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 4 years ago '07        #10841
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wouldn't want to trade Shump, but for Noah? That's better than what Tyson would give us in the long run...

Sends Shump home to Chi, Tyson back where he started, and send Noah home to NY too... could work out... if we got Tony Snell, then I'm with it
 4 years ago '08        #10842
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If Noah had a better offensive game I'd do that trade
 4 years ago '04        #10843
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 dj ac said:
If Noah had a better offensive game I'd do that trade
He's basically a more consistent on defense Chandler doe
 4 years ago '04        #10844
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 I Am The Truth said:
wouldn't want to trade Shump, but for Noah? That's better than what Tyson would give us in the long run...

Sends Shump home to Chi, Tyson back where he started, and send Noah home to NY too... could work out... if we got Tony Snell, then I'm with it
Yeah for the trade to work, chi would have to give up about 3.5 mill contract/s in return
 4 years ago '04        #10845
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Ian Begley

The Golden State Warriors are confident they have a strong chance to land Steve Kerr, but the Knicks are still believed to be the favorites in the race to hire the TNT broadcaster.

A source with knowledge of the Warriors' thinking says the team believes it has a "legit shot" to land Kerr as its next head coach. The organization is hoping that Kerr's ties to president Rick Welts will "bring [Kerr] over since they are so close."

Kerr has several ties to the Warriors organization, including strong relationships with owner Joe Lacob, son Kirk Lacob (who works in Golden State's front office) and Welts, with whom Kerr worked closely while general manager of the Phoenix Suns.

Despite the full-court press applied by Golden State, the Knicks are still the favorite to land Kerr as the next head coach, a league source told ESPNNewYork.com's Ian O'Connor on Wednesday evening. The source cited Kerr's respect for Phil Jackson and said those feelings outweigh the lure of taking a Golden State job that would leave him closer to his California-based family.

"Unless something changes," the source said, "the relationship with Jackson is a very big part of this, and that's the way it looks like it will go."

The Warriors are well aware the Knicks have an advantage over them in their pursuit of Kerr due to his ties to Jackson.

The Warriors, according to a source, will try to sell Kerr on the benefits of coaching a team coming off a 51-win season and boasts one of the best young backcourts in the NBA with Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson.

"They're selling the situation more than the money because they know they can't outbid [Knicks owner] James Dolan," the source said.

The Warriors, according to the source, will point out that other Knicks coaches who have worked under Dolan, including Larry Brown, Lenny Wilkens and Mike D'Antoni, have been fired or resigned. The thought process behind pointing that out is this: If that happened to experienced coaches, then what will happen to Kerr, who has never coached before?

But Kerr's ties to Jackson might outweigh that factor.

The Warriors are also a bit wary Kerr might be using his talks with them as leverage for his potential deal with the Knicks, the source said.

In addition to the Warriors and Knicks, the Utah Jazz are the latest team trying to barge into the race for Kerr, a source told ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

The Los Angeles Lakers also have a head-coaching vacancy, but, as of last week, Kerr wasn't giving Los Angeles strong consideration, according to a source with knowledge of Kerr's thinking.

Kerr and Jackson met to discuss the Knicks' coaching vacancy late last month. Kerr won three titles with the Chicago Bulls while playing for Jackson and said last month the Knicks wouldn't have any interest in him were it not for Jackson's presence.

Kerr called Game 2 of the Oklahoma City Thunder-Los Angeles Clippers game on Tuesday night. He was expected to head home to discuss the job openings with his family, so a decision could come as early as Thursday.
 4 years ago '04        #10846
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Ian Begley

Mark Jackson revealed in separate radio interviews on Wednesday that he hasn't heard from the Knicks yet regarding their coaching vacancy, and he'd like to coach again.

Jackson said on ESPN New York 98.7 FM's "The Stephen A. Smith and Ryan Ruocco Show" that he believes "coaching is in my future."

"There are some great jobs available," said Jackson, who was fired by the Warriors on Tuesday. "... I am exited about the next chapter in my life and what lies ahead. We'll see what happens."

The Knicks have a head-coaching vacancy but have not yet reached out to Jackson, the ex-Warriors coach told "The Dan Patrick Show."

Knicks president Phil Jackson is instead focused on Steve Kerr. The Warriors also have interest in Kerr.

A source with knowledge of the Warriors' thinking says the team believes that it has a "legit shot" to land Kerr as its next head coach. The organization is hoping that Kerr's ties to president Rick Welts will "bring [Kerr] over since they are so close."

Despite the full-court press applied by Golden State, the Knicks are still the favorite to land Kerr as the next head coach due to his relationship with Phil Jackson, a league source told ESPN New York's Ian O'Connor on Wednesday evening.

Phil Jackson is believed to be interested primarily in coaching candidates whom he has a relationship with.

In addition to interviewing Kerr, who won three titles under Jackson, the Knicks president has also talked to Bill Cartwright, who played under Jackson in Chicago.

Phil Jackson and Mark Jackson, who grew up in New York City, starred at St. John's and played for the Knicks, have no prior relationship.

Mark Jackson told Smith and Ruocco that he was "grateful" for the opportunity to coach in Golden State but was upset that unnamed sources released information about his firing before it was made official.

"There's not a question anymore, can I coach," Jackson said. "That's been proven. I'm grateful for the opportunity and we'll see what lies ahead."
 4 years ago '04        #10847
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Screamin' A. Smith

No one should have a problem with Steve Kerr being a leading candidate for "a" coaching job.

He's a five-time champion. He's been groomed by champions. He's a former executive and a respected basketball mind who is far from the first individual with no coaching experience whatsoever to be on the verge of landing a head-coaching gig.

But that would be "a" job. As in one job. Not two jobs. Or three. Or four, depending on what reports you believe. For any individual with Kerr's lack of experience to have that many opportunities laid at their doorstep, it begs the question: "What the hell has Steve Kerr done to deserve multiple dabs at the cookie jar?"

Feel free to provide an answer to this question, folks.

Take your time. I'll wait.

For weeks, we've heard that Kerr has been the candidate for the New York Knicks' coaching vacancy. He's the guy Knicks president Phil Jackson wants. Actually, he's the only one, since no other candidate has even entered the equation. And if anyone has a problem with this, consider it nonsensical.

It's Kerr who won titles with Jackson. It's Kerr who knows the triangle offense. It's Kerr who has a personal relationship with Jackson, and is the man in whom Jackson purportedly trusts. And if the former coach with 11 rings wants a personal mentee to serve as a subordinate on the sidelines, it makes perfect sense.

But what sense do the Golden State Warriors make, since they called Kerr to gauge his interest practically minutes after firing Mark Jackson, fresh off of a 51-win season? What about the Los Angeles Lakers, who reportedly have some interest? Or the Utah Jazz, for that matter, who conceivably have zero chance of any reciprocated love from Kerr considering the other opportunities placed at his front door?

The answer would be simple: It makes absolutely no sense at all.

As unpopular as it might be to ask, I must: What exactly makes Kerr so special to anyone other than Jackson and the Knicks job? And oh, by the way, when has such an opportunity ever presented itself to any of his counterparts, especially blacks?

Avery Johnson is a former NBA Coach of the Year who guided the Dallas Mavericks to an NBA Finals, but can't get a sniff right now. Sam Mitchell, another former COY, has been relegated to depending on NBA TV and Sirius XM Radio to remain relevant.

Stan Van Gundy, an exceptional coach, is still available. Lionel Hollins can't garner interest despite guiding the Memphis Grizzlies to the Western Conference finals last year -- even while his successor followed it up with getting bounced in the first round. Some have questioned whether Mike Woodson will ever get another look after the season the Knicks just had, despite the fact that he'd just won 54 games and took the Knicks to the conference semis for the first time in 14 years just a season earlier.

We won't even bother elaborating on how former Detroit Pistons president Joe Dumars was forced by ownership to hire Lawrence Frank instead of Woodson more than two years ago, before being forced to fire Mo Cheeks about 50 games into this season. And we won't bother with how Kerr is actually a hot commodity compared to Jackson, who was just fired by the Warriors despite back-to-back playoff appearances for a franchise that hadn't accomplished that feat since 1992.

Instead, one must ask, why Kerr? Does anyone know if he can coach? Not necessarily for the Knicks' job, but more so for the several jobs apparently at his disposal?

"I've known him for 20 years," Warriors co-owner Joe Lacob said of Kerr, almost immediately following Jackson's firing. "I think very highly of him as an individual -- a great human being as well as a great basketball mind and a great pedigree."

Agreed.

But since when were those personal characteristics enough to qualify someone with zero experience at any level for multiple head-coaching gigs?

Has anyone taken a moment to ask if personal relationships and affections are all it takes to be a prime candidate these days, especially in three of the largest markets in the United States? What exactly does that say about black candidates -- and others -- who don't have such personal relationships to lean on?

As disgusted as we all should be that Mark Jackson lost his job after a 51-win season, the Warriors have every right to move in a different direction if they so choose. And so does Phil Jackson, particularly since anything would qualify as an improvement after the season we just witnessed in New York.

If Kerr has such intimate relationships with any of the other teams interested in him, more power to the TNT analyst. He's an incredibly nice man, unquestionably astute at the game of basketball, who deserves a shot. Mark Jackson got his without experience. So did Doc and McHale.

Except it's one thing to be a candidate for "a" job, and quite another to be THE candidate for several.
 4 years ago '07        #10848
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Kerr aint sign yet I think he holdin out for golden state so fu*k em




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 4 years ago '04        #10849
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 Funeral James said:
Kerr aint sign yet I think he holdin out for golden state so fu*k em
i never wanted him to begin with so double fu*k him
 4 years ago '04        #10850
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Berman

The Knicks have no issues with Steve Kerr finishing out his TNT playoff responsibilities before joining the franchise as their full-time head coach.

The Post reported in Friday’s editions Kerr has decided to finish out his TNT playoff schedule, doing the Western Conference finals with Marv Albert. That series won’t end until late May/early June.

Kerr has yet to agree to terms with the Knicks but multiple sources told The Post they are the clear front-runner, with Golden State still his fallback choice if Knick negotiations break down.

Regarding his decision to stick with TNT to the bitter end, Kerr stated in an email: “It’s the right thing to do, and I want to do it. I am under contract to do so, and I will finish up my work before moving on.’’

A resolution won’t come until next week, according to an NBA source. Kerr has been back home in San Diego since Thursday, finalizing the decision with his family, but Phil Jackson is not there with him. Kerr has spoken to the Warriors, but Kerr believes the opportunity to work with Jackson in New York is too good to pass up and only would take the Warriors position if things don’t work out contractually with the Knicks, according to a source.

It has been reported there also is a split among the Warriors’ family, with some players preferring top candidate Stan Van Gundy.

Kerr and Albert, TNT’s top team, aren’t scheduled until Tuesday’s Game 5 in Oklahoma City, so a decision could come Monday.

Next week’s Chicago pre-draft combine normally is attended by the head coach, but the Knicks don’t have a draft pick in either round. Kerr’s access as TNT broadcaster actually could bring him closer to the game than if he was back in Tarrytown. Jackson had said he didn’t feel a great need to have a full-time coach on hand until the Las Vegas summer league in early July.

Sources have said formal contract details have to be worked out, likely causing the delay. A resolution had been expected by Friday.

Kerr’s agent is Mike Tannenbaum, the former Jets general manager. It is believed Tannenbaum is seeking a five-year deal for Kerr, the same length as Jackson’s.

It is also believed Kerr is seeking a similar financial deal as Mike D’Antoni had when he inked a four-year, $24 million pact with the Knicks in 2008. Jackson and owner James Dolan might have to overpay to get Kerr to move across the country.

This is Tannenbaum’s first high-profile coaching negotiation since he left the NFL for the Bartelstein agency. Tannenbaum was known as a hard-nosed negotiator in the NFL, and it is believed he is using the Warriors’ interest to get Kerr a better deal.

“Mike’s a smart guy, but he’s on the other side of the table now,’’ one NFL agent who negotiated several deals with Tannenbaum. “When he was management, it was purely economical. Now there are non-economic factors.’’

Kerr also will have to sell his small piece of the Suns. An NBA spokesman said he would get “a reasonable’’ amount of time to do so after becoming a head coach.
 4 years ago '04        #10851
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Begley

Steve Kerr hasn’t decided yet whether he’ll become the head coach of the Knicks. But if he ends up in New York, Kerr will have a strong supporter in Amar'e Stoudemire.

“I like Steve Kerr. For one, when he was a GM (in Phoenix, when Stoudemire was with the Suns) he was always preaching about winning and winning a title and that's something that I adored about him,” Stoudemire said earlier this week on “The Herd with Colin Cowherd” on ESPN Radio. “And then also, secondly, he has a formula to win; he's been a winner in this league before. He wants to win. And he reminds me of somewhat of a player-coach that knows the game and knows what players go through as far as ups and downs throughout the year and that's going to help him.”

Kerr, according to an NBA source, is with his family in San Diego contemplating offers to coach the Knicks and the Warriors or remaining with TNT as a broadcaster. The Knicks are believed to be the favorite, thanks to Kerr’s strong ties to Knicks president Phil Jackson. It is unclear if either team has made a formal contract offer.

The Knicks are expected to offer a deal that is close in length to the five-year contract Jackson signed in March. If New York ends up in a bidding war with Golden State over Kerr’s services, it would surprise many around the league if Knicks owner James Dolan loses that f!ght.

There is one aspect of the Kerr-Golden State dynamic that appears in the Knicks’ favor. There is somewhat of a split in the Warriors organization in its support for Kerr. Two sources told ESPNNewYork.com on Thursday that management prefers Kerr but some players have privately expressed support for another candidate, Stan Van Gundy.

If Kerr ends up in New York, Stoudemire is confident he can thrive under the leadership of Kerr and Jackson. The 11-year veteran pointed out that versatile big men such as Pau Gasol have thrived in Jackson’s triangle offense.

“I think what he looks for in bigs are bigs that have multiple skills,” Stoudemire said. “You better shoot the ball from the outside, put the ball on the floor when need be, make great passes out of double-teams, sort of being a pressure-release guy. Versatile bigs are what I think he looks for and that's what I am.”

Stoudemire is entering the final season of a five-year, $100 million pact he signed with the Knicks in 2010. His future under the Jackson regime is unclear. There has been speculation Jackson may look to move Stoudemire in a trade this summer in an effort to create salary cap space. Stoudemire is owed $23.4 million next season.

Jackson, though, was complimentary of Stoudemire’s play late in the 2013-14 season. The 31-year-old started the final 20 games and averaged 16 points on 57 percent shooting in that span.

"We’re all happy to see Amar'e have a resurgence here," Jackson said in early April. "It’s been a long, hard struggle for him, rehabbing and trying to get himself ready for this opportunity and we’re happy to see that."
 4 years ago '08        #10852
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Amare won't be here after next year tho
 4 years ago '04        #10853
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Woj

"Knicks have been slow to overpay Steve Kerr in deal length or salary, sources say. Tried treating him closer to 1st-time coach than a star."
 4 years ago '07        #10854
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 Born_Loser said:
Woj

"Knicks have been slow to overpay Steve Kerr in deal length or salary, sources say. Tried treating him closer to 1st-time coach than a star."
They are finally learning




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 05-12-2014, 01:07 PM         #10855
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Sig check.
 4 years ago '04        #10856
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Jeff Van GODdy
Thibs (if available)
Mark Jackson
Stan Duh Man Van GOdy

are still coaches i prefer....in that order but phillip wants a puppet to do his bidding so if that works, fine
 05-12-2014, 01:15 PM         #10857
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I'd rather have a Phil pawn than an established coach. It could be BJ Armstrong, Scottie Pippen, Bill Cartwright, Rusty LaRue, Joe Kleine, David Vaughn or Craig Hodges it doesn't matter.
 4 years ago '04        #10858
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Berman

Steve Kerr will be behind the TNT microphone Tuesday night in Oklahoma City for Game 5 — and likely will still be without an agreement in principle to coach the Knicks.

Even though the Warriors have been all but out of the picture for several days, financial terms of a contract still have not been worked out between Kerr and the Knicks, who seem to be in no rush.

An NBA source said there’s a possibility negotiations could drag on even beyond Wednesday.

Kerr’s camp had figured a resolution would have come by last Friday. But there doesn’t seem a great urgency from the Knicks because Kerr isn’t ready to work full-time for the club until after the Western Conference finals end in early June.

Kerr, as The Post reported, has decided to finish out his contractual duties with TNT and work the West finals with Marv Albert.

The Chicago pre-draft combine begins Thursday, but head coaches don’t always attend. The Knicks don’t have a first- or second-round pick, but will look to buy one at the end of the draft. Phil Jackson is expected to go to Chicago.

Kerr could still show up even without a signed contract. Kerr and Albert will do Game 5 Tuesday between the Clippers and Thunder, and aren’t scheduled again until Sunday for Game 7, if necessary.

The Post reported last week Kerr preferred the Knicks over Golden State because of his ties to Jackson, but that contract details still had to be ironed out. Agent Mike Tannebaum hoped to use the Warriors’ interest as negotiating leverage. But Golden State never made Kerr a formal offer.

What is Kerr worth? That’s the $24 million question. The Post has reported Kerr’s agent was looking for in the neighborhood of Mike D’Antoni money when the former Suns coached inked a four-year, $24 million pact to come to New York. However, there’s belief the Knicks were hesitant about spending that kind of cash on a big name with no head-coaching experience, even as an a.ssistant. Still, Kerr is the perfect fit for Jackson and held a higher position as the Suns president/GM/minority owner.

After D’Antoni departed, Woodson signed a modest three-year pact for about $3.3 million per season. Woodson had fired his agent Keith Glass before the negotiations to hire C.A.A.’s Terry Price. Glass has subsequently told The Post he would have sought at least a three-year, $15 million pact.

This is Jackson’s first negotiation as a team president. He’s facing the former Jets GM, Tannenbaum, who was known as a hardnosed negotiator in the NFL.
 4 years ago '04        #10859
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Berman

Meet me in OKC?

In a bizarre turn, the Knicks’ snail-pace negotiations with Steve Kerr has led desperate Golden State to make a final push for the TNT broadcaster.

The Knicks believe they are still prohibitive favorites to sign Kerr. However, the Warriors were planning to send their front-office types to Oklahoma City to try to convince Kerr to leave Phil Jackson at the altar, according to Yahoo Sports.

The Knicks don’t appear concerned and they could still reach a contract agreement with Kerr by Wednesday or Thursday, but it added another layer of intrigue to what should have been a slam dunk.
The Warriors’ sense of urgency occurred when their top choice, Stan Van Gundy started negotiating a five-year, $35 million deal with Detroit to not only be their coach but also have final say in personnel matters.

Kerr has decided emphatically he wants to coach the Knicks and learn under Jackson’s wing, ruining a mountain of errant speculation he prefers staying on the West Coast. But he is waiting on financial terms to be worked out in the ongoing contract negotiations. Kerr was in Oklahoma City broadcasting Tuesday night’s Game 5 of the Clippers-Thunder second-round series.

Kerr could still make it to Chicago and join Jackson for Thursday and Friday’s pre-draft combine since he’s not due back on TNT until Sunday in Oklahoma City if there’s a Game 7. The Chicago combine would be a place to interview a.ssistants for his staff.

The Post reported the Knicks weren’t in a big rush to finalize the Kerr deal and that it could last beyond Wednesday. The Knicks’ leisurely pace could be due to Kerr’s plans of fulfilling his commitment to TNT and not working full-time for the Knicks until after the Western Conference Finals in early June.

A source close to Kerr said talks with the Knicks had been “quiet’’ on Tuesday, but they will have a better handle “soon.’’ It seems inconceivable owner James Dolan will be outbid by Golden State on Jackson’s first attempted coaching hire.

“Steve’s a really thoughtful guy, he’s weighing all his options right now,’’ Kerr’s agent Mike Tannenbaum said on “The Herd’’ on ESPN Radio Tuesday. “Obviously he has a very close relationship with Phil Jackson. thinks the world of him and we’ll see where the next couple of days go. He’s remarkable person, very talented, accomplished a lot. Any decision he makes will be a thoughtful decision.’’

The Post reported Tannenbaum, the Jets former general manager, was originally hoping to get in the neighborhood of Mike D’Antoni money — the four-year, $24 million pact he signed to join the Knicks from Phoenix in 2008. But the belief is the Knicks found the sum too steep for someone without any coaching experience.

Still, Kerr wants to work with Jackson, as Tannenbaum indicated.

Asked their relationship, Tannenbaum said, “Tremendous. It’s built on trust and mutual admiration and multiple championships. Anyone would be interested in coaching would have a great opportunity to have that as a resource. Steve is thoughtful, methodical, taking his time. Whatever decision he winds up making will be a thoughtful one. We’ll see how the next few days play out.’’

Tannenbaum is confident Kerr will become a star coach.

“Whatever Steve does, he’ll be successful,’’ Tannenbaum said. “He’s been preparing to be a coach for a number of years. When the day comes when he does coach, he’s done everything he could to put himself in position to be successful.’’
 4 years ago '04        #10860
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THANK YOU IMAGINARY GOD....Kerr to the Warriors
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