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 4 years ago '04        #10761
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Berman

Knicks team president Phil Jackson referred to himself as “a magician’’ in his latest leadership book, “Eleven Rings,’’ for magically blending big egos into one unified team. But he’s not ready to sprinkle pixie dust on the rudderless 2013-14 squad f!ghting for its playoff life.

Jackson was at the Knicks’ Tarrytown facility Wednesday, but when the club resumed practice after a two-day hiatus, the Zen Master declined to watch. It likely is the last practice Woodson will conduct this season.

The Knicks cancelled Thursday’s practice in advance of Friday’s showdown in Toronto, and they might not practice again in the season’s final week because of a lack of healthy bodies.

Meanwhile, the greatest basketball mind/leader/coach of all time has yet to give Woodson any advice or input on what he has seen. Woodson said Jackson’s strategy appears to be to stay out of his way.

It also looks as if Jackson isn’t looking to create a bond with a coach he’s ready to fire after season’s end and bring in a coach who can institute his triangle offense such as Steve Kerr, Jim Cleamons, Brian Shaw or Kurt Rambis.

“I’m sure Phil is just — I gather he’s kind of staying out of the way and letting me do my thing in terms of trying to get this team in the playoffs,’’ Woodson said. “That’s OK. I’m sure when the time comes we’ll have a chance to sit down and talk and see where we are. But first things first. We’re in the playoff race trying to get this eighth spot. That’s where everybody’s focus should be.’’

Evidently, Jackson is trying to distance himself from this season’s 33-45 club — whose playoff chances hang by a thread.

The Hawks’ 105-97 win over the Celtics Wednesday night cut the Knicks’ tragic number to two. There’s a chance the Knicks can be eliminated Friday with a loss in Toronto and an Atlanta victory in Brooklyn. Nets coach Jason Kidd has already said he will rest some of his regulars against the Hawks. It looks like the Knicks will need to go 4-0 the rest of the way and hope Atlanta goes 1-3.

Woodson said Jackson is more intent with meeting with their scouts, though the Knicks don’t have a first- or second-round pick in June’s highly touted draft. Knicks general manager Steve Mills did watch practice.

As a coach, Jackson never was enamored by meddling general managers. Jackson feuded with former Bulls GM Jerry Krause and Lakers GM Jerry West — once cursing at West for entering the locker room while he was talking to the players after a game.

“He’s here conducting business, meeting with scouts and Steve, doing things he’s supposed to be doing,’’ Woodson said. “And he’s letting me coach. That’s all you can ask at this point. At the end of the day, we’re trying to get this team in the playoffs. And I’m sure when that time comes for Phil and I to talk, we’ll talk.’’

Woodson’s buddy, the apparently still-bitter Larry Brown, went off on his former team during a radio interview this week.

Brown said Mills has “no clue,’’ and Woodson was put in an unfair situation with Jackson being hired to clean house. Brown did not leave the Knicks on good terms, fired after one season and having a legal dispute over his contract.

“Larry’s his own guy,’’ Woodson said. “I have a great deal of respect for Larry. But Mike Woodson is his own guy as well. For me, it’s been a rollercoaster year for all of us. I’ve never shied away from taking responsibility of this team.’’

Later, during his weekly appearance on ESPN Radio, Woodson took responsibility for the Knicks’ disappointing season.

“I could’ve been better as a coach,” he said. “You can point the finger there as well. As a coach I take pride in what I do. I’ll never pass the buck on anybody. This season’s been tough for a lot of people. I take full responsibility.’’

Atlanta has put the Knicks on the brink.

“It’s hard,’’ Woodson said. “When it’s 20 games, you’re locked in on your own team and worry about what you’re doing. Now we got to keep a close eye on what Atlanta’s doing. Everything is triggered off what we do, but sure we’re watching.’’

“I think it’s going to be tough,’’ Amar’e Stoudemire said. “We put ourselves in this predicament.’’
 4 years ago '06        #10762
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the knicks have been officially eliminated



















 4 years ago '07        #10763
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Welp... it was fun folks... let's hope we can do something in the off-season
 4 years ago '04        #10764
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The Knicks were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs Saturday, rendering their old, 2010-inspired plan an official failure, clearing the slate for a brand new blueprint to unfold.
That is, the plan new president Phil Jackson will present to Carmelo Anthony — perhaps during exit interviews later this week — in hopes of ensuring he re-signs.
When Steve Mills was hired as general manager by owner James Dolan four days before training camp, he came in to implement the next plan of attack, to take advantage of cap flexibility for 2015 and possibly 2016 that would entice Anthony to stay put.
Mills and Dolan sold Jackson on the plan during their four-month courtship. But as a person close to the situation says, Jackson is in charge now and has the right to take a detour anytime he wishes.
Jackson appears committed, however, to the notion of grinding through next season, allowing the Knicks’ multitude of expiring contracts to come off the books and going full bore at the heady free-agent class of 2015 that could feature Anthony’s buddy, LeBron James, whom they lost out on in 2010. James has yet to decide whether to opt out this summer.
The contracts of Amare Stoudemire ($23 million), Tyson Chandler ($14 million) and Andrea Bargnani ($11.5 million) all come off the books after next season.
The Knicks stand to possess a load of 2015 cap space — even more if Anthony acts on his own suggestion of taking a “paycut’’ to give the franchise more flexibility.
“There’s a lot of unknowns,’’ one NBA personnel director said regarding the new plan.
What’s known is the 2015 free-agent class is deep and rich — including Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge, Goran Dragic, Rajon Rondo, Tony Parker, Roy Hibbert, Paul Millsap, DeAndre Jordan and Marc Gasol. Even Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh could be free agents in 2015 if they also don’t opt out this summer. If the Knicks don’t hit a home run in 2015, Kevin Durant is free in 2016.
“There’s no doubt that projecting ahead, this year’s free agent crew, we’re not particularly in the running,’’ Jackson said recently. “Not a great crop coming this particular year. But [2015] does have a group of guys together. Steve and I are going to work to manage the roster, our financials, so we can have an impact in that area.’’
Dolan believes Jackson’s 11 coaching rings will be a magnet to lure superstars to New York and convince Anthony to stick and watch the Zen Master try to build his 14th championship team — including two as a Knicks forward.
“I do think Phil’s recruiting ability factors in, but keep in mind when Pat Riley was recruiting LeBron, he already had Wade and Bosh committed,’’ an Eastern Conference GM said. “I’m not so sure Riley gets LeBron without that.’’
Some in the league think Jackson should do what so many other presidents did in 2013-14 — tank. The Knicks could fall into the lottery in 2014-15 when they actually have a first-round pick — a strategy that makes more sense if Duke’s Jabari Parker stays in school.
“They may want to wait a year and bite the bullet,’’ one Western Conference GM said.
It may not be in Jackson’s nature to do so. And Anthony may not want to hear such talk after missing the postseason for the first time.
Jackson, indicating he still wants to win next season, said, “We’re not losing sight of the fact that we’re in a game-to-game basis in this business. And we want to provide a team that’s talented, a team people want to come to watch, and a team that’s truly competitive.’’
However, Jackson’s pitch to Anthony for next season isn’t clear-cut, other than hiring a new coach such as Steve Kerr — who possibly would install Jackson’s Triangle offense — or a more selfless system than Mike Woodson’s predictable scheme. Since Anthony hasn’t come close to a championship in 11 seasons, the thinking is he will buy into anything Jackson says when it comes to systems.
The Knicks will have one big trade chip in Chandler, who isn’t the type of space-eating, post-up, Triangle-type center Jackson likes. Jackson also could try to see if he can revive trade talks with the Clippers and upgrade the point-guard position with Darren Collison, but the Zen Master is said to like Iman Shumpert.
The Knicks have a trove of expiring contracts to deal this summer, but they aren’t as valuable under the new collective bargaining agreement. For one, the new CBA calls for shorter-term contracts across the board. However, at next year’s trading deadline, teams in fear of losing a prominent free agent could be game.
The Knicks don’t have a first- or second-round pick in June’s draft. However, they are willing to buy a second-round selection and also believe the draft is so stocked, a rotation player could fall out of the draft.
Jackson, meanwhile, said he believes there are diamonds in the rough presently sitting on benches with other NBA clubs, and hasn’t excluded Lamar Odom from making his comeback next season as a Knick.
“We’re going to have to go out and work the bushes for players this next year,’’ Jackson said. “We’re going to have to work the coming years as we go forward when we do get draft picks and we have a chance to build this team. We want to also ferret out players who really want to play the type of ball that we want them to play at Madison Square Garden.’’
Indeed, Jackson’s pitch to Anthony can’t all be about new personnel, but a new culture and a basketball philosophy that has a track record.
However, TNT’s Kenny Smith isn’t buying the Riley comparison, wondering about Jackson’s commitment.
“A lot of people are comparing him coming to the Knicks with Pat Riley coming to the Heat,’’ Smith said recently. “But the difference with Pat Riley is he’s there every day, at every practice, at every game. That’s what attracts free agents to Miami, that he knows he’s going to be there if there’s an issue.’’
Former Heat coach Stan Van Gundy scoffed at the notion Jackson will be a master recruiter.
“I definitely don’t think a player makes a decision based on a front-office guy he’s going to have limited contact with,” Van Gundy told the Miami Herald.
If the solid organizations such as the Bulls and Rockets pull off a coup and generate major cap space, it’s not out of the realm Jackson’s plan will fall on deaf ears.
“Will Carmelo be persuaded on what Phil is saying they’re ‘going’ to do?’’ one personnel director said. “That’s a leap of faith.”
A $60 million leap of faith.

Staying or going?
Here’s a look at how the Knicks’ current roster may shake out:

Carmelo Anthony: Was leaning toward leaving before Phil Jackson came aboard.
J.R. Smith: Jackson must determine if his talent is worth more than his baggage.
Iman Shumpert: Found new life as Sixth Man and defensive-minded attitude scores points.
Raymond Felton: Big push to move him and upgrade PG position.
Andrea Bargnani: Could be a buyout candidate, damaged goods in any deal.
Tyson Chandler: No. 1 trade pawn of summer, even amiable center may want out.
Tim Hardaway Jr: Will be first-team All-Rookie, only would go in major deal for star.
Kenyon Martin: It’s time to retire and join Jason Kidd’s Nets’ staff.
Pablo Prigioni: Has long-term deal and is selfless player Jackson likes.
Amar’e Stoudemire: Why not ride him and see if big finish can be sustained?
Cole Aldrich: Team player who always should find a roster spot but is free agent.
Jeremy Tyler: Team option on contract and could be thrown into a trade.
Tour’e Murry: Why not try to develop some youth?
Shannon Brown: Knows Jackson and Triangle and is good in locker room.
 4 years ago '04        #10765
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Carmelo Anthony is out of the playoffs for the first time in his career and the Nuggets get the Knicks’ lottery pick from the Melo trade. Yes, this was a 2013-14 disaster for the Knicks and an unthinkable conclusion when training camp opened.
Anthony had hoped the club could somehow sneak into the playoffs but his playoff dream ended, and now the talk turns to his future when July 1 — the first day of free agency — rolls around.
The idle Knicks were mathematically eliminated from the playoff race when the Hawks upset the visiting Heat, 98-85, Saturday night to nail down the eighth seed. The Knicks will go into their 42nd year without a title.
The Knicks (34-45) will take the court against the Bulls Sunday night at the Garden with nothing to play for but pride.
Anthony has said he would suit up regardless despite his strained right shoulder, but conceivably this could be the last game he plays this season. It also could be his last game as a Knick.
After Sunday, the Knicks face the Nets on Tuesday and Raptors on Wednesday. Anthony is likely to rest, making sure his shoulder injury is not serious with more tests.
Though there has been plenty of talk that Anthony would bolt the Knicks, the smart money is that he will stay put because of the addition of Phil Jackson as president and the fact he can get paid the most money if he stay in New York.
Nevertheless, Chicago, Houston or the Clippers also will attempt to romance him.
Anthony called Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau “a great coach’’ in a.ssessing how Chicago has reeled off seven straight games despite their roster upheaval and look close to locking up the third seed.
“[The Bulls] have a great coach and system,’’ Anthony said Friday night after the Knicks temporarily escaped elimination by beating the Raptors. “It’s like Gregg Popovich’s system. You can put anyone in the system and it’s going to work. Guys been in and out of the lineup and they still get it done. ’’
Despite losing Derrick Rose again for the season and peddling Luol Deng in a salary dump, Thibodeau’s team carried on and Thibodeau again is in consideration for his second Coach of the Year Award. The former Knicks a.ssistant would be a perfect hire for Jackson if he wasn’t still bound to the Bulls.
It’s all but certain Mike Woodson is coaching his last three games. He said this week he could have coached better this season and certainly the raft of games the club lost in the final minute and regression of Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith are black marks.
But it shouldn’t be forgotten Woodson got the Knicks to overachieve last season at 54-28, but he couldn’t do it again with this injury-riddled roster.
The good news for Knicks fans is Shumpert found a new life as sixth man and Smith rallied as the starting shooting guard, but it was too little too late. The best story of the season was Amar’e Stoudemire’s late emergence, back as the starting power forward once March rolled around. But the front office babied him in training camp and the first two months, wanting him health for the playoffs. But there will be no playoffs.
The Knicks trail the Hawks by 2 ½ games but would lose the tiebreaker. Their playoff picture could have been totally different had they hung onto a 17-point third-quarter lead in Atlanta days after the All-Star break. If they hadn’t choked in a miserable fourth quarter, they would have won the tiebreaker.
Knicks owner James Dolan already has stated he won’t raise ticket prices next season, sticking to his tradition of a price freeze if they don’t make the playoffs. The Knicks had made the postseason three straight years.
Dolan said he thought the Knicks were a title contender this season and once he realized how wrong he was, he forked over $60 million to Jackson to try to bail out the franchise.
 4 years ago '08        #10766
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Out of those 3 teams chicago would be the best fit for dude if he does leave
 4 years ago '05        #10767
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 4 years ago '07        #10768
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Good read.
 4 years ago '04        #10769
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Phil Jackson and the New York Knicks are progressing toward a deal to sign veteran free agent Lamar Odom before the NBA regular season ends Wednesday, according to sources briefed on the situation.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Knicks are on course, barring an unforeseen snag, to formally sign Odom this week in a move that would put him on their roster immediately and, more importantly, include an unguaranteed second year for next season.

Structuring the deal this way, after a tumultuous 12 months for one of Jackson's favorite players when they worked together with the Los Angeles Lakers, would give the Knicks two months before free agency begins July 1 to get the 34-year-old into their program and start working with him.

The Knicks, sources say, would want to use the extra time to see if they can get Odom to the point, physically and mentally, where the talented but enigmatic lefty is worthy of a roster spot next season.

Still recovering from a back injury that curtailed his recent stint in the Spanish League after just two games, Odom is not believed to be healthy enough to play in the Knicks' season finale Wednesday night in Toronto even if he signs Wednesday.

Sources say this is viewed as a long-range play for the Knicks, who are banking on the notion that Jackson -- in his new role as New York's team president -- can provide the guidance to get Odom's career back on track.

Since joining the Knicks in March, Jackson has acknowledged that he'll have to be creative in trying to upgrade the team's talent, given its lack of salary-cap flexibility before the summer of 2015. This would be a low-cost, low-risk gamble that New York presumably wouldn't be looking at if not for Jackson's arrival.
 4 years ago '04        #10770
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It looks like Carmelo Anthony is out for the season.

Mike Woodson said Anthony likely has played his last game of the season, which is perhaps his last game as a Knick.

Anthony was getting his strained right shoulder re-evaluated with an MRI exam Tuesday morning and did not go to Brooklyn for the Knicks’ shootaround at Barclays Center.
Woodson said Anthony is expected to miss the Nets game Tuesday night, and the Knicks’ lame-duck coach said there’s no reason to play Anthony when this disappointing season ends Wednesday against Toronto at the Garden without a playoff berth or lottery pick.
“I would probably shut him down, even if he could play,’’ Woodson said. “I’m going to tell him I’m not going to play him. That’s what I’m going to do.’’

Anthony has said he will opt out of his contract after the season to become a free agent. The Knicks’ hiring of president Phil Jackson has greatly enhanced their chances of keeping him. Anthony called the Jackson hire “a big move for me’’ Sunday night.
Anthony would finish the season with a 27.4 scoring average on 45.2 percent shooting in 77 games, averaging 38.7 minutes. He shot a healthy 40 percent from 3-point land and hauled in a career-high 8.2 rebounds.

He has been bothered by a shoulder since the last Nets game, when he got entangled with Joe Johnson.

The Lakers have the salary cap space to pursue Anthony, but that seems unlikely. The Bulls, Rockets and Clippers will have interest, but need to pull off a sign-and-trade unless they make deals to get under the cap.
 4 years ago '04        #10771
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Knicks coach Mike Woodson said he hasn’t been kept abrea$t of the Lamar Odom negotiations, but wishes they had signed the forward for this season. Odom is expected to sign with the Knicks before the season finale on a deal with a second, non-guaranteed year.
Odom would not play this season, but would begin to work out under the auspices of the team during the offseason.

If things don’t work out with the troubled big man/reality TV star, who allegedly dealt with drug issues while sitting out this NBA season, Phil Jackson can use the non-guaranteed pact as a cap filler in a trade this summer. The Knicks have one open roster spot.

“His name came up, but nothing ever materialized,’’ Woodson said of Odom. “But his name did come up.

“I like him,’’ Woodson added. “I like Lamar. I don’t know much about it, but from what I hear from [the media]. I think he’s a talent. He could’ve been good for us earlier. He does a lot of things on the floor that help you win basketball games, that’s for sure.’’
The Knicks have carried 14 men since opting not to re-sign Earl Clark after his two 10-day contracts expired. Though the Knicks were in a playoff race and were battered, Jackson decided against using the roster spot to help Woodson.

The Knicks would have been unable to use a released player on the playoff roster, but could’ve signed a D-League big man.
 4 years ago '04        #10772
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Not only is Carmelo Anthony torn up over missing the playoffs for the first time in his career, but for the second straight season, he finished the season playing with a torn shoulder. Whether he’s finished with the Knicks is another matter.

Although not as severe as last season’s injury, Tuesday’s MRI exam revealed Anthony has a small tear in the labrum of his right shoulder but it won’t need surgery at this point, the Knicks announced. Anthony, who sat out last night’s 109-98 win over the Nets, also will miss Wednesday’s season finale against the Raptors.

The Knicks said Anthony will be reevaluated in one month, by which time he could be healed, according to Mike Woodson. The Knicks had called it a “strain,’’ which is akin to a very minor tear. It’s conceivable the injury, which happened when he became entangled with Joe Johnson in a game against the Nets on April 2, could have worsened from playing through it for four games.

Anthony had two tears in his left shoulder after last season’s playoffs — the rotator cuff and labrum. He chose to rehab it and did so successfully. The rotator cuff is considered more serious than a labrum tear.

If Anthony did have surgery, it probably would affect his free agency because the healing process is several months. That’s why he’ll follow the same path as last season and told TNT he can’t wait to begin rehab.

“It’s hard, really hard,’’ Anthony said of missing the playoffs. “I have a lot to think about.”

Presumably he was referring to his future. His chances of remaining with the Knicks were greatly lifted with the hiring of Phil Jackson as president. As Anthony said Sunday, it was “definitely a big play for our organization, for the Knicks and for me.”

Anthony showed up in Brooklyn Tuesday night before the game, entered the locker room where he went around to shake every player’s hand but declined to speak to reporters.

“I feel bad for him more than anyone,’’ Woodson said before Tuesday night’s win.“He had the kind of season where he deserves to be in the playoffs. I feel bad about that.‘’

Anthony refused to take an MRI exam when the Knicks were still in the playoff race. They were eliminated Saturday night.

“Obviously he knew it was bothering him but he hung in there with us and tried to make this last push to the playoffs,’’ Woodson said. “He’ll be good to go in a month or so and we’ll see.’’

At the morning shootaround at Barclays Center, Woodson said Anthony was finished for the season, even though the results of his MRI were unknown.

Anthony finished the season averaging 27.4 points per game on 45.2 percent shooting in 77 games, averaging 38.7 minutes. He also shot a healthy 40 percent from 3-point land and hauled in a career-high 8.2 rebounds per game. He’s the first player since Shaquille O’Neal in 2002-03 to average at least 27 points and 8 boards.

Anthony has been bothered by a shoulder since April 2 when he became entangled with Joe Johnson of the Nets.

The Lakers have cap space to pursue Anthony but that seems unlikely. The Bulls, Rockets and Clippers will also have interest but need to pull off a sign-and-trade unless they can make deals to get under the cap.

Jackson made a rare road appearance sitting in a suite at Barclays and didn’t speak to reporters as he got into his black van afterward.
 4 years ago '04        #10773
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If Knicks president Phil Jackson is more concerned with 2015 free agency than the 2014-15 season, center Tyson Chandler acknowledged this may not be the right place for him.

The Knicks, after missing the playoffs, have mapped out a blueprint to keep open cap space for the summer of 2015 while trying to grind through the 2014-15 season. That could mean few upgrades this offseason when the Knicks actually own a lottery pick if they miss the playoffs again.

Chandler has one year left on his pact at $14 million and becomes a free agent in 2015, when Jackson is looking to pounce on a free-agent class that could include LeBron James and will feature Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge, Rajon Rondo and Goran Dragic, among others.

“I definitely don’t want to waste another season,’’ Chandler said before the Knicks faced the Nets Tuesday at Barclays Center. “I don’t want to waste this season. I’m not into wasting seasons. Your time is too short in this league and I want to win a championship, another one. I’m not into wasting seasons.’’

Asked if Jackson’s plan was more about the future than present, he said: “I’ll cross that bridge when it gets to that point. I hope it’s not that situation.

“That decision isn’t going to be in my hands,’’ Chandler added.

In March in Detroit, after the Knicks had lost their seventh straight game to fall 19 games under .500, a despondent Chandler said ominously of his future: “That’s something I have to visit during the offseason. We’re all going to have a lot of decisions to make.’’

Chandler could easily be used as Jackson’s No. 1 trade chip this summer with his expiring contract and his ability still to play at a high level. Scouts, however, say Chandler saw his first sign of slippage after breaking his leg in the season’s fourth game and missing six weeks.

Chandler is one of the few players in the NBA with experience playing the triangle offense, which he did early in his career with Chicago. It didn’t work.

“I played it my first couple of years, but it was like a square because Phil wasn’t there,’’ Chandler said. “We ran it with Tim Floyd, then Bill Cartwright. It didn’t work out well, but we didn’t have the talent Phil had in Chicago.’’

Chandler still thinks this squad can succeed as constructed, but with better teamwork. When asked if he wants to be part of this new program, Chandler said: “I’m signed up to be part of this program. I think the future can definitely be bright. I think we still have positive pieces. We just have to understand how to put it together.’’

Chandler, who averaged 8.9 points and 9.8 rebounds, is still dumbfounded as to what went wrong during this non-playoff season, which ends Wednesday against the Raptors.

“I thought I had a great summer of training,’’ Chandler said. “I broke my leg early in the year, then from there it spiraled downhill.

“[The chemistry] never felt right throughout the season. We had some bright spots. Never where we were on a level where we should’ve been. I don’t have an answer for that.

“It’s definitely something we didn’t expect. We came with high expectations, high hopes. It’s definitely disappointing.”

After the lockout ended, Chandler, coming off a title in Dallas, signed as a free agent with the Knicks.

“The first year I got here, I understood it would be a building situation,’’ Chandler said. “I felt we had core pieces, just a matter of getting pieces to go along with that. Second year I thought we made strides. This year was just unexpected. I didn’t expect it.’’

Chandler doesn’t want to experience it again.

“I never want to be in a situation like this,’’ he said. “I pride myself on being a competitor and taking the team to another level.”
 4 years ago '04        #10774
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J.R. Smith said he can’t wait for his exit meeting Thursday with new Knicks president Phil Jackson to “pick his brain,’’ considering the Zen Master has had success with a couple of talented shooting guards in the past.

“I haven’t had conversations with him,’’ Smith said late Tuesday night after the Knicks beat the Nets at Barclays Center. “I’m excited to pick his brain a little bit, see what I need to work on, where I can get better at. He’s had the greatest at my position. It will be great to talk to him.’’

Smith was referring, of course, to Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. Smith came out of high school with extraordinary physical talent, but NBA personnel men feel he’s been derailed by an immaturity that led to multiple NBA infractions, including a five-game suspension to start this season for failing three marijuana tests.

“Definitely,’’ Smith said when asked if Jackson can bring him to another level. “The way he’s challenged people mentally, it will definitely work for me. For some reason, people think I’m not a mentally tough or a strong person. It would be great. A good test for me.’’

The enigmatic Smith, who came on strong in the season’s final 1 ½ months after laboring following offseason knee surgery, is likely part of next season’s plan because he would be hard to trade. Many NBA GMs consider Smith to have too much baggage, the problems outweighing the talent.

But Jackson already knows he needs to add scoring punch to aid Carmelo Anthony, and Smith won the Sixth Man of the Year Award last season. Jackson also made a telling comment recently, saying Smith could be the X-factor if the Knicks make the playoffs. Dennis Rodman was another wild child whom Jackson eagerly accepted.

Smith said health – including his own – was the biggest factor in the Knicks’ failing to make the playoffs. Their season ends Wednesday night against the Raptors at the Garden.

“I need two checks for that,’’ Smith said when asked what the club needs for next season. “I think we need to stay healthy, get guys to be consistently healthy throughout the year. I think we have all the right pieces. It was a matter of us putting it in the right spots. We got to start off the year the way we played the last month and a half. Everything else will take care of itself.’’

Title thoughts ran through Smith’s mind in training camp, and he said the end result is “very sour.’’ Smith missed most of camp rehabbing from surgery to repair his patella tendon and meniscus, then sat out the first five games – a development Mike Woodson has blamed for the club’s failure to gain chemistry.

Smith didn’t have full strength in his left knee until around the All-Star Break, he said. Wearing a mask for four weeks to protect his broken cheekbone didn’t help. Smith’s late run raised his scoring average to 14.3 points per game, down from last season’s 18.2.

“Going into the season, I was thinking championship, we were a championship-caliber team,’’ Smith said. “We have the right pieces. We got hungry people, young kids, vets. People been there before. It’s very sour.’’

The Knicks have won three straight – the last two after getting mathematically eliminated.

“It sucks, but you play for self-pride,’’ Smith said. “I’m disappointed but we put ourselves in this position. We had a chance to nip it in the bud a long time ago, but we didn’t. It’s going to be an extremely long summer.”

As for whether he feels his longtime teammate Carmelo Anthony will re-sign with the Knicks, Smith said, “In my heart, I believe he’ll still be here.’’

Smith said he won’t talk to Anthony about it, too uncomfortable.

“I’m not going to talk about it with him at all,’’ Smith said. “He’s got to talk about it with y’all every day about it. I’m not going to talk about it with him because he’ll stop calling me and tell me not to come over no more.’’
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Trade Chandler for a point guard
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Kenyon to have surgery on his ankle and wants to come back next season
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NEW YORK -- The Knicks have signed forward Lamar Odom, the team announced on Wednesday.

A league source told ESPN New York that Odom's contract is guaranteed for the remainder of the season and contains a non-guaranteed option for next season. It will be up to the Knicks to exercise the option.

This gives the team an opportunity to work Odom out and determine his fitness before committing to him for the 2014-15 season.

ESPN.com's Marc Stein previously reported that the Knicks, at the behest of new team president Phil Jackson, had been looking into the possibility of signing Odom for the past few weeks.

Jackson coached Odom for five seasons in Los Angeles. Odom won two championships under Jackson and the 2010-11 Sixth Man Award.

He was traded from the Lakers to the Dallas Mavericks after Jackson's final season as Lakers coach in 2010-11 and has since struggled to approach the same level of production he regularly managed under Jackson.

Odom's health is uncertain at this point. The 34-year-old's short stint playing in Spain ended due to a back injury.

The Queens native has spent time in New York since returning from Spain where he played for Laboral Kutxa Baskonia in the Spanish ACB for just two games.

Odom last stint in the NBA was in 2012-13 with the Los Angeles Clippers.

The Clippers and Lakers had expressed interest in signing Odom at various points this season after a tumultuous summer off the floor that included his eventual divorce from reality TV star Khloe Kardashian.

During the 2013 offseason, Odom also was arrested on a DUI charge and reportedly suffered from substance-abuse issues.

Both the Clippers and Lakers ultimately passed on signing Odom, leading the veteran to make his return in Spain.
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J.R. Smith sang the praises of the Knicks’ new signee, Lamar Odom, the troubled power forward from Queens who was officially signed Wednesday for the final game of the regular season in Phil Jackson’s first personnel move as team president.

The idea is for the Knicks to try out Odom across the next couple of months to see if he’s worth bringing to training camp. Odom will make a pro-rated $8,500 for the one game — 1/170th of the league’s veteran’s minimum.

More importantly, the former Christ The King star signed for a second non-guaranteed year. If the Knicks deem Odom not worth keeping for reasons stemming from his alleged drug issues, that salary figure of $1.3 million for next season can be thrown into a summer trade if need be for salary-cap reasons to make the mathematics work.

“Lamar’s a great player,’’ Smith said after the Knicks finished their season with a 95-92 win over the Raptors at the Garden. “A championship-caliber game, brings so much intangibles to the game. He’s a glue guy to the championship teams. I’m happy to have him.’’

Odom played five seasons for Jackson with the Lakers and won two titles. Arrested for DUI last summer, he didn’t play this season, other than a brief two-game stint in Spain before he was derailed by back issues. In November, he met in November with the Clippers, with whom he played last season, but they passed.

The 6-foot-10 Odom, who recently split with his wife, Khloe Kardashian, holds career averages of 13.3 points, 8.4 rebounds, 3.7 a.ssists and 33.4 minutes in 961 games (684 starts) over 14 seasons with the Clippers, Heat, Lakers and Mavericks. He appeared in two games for Baskonia (Spain) this season and last played in the NBA for the Clippers during the 2012-13 season, averaging 4.0 points, 5.9 rebounds and 1.7 a.ssists over 19.7 minutes in 82 games.

As Jackson still feels out the Knicks’ landscape, he brought in a former Bulls ally in Clarence Gaines Jr. last week to be his “eyes and ears,’’ according to an NBA source.

Gaines Jr., whose father was Clarence “Big House’’ Gaines, the legendary Winston-Salem State basketball coach, does not yet have an official capacity and is just helping Jackson out for now, the source said. He could be named to the front office, but not to supplant Knicks general manager Steve Mills. Gaines could help with the expected Knicks coaching search.

Gaines was Jerry Krause’s right-hand man as a Bulls scout when Jackson coached there. Gaines has been hanging around the team for several days and with the front-office staff, including Mark Warkentien, Mark Hughes and Allan Houston.

“Phil’s not comfortable with a lot of people but he’s very comfortable with him,’’ the source said of Gaines. “There’s some good people in the front office and I don’t think he’s intending to clean house.’’’

Kenyon Martin said he will have left-ankle surgery soon, indicating it would be a “clean-up.’’

Martin missed the final two months but said he wants to return next season as a Knick.

“I’ve got a lot of basketball left and I hope it will be here,’’ he said.
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