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 3 years ago '06        #10881
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 Born_Loser said:
hearing Shumpert & Chandler
they can go

every draft has a Shumpert type of player
 3 years ago '04        #10882
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Based Hahn

This year's is the 13th first round pick the Knicks have traded or swapped in the last 27 years. What came of them:

As we await tonight's NBA Draft Lottery, it's always a fun (sarcasm) time to review Knicks draft history.

It should be noted that Mark Jackson is the last player the Knicks drafted who went on to be NBA Rookie of the Year. He was selected in 1987.

Since then the team has often fallen short on talent and 40% the time didn't even have a first rounder in the draft.

So what happened to all those picks since 1987? Let's review:

1988 - 11th overall pick went to Bulls in a swap of picks via the Charles Oakley trade. Bulls took Will Perdue. Knicks grabbed Rod Strickland at No. 19.

1989 - No. 22 pick went to Blazers (Byron Irvin) via Kiki Vandeweghe trade.

1993 - No. 26 pick went to Orlando (Geert Hammink) via 3-team trade (Clippers) for Charles Smith and Doc Rivers.

1995 - No. 24 pick went to Mavericks (Loren Meyer) via Rolando Blackman trade.

1998 - No. 16 pick went to Rockets (Bryce Drew) from Blazers, originally from Chris Dudley trade.

2000 - Acquired No. 18 pick from Raptors in Dudley trade, then flipped it later to 76ers for rights to Mirsad Turckan.

2001 - No. 18 pick went to Rockets (Jason Collins), originally to Suns in Luc Longley trade.

2002 - No. 7 pick (Nene) went to Nuggets via Antonio McDyess trade.

2004 - No. 16 pick (Kirk Snyder) went to Jazz, originally to Suns in Stephon Marbury trade.

2006 - No. 2 pick (LaMarcus Aldridge) went to Bulls in Eddy Curry trade.

2007 - No. 9 pick (Joakim Noah) went to Bulls as swap in Curry trade. Used No. 23 to take Wilson Chandler.

2010 - No. 9 pick (Gordon Heyward) went to Jazz, via Suns, via Marbury trade.

2012 - No. 16 pick went to Rockets (Royce White) via Jared Jeffries/Jordan Hill salary dump trade.

2014 - Lottery pick goes to Magic (Dwight Howard trade) via Nuggets via Carmelo Anthony trade.

So that's a lot of first round picks that went unused. The most damage, so far, came from the McDyess, Marbury and Curry trades. Four of the five picks lost turned out to be lottery picks. Of course the Anthony trade still has to be judged because of the lottery pick status. The Nuggets also can swap 2016, which goes to the Raptors via the Andrea Bargnani trade.

The Knicks won the NBA's first lottery drawing in 1985 (Patrick Ewing), but haven't won a draft lottery since the new system was implemented. There is a 0.7% chance their slot -- owned by the Magic -- comes up at No. 1.

But it won't...right?
 3 years ago '04        #10883
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Marc Stein & Ramona Shelburne

New York Knicks president Phil Jackson continues to send out signals that he's in no rush to hire a coach until he can seriously discuss the position with Oklahoma City's Derek Fisher, according to sources close to the process.

Sources told ESPN.com on Sunday that Jackson is planning to proceed with a deliberate coaching search after the Knicks, convinced they were getting Steve Kerr, watched their runaway No. 1 candidate choose the Golden State Warriors instead.

Fisher's interest in coaching remains a matter of debate, with Oklahoma City coach Scott Brooks telling the New York Daily News over the weekend that it wouldn't surprise him if the 18-year-veteran decided to play on for one more season. Either way, Fisher is trying to deflect all questions about his future -- as a coach or front-office executive -- until after the playoffs, hoping to limit distractions as the Thunder prepare to face the San Antonio Spurs in the Western Conference finals starting Monday night.

During the last round of the playoffs, Fisher said, "I would tell people to allow me to finish my career as a player before they give me another job after that. It's humbling, just to think about people thinking of me in that manner, especially while I'm still playing. [But] I promise you this is the last thing on my mind at this point. I really haven't thought about it that much. Hopefully there's a lot of basketball left to be played this season for sure. Once that's done we'll go from there."

Sources say that in addition to Fisher, the Knicks still have interest in Denver Nuggets coach Brian Shaw but do not currently plan to ask the Nuggets' permission to speak with him. Because league rules restrict teams to offering only cash or draft picks as compensation for coaches, and not players, sources say New York fears it likely can't meet the Nuggets' demands if it were to try to get Shaw out of his contract.

Jackson is a longtime Shaw fan who, sources say, would have had the Nuggets' coach atop his wish list (along with Kerr) had Shaw been a coaching free agent this summer. But the Knicks' barren cache of draft picks would appear to snuff out any hope of extricating Shaw from the last two years of a three-year contract that averages roughly $2 million per season. Shaw posted a 36-46 record this season with the injury-riddled Nuggets. New York, for the record, doesn't have a first-round pick to offer any team in any deal until 2018.

Jackson's preference since ousting Mike Woodson has been hiring a coach he's worked with in the past, either as a player or a former a.ssistant like Shaw. But sources say that the limited options at his disposal after missing out on Kerr could prompt the 11-time champion coach to start broadening his approach.

ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard confirmed over the weekend that Jackson has discussed the vacancy with veteran NBA coach Mike Dunleavy. Sources say Jackson has not ruled out a sit-down with Knicks fan favorite Mark Jackson, who has rejoined ESPN as a broadcaster after his dismissal by the Warriors.

Former NBA head coach Kurt Rambis, who worked as an a.ssistant to Mike D'Antoni with the Lakers last season, and current D-League developmental coach Luke Walton of the L.A. D-Fenders are on Jackson's short list as well. But sources say Rambis and Walton are more likely regarded as potential a.ssistants for the eventual head coach, with another of Jackson's former players with head-coaching experience -- Bill Cartwright -- having already received an interview for what was presumed to be a spot on Kerr's bench.

Los Angeles Clippers a.ssistant coach Tyronn Lue, who played briefly under Jackson as a Laker, has also been mentioned repeatedly as a name on Jackson's radar.

The Knicks, sources say, remain convinced that they were on the brink of a deal with Kerr when Stan Van Gundy unexpectedly took the Detroit Pistons' offer to serve as their coach and team president last week, which led to Golden State making a renewed pitch to Kerr that ultimately trumped New York's offer.
 3 years ago '04        #10884
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Berman

SAN ANTONIO — Spurs president R.C. Buford, considered the preeminent executive in the NBA, says Phil Jackson doesn’t need his advice as he plows through a new job.

Buford recently was named 2014 Executive of the Year, and his Spurs are three wins a way from their sixth Finals berth since 1999.

“Phil knows how to build teams,’’ Buford told The Post at AT&T Center Monday night. “He’ll be terrific. We’re are all chasing what he built and developed. I don’t think he needs anyone’s help.’’

As a coach with the Bulls and Lakers, Jackson won 11 titles. Buford’s Spurs have captured four championships and were three seconds away from a fifth last June in Miami. The Spurs have posted 15 straight 50-win seasons.

While Warriors consultant Jerry West says Jackson has his work cut out for him in adjusting from coach to executive, Buford disagrees.

“Team building is team building,’’ Buford said. “He’s obviously had a big influence in several different circumstances that have been successful. There’s all kinds of limitations in building a team and he’s faced with some with their current situation, but I don’t know if there’s been a finer team builder. I don’t know how you can predict how successful he would be, but I wouldn’t bet against his credentials.’’

After the Knicks hired Jackson for five years and $60 million in March, some NBA insiders wondered why owner James Dolan didn’t take half that moolah and make a run at Buford or Oklahoma City GM Sam Presti, a Buford disciple. It’s no surprise they are battling in the Western Conference Finals.

According to a source close to Buford, the Kansas native likely would not have been interested in taking Dolan’s money to move to New York and away from the great Gregg Popovich.

“He believes he’s got the greatest job in the league and works with the greatest people,’’ the source said. “Why would he want to leave that?’’

During the Chicago draft combine last week, Detroit’s new president/coach Stan Van Gundy said he hopes to have a sitdown with Spurs officials to see how to run a franchise the right way. Van Gundy hoped Buford would be willing because the downtrodden Pistons compete in a difference conference. But that meeting doesn’t seem likely, considering Buford’s secretive ways.

During a 45-minute Q & A in the Austin American Statesman, Buford wouldn’t reveal his tricks. “I can’t tell you – if I told you, everybody would be doing it,’’ he said.

But he said the way he picks players is a science.

“We have a specific list of deal-breakers that are non-negotiable,’’ Buford said. “If players want New York or LA, they’re not going to come here. … If someone’s more interested in winning scoring titles, this probably isn’t the place for them.’’
 3 years ago '04        #10885
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just putting this out there, Kings are willing to give up the 8th pick for a veteran player
 3 years ago '04        #10886
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just read this in some article that i don't believe for a sec but i'll put it on here for sh*ts and giggles


Klay Thompson & David Lee for Melo
 3 years ago '14        #10887
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 Born_Loser said:
just read this in some article that i don't believe for a sec but i'll put it on here for sh*ts and giggles


Klay Thompson & David Lee for Melo
if melo was guaranteed to leave and they include barnes I say do it

 3 years ago '14        #10888
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 Born_Loser said:
just putting this out there, Kings are willing to give up the 8th pick for a veteran player
please lord let them take jr

 3 years ago '04        #10889
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Begley

LeBron James can opt out of his contract at the end of this season to test free agency. He can do the same thing after next season.

The New York Knicks, of course, are well aware of this.

In a perfect world for Phil Jackson & Co., LeBron opt outs out his contract after next season and tests free agency in the summer of 2015.

New York is expected to be well under the cap at that point and should have the money to make a serious play for James.

But money alone won't be enough to lure James to New York, according to ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst. The Knicks will also need to prove that they're ready to contend for a title.

Writes Windhorst:

When James looks at his menu of options next month he will focus on being with a team that is built to contend for championships right now. Not in two years. Not after new teammates get their first taste of the playoffs. Now.

At age 29 and in his prime, James is not in the business of playing for a team that is still developing. He wouldn't have much interest in losing a season while a coach is learning the ropes, either. James is very focused on adding titles and being on a team that has the expectation to be a yearly contender, essentially a situation like he has been in for the past four seasons.



Windhorst later adds:

If he were to make a dramatic jump again at this point in his career, it would almost certainly take a situation like he chose in 2010, when the Heat offered an incomparable package of star power and title readiness. It likely would take some sort of dream scenario again to get James to even think about moving on.

It's hard to see the Knicks putting themselves in position to contend year in and year out by the summer of 2015.

If they re-sign Carmelo Anthony, maybe they can sell James on a tandem of he and Anthony (and a first-round pick, J.R. Smith, Tim Hardaway Jr., Iman Shumpert) being surrounded by accomplished veterans willing to accept veteran's minimum contracts.

If you're James, would you be interested in that situation?

Woody "proud" of Knicks record: Ex-Knicks coach Mike Woodson reflected on his time with the team earlier this week on ESPN Radio's "Mike & Mike" show.

"I feel good about what my staff and I did in New York. We took a team that was struggling, got them into the playoffs," Woodson said. "The next year we went with some old heads like Jason Kidd and Kurt Thomas and Rasheed and Camby and an unknown guy like Pablo Prigioni and we put a helluva team together. Glen Grunwald, along with Mr. Dolan and the front office people, and we were able to win 54 games. … I was proud of that team."

Woodson, who is holding a golf tournament in Las Vegas in late July, also reiterated that he hopes to get back into coaching next season.

"Extremely quick. I would like to get back as soon as possible," the coach said.
 3 years ago '04        #10890
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Berman

Mallory Edens, the NBA Draft lottery sensation and 18-year old daughter of the Bucks new owner, is actually a diehard Knicks fan. She attended about 15 to 20 games at the Garden this season and according to a close friend she possesses a trove of Knicks apparel.

Edens, who sat on the dais representing the Bucks at Tuesday’s lottery, is a senior at Trevor Day School on the Upper West Side, graduating next month and is in her fifth season on the girls’ basketball team. She also runs track and plans to compete for the cross-country team at Princeton next fall, according to the friend.

Edens sat next to Sixers’ legend Julius Erving at the lottery when the Bucks landed the second pick and became an overnight Internet sensation.

Wesley Edens, a Manhattan hedge-fund investor, bought the Bucks last month and has said he will keep the team in Milwaukee. The family has had Knicks’ season tickets in recent years. Edens said jokingly to his children he would make them “burn’’ their Knicks gear, but never went through with the threat. Edens has three older siblings. Two brothers and a sister.

“The family are huge Knicks fans, so they’re not making the kids give that up,’’ the friend said. “She has tons of Knicks stuff. She’s allowed to own it and wear it. The dad is not in any way stopping them from being Knicks fans also.’’

However, the friend added, “Since her father bought the team her heart is also now in Milwaukee and will cheer hard for the Bucks.”

Edens’ Twitter following rose from 250 followers to more than 45,000 in two days.

“It’s like obviously weird for her, but she’s not like panicking,’’ the friend said. “She’s not like an attention seeker so it’s a bit weird, but she’s generally pretty well-composed.’’

Her two favorite Knicks are Tim Hardaway Jr. and Carmelo Anthony, the friend said. The Bucks finished with the league’s worst record but now have a shot at adding either Jabari Parker, Andrew Wiggins or Joel Embiid with the draft’s second pick.

As for how she was selected to represent the Bucks, Mallory said after the lottery ended, “[My father] sort of brought it up in passing one time and I thought he was joking and then here I am so I suppose it wasn’t a joke.’’
 3 years ago '04        #10891
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Begley

Mike Dunleavy Sr. acknowledges that he’s probably on the “outside” looking in when it comes to the Knicks coaching search. But he still believes he has a good shot at landing the job, partially due to his knowledge of the triangle offense.

“I hope so,” he said earlier this week on ESPN Radio’s “The Herd with Colin Cowherd.” “One of the things for me, as a player, I played in the triangle system down in Houston. It was kind of left over from when Tex Winter coached there. All my teams, I’ve run it for us as a transition set for us. Like, ‘Hey on misses we’re going to run out of this into the triangle.' And part of that was also the fact that I was thinking at some point in the playoffs we’re going to run into Phil’s teams. And by the time we get there my guys will know the triangle very well to be prepared to play them. So maybe I’m the outside guy from the other guys that he’ll talk to: former players for him who have played in the system and other guys who have coached under him in the system. But at least I do know the system.”

Dunleavy Sr. talked to Jackson last week about the coaching job, sources confirmed to ESPN The Magazine’s Chris Broussard. A source told Broussard that Dunleavy is not at the top of Jackson's list, but is indeed a candidate.

Dunleavy, who has coached four NBA teams over 17 years, is also a candidate for the Los Angeles Lakers' open job.

Jackson would prefer a younger coach who he can mold in the same manner that Pat Riley developed Erik Spoelstra in Miami, sources have told ESPN.com’s Marc Stein and Ramona Shelburne.

So Dunleavy doesn’t fit that mold, which is why he himself acknowledged that he’s an “outside guy.” But Dunleavy and Jackson have a relationship having coached against one another for years. According to Broussard, the two stayed in touch frequently while both were in Los Angeles.

Dunleavy told Cowherd that he thinks Jackson will “gravitate” toward running the triangle but that there is room for the pick and roll and other traditional basketball sets in Jackson’s playbook.

“Even for Phil’s teams, late in games, a lot of times, he ran his plays “52” “53” which is Kobe Bryant pick and roll or Michael Jordan. Or “32, 33” elbow catches for Pippen and Jordan. So he mixes other things into the triangle as well,” Dunleavy said. “As a point of reference or basic flow offense, it’s a great offense.”

Dunleavy admitted to being a little surprised that guys without coaching experience such as Steve Kerr and Derek Fisher were considered leading candidates (at different times) for the Knicks job.

"A little bit, sometimes," Dunleavy said when asked if he was surprised by the influx of inexperienced coaching candidates. "But again, guys who are point guards are the closest thing to being coaches on the floor. So it depends on what your expectations are of those guys. Typically I still think there is a learning curve. And the other tough thing, of course, is depending on what market you’re starting out in media-wise and how tough that might be. So it just depends. If you’re going into a program where they say we’re going to give you a couple years to have that learning curve that maybe you would have gotten if you were an a.ssistant coach some place, you make mistakes on the run, that type of thing. It depends on the expectations and what you’re supposed to deliver in your first year."
 3 years ago '04        #10892
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word is Thibs would leave Chicago if he could get his dream job....and i'm posting this here so take a fu*king guess what team would that be
 05-23-2014, 05:03 PM         #10893
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 Born_Loser said:
word is Thibs would leave Chicago if he could get his dream job....and i'm posting this here so take a fu*king guess what team would that be
 3 years ago '07        #10894
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 Born_Loser said:
word is Thibs would leave Chicago if he could get his dream job....and i'm posting this here so take a fu*king guess what team would that be
yo I'd roll up to Chicago & drive Thibs to NYC my damn self if he wants the Knicks job.
 3 years ago '04        #10895
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Begley

He hasn’t been offered the job, but Rick Fox said he’d welcome the opportunity to coach the Knicks. Still, he believes, like many Knicks fans, that Phil Jackson is “the best guy” to be head coach.

"I'm hoping -- I keep saying to Phil Jackson -- he needs to coach the team. He's the best guy for it. He's the holy grail of coaches,” Fox said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. “If he needed my support in some way, it'd be hard to turn him down. Or if he needed me to step in and do the job myself, I'd definitely welcome that."

Fox played under Jackson in Los Angeles and won three titles with him. The two dined in Manhattan last week, though it is unclear what they spoke about. Fox is currently an analyst for NBA TV and has never coached before.

Jackson is believed to be looking for a young coach who he can mold, comparable to what Pat Riley did in Miami when he hired Erik Spoelstra. Jackson would also like a coach with a strong knowledge of the triangle offense.

Fox knows the offense well. Another ex-Laker, Derek Fisher is a leading candidate for the job. Jackson and Fisher are expected to talk after the conclusion of the Oklahoma City Thunder's season. Oklahoma City trails San Antonio, 2-0, in the best-of-seven Western Conference Finals.

Luke Walton, Tyronn Lue, Jim Cleamons, Kurt Rambis and Mike Dunleavy Sr. are also candidates for the opening.
 3 years ago '08        #10896
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Luke Walton lol
 05-24-2014, 11:07 PM         #10897
Kitsch 
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Spencer Hawes is a poor man's Kevin Love, I like him.

Get it done Phil.
 3 years ago '04        #10898
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Berman

Carmelo Anthony staged a dinner meeting with his entourage Friday night to discuss his free-agent future, according to a source familiar with the situation.

Anthony, his Creative Artists Agency agent Leon Rose, and CAA advisor William Wesley were in the group of six at a well-known haunt on 28th Street called Pergola in a strategy session discussing their options. The source said the group sat in a private back room.

Anthony has kept an extremely low profile since the regular season ended in mid-April unlike past offseasons.

On April 29, Anthony met secretly for two hours at a Tribeca steakhouse with Knicks president Phil Jackson, who told him at the time Steve Kerr was going to be the new Knicks coach.

Things have changed significantly since Anthony and Jackson met. Kerr passed on Knicks after initially being lowballed on a three-year, $13.2 million offer. Kerr’s reluctance to sign allowed the Warriors to rejoin the fray after Kerr initially declined to interview with them.

Jackson is now back to square one and Anthony could have been getting updates on the Knicks coaching search which has been at a standstill. Jackson prefers Brian Shaw over Derek Fisher but it doesn’t appear the Nuggets would allow Shaw, who just completed his first season as their coach, to interview with the Knicks.

Jackson is waiting on Fisher’s season to end with the Oklahoma City Thunder. That could occur later this week.

That Jackson was unable to recruit his buddy Kerr had to be an alarming development for Anthony, considering Jackson’s primary presence is to be a recruiter for the 2015 free-agent class.

Jackson is not familiar with the CAA agency and has talked about ending the perception the superagency has undue influence on the Knicks. However, Knicks general manager Steve Mills and a.ssistant GM Allan Houston are close with Wesley.

Jackson, in no uncertain terms, said soon after the season he will need Anthony to take a pay cut — less than the maximum salary — to re-sign. That would give the Knicks greater flexibility in adding to the roster in 2015.

It was Anthony’s original suggestion he would take less than the maximum, but Jackson’s comments raised eyebrows. However, it is believed Anthony was not offended.

“I like to appeal to his better nature of winning,’’ Jackson told reporters in late April. “There’s some obvious examples that everyone can point to.’’

Jackson referred to the Miami trio of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh and San Antonio’s Tim Duncan. “A precedent has been set,’’ Jackson said.

Anthony’s potential decision to re-sign with the Knicks may be by default. Two of his prime candidates, Houston and Chicago, still have to get far enough under the salary cap to make it worth it for Anthony. The Bulls may have to rid themselves of Mike Dunleavy, Carlos Boozer and Taj Gibson on a squad that was knocked out of the playoffs in the first round. Plus, Anthony would be banking on the uncertain future of the oft-injured Derrick Rose.

The Rockets were also knocked out in the first round and need to get rid of Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik to get under the salary cap. Meanwhile, the Lakers have cap space but sources maintain they aren’t too interested in Anthony as a fit with Kobe Bryant. Nor is Lakers president Jeanie Buss enthralled with stealing Anthony from Jackson, her fiancé.

Dallas is also said to be interested in Anthony but also has to get under the salary cap. The Knicks still remain strong favorites, even if Jackson isn’t off to a sizzling start.
 3 years ago '04        #10899
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Begley

The name of one somewhat surprising New York Knicks player keeps coming in conversations around the league as the draft and free agency draw near.

Combo guard Toure' Murry, coming off his rookie season, is said to be on the radar of a handful of teams -- Chicago and Golden State among them -- that are hoping the shift in power in New York from the Knicks' previous administration to Phil Jackson leads to Murry becoming an unrestricted free agent.

ESPNNewYork.com reported last week that the Brooklyn Nets also have interest in Murry.

The Knicks can make Murry a restricted free agent and obviously increase their chances of keeping him by extending the Wichita State product a qualifying offer before June 29. In that scenario, New York could match any offer Murry received in free agency.

But if they decline to extend Murry a qualifying offer, he'll become an unrestricted free agent.

At 6-foot-5, Murry would figure to appeal to Jackson, who has always favored big guards not only in his triangle offense but for the physicality they can bring to the position.

Murry, 24, averaged a mere 2.7 points and 1.0 a.ssists in 7.3 minutes per game last season but showed a glimpse of what he can do in the season's final two games, scoring 12.5 points per game and handing out 3.5 a.ssists in 25.5 minutes in those appearances.
 3 years ago '07        #10900
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Murry is the best pg on the team hope they don't trade him, has potential.




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