluke win either. Our bench completely mopped theirs, we outrebounded them, hell Melo & JR had lead our team with 6+ dimes each. Four people in double figures and another 3 with 8 or more points. Balanced attack. We just need to work on our D and not forget about the shot clock and we'll be a playoff team in April.

Just ease back and enjoy the season... You know it's KnicksTape all day homie
 4 years ago '04        #11380
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CLEVELAND — It was the Miracle by Lake Erie!

The Knicks really know how to destroy a wild Northeast Ohio party and stun the basketball world.

Figuring to be sacrificial lambs to mark LeBron James’ super-hyped return to Cleveland, Derek Fisher’s Knicks stole a stunning 95-90 victory Thursday night, reducing the King to an overanxious shell of himself while quieting Quicken Loans Arena.

Fisher masterfully used an 11-man rotation, using all of his unsung guys, even the anonymous Travis Wear to guard the struggling James in the first half.

It was a shocking win considering how uninspiring the Knicks looked in their season-opening 24-point loss to Chicago when they were lousy in all phases.

James was miserable, finishing with 17 points on 5-of-15 shooting and throwing the ball all about downtown Cleveland in committing eight turnovers. He had five rebounds and four a.ssists.

Carmelo Anthony was cool all night despite foul trouble, scoring 25 points and got help in all the unexpected places.

But it was Anthony who hit the biggest shot of the game. He nailed a tough baseline jumper over James to make it 92-87 with 26 seconds to go — the kind of game-sealing shot he didn’t make all last season.

Jason Smith came off the bench and finished with 12 points, making 5-of-6 shots. It was the kind of team win the triangle is supposed to embody as the Knicks finished with 30 a.ssists — more than any game from a season ago — on 37 made field goals. A night after shooting 36.5 percent from the field, they hit 53.6 percent of their shots.

Third-string center Cole Aldrich, Quincy Acy, who started, and Wear all made contributions on offense and helped make James look ordinary. Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith, who had a team-high seven a.ssists, also reached double-digits, with 12 and 11 points, respectively. Shane Larkin started at point guard again with Jose Calderon now out two-to-three more weeks with a strained calf and had five a.ssists, five steals and nine points.

The Knicks were up 88-80 after a Shumpert bucket with 2:20 left, but the Cavs roared back to 88-85. They had a chance to tie but Kevin Love hit the front rim on a 3-pointer and J.R. Smith scored on a driving floater with 48 seconds left, putting the Knicks back up 90-85.

Thousands poured into the downtown streets all afternoon for a festival with outdoor concerts and revelry in the packed bars outside the arena. Before the game, there was a pregame ceremony marked by fans throwing white confetti into the air to mimic James’ tradition of tossing talcum powder before tipoff.

“It’s like Christmas,’’ one fan bellowed.

But the night became as frightening as Halloween for a revived fan base thinking this is the year to break Cleveland’s championship hex.

With James playing one of the worst halves of his career, the Knicks managed to be within 44-42 at halftime. Fisher used 11 players in the first 13 minutes, even playing the unsung Wear, a long shot to make the team, to defend James in the second quarter.

After a pregame ceremony that was understated but touching, with James saying on the big screen “there’s no place like home,’’ he looked very shaky, nervous and overanxious across the first 24 minutes.

James was 1-of-9 for four points, going 0-for-3 from 3-point range and committed four turnovers as he tried to get accustomed to his talented but very new teammates and where they’ll be on the floor.

The Knicks got under James’ skin. Late in the third, Jason Smith knocked the ball away from James after the whistle. James took exception and Smith didn’t back away.

James was pressing. After hauling in a rebound late in the third, he sprinted upcourt and decided on a forced fall-away from the baseline without giving up the ball.

Anthony picked up his fourth foul with 22 seconds left in the third and kept on the bench as the Knicks maintained the lead. After rapid ball movement, Acy hit an open 15-footer and the Knicks led 75-71 with 7:47 left.

Fisher finally put in Anthony back in with 6:30 left and he promptly hit a wide open 3-pointer for an 80-71 lead with 5:48 left as he scored nine points in the fourth.

Fisher brought Amar’e Stoudemire off the bench and started Acy at power forward, giving the Knicks more of the look they had during the preseason.
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