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 07-24-2014, 07:23 PM         #11201
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 4 years ago '07        #11202
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The Knicks recently attempted to make a trade for Minnesota Timberwolves star Kevin Love, offering forward Amar'e Stoudemire and his enormous expiring contract, second-year guard Tim Hardaway, Jr. and swingman Iman Shumpert, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

But the longshot offer, made in the past week, was declined and never stood much of a chance, particularly since the Timberwolves could potentially strike a richer deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers involving No. 1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins.


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 4 years ago '04        #11203
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Chris Herring

The Knicks recently attempted to make a trade for Minnesota Timberwolves star Kevin Love, offering forward Amar'e Stoudemire and his enormous expiring contract, second-year guard Tim Hardaway, Jr. and swingman Iman Shumpert, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

But the longshot offer, made in the past week, was declined and never stood much of a chance, particularly since the Timberwolves could potentially strike a richer deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers involving No. 1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins. The Chicago Bulls, who have a bevy of intriguing a.ssets to trade, have reportedly had conversations with Minnesota about Love in recent weeks since failing to sign Knicks star Carmelo Anthony in free agency.

The Knicks, by contrast, are short-handed when it comes to what they can trade for an elite player like Love. The sharpshooting Hardaway, after a strong rookie year in which he averaged 10 points a game, has good value. But Shumpert could make considerably more money after next season, when he'll be a restricted free agent. And Stoudemire's expiring contract would likely hold less weight with a team like the Timberwolves, who are typically unable to lure big-name free agents to play in Minnesota.

Minnesota's front office has been signaling that any trade partner for Love would also potentially have to take J.J. Barea and Kevin Martin, who is due another $21 million over the next three seasons, as part of the deal. (Love, Barea and Martin make combined salaries of $27 million, nearly identical to that of Stoudemire, Hardaway and Shumpert.)

The obvious problem the Knicks face in all of this: They lack the future draft picks that would be necessary to pull off such a deal. By NBA rule, teams aren't allowed to trade first-round picks in consecutive years. Because of that, New York can't trade its 2015 and 2017 picks, since it already dealt its 2014 and 2016 picks in trades for Carmelo Anthony and Andrea Bargnani, respectively. For a rebuilding team like Minnesota, the prospect of waiting until 2018 to fully cash in on a rare talent like Love isn't realistic.

Team president Phil Jackson and the Knicks were likely aware that they had little chance of landing Love with their proposal, which might have been more of a formality since several teams have called Minnesota to gauge what it would take for the Timberwolves to pull the trigger. But knowing that Love has quietly expressed an interest in playing in New York, the Knicks went ahead with an offer.

If the 25-year-old forward plays out the final year of his contract in Minnesota and becomes a free agent next summer, the Knicks will have enough cap space to be able to offer him a maximum contract if they choose to go that route.
 4 years ago '04        #11204
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TIMMY! Jr

Knicks shooting guard Tim Hardaway Jr., coming off his First-Team All-Rookie season, is writing a periodic diary from Las Vegas this week as a member of the U.S. Select Team, which is practicing against Team USA in preparation for FIBA’s World Cup tournament.

LAS VEGAS — The intensity has really picked up over the last two days here at USA Basketball training camp. I think I’ve done a really good job of getting better and holding my own. I’ve definitely been defending better, which is something that comes with experience and from learning each and every day. It is something I really wanted to work on this offseason, because offensively, I felt ahead of the game.

Really, I just try to observe and absorb everything around me. I’ve been paying attention to veteran guys such as Kevin Durant and James Harden, just in how they approach practices and scrimmages as well as their routines.

And even when Coach [Tom] Thibodeau is addressing the national team about man-to-man defensive concepts, I’m listening to every word he says. Coach Thibodeau is regarded as the game’s best defensive coach. We spent a lot of time focusing on zone defense on Wednesday, with Coach Jim Boeheim taking the lead on that. We were running plays teams like Spain, Brazil and Dominican Republic will run against the U.S. next month.

It’s tough because the rules overseas are so different. In the FIBA game, you can stay in the paint. There’s no three-second rule. You can knock the ball off the rim. These are things I’m still learning about international play. Again, as I wrote in my first diary, my goal is one day to be a U.S. Olympian.

On my select team, we really take a lot of pride in what we’re doing here. In one scrimmage against Team USA, one of our squads had a huge comeback win, with Orlando point guard Victor Oladipo getting the game-winning basket. We were all so happy just because we got a victory. It was a very cool moment. By giving our all every day, we’re really getting the national team better and getting them ready to go overseas.

I knew most of the guys in camp before we got here. Bradley Beal, Gordon Hayward, Doug McDermott, Mason and Miles Plumlee and myself all have the same agent — Mark Bartelstein, who is based in Chicago. It’s nice that we’re all here as a group.

It’s great to have a lot of guys from Priority Sports. It makes the agency look good. Every year Bartelstein has all the draft-class kids live in Chicago and train together. The agency knows what it is doing.

Mason, who had a strong rookie season for Brooklyn, even got bumped up to the national team camp the other day after Kevin Love’s withdrawal. He’s doing really well. It was good watching him go out and dominate. That’s what’s he’s doing.

For me, I’ve been knocking down wide-open shots when they’ve been given to me, finishing at the rim and getting my teammates on the select team some open shots by passing to them at the right time and right spot. My confidence has continued to rise and I can’t wait for the real Knicks’ training camp in October.

I heard the great Earl Monroe said this week that I’m “not afraid’’ and I “got the heart for the NBA game’’ and he can “see it in my eyes.’’

All I can say is that’s an honor to hear that from a Hall of Famer. Having that no-fear attitude on the court, with all these great players, is what helped me have a successful rookie season with the Knicks. I always played with a sense of urgency as a rookie.

I know a lot of people overlooked me heading into the draft, but those mock drafts, and really where I was drafted, didn’t mean a thing. I knew coming into last year’s draft that all I had to do was prove to one or two teams that I could play at the next level, and luckily I did. Because if you’re worried about what others are saying, you’re not focused on what really matters.
 4 years ago '04        #11205
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Begley

The Knicks have signed rookie Cleanthony Early to a contract. The team announced the signing on Friday afternoon.

New York drafted Early with the 34th pick of the 2014 NBA Draft. Contract details were not released.

Due to the Knicks’ salary cap restraints and Early’s status as a second-round pick, the most New York would be able to offer Early is a two-year contract worth the minimum salary ($507,336 in Year One and $845,059 in Year Two).

The Knicks hope that Early can step in to the rotation and backup Carmelo Anthony and others at small forward. In four games in the Las Vegas Summer League, Early averaged 11.5 points on 45 percent shooting.

The Knicks also may still re-sign Toure' Murry. The free agent guard has drawn interest from the Heat, Jazz and Clippers, according to a league source.
 4 years ago '04        #11206
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*Freeway voice* EARLY!!!


and my n*gga Murry possibly coming back? gonna be a hot sum.....well Fall
 4 years ago '07        #11207
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 Born_Loser said:
*Freeway voice* EARLY!!!


and my n*gga Murry possibly coming back? gonna be a hot sum.....well Fall
If we can ship a guard or 2 (like Wayne Ellington & JR) in a trade, then maybe we can pull it off.

Still a lot of guards to sign on Toure, and I'd rather have JTyler than Toure
 4 years ago '07        #11208
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 I Am The Truth said:
If we can ship a guard or 2 (like Wayne Ellington & JR) in a trade, then maybe we can pull it off.

Still a lot of guards to sign on Toure, and I'd rather have JTyler than Toure
Maybe I'm biased I think a 6'5" pg has more uprise than a 6'9" pf and melo can play that position plus amare is back we don't NEED a full 15 man roster




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 4 years ago '07        #11209
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 Funeral James said:
Maybe I'm biased I think a 6'5" pg has more uprise than a 6'9" pf and melo can play that position plus amare is back we don't NEED a full 15 man roster
I hear ya but it's about development... I love Toure' but we already got Shump (6'5'' PG/SG/SF) and Toure isn't necessarily better than Shane even on D (more lateral quickness than all our guards, even though he's the shortest)...

After this year, we could have 2 young big men to develop in Cole & Tyler, and they play both sides of the ball. We need youth.

Plus, if anyone goes down for a couple weeks, our bigs aren't as easy to replace as our guards. Would be nice if we could sign em both.
 4 years ago '04        #11210
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only news i can find is the Knicks ARE trying to move Ellington but no one is interested so to make a roster spot become available (which is why they wanna move Ellington) they are considering adding my dude, P-Body n*ggas to any deal involving Ellington
 4 years ago '07        #11211
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 Born_Loser said:
only news i can find is the Knicks ARE trying to move Ellington but no one is interested so to make a roster spot become available (which is why they wanna move Ellington) they are considering adding my dude, P-Body n*ggas to any deal involving Ellington
Ugh, I prefer they don't trade Prigs, he's been classy for us
 4 years ago '04        #11212
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like i said, they were trying to move Ellington and have no choice but to package him with someone of value....not sure if they'll try to move one of these out or someone else since they are trying to have at least 1 spot open
 4 years ago '04        #11213
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Sam Amick

The New York Knicks will trade guard Wayne Ellington, forward Jeremy Tyler and a 2016 second-round pick to the Sacramento Kings for forwards Quincy Acy and Travis Outlaw, people with knowledge of the situation told USA TODAY Sports.

The people spoke on the condition of anonymity because the deal was not yet announced.

As part of the deal, the Knicks agreed to remove the protection (picks 31-37) on the 2016 second-round draft pick they sent to Sacramento in 2013.

The Kings are expected to waive Tyler and could use the stretch provision on Ellington, who is owed $2.77 million next season, to improve their salary cap situation. But that final decision has not been made.

Acy, a 6-7 small forward from Baylor, has played two seasons in the NBA with the Toronto Raptors and Kings, averaging 3.1 points and 3.2 rebounds a game. He averaged 2.7 points in 14.0 minutes a game with the Kings last season.

Ellington has been in the league for five seasons. The shooting guard from North Carolina has a career average of 6.4 points and shot 39 percent from three-point range. He has played for four teams and came to the Knicks as part of a multiplayer trade with the Dallas Mavericks in June.
 4 years ago '07        #11214
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Tyler my n*gga i hate it had to be him
 4 years ago '07        #11215
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 Chief said:
Tyler my n*gga i hate it had to be him

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  Career: | Aug 17: 16-22, Rank #607 | Aug 16: 47-24, Rank #82 | Aug 15: 53-44, Rank #135 | Aug 14: 155-91, Rank #48 | Aug 13: 64-32, Rank #54 | Aug 12: 212-123, Rank #30 | Aug 11: 333-187, Rank #38 | Aug 10: 1090-567, Rank #11 | Aug 09: 2-1, Rank #328 | Aug 08: 3-1, Rank #625 *
 4 years ago '04        #11216
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i like how Tyler, The Basketball Player is becoming the new Earl Barron
 4 years ago '11        #11217
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I like what Acy brings to the team. High energy, good defender, young legs. Should match up well with the scorers we have. Solid pick up
 4 years ago '07        #11218
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 imtheman718 said:
I like what Acy brings to the team. High energy, good defender, young legs. Should match up well with the scorers we have. Solid pick up
I like Acy too but as much as Tyler...he's taller, somewhat defensive minded, and we can insert him into the Triangle as a big with a jumpshot. And we're his fav team growing up too. Dude wanted to be a Knick. We better be trying to sign him back. Or is this not allowed from the last CBA...

Yo Born, what's the word on signing back a player who is getting waived by the team acquiring him in the trade??
 4 years ago '04        #11219
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 I Am The Truth said:
Yo Born, what's the word on signing back a player who is getting waived by the team acquiring him in the trade??
can't sign him for a whole year
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Begley

Some may question whether Carmelo Anthony gave the New York Knicks enough of a discount when he signed a contract worth $5 million less than the maximum last month. But Knicks GM Steve Mills praised Anthony on Tuesday for doing "his part" to give the franchise financial flexibility.

"He could have taken the full max or he could have taken less money to put us in position where we had flexibility in terms of what we do in the future. He did his part, we appreciate what he did, and part of what we are doing is we are being diligent in how we build the roster," Mills said. "Everything we did, even in this transaction, did not extend contracts into future years. So [Knicks president] Phil [Jackson] and I are very much focused on that."

For details on Anthony's contract and its impact on the Knicks, click here.

More trades coming?: Pablo Prigioni was almost sent away as part of Wednesday's transaction that netted Quincy Acy and Travis Outlaw, according to ESPN's Marc Stein. Stein reported on Twitter that one iteration of this deal had Prigioni going to Utah in a three-team trade. But the Jazz eventually backed out.

Prigioni's name has come up recently in trade talks, Stein reported Tuesday.

Mills said on Wednesday that the Knicks were satisfied with their backcourt situation after dealing Wayne Ellington. The Knicks have three point guards and three shooting guards on the roster.

"We feel good about the core of our backcourt right now in terms of the number of guys that we have at [shooting guard] and [point guard] and we are going to play a two-guard front," Mills said. "We have a lot of guys who are interchangeable between the 1-2, and in some cases, the 2 and the 3."

When asked if there were more moves on the horizon for the Knicks, Mills said, "I think we're always looking at ways to improve the team and we'll continue to look at opportunities to enhance our ability to be successful."

Mills was also complimentary of new F/C Jason Smith.

"He's a mobile big that can play the 4 and the 5. He's got a great midrange shot. I think he'll fit within sort of the triangle," Mills said. "He's got good hands, he can space the floor and he's got great size."
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