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 4 years ago '08        #10561
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Wonder how the team would look if we didn't make those trades like would zbo still be here? would we still have gotten melo or amare?
 4 years ago '07        #10562
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blow up the roster, sell the team, move them to seattle

 11-22-2013, 04:56 PM         #10563
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I actually like Woodson.
 4 years ago '07        #10564
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this n*gga Dolan banned Woody Allen from the VIP box in the Garden cause he didn't want to do free promotion for him
 4 years ago '04        #10565
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Chris Broussard (aka he's making sh*t up again)

The Cleveland Cavaliers are actively shopping second-year shooting guard Dion Waiters, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

Three teams the Cavaliers are known to have spoken with are the New York Knicks, Chicago Bulls and Philadelphia 76ers, the sources said. The Cavs' targets are Iman Shumpert in New York, Evan Turner in Philadelphia and Luol Deng in Chicago, sources said.

It is believed Cleveland has reached out to other clubs as well.

Waiters, whom the Cavaliers drafted with the No. 4 pick in 2012, has a contentious relationship with several teammates, including star point guard Kyrie Irving, and sources say he is open to being traded. In fact, though Waiters has not demanded a trade, he brought up the subject in a three-hour meeting last week with coach Mike Brown and general manager Chris Grant, according to sources.

The Cavaliers are looking to shake things up after a 4-10 start. Part of their problem has been the dysfunction in their locker room. Waiters, a 6-foot-4 guard, got into an altercation with forward Tristan Thompson during a players-only meeting after a 29-point loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves on Nov. 13, sources said.

Sources described the following account:

Irving called the meeting after the game and every player spoke. When Waiters was given the floor, he criticized Thompson and Irving, accusing them of playing "buddy ball'' and often refusing to pass to him. Thompson took umbrage with Waiters' words and went back at him verbally. The two confronted each other but teammates intervened before it could escalate into a f!ght.

However, Waiters and Irving are not close. Waiters believes the Cavaliers have a double standard when it comes to Irving, sources said. Waiters feels that while Irving is allowed to get away with loafing defensively, making turnovers and taking bad shots, he is taken out of games for such things. Waiters has shared his views with Brown and Grant.

Waiters is slumping after a promising rookie season -- both his scoring and shooting percentage are down.
 11-27-2013, 04:02 PM         #10566
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 4 years ago '04        #10567
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Berman

LOS ANGELES – It’s Sob City vs. Lob City when the reeling Knicks face the 10-5 Clippers Wednesday night at Staples Center.

But Amar’e Stoudemire made it clear at the Knicks morning shootaround his locker-room complaints in Portland about the lack of ball movement wasn’t finger-pointing. And Stoudemire said he’s certainly was not blaming Carmelo Anthony, who scored 34 points Monday.

After each of the last three losses, Stoudemire has identified the lack of ball movement as the prime culprit. It figured he was referring to Anthony and J.R. Smith, perhaps more the latter since he has been struggling badly during the six-game losing streak that has dropped the Knicks at 3-10.

Stoudemire said he’s not singling out anyone. Anthony didn’t react well to Stoudemire’s ball-movement theory Tuesday, saying the defense is a much bigger problem.

“You guys do that a lot,’’ Stoudemire said. “When we say things like ball movement, [we’re] talking about it as a team as a whole. We all are a unit. It’s not to single out anyone at all. You guys seem to do that. That’s not the case. We’re a team together and united. When we discuss things like defense, we’re discussing team defense. When we’re discussing ball movement, we’re talking about team ball movement.’’

Stoudemire said he hasn’t talked to Anthony to clear up the issue.

“We all know that we’re together,’’ Stoudemire said. “No sense sitting down 1-on-1 with him. We all understand what we need to do. We love each other on and off the court, so we just got to get through this little rut. Once we start winning, everything will be smoothed out.’’

The Knicks will get back starting point guard Raymond Felton to face Chris Paul. Felton, who sat out four straight games with a hip/hamstring strain, took the blame for the club’s poor ball movement when he played.

But Mike Woodson and Anthony are still much more focused on the defensive end, where the Knicks played awfully during a first quarter in which the Blazers were left open from the 3-point line and got to the rim at will for a parade of layups.

“It’s both,’’ Stoudemire said. “Defense is an area we can still win games when offensively we’re not playing well. That’s what Woodson’s saying. We can still win ballgames, win championships, if you play great defensively. That’s what we’re keying in on now.’’

The Knicks went through an extremely long shootaround at Staples that lasted 90 minutes. The shootarounds usually take an hour at most.

“I wanted to work on some things for us and had to go through their stuff,’’ Woodson said. “It’s a little longer than what we normally do but, hell, it’s not going to hurt us.”

Woodson is trying to push the right buttons of his two shooting guards, Smith and Iman Shumpert, who were dreadful in Portland. Smith was 2-of-8 shooting and in foul trouble. Shumpert had arguably his worst game as a pro, going scoreless without an a.ssist, rebound or steal but with two turnovers.

Woodson has spent the last two days quelling the notion he doesn’t like Shumpert, who appeared to quit on Woodson with Monday’s no-show.

“They can’t have any nights off, they can’t,’’ Woodson said. “Last year, they didn’t have many nights off. I got to get both of those guys playing at a high level. ‘’

Woodson said Felton’s not 100 percent and he is worried about the point guard’s conditioning, so backups Pablo Prigioni and Beno Udrih, who started for Felton, need to stay ready.

“Paul’s not a good match for anybody,’’ Woodson said. “He’s pretty damn good but, hey, Raymond says he’s ready.’’
 4 years ago '09        #10568
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Damn when is Ty comin back?...mf was lookin good like he put some serious work in over the summer
 4 years ago '04        #10569
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The expiration date on owner James Dolan’s recent vote of confidence for coach Mike Woodson is approaching, according to sources.

While Woodson will coach the Knicks when they play the Nets on Thursday, it is unclear how much longer Dolan will allow this losing streak to go on. It has reached nine straight defeats and the team’s mental instability has become an issue. Dolan is obsessed with the Brooklyn franchise and a blowout loss could trigger changes — whether via trade or a coaching move.

Dolan sat down with The Post’s Mike Vaccaro on Nov. 19 before the Knicks played in Detroit and voiced his support for Woodson, but the Knicks have lost seven straight games since.

“I have a lot of confidence in Woodson, and one thing I can say about Mike is he has the respect of all the players,’’ Dolan told The Post in that interview. “They all respect him. And he treats them fairly and relatively equally, and that’s part of where the respect emanates from. And those are hard things to get from a coach. When a coach loses a team, that’s when a coach is kind of done.’’

The Post has also learned that if Dolan eventually makes a move, old enemy and ex-Knicks coach Jeff Van Gundy would not be ruled out as a future candidate — though such a hire seems more sensible in the offseason if Dolan goes with an interim coach.

The Knicks are in shambles, with Woodson even acknowledging after Sunday’s loss to the Pelicans his team is playing scared late in tight games. Carmelo Anthony said the team is f!ghting confidence and “mentality’’ issues, and fixing that often falls on the coach. Anthony has hinted at a fracturing locker room, and there have been an inordinate number of blowups on the bench.

Dolan must be at least mulling whether his public statement still applies. Do the players still respect Woodson? Has he treated the players “relatively equally’’ with the Woodson-Iman Shumpert relationship an issue.

Van Gundy and Dolan were not on speaking terms for the longest time after Van Gundy abruptly quit early in the 2001-02 season. The two exchanged pleasantries at the Garden last season before Van Gundy broadcasted a game for ABC. Van Gundy will be back at the Garden Dec. 11, working the Knicks-Bulls game.

New president Steve Mills worked with Van Gundy for two-plus seasons in his first stint with the Knicks when his title was executive vice president of franchise operations. They got along well.

According to a league source, one issue could be Van Gundy wanting input in personnel decisions in his next job.

A Van Gundy return would also set up the possibility of Bobcats a.ssistant Patrick Ewing coming back as his a.ssociate coach. Dolan and Ewing repaired their broken relationship last season when Ewing worked for MSG Network periodically.

Van Gundy likely would be interested in the Knicks position. In late June, Van Gundy gave a massive mea culpa for quitting on Dolan — remarks that appeared to sit well with Dolan and may have served as an olive branch.

On ESPN Radio, Van Gundy called it “a stupid decision’’ to quit.

“It’s something I regret to this day,’’ Van Gundy said. “I live with it every day and I regret it. And I let my emotions come into it. And I was just emotionally spent. I made a bad decision and I quit….I had a great job with the Knicks.’’

One coach who once worked with Van Gundy said the former Knicks/Rockets coach has never desired taking over for a club in midseason, feeling it’s a tough go.

Van Gundy, whose Knicks record was 248-172, has thoroughly enjoyed his broadcasting gig and it wasn’t until very recently — with his daughter graduating high school — he seriously contemplated a comeback. He last coached the Rockets in 2006-07. He attracted mild interest from the Clippers and Nets last June.

“He’s the No. 1 basketball announcer in the country,’’ said an industry source. “He’s still an important voice. He’s the reason there were rule changes for flopping. But I think he’s got to give coaching one more shot. He has to. It’s in his blood.’’

There are other big names available including George Karl, Mike Dunleavy and Lionel Hollins, who said recently he wants another shot in the NBA after his solid run in Memphis. The problem is he was dismissed by the Grizzlies because of a supposed distaste for the new advanced stats movement. Mills was brought in to take the Knicks analytics a step further.

“I believe I’ve established myself as a head coach and I’d like another opportunity to show that [my success] wasn’t a fluke,” Hollins told ESPN.com. “I feel like I’ve proven I can take a young team and develop it, then sustain what I’ve done by what I did in the last five years in Memphis.”

Meanwhile, Woodson has to instill the confidence in his club before it’s too late. The only positive is the Knicks are just three games out of the Atlantic Division lead, despite being tied for the worst record in the East.

“We have to get together and do something and figure it out as a team,’’ Anthony said. “I don’t know what we have to do to come together a group, sit in here for hours and talk, but we got to do something.’’
 4 years ago '04        #10570
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George Karl can just about forget ever coaching the Knicks as long as Jim Dolan is running Madison Square Garden.

“I watch the Knicks play,” Karl told Denver radio host Dave Krieger, “and I wouldn’t want to be in that hell for a million dollars.”

Of all the insulting, despicable things you can say about Dolan, Karl crossed the imaginary line by calling the Garden boss cheap. One million bucks? Dolan happens to pay his coaches top dollar to put up with his nonsense.

Karl should know since one of his coaching BFF’s is Larry Brown, who pocketed approximately $18 million for one season of that “hell” at the Garden.

“It’s just New York City and the Garden and the immensity of the pressure,” Karl added. “I think Mike Woodson is standing up to it with tremendous integrity.”

Well, Karl is right about that. He and Woodson are also tight and you can bet the two have spoken about everything from Carmelo Anthony to J.R. Smith to Dolan, the eccentric and unpredictable chairman of Madison Square Garden who will decide where and when Woodson “resigns as head coach to become an adviser.” If you haven’t noticed, the Knicks lead the league in advisers as well as workout coaches and, before too long, defeats.

The pressure is most definitely immense right now on Woodson with the Knicks mired in last place in the Eastern Conference, 0-for-November at MSG and riding a nine-game losing streak into Brooklyn on Thursday. A loss to Jason Kidd and the Nets could finally push Dolan over the edge.

The coaches are bracing themselves for the consequences of a 10th straight defeat. Dolan could run them all out of town, or it could be business as usual until the next loss.

That’s how Dolan rolls. He’s like a one-man Mafia. You never know it is coming until it is too late. Well, except for Jeff Van Gundy, who saw the handwriting on the wall and fired himself before Dolan fired him.

It could have been the perfect marriage — the take-no-prisoners workaholic coach and the nutty owner who spares no expense when it comes to his basketball team but needs someone with the guts to say “back off.”

“Say what you want about Jim Dolan but he’s one of about eight owners who is willing to spend money to compete for a championship,” said one current NBA head coach. “There are too many owners who are only in it to make money.”

That is the type of owner Van Gundy, who regrets quitting on the Knicks 12 years ago, could work for. In many ways, he may be the best coach for the job since he understands the shark-infested corporate waters at MSG and is a master at dealing with players and the media.

Two years ago, an intermediary acting on behalf of Isiah Thomas reached out to Van Gundy to gauge his interest in possibly returning to New York. But with Mike D’Antoni still at the helm, Van Gundy refused to entertain the question out of respect for a fellow coach.

That’s why the most recent regurgitated story of Van Gundy returning has more holes in it than the Knicks’ defense. Phil Jackson once discussed coaching the Knicks while Van Gundy was still employed at the Garden and there is no chance of Van Gundy working the back channels with Woodson still on the bench.

“Jeff thinks that is distasteful,” said one of Van Gundy’s close friends. “He also can’t believe how a guy who won 54 games is in trouble when Tyson Chandler has been out and a lot of the other key players are struggling. Carmelo is the one guy playing well but he isn’t getting much help.”

Dolan and Van Gundy have been on speaking terms for a few years now, the peace brokered when Van Gundy returned to the Garden in his broadcasting role. Something tells me Van Gundy’s partner, Mike Breen, helped initiate contact since Breen is also close friends with Dolan’s most trusted adviser, Barry Watkins. That makes sense.

Remember, when Donnie Walsh began his coaching search he said he would consider Van Gundy and did so with Dolan’s blessing. That news is older than Amar’e Stoudemire’s knees.

Would Van Gundy coach the Knicks again? Sure, but only if he got what Woodson wants: better players. Until then, Van Gundy’s current job is better than Woodson’s.

Plus, before I see Van Gundy riding in on a white horse there’s a trusted adviser to Dolan who I’m hearing could be next in line.

No, not that guy.

But Allan Houston, supposedly the GM in training, looms as a potential successor. The word around Knicks camp is that Dolan wouldn’t hesitate to promote him to head coach if the Knicks don’t turn things around sooner than later. Houston’s $100 million contract placed the Knicks in salary cap purgatory for years. Maybe having to coach this Knicks team would be his payback.

Crazy?

Well, if we told you on Sept. 1 that Steve Mills would be back before training camp to run the front office you wouldn’t have believed that either.

At MSG, always expect the unexpected. Based on that history, you’d be a fool to rule out Woodson, Van Gundy and, yes, even Allan Houston.

Karl, however, will never reach the level of “special adviser.”

He’s done.
 4 years ago '04        #10571
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Ian Begley

GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- That whole Kenyon Martin-Metta World Peace thing?

Chalk it up to a difference in culinary tastes.

Metta World Peace, as only he can, explained on Tuesday that his recent argument with Martin was the result of a disagreement over pasta.

We'll let him take you through it.

"We were eating pasta -- he had elbow pasta, I had shell pasta, and I told him how my shell pasta is better than his elbow pasta. And he was pretty upset about that," World Peace said. "He loves elbows pasta, but I disagree, I think shell pasta is better. I don't care. I will stand by that. Shell pasta."

ESPN New York reported on Monday that Martin and World Peace got into a "heated" disagreement during a closed practice on Sunday before the Knicks' loss to the Pelicans.

World Peace's playful explanation, of course, is pretty hilarious stuff. But a source with knowledge of the incident said the Martin-World Peace dustup was anything but a joke.

"There was no pushing or shoving, certainly no punches, but it was heated," a source said. "They were jawing at each other, and you're talking about two guys who are pretty explosive, guys you wouldn't want to mess with. It settled down, but nobody was too eager to jump in between them, let's put it that way."

Player inf!ghting, of course, is typical of the frustration that surfaces when teams are losing. The Knicks have lost nine straight games and are tied with Milwaukee for the worst record in the Eastern Conference.

For what it's worth, Martin denied that he and World Peace had an argument. He referred to the report as "bull----."

Woody: I didn't bench Shumpert because he yelled at Melo: Television cameras showed Iman Shumpert yelling at Carmelo Anthony in the third quarter of the Knicks' loss to the Pelicans on Sunday.

The incident took place during a break in the action. Shumpert, curiously, did not return to the game following the dustup. He sat for the entire fourth quarter.

Most a.ssumed Shumpert was being benched for what he said to Anthony -- and how he said it.

But Mike Woodson on Tuesday insisted that wasn't the case.

"That had nothing to do with anything," the coach said. "During the heat of the battle -- especially when you're losing games -- everybody points the finger and tries to reach for certain things. I'm not gonna allow that to happen with our group. We have a close-knit group."

Shumpert appeared to be upset with Anthony after Ryan Anderson, Anthony's man, hit an open 3-pointer with 5:51 to go in the third to give New Orleans a 62-58 lead.

Shumpert presumably was angry with Anthony because he felt the Knicks star should have bypassed the screen and stayed with Anderson.

Cameras showed Shumpert standing over Anthony and addressing him in a demonstrative tone as Anthony sat on the bench.

"There was a mistake that happened defensively. When that happened, there were some words exchanged," Woodson said. "But at the end of the day, hey, that's behind us and we gotta move on. That's basketball. That happens in sports. Sometimes it's healthy, I think."
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On Sunday, the same night the Knicks lost their ninth straight game to plunge to 3-13, big man Jeremy Tyler finally made his season debut in the D-League for Erie after recovering from stress fracture surgery.

The Knicks are closely monitoring the situation and intend to re-sign Tyler once they think he’s sharp enough and in good enough shape to contribute. He is a free agent, meaning he can sign elsewhere.

According to a source, the Knicks intend to have Tyler play 3-5 games with Erie before re-signing him. That means he could be a Knick by mid-December.

Tyler was cut in training camp because he was still rehabbing and owner James Dolan wanted to keep J.R. Smith’s brother, Chris Smith, as the 15th man in a highly controversial move that triggered the NBA to hold internal talks about the issue.

The question will be whether the Knicks will cut Smith, who is also playing for Erie, guard Tour’e Murry, who is on the roster but almost never plays, or center Cole Aldrich, who has seen almost zero action despite Tyson Chandler’s injury.

Tyler, 22, didn’t have a good debut, picking up three fouls during a rusty first quarter. The 6-foot-10 forward/center, a summer-league sensation, played 27 minutes, scoring nine points on 4-of-10 shooting with four rebounds. But he committed five turnovers. According to one report, he lost the ball a few times after getting pressured on the low block.

Tyler pocketed $200,000 in guaranteed money despite being cut. Because of the Knicks’ luxury-tax bracket, that amounted to an almost $650,000 payout for Dolan, so an investment has been made. The Knicks expect to get back Chandler in two weeks, but they still need frontcourt depth with worries about the long-term health of Amar’e Stoudemire and Kenyon Martin.
 4 years ago '04        #10573
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GREENBURGH, N.Y. –- Jeff Van Gundy is baffled over reports and speculation that Mike Woodson’s job could be in jeopardy.

The Knicks (3-13) are riding a nine-game slide into what will feel like a must-win game against struggling Brooklyn (5-13) on Thursday night. Van Gundy, an ESPN analyst, says the Knicks’ problem is not Woodson but rather “a very limited roster.”

“Listen, Mike Woodson, I believe I have my numbers right, was 18-6 when he took over for Mike D’Antoni,” the former Knicks coach said on “The Mike Lupica Show” on ESPN New York 98.7 FM. “Then he won a division title last year. Then they made some roster moves, had some injuries and so now they are starting Kenyon Martin, Andrea Bargnani, [Carmelo] Anthony, [Raymond] Felton and [Iman] Shumpert. That is the strength of their team.

“Their depth, with some of these injuries, is non-existent,” Van Gundy continued. “Listen this isn’t a coaching issue right now. This is a roster issue. ... The last problem the Knicks have -- the very last problem -- is a coaching issue. Mike Woodson is an outstanding basketball coach who has done an outstanding job. So how can a guy that went from brilliant, be on the proverbial hot seat 16 games into the next season?”

Van Gundy says the Knicks can still make the postseason but to expect much more might be a stretch.

“To a point [the Knicks can turn things around], they can make the playoffs,” Van Gundy said. “But it is a limited roster, very limited roster, with guys who are on the downside of their career. To do it, [Tyson] Chandler has to come back and be really good.

“Carmelo Anthony has to get really efficient offensively and some of the guys who are really struggling shooting the ball are going to have to spread the floor for Anthony so he has enough room to do his work. And they are going to have to shoot the three-point shot a lot better.”

Van Gundy also shot down any notion of him returning to rescue the Knicks if things go south with Woodson.

“Some people think I am behind the scenes plotting my return,” Van Gundy said. “My goodness.”
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Marc Berman & George Willis

Carmelo Anthony didn’t exactly say he’s ready to “retire in New York,’’ but denied Thursday he has made the decision to leave the Knicks this summer, saying it would be “selfish’’ to think along those lines right now.

Stephen A. Smith, the outlandish ESPN personality, reported on air Wednesday that Anthony already has made his decision to leave the Knicks this summer after opting out of his contract and becoming a free agent. Anthony would have to take $33 million less to sign elsewhere under the collective bargaining agreement. But his comment Wednesday when he called the franchise a “laughingstock’’ continued a pattern in which he seems grossly unhappy.

“I don’t think nobody goes where [they’re] expecting to lose,’’ Anthony said after Thursday’s shootaround at Barclays Center in Brooklyn. “I’m going through it and dealing with it. As far as me leaving and thinking about it, I’d be selfish to think about it at this point. With us losing and going through the situation we’re going though, I’d be selfish on my part, to my teammates, to the organization to even have that thought come across my mind.’’

Sources have indicated if the Knicks’ collapse continues this season, Anthony is likely to take less money and avoid a losing situation. He alluded Thursday to not wanting to be in a non-winning environment. The Knicks are 3-13 entering the Brooklyn Bridge Bums Battle.

“I’m not even thinking about it at this point,’’ Anthony insisted. “I don’t know who his sources are. I’m not thinking about it at all. It’s not coming from me and it’s not coming from the people I talk to on a daily basis. I don’t talk to anybody about that on my crew, on my team, family. It’s not true.’’

Though Anthony said he has made no decision, his remarks seemed different in tone from ones he made on TNT in Chicago on Oct. 31, when he said he wanted to “retire in New York.’’ The Knicks were 1-0 at the time.

“They pulled all the strings to get me here, and I wanted to be here,” Anthony said in the TV interview. “And I want to retire in New York, let’s be quite frank. I think a lot of people jumped the gun when I said I wanted to be a free agent. And yeah, I want people to come to play in New York. I want them to want to play in New York. I want New York to be that place where guys want to come play in New York.”

Anthony has been morose this season, making comments about the club having “no chemistry,’’ having “no fun’’ and being in “a dark space.’’

“Nobody ever expected this,’’ Anthony said Thursday. “We’re going through it, dealing with it. We got to start winning some basketball games. Everything else is secondary at this point. For us, trying to stay mentally strong, doing what we got to do to win basketball games. It starts tonight, trying to get confidence back as a team.

“I’ve never dealt with anything like this. It’s definitely a challenge for me to stay positive at this time, keep my team strong mentally.’’
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NEW YORK — Carmelo Anthony didn't want to talk about a report that suggested he's recruiting Boston's Rajon Rondo to New York.

"C'mon, man. In my book, that's tampering," he said.

And he's right. NBA players aren't permitted to recruit any other player under contract to play for their team. But the suggestion that Anthony would be recruiting someone to come to New York is good news for the Knicks.

Anthony will opt out of his contract at the end of the season and test free agency. He's said that he wants to retire as a Knick. But with New York's slow start, some have speculated that he could sign elsewhere next season.

Steve Smith, who coached both players at Virginia's Oak Hill Academy, told USA Today that Anthony was recruiting the point guard to play with him in New York.

"Whether he stays in Boston or not who knows. I know, talking to Melo, he's recruiting Rajon to come to New York," Smith said in the interview. "Melo thinks he'll come too. You never know about that stuff though. I think either way, Rajon will be fine."

Rondo's contract is up after next season. With the Celtics seemingly in rebuilding mode, there is speculation that they will trade their veteran star before they risk losing him in free agency.

Knicks 'unleashed': Perhaps the Brooklyn Nets created a monster.

The inspired Knicks, who crushed the Nets by 30 on Thursday in Brooklyn, continued to look like a juggernaut as they flattened the Orlando Magic by 38 on Friday.

“At some point it was going to get unleashed,” point guard Raymond Felton said when asked if the Nets unleashed something in the Knicks. “Brooklyn is just a team that got the first wrath of it. Everybody else is going to have to feel it later on, too. But one game at a time.”

The Knicks look like a completely different team than the one that had lost nine straight going into Brooklyn. Anthony said a big part of the reason why is that he has shot and scored less on purpose.

“I wanted to do something a little different to see if it worked,” Anthony said. “Me scoring 30 wasn’t working.”

Instead, Anthony, who's averaging 25.9 points and 9.9 rebounds this season, is deftly passing out of double-teams. He has shot a combined 14-of-22 and scored a total of 39 points in the past two wins. During the Knicks’ nine-game losing streak, he averaged 28.6 points while taking 23.2 shots a game.

The Knicks have been moving the ball, and they buried 16 of 27 3-pointers against the Nets, with six players scoring in double figures. Against Orlando, the Knicks went 17-of-34 from behind the arc and had seven players in double figures.

“I knew it was going to eventually happen,” Felton said of the Knicks’ offensive explosion. “I’m glad that it did. It was a good night to happen in Brooklyn, and then we came back tonight and showed that it wasn’t a fluke.

“We came out tonight to really prove that,” he added.
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Break up the Knicks!

The Knicks have gone from “laughingstock’’ to possibly a top contender in the rotten Atlantic Division in a space of two days. As coach Mike Woodson said before Friday night’s game: “It’s crazy.’’

The Knicks are clicking again. They posted their second straight blowout by 30-plus points, winning two straight games for the first time this season, and the first time since the first round of the playoffs last season against Boston.

They recovered from a lousy start to toast the Magic, 121-83, at the Garden, where they received a standing ovation in the closing seconds. The Knicks’ seven-game home losing streak at the Garden is over after not having won here since opening night on Oct. 30.

Iman Shumpert, who said before the game he was “pissed at the world,’’ made the highlight play. He took out his recent frustrations about trade speculation and losing on the Garden rim with a vicious, right-handed slam on former St. John’s star Mo Harkless late in the third quarter that put the Knicks ahead 79-63.

When asked after the victory what he’s mad at, Shumpert said “everything,’’ mentioning the media.

“The losing, I don’t like losing,’’ Shumpert added. “I felt like people were laughing at my team and I don’t like it.’’

The Knicks may have also benefitted from a color change. The orange alternate jerseys were originally placed in the Knicks lockers before the game but were later replaced by the standard home whites. The Knicks are 0-5 in orange, but a team spokesman said the orange jerseys are supposed to be worn just for weekend home games and a mistake had been made.

The Knicks, who broke their nine-game losing streak with a win in Brooklyn on Thursday, are now 5-13. Incredibly, they are just 2 ½ games out of first place in the Atlantic Division behind Boston, which visits the Garden for a Sunday noon matinee.

“We’re trying to win every game right now,’’ Shumpert said. “We know we dug ourselves a hole. Now we’re trying to dig ourselves out.’’

Carmelo Anthony notched his 10th double-double of the season, matching his total all of 2012-13. He finished with a super-efficient 20 points on 10 shots, grabbing 11 rebounds in 30 minutes to lead seven players in double figures.

In saying he’s trying something “a little different,’’ Anthony shot 6 of 10. It is only the second time in his career he has notched 20 while taking 10 or fewer shots. Anthony was 8 of 9 from the free-throw line.

“Everybody is just doing their job and having fun doing it once again,’’ said Anthony, who called the franchise “a laughingstock’’ Wednesday. “We got tired of losing. Whether we figured everything out in two games, that’s yet to come but we’ll take these two wins the way we’ve been winning these last two. Defensively, offensively, everybody is on the same page,’’

The Knicks finished 17 of 34 from the 3-point line for their second straight bang-up outing from downtown. Woodson said before the game the prior two practices leading into the game against the Nets were dedicated to 3-point shooting.

Have the Knicks turned it around for good?

“It’s still early,’’ said J.R. Smith, who scored 17 points with six rebounds. “We won two games in a row. We’re not going to get complacent yet. We’re still trying to get back to .500 and move on from there.’’

Woodson is already talking about repeating as division champs.

“It’s crazy,’’ Woodson said. “When you look at it, it really is [crazy]. Nobody’s tearing it up. We sit here … 2 ¹/₂ games out of first place. As coach, my job is to preach to our team, we still have chance to get another division title. We got to believe it. You look at some other divisions. They’re seven, eight, nine games out of first place. That’s an uphill climb.’’

Raymond Felton had a solid game and looks healthy once again. He scored 14 points with five a.ssists and four rebounds.

Metta World Peace capped the Knicks’ late third-quarter surge with a buzzer-beating short jumper after cutting into the lane, and the Knicks took a 20-point bulge, 89-69, into the fourth quarter — a lead that grew to as many as 41.

World Peace, out of the rotation the previous two games, was inserted because Amar’e Stoudemire elected not to attempt to play his first back-to-back of the season. World Peace scored 12 points.

“It’s back to playing like I knew we could play,’’ Woodson said. “[The bench] was huge. I can’t say this loud enough.’’

Orlando got off to a 15-5 start, with the sensational rookie point guard Victor Oladipo hitting two 3-pointers and blocking an Anthony layup attempt in the opening minutes. But after allowing Orlando to hit six of its first seven shots, the Knicks rallied and weren’t to be stopped.

“We’re just getting back to our old selves, running our opponent, getting stops,’’ Smith said.
 4 years ago '04        #10577
Born_Loser|M 99 heat pts99
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Brian Windhorst

NEW YORK -- In the middle of a letdown start to the season with a guaranteed dose of uncertainty to follow, there is one thing the New York Knicks can count on.

Carmelo Anthony is going to do what is best for Carmelo Anthony.

Not the team he's on, not the team he's planning to be on, but himself. He isn't the first player (and won't be the last) to look out for No. 1, but it's a clear principle to constantly keep in mind when examining Anthony's future.

This week, Anthony had to deny reports that he'd already decided he was going to leave the Knicks in free agency next summer. He said he's not even thinking about next summer.

There's no reason not to take Anthony at his word; he probably hasn't made up his mind. But also realize that at some point he is going to, and those choices will not be based on what he can do to help the Knicks a.ssemble a championship roster.

This is what Anthony does.

If the Knicks do not turn around their season when Tyson Chandler returns from injury, you can expect the Anthony issue to become a monster heading toward the February trade deadline. Because if Anthony doesn't think the Knicks are best for him over the next five years, he will make it an issue and possibly force a trade again if he thinks that would be best for him.

The Knicks, sources say, have zero intention of trading Anthony no matter what he says about next summer. Not only did owner Jim Dolan personally seal the deal to bring Anthony to New York, but the front office realizes it has one of the most talented players in the league and won't be able to get fair value in return.

Dolan's Knicks have never made rebuilding trades, and they're sure as heck not going to start with the biggest star they've had since Patrick Ewing. And there's no questioning Anthony is such a star. He was the engine for their 54-win season in 2012-13 and is the biggest reason Madison Square Garden keeps selling out despite huge ticket-price hikes. Give him this: From a monetary standpoint, Anthony is an excellent return on investment. But from a championship team standpoint, that is a different conversation, and it isn't one that will take place with Anthony and the Knicks anytime soon.

The only team that can offer Anthony a five-year max contract next summer is the Knicks. That gives them about a $30 million advantage. That is the team's best chip in the negotiation.

Anthony's history is simple; he does not leave money on the table. When Dwight Howard had the same choice last summer, he left the Los Angeles Lakers and took a four-year deal for less with the Houston Rockets because he felt they were a better team. As Howard put it: "I'm betting $30 million on it." Anthony has never been a betting man.

In 2006, when contemporaries LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh signed three-year contract extensions so they could be free agents in 2010, Anthony was unwilling to take the risk of leaving nearly $20 million in guaranteed money on the table. He took the full five-year maximum salary, thank you.

In 2011, when he was frustrated he hadn't been a free agent in 2010, Anthony demanded a trade from the Denver Nuggets and essentially demanded that the trade be to the Knicks. He could have easily waited until he became a free agent the following summer and signed with the Knicks, but he was concerned that potential changes in the new collective bargaining agreement might cost him money. There was the risk that by waiting until he became a free agent, Anthony might lose a few million in guaranteed money. He was not interested in that, and his agents did a good job of forcing the trade to get him what he wanted.

If you need to be reminded, the Knicks traded the bulk of their roster and a major chunk of their future flexibility to get Anthony in February 2011 instead of signing him outright in December after the lockout ended. Essentially, that's why they're stuck with Amar'e Stoudemire's contract now and why their draft pick this year is headed to Denver no matter where it falls.

Anthony did it so he could sign a contract extension under those more favorable terms with the Knicks immediately after the trade. For their willingness to break off half their roster to acquire Anthony, what did the Knicks get? Two extra years. That's it. And that time frame is nearing its end.

This season always promised to be intriguing for Anthony because he only promised the Knicks those two extra seasons. But instead of at least playing it out, Anthony announced in the preseason that he intends to opt out of his contract next summer no matter what. It wasn't helpful to the team, but that has never been Anthony's prerogative when it comes to the business aspect.

He knows that by maximizing what will probably be his last big contract, he will set himself up to be the NBA's highest-paid player once Kobe Bryant's newly minted deal expires in 2016. Anthony may not have the rings that his 2003 draft-class brethren have, but among them, he's gotten the biggest paychecks from his teams.

Bottom line on all of this: Don't expect Anthony to change his stripes. It has always been all personal business -- whether it's getting the Knicks to get rid of a player who cramps his style (read Jeremy Lin) or forcing a trade to best suit his earning potential, you can count on Anthony.

In a way, such transparency is refreshing.
 4 years ago '04        #10578
Born_Loser|M 99 heat pts99
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Looks like the rumors might be a reality... Raptors are working on a package that'll send Kyle Lowry to NYK
 4 years ago '08        #10579
AC_89 194 heat pts194
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So we gonna end up giving up another 1st round pick for this dude
 4 years ago '07        #10580
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we better not give up no one... I'd rather keep Felton, hold him out for a month, and let him get 110% healthy with that pinched nerve. We need to give Toure some spins like Jeremy Lin. What's the worst that can happen? We win some, lose some? Better than giving up another pick or Timmy Jr or Iman or Ron Ron
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