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 3 years ago '07        #11181
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 Kitsch said:
We have SGs that can play SF (J.R. and Shumpert), I'm not too worried about the current make up of the team right now.
True... in the words of my n*gga Marlo from The Wire, "Sounds like a good problem to me."

 3 years ago '04        #11182
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yeah rosters full for now, they said they want Tyler, The Basketball Player to earn his spot so i can see them having a him vs. MWP training camp for the final spot

Wayne and maybe Sammy might get traded away sometime during the season and it's pretty much Shump or Smitty who will get moved
 3 years ago '07        #11183
KnicksLost 17 heat pts17
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 Born_Loser said:
yeah rosters full for now, they said they want Tyler, The Basketball Player to earn his spot so i can see them having a him vs. MWP training camp for the final spot

Wayne and maybe Sammy might get traded away sometime during the season and it's pretty much Shump or Smitty who will get moved
Heard THJ is going to start...so yeah the writing is on the wall to move one of them...I think it will be Smitty...Shump will probably learn how to play pg in the triangle from Fish
 3 years ago '07        #11184
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 KnicksLost said:
Heard THJ is going to start...so yeah the writing is on the wall to move one of them...I think it will be Smitty...Shump will probably learn how to play pg in the triangle from Fish
Idk man Timmy even said himself he's not ready to start yet, but obviously he's working on it.

It comes down to us having 3 guys who play the same position (Shump, Timmy, JR)... Shump is most versatile (PG - SF), JR is the best explosive scorer, Timmy is most consistent

I don't see why we don't run our game like the Spurs & cut minutes down on our stars when possible (Melo, Amare, even Bargs who's accident prone) and run the young guys more in the Triangle... it will be an interesting season.

I'm ok with Dalembert staying but Ellington shouldn't get minutes over Timmy so he needs to go. I'd rather have Shannon Brown over Ellington. And I'd rather have JTyler over Shannon Brown.
 3 years ago '04        #11185
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yeah Timmy! is about another year or two from being a starter

with Jason Smith, he put a monkey wrench on sh*t imo unless we got ourselves a 3 man battle for a spot including Sammy D (if they would seriously consider moving him). Aldrich def. earned his stripes/spot on this team in my book so he's good for me

Shannon Brown would be a good look on this team cause of what he brings to the table and his familiarity with the triangle and can play the 2 and 3 so def. a pick up if we move Ellington especially since Early will not be getting much play time till like the 2nd half of the season unless either injuries or he does some impressive eye opening sh*t at training camp or they can even save a spot for an Artest by just letting this n*gga play in the D-League for like a month or two since look what that did for Tyler for us last season

they already made it clear that Greek Freak is not playing till next year so that's nothing to worry about
 07-19-2014, 04:01 PM         #11186
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 Born_Loser said:

Wayne and maybe Sammy might get traded away sometime during the season and it's pretty much Shump or Smitty who will get moved
 3 years ago '07        #11187
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 Born_Loser said:
yeah Timmy! is about another year or two from being a starter

with Jason Smith, he put a monkey wrench on sh*t imo unless we got ourselves a 3 man battle for a spot including Sammy D (if they would seriously consider moving him). Aldrich def. earned his stripes/spot on this team in my book so he's good for me

Shannon Brown would be a good look on this team cause of what he brings to the table and his familiarity with the triangle and can play the 2 and 3 so def. a pick up if we move Ellington especially since Early will not be getting much play time till like the 2nd half of the season unless either injuries or he does some impressive eye opening sh*t at training camp or they can even save a spot for an Artest by just letting this n*gga play in the D-League for like a month or two since look what that did for Tyler for us last season

they already made it clear that Greek Freak is not playing till next year so that's nothing to worry about
Truth... but I'd rather keep Early around, he has great intangibles. And I think he can learn well from Melo & Fish.

But the question do we drop JTyler or Dalembert? I'd rather go with Tyler for the youth movement. But this is what camp & pre-season is for.

I don't think anyone wants Ellington & his non-guaranteed contract, so he's prob out.
 3 years ago '07        #11188
Funeral James 24 heat pts24
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 KnicksLost said:
Heard THJ is going to start...so yeah the writing is on the wall to move one of them...I think it will be Smitty...Shump will probably learn how to play pg in the triangle from Fish
Shump at the point that's a scary sight




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  Career: | Aug 16: 47-24, Rank #82 | Aug 15: 53-44, Rank #135 | Aug 14: 155-91, Rank #48 | Aug 13: 64-32, Rank #54 | Aug 12: 212-123, Rank #30 | Aug 11: 333-187, Rank #38 | Aug 10: 1090-567, Rank #11 | Aug 09: 2-1, Rank #328 | Aug 08: 3-1, Rank #625 *
 3 years ago '04        #11189
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 I Am The Truth said:
I don't think anyone wants Ellington & his non-guaranteed contract, so he's prob out.
he's expiring so that might make him a pick up for somebody else, Samuel is a good replacement for Chandler in the short term but combine those two contracts, can trade for a 5.5 mill (obviously expiring) big man which basically gives us an empty roster spot and less clutter in both positions
 3 years ago '07        #11190
Funeral James 24 heat pts24
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Just watched the playback of the game, Hairston is a dirty player..Timmy looks like melo jr out there

I like Larkin and henriquez




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  Career: | Aug 16: 47-24, Rank #82 | Aug 15: 53-44, Rank #135 | Aug 14: 155-91, Rank #48 | Aug 13: 64-32, Rank #54 | Aug 12: 212-123, Rank #30 | Aug 11: 333-187, Rank #38 | Aug 10: 1090-567, Rank #11 | Aug 09: 2-1, Rank #328 | Aug 08: 3-1, Rank #625 *
 3 years ago '07        #11191
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 Funeral James said:
Just watched the playback of the game, Hairston is a dirty player..Timmy looks like melo jr out there

I like Larkin and henriquez
PJ from Gboro, just how things be with my NC peoples bruh

Timmy, Shane, & Early were looking good, but the offense got super stagnant when they checked out. Tyler kinda flopped today. Thanasis barely hit the floor.

I hope Henriquez can get signed to our D-League team, he doesn't score much but he can defend, block & rebound
 3 years ago '04        #11192
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Ian Begley

Working to clear the log jam in the backcourt, the Knicks are discussing their potential trade options with guards J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert and Shane Larkin, a league source said on Sunday.

“They’re working on trying to make a move in the backcourt,” the NBA source familiar with the Knicks’ thinking said.

The idea that the Knicks are trying to make a trade to balance the roster isn’t earth-shattering. President Phil Jackson and GM Steve Mills have mentioned the Knicks have a surplus in the backcourt, with Mills saying last week the Knicks are “heavy” at shooting guard.

The issue for the Knicks, of course, is deciding who to send out in a trade and figuring out what they can get in return in such a transaction.

Tim Hardaway Jr. has been deemed virtually untouchable, per a source. Smith, the 2012-13 Sixth Man Award winner, has a player option in his contract for $6.4 million for the 2015-16 season and is coming off what he called the worst season of his NBA career. As such, it is unclear how much interest he could draw on the open market.

Shumpert is viewed as a strong defender but couldn’t find his comfort zone on offense last season. He was made available in several different trade proposals throughout the season. His value at this point in the trade market is also unclear.

Larkin was recently acquired from the Mavericks in the trade that also netted Jose Calderon and Samuel Dalembert.

The Knicks tried to pair Shumpert with Andrea Bargnani and Amar'e Stoudemire in separate deals earlier in the offseason in an effort to unload the contracts of Bargnani ($11.5 million) and Stoudemire ($23.4 million). No deal materialized for either player. It is unclear if such packages are still being discussed or if the guards are being offered individually at this point.

The Knicks have four shooting guards on the roster. They also haven’t ruled out re-signing free agent PG/SG Toure' Murry.
Murry has drawn interest from the Utah Jazz and Miami Heat, according to a report Sunday from the Salt Lake Tribune.
 3 years ago '07        #11193
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Only players i wouldn't mind them giving up is Pablo and Ellington




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 3 years ago '11        #11194
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IMO we need shump. Hes a self starter that goes hard. Thats the type of player that should pair well with melo, but that n*ggas way too erratic. If Fish and Phil could learn this n*ggas some pace to his game to go along with his athleticism, I don't see why he couldn't be an all star someday. As far as JR, we might have seen his best when he got that 6th man. I don't see him getting any better and with Hardaway on the come up it makes perfect sense to move him. I like Larkins's speed at the point, but to be honest, I'd rather Caldaron as a backup point guard than Larkin. If we could somehow get a solid starting point guard and keep Larking at 3rd string, Im all for it. We've got a.ssets to make some moves, can't be mad at that.
 3 years ago '04        #11195
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 imtheman718 said:
IMO we need shump. Hes a self starter that goes hard. Thats the type of player that should pair well with melo, but that n*ggas way too erratic. If Fish and Phil could learn this n*ggas some pace to his game to go along with his athleticism, I don't see why he couldn't be an all star someday. As far as JR, we might have seen his best when he got that 6th man. I don't see him getting any better and with Hardaway on the come up it makes perfect sense to move him. I like Larkins's speed at the point, but to be honest, I'd rather Caldaron as a backup point guard than Larkin. If we could somehow get a solid starting point guard and keep Larking at 3rd string, Im all for it. We've got a.ssets to make some moves, can't be mad at that.
so ur saying Calderon isn't a solid PG or even a starting PG?
 3 years ago '08        #11196
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Yea I'd trade jr for a center or a real 3 man
 3 years ago '07        #11197
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I'm not throwin Calderon under the bus haven't seen him play a game in a Knicks jersey yet




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  Career: | Aug 16: 47-24, Rank #82 | Aug 15: 53-44, Rank #135 | Aug 14: 155-91, Rank #48 | Aug 13: 64-32, Rank #54 | Aug 12: 212-123, Rank #30 | Aug 11: 333-187, Rank #38 | Aug 10: 1090-567, Rank #11 | Aug 09: 2-1, Rank #328 | Aug 08: 3-1, Rank #625 *
 3 years ago '11        #11198
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 Born_Loser said:
so ur saying Calderon isn't a solid PG or even a starting PG?
Calderon to me should be the 4th scoring option on a solid team if he's starting. I like him because he could hit the three with regularity. Other than that, I cant get hype over dude looking at the rest of this roster. Now if we had a big who could demand a double team, I'd like Calderon even more. You get what Im saying?
 3 years ago '07        #11199
Funeral James 24 heat pts24
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 imtheman718 said:
Calderon to me should be the 4th scoring option on a solid team if he's starting. I like him because he could hit the three with regularity. Other than that, I cant get hype over dude looking at the rest of this roster. Now if we had a big who could demand a double team, I'd like Calderon even more. You get what Im saying?
He was the 3rd scoring option in Dallas and he did fine, and melo gets double teamed..




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  Career: | Aug 16: 47-24, Rank #82 | Aug 15: 53-44, Rank #135 | Aug 14: 155-91, Rank #48 | Aug 13: 64-32, Rank #54 | Aug 12: 212-123, Rank #30 | Aug 11: 333-187, Rank #38 | Aug 10: 1090-567, Rank #11 | Aug 09: 2-1, Rank #328 | Aug 08: 3-1, Rank #625 *
 3 years ago '04        #11200
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 imtheman718 said:
Calderon to me should be the 4th scoring option on a solid team if he's starting. I like him because he could hit the three with regularity. Other than that, I cant get hype over dude looking at the rest of this roster. Now if we had a big who could demand a double team, I'd like Calderon even more. You get what Im saying?
i see what you saying but to add on the scoring options, if ur PG is ur 1st scoring option, ur gonna have a problem....if Calderon becomes our 4th, 5th or even 6th scoring option that says A LOT about our scoring depth cause Jose is legit
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