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 3 years ago '08        #11001
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 Funeral James said:
Is it bad that when I saw that Felton got a plea deal to avoid jail time I was mad or nah?
We've all had enough of Felton, Phil needs to trade him ASAP!
 3 years ago '07        #11002
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Can somebody school me on amnesties? I know bill ups got cut that way but what does it really mean and can they get rid of Felton that way since no team will want him




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 3 years ago '04        #11003
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 Funeral James said:
Can somebody school me on amnesties? I know bill ups got cut that way but what does it really mean and can they get rid of Felton that way since no team will want him
amnesties are one and done, we used ours already....our only option that's similar is a buyout
 3 years ago '07        #11004
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 Born_Loser said:
amnesties are one and done, we used ours already....our only option that's similar is a buyout
Thanks born. I just watched that melo interview on free agency from June 3rd doesn't sound like he would choose the bulls because the school system is trash and his family prefers ny..I won't be surprised if he joined the nets if possible.

In the meantime I'll take advantage of melo still on the Knicks in 2k





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 3 years ago '04        #11005
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 Funeral James said:
Thanks born. I just watched that melo interview on free agency from June 3rd doesn't sound like he would choose the bulls because the school system is trash and his family prefers ny..I won't be surprised if he joined the nets if possible.

In the meantime I'll take advantage of melo still on the Knicks in 2k

my gut tells me that he's staying too, LeBron becoming a FA pretty IMO is a good thing since it'll give NY time to figure out the Melo situation since we can't make any REAL moves without sorting that one out. either make moves around Melo or just make moves to help us for this season and go all out in 2015
 3 years ago '04        #11006
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Ohm Youngmisuk

LeBron James opting out of his contract likely only makes life that much more difficult for the New York Knicks.

Let’s look at the ripple effects from LeBron’s decision Tuesday:

LeBron will have several teams jockeying for his services, including Miami, Chicago, Houston, the Los Angeles Lakers, possibly the Clippers, Dallas and Cleveland.

They not only will try to create the necessary cap space to sign James (if they haven’t already) but also will want to create the most attractive situation for him. That means teams will be looking to add stars for LeBron to play with -- and that is where Carmelo Anthony comes in.

Because Melo has also opted out of his contract with the Knicks, another team might figure out a way to get both James and Anthony. Yes, it could be difficult to pull off. But Miami showed back in 2010 that it can be done.

And that makes Miami a bit scarier for the Knicks. Even though the Heat still have to wait to see what Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh do with their contract options, you just know that Heat president Pat Riley is busy scheming a way to make Miami a better team.

Yeah, Riley called the idea of bringing Melo to South Beach to team up with the Big Three a "pipe dream." But I wouldn’t underestimate him.

James and Anthony have been longtime friends. Surely if there is a way for them to team up, they’ll both explore it and see whether any team out there can accommodate them. James loves Miami, the coaching staff and Riley most of all. So the Heat likely have to be considered the favorites to keep James.

The Knicks? Getting LeBron to come to the Garden might be a fantasy compared to Riley’s “pipe dream” a.ssessment in Miami. As our man Ian Begley points out, the Knicks likely would have to clear around $20 million in cap space to try to sign James first before re-signing Anthony.

I think Knicks president Phil Jackson will be able to make the Knicks better in the long run. But with just a week before free agency begins, it is unreasonable to think that Jackson can pull off something that will feel like a miracle and find somebody to take a couple of the fat contracts that belong to Amar'e Stoudemire, Andrea Bargnani, Tyson Chandler and/or J.R. Smith.

Jackson would have to unload some combination of these contracts on a team that has the cap space to absorb them and take no contracts back, or hope Amar'e retires. (I don't see that happening.)

Jackson may be the Zen Master, but he’s no miracle worker.

What the Knicks probably need to hope for is that James re-signs with Miami on a one-year deal and then the Knicks can make a run at King James next offseason.

As for holding on to Melo, consider this: Some teams will try to get LeBron and fail. Should a team create space and a somewhat attractive situation to sign James but strike out, that team likely could turn its attention to Anthony. And Melo could find that place more attractive than New York.

James likely did the Knicks no favors by opting out. The Knicks have to hope that another team in the league doesn’t find a way to sign both James and Melo. Then they have to hope Melo finds the money and New York too hard to turn down. Keeping Melo appears to have gotten harder.
 3 years ago '04        #11007
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Berman

The Knicks’ dream vision of pairing Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James in the summer of 2015 took a big hit with Tuesday’s decision by King James to opt out of his Miami contract. The chances of James and Anthony pairing up elsewhere this summer also appear slim, while the dreamer could say it’s Step 2 toward the formation of a Big 4 on South Beach.

The Knicks had hoped James would opt in and become a free agent in 2015, when the Knicks would have major cap space. (James also held a player option for 2015-16.)

There is one scenario in which James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh each opt out and sign one-year deals at lesser values to give Heat president Pat Riley more wiggle room to add a noteworthy player this offseason, but that seems far-fetched.

If Bosh and Wade also opt out, a foursome would have to split the pie four ways. Estimates have Anthony taking in $15 million as a starting salary, well below the $22.5 million max the Knicks can offer in Year 1. All told, a Miami package would come to $70 million less (over four years) than the Knicks’ possible five-year, $129 million deal. One other scenario has Bosh heading to his hometown Dallas Mavericks, leaving a spot for Anthony.

Anthony and James are buddies and would love to play with each other. To team up with Kobe Bryant in Los Angeles, they would have to come at a discounted rate because the Lakers have cap room for just one maximum player.

Anthony opted out of his contract Sunday, and there are signs he is leaning toward returning to the Knicks. His agent, Leon Rose, said Melo “loves” being a Knick. Anthony said in a video interview with Vice Sports he is leery of uprooting his family from New York and isn’t focused necessarily on winning a title just next season, saying he is looking at “the big picture.”

The sentiment is James likely will re-sign with Miami and continue to be rivals with Anthony — whether he’s a Knick or a Bull.
 3 years ago '04        #11008
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Walter Tavares & Baby Big Dog, Glenn Robinson III in the 2nd round would be a good look


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 3 years ago '04        #11009
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Hope that trade happens for Larkin, bonus with Jose and goodbye to Felton n his contract
 3 years ago '12        #11010
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we might get larkin and 34th for tyson abd felton i take it
 3 years ago '08        #11011
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any word on that knicks/mavs trade being done? gotta get ray ray out of here.
 3 years ago '07        #11012
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Trade is gonna happen thats a good look, jose will be a big upgrade for the starting spot




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 3 years ago '04        #11013
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 Funeral James said:
Trade is gonna happen thats a good look, jose will be a big upgrade for the starting spot
Indeed, not loving that contract though
 3 years ago '04        #11014
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hate to see either go but it looks like Larkin OR Shump will be moved if they can get a 1st rounder....since our cap space for next year won't be as much now, might as well cop some 1st round picks right?
 3 years ago '04        #11015
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i wanna hear...well read thoughts and opinions about this trade (and JUST the trade, not what this might do for 2015 or rumors of people being moved who are included in the trade)
 3 years ago '04        #11016
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Begley

The New York Knicks and Dallas Mavericks have completed a deal to send Raymond Felton and Tyson Chandler to Dallas in exchange for Jose Calderon, Samuel Dalembert, Shane Larkin, Wayne Ellington and the 34th and 51st picks in the Thursday's draft.

Here is what the deal means for the Knicks:

Good for Melo? One of the primary goals for Carmelo Anthony in free agency is to put himself in a position to win immediately. This trade, on its surface, appears to leave the Knicks in a position to be more competitive than they were before it. Therefore, it might give Melo confidence that the Knicks can at least compete in the East in 2014-15.

As Anthony said in a recent interview, "The average person is looking at it as, 'Next year you win the championship if you go here.' We’re looking at the big picture here now."

How did the Knicks get better in this deal?

Felton struggled on both ends of the floor last season, so the Knicks have upgraded at point guard with Calderon.

Chandler also had a down season -- by his standards -- but the Knicks might be hard pressed to find someone Chandler’s equal when it comes to rebounding and protecting the rim. Dalembert, based on recent seasons, would be a downgrade at the center position from Chandler.

But this trade might have also helped the Knicks in other ways this summer.

Depending on if they decide to waive Dalembert or not, the Knicks might also end up under the salary cap. If they do end up under the cap, they might be able to use a larger exception than the taxpayer exception (which starts at $3 million), which is currently at their disposal, in free agency this summer.

This might help them attract another significant rotation player to New York and, in turn, make Carmelo more apt to re-sign.

It’s worth noting, though, that Anthony and Chandler were close. Still, Anthony had to look at Chandler’s situation and realize that he wasn’t a part of the team’s long-term future. So the notion of Chandler not being around next season shouldn’t sway Anthony greatly -- in terms of his views on re-signing with the Knicks -- one way or another.

That said, could Chandler’s presence in Dallas make the Mavs a more attractive destination for Anthony this summer? We’ll have to wait and see on that.

Phil makes presence felt: Chandler wasn’t happy with how things went last season. Publicly and privately, he expressed his frustration with ex-coach Mike Woodson’s defensive schemes and the idea that the Knicks were about to retool the roster.

So we wouldn’t be surprised if Chandler went to management with his concerns and it, in turn, decided to deal him.

Jackson sending Chandler out a year before his contract ends is a sign that the Zen Master is willing to make major moves to overhaul the team as soon as possible. It’s also a sign that he might be aggressive in making trades and chasing available free agents this summer despite the Knicks’ limited resources.

Any attractive piece he adds this summer could help in courting Carmelo this summer and other free agents in future offseasons.

Cap implications: If the Knicks keep all of the players in this trade, they will have saved $3 million in cap space for 2014-15 but forfeited $5.2 million in cap space in the summer of 2015, when they are expected to chase big-name free agents.

Calderon is under contract through 2016-17 at between $6.7 million and $7.7 million per season. Dalembert’s contract for next season is a team option for $3.8 million. He has $1.8 million in guaranteed money. Ellington is under contract for $2.7 million for 2014-15. Larkin is on a rookie contract through 2017-18.

Felton was on the books through 2015-16, owed a total of $7.6 million. Chandler was under contract through the 2014-15 season for $14.6 million.

Depending on what they do with Dalembert, this deal could save the Knicks between $3 million and $5 million in salary after this transaction. If they decide to cut Dalembert, they could be under the projected salary cap of $63.2 and have a larger salary-cap exception to use in free agency.

It is unclear at this point what their plans are for Dalembert. Also, it’s worth noting the Knicks can immediately trade in a separate deal the players they've received from Dallas. If they don’t trade them immediately, they’d have to wait 60 days to do so, per collective bargaining agreement rules.

What about Calderon? Calderon is a strong shooter but struggles on defense. His shooting can be a big a.sset in the triangle offense and is an upgrade from Felton, who shot 39 percent from the floor last season and just 31 percent from beyond the arc.

Calderon averaged 11.4 points and handed out 4.7 a.ssists last season. He hit 45 percent of his 3s.

Also, as Bleacher Report’s Howard Beck notes, Calderon is close with Memphis Grizzlies center Marc Gasol, who is a free agent in 2015, so Calderon could be counted upon to do some recruiting for the Knicks that summer.

And the picks? The Knicks had been trying to deal for a first-round pick and also hoped to get a second-round pick between 30 and 40. The Knicks might target a big man like Florida’s Patric Young, whom they worked out, with the 34th pick.
 3 years ago '04        #11017
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With Chandler gone, Patric Young might be a good look even though he's an undersized low ball player.
 3 years ago '04        #11018
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Berman

Phil Jackson’s roster overhaul has begun on the eve of the NBA Draft.

The Knicks and Mavericks executed a blockbuster deal Wednesday that sent center Tyson Chandler and Raymond Felton to Dallas for point guard Jose Calderon, shot-blocking center Samuel Dalembert, point guard Shane Larkin, shooting guard Wayne Ellington and two second-round picks.

The Knicks will acquire the No. 34 and 51st picks in Thursday’s draft, but, more importantly, they upgraded their point-guard position and ended the Felton era. That was the priority in getting the veteran Calderon and the young prospect Larkin, who had an injury-marred rookie year after being a first-round pick out of the University of Miami.

The Knicks have decreased their cap space for 2015 by about $5.2 million. Calderon is to make a little more than $7 million per season for the next three years. Larkin will make $1.6 million in 2015. Felton was due $3.9 million in 2015. Interestingly, Felton earlier this week made a plea agreement on his gun charges that will avoid him jail time.

“The journey to build this team for the upcoming season and beyond continues,” Jackson said in statement Wednesday night. “We have added players with this move that will fit right into our system while maintaining future flexibility.’’

Lakers point guard Steve Nash, hosting his soccer showdown on the Lower East Side, told The Post of Calderon: “It’s good. He’s good for the triangle [offense], too. Great shooter. Intelligent player. Brings chemistry and shooting. At the point-guard position, that’s very important.’’

The decrease in cap space for 2015 makes it even more imperative for free-agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony to take less than the maximum salary from the Knicks.

Chandler had expressed uncertainty about his future with the Knicks late in the season, saying both sides had “a lot of decisions” to make. Entering the final year of his pact, he returns to Dallas, where he won a title in 2011, but left as a free agent.

Chandler is scheduled to make $14.6 million this season and saw no future with the club focusing on the 2015 free-agent crop. It is likely he asked to see what Jackson could do on the trade front. Chandler didn’t seem to be the prototype Jackson center for the triangle — which benefits from a low-post, slick-passing big man.

Though their lockers were together, Anthony and Chandler didn’t seem especially close.

The Knicks were desperate to upgrade the point-guard position. The move should give Anthony more hope about the future, as Calderon solidifies their weakest position — though he isn’t known as a stout defender. His career offensive numbers are sweet — 10.2 points, on 47.9-percent shooting — 41.1-percent from 3-point range — and 6.8 a.ssists in 634 games over nine seasons with Raptors, Pistons and Mavericks.

The trade reunites Calderon, a Spaniard, with former Toronto teammate Andrea Bargnani. A source said Bargnani was crushed when Calderon was traded to Detroit in January 2013.

Jackson said earlier this month he would make a move to cut into the 2015 cap space for the right players, and he obviously believes in the Calderon-Larkin package.

“Phil would like to shake things up [in the draft],’’ a league source told The Post Wednesday before the deal was revealed. “He knows the team has to get better. He’s working on it.’’

In Dalembert, Jackson may have acquired a serviceable spot starter. Though he has slid the past couple of years, the 33-year-old 6-foot-11 Haitian averaged 7.8 points on a career-best 56.8-percent shooting, 6.8 rebounds and 1.18 blocks over 20.2 minutes in 80 games (68 starts) last season.

If Jackson waives Dalembert, the Knicks may be in position to possess their $5 million mid-level exception, as opposed to the taxpayer mini-midlevel worth $3.2 million, to sign a free agent in July.

In the draft, the Knicks could take Florida center Patric Young, whom they worked out, with one of their second-round picks. They have also worked out Arizona combo guard Nick Johnson.

The Knicks still have $1.8 million to play with Thursday to attempt a first-round move, with shooting guard P.J. Hairston a potential target, but it’s unlikely.

Larkin, the son of Cincinnati Reds great Barry Larkin, played in just 48 games as a rookie and had a brief stint in the D-League in his rookie year, after breaking his ankle in July during summer-league practice.
 3 years ago '04        #11019
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word is the Cavs are calling around to see about interest in the Magic's 4th and 12th pick (aka they might trade the 1st pick for those two), hopefully Phillip got a call and sees whats really good with that 12th pick at least.
 3 years ago '04        #11020
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According to Tommy Dee, someone offered to take Barg but NYK declined... Now I wanna know who that team was and for what... Better be good cuz Barg is gonna be awesome in the triangle
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