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 4 years ago '04        #10441
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TORONTO — Jeremy Tyler made his first road trip of preseason Monday, traveling to Canada, still in a walking boot, still hoping the Knicks wait for him to get out of it.

The 6-foot-10 Tyler was a sensation in the Las Vegas summer league, and afterward signed a contract that contains only a small guarantee. The 22-year-old then underwent surgery on a stress fracture in his right foot in early September to make him unavailable for training camp.

Now the question is whether the Knicks, desperate for a big man off the bench when the season opens, release him when the preseason is over. Or will they bet on his potential, even if the foot could remain a question mark?

The competent but unspectacular play of the three big men the Knicks invited to camp on non-guaranteed deals – center Cole Aldrich and forwards Josh Powell and Ike Diogu – certainly enhances Tyler’s chances of sticking.

Aldrich was a DNP on Monday night in a double-overtime game in Toronto. Diogu made a defensive blunder in the final seconds of regulation to force overtime, though he has been most impressive of the trio with his high motor.

But he doesn’t have the size or gifts of Tyler, who jumped from high school to play professionally in Israel and Japan before being drafted in the second round in 2011.

“My hopes are high,’’ Tyler told The Post in his first interview of camp. “It would be great if they did. Certain circumstances, I totally understand. I’m not expecting it. I’m just here to work every day.’’

If Tyler were healthy, the Aldrich-Powell-Diogu battle would be of little consequence. Add the uncertain situations of Amar’e Stoudemire and Kenyon Martin for the start of the season and the Knicks need a big body defensively to spell Tyson Chandler.

The way he dominated in summer league with his active play, Tyler, if healthy, would have fit in seamlessly in preseason.

“I wouldn’t call it frustrating,’’ Tyler said. “I definitely am getting a complete concept of the game. Like every kid, I want to play, but out of every negative you find a positive. It’s teaching me patience, teaching me a new view of the game and really understanding the game. And when the time is right, you unleash everything you’ve been holding.’’

When will that be? Tyler still doesn’t know exactly. His initial timetable would have him back around mid-November.

“It’s kind of early, hopefully a few weeks, but there’s no set date,’’ Tyler said. “The foot is getting stronger. I’m really focusing on a lot of different parts of my body, not trying to rush it and focus on my mental.’’

The Knicks have not told Tyler definitively if he will remain on the roster, but he said he’s gotten good vibes.

“Not officially, but I keep showing up, showing commitment to getting better,’’ Tyler said. “They haven’t told me anything official. If I keep working, things will work out.’’

Knicks president Steve Mills identified backup center as the lone need on the club.

“The opportunity is there,’’ Tyler said. “I just have to work and f!ght for it.’’
 4 years ago '04        #10442
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Reggie Miller understands why Carmelo Anthony wants to opt out of his contract next summer to become a free agent.

But the former Indiana sharpshooter, who spent his entire career with the Pacers, also warns Melo of what could potentially happen if he leaves the Knicks for a perceived championship contender.

"Everyone wants to be wooed and go through that process," Miller, now a TNT analyst, said Tuesday on a conference call. "What I would say to Carmelo is, 'be careful what you ask for.’ We saw what happened with LeBron (James). Right now you play in the No. 1 media market in the world in terms of professional basketball. What better place to be successful and try to win a championship than in New York.

"It would be hard to imagine him leaving there," Miller continued. "The grass isn’t always greener. The grass was greener for LeBron and he’s won back-to-back (titles), but what he went through to get there was such a firestorm.”

Anthony can opt out of his contract and re-sign with the Knicks for a five-year deal worth $129.1 million. If he were to sign a max deal with another team, Anthony could earn $95.9 million over four years, according to ESPN salary-cap expert Larry ****.

Winning will certainly be important to Anthony. Miller, though, believes the Knicks will likely be the "fifth-best team in the Eastern Conference."

"I think they’ll be a better team defensively bringing in Metta (World Peace)," Miller said. "If you listen to Mike Woodson, the Knicks took a step back defensively last season, and adding Metta will help toughness-wise and defensively. That’s where this team is going to have to win anywhere from five-to-10 ballgames. ... Can they do that for an entire season? That remains to be seen.

"It would be great if they could get to that fourth spot, between them and Brooklyn, to get that home court advantage in the playoffs," Miller added. "I never want to count out a proven scorer like Carmelo Anthony. Scoring won’t be an issue, but you’ve got to be able to have a flow in your offense. But right now the flow isn’t there offensively for the Knicks.”
 4 years ago '04        #10443
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"...Scoring won’t be an issue, but you’ve got to be able to have a flow in your offense. But right now the flow isn’t there offensively for the Knicks.”



yeah, reggie the preseason scoring flow where we played more of the guys who are either new or f!ghting for a roster spot represents the entire team's offensive flow....stfu
 4 years ago '04        #10444
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Amar'e Stoudemire talked science after first scrimmage on decision to ban him from back-to-back games this season.

Speaking from Humber College in the Toronto outskirts, Stoudemire said of the medical staff's decision, “From a scientific standpoint, a day of recovery makes a world of difference. NBA players don’t get a lot of recovery time and injuries do occur. We’re taking a scientific method of recovery time, to sit out back-to-backs to get recovery time and be strong for the following game.’’ Woodson said K-Mart, also being limited in back-to-backs, could play one night, and Stoudemire the next in a rotating back-to-back system. Stoudemire is expected to have a minutes cap of about 20ish to save his knees. J.R. Smith, meanwhile, said he won’t have any limits on him when he starts his comeback - likely for Game 6. “No minutes restriction,’’ Smith said after his first scrimmage. “I’m coming back out to be at full strength, a full head of steam with no restrictions. If I’m on restrictions, I’m not at the best ability to help the team.’’
 4 years ago '04        #10445
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according to Woody, Stat & K-Mart won't play in the finale but Smitty will
 4 years ago '04        #10446
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TORONTO — Carmelo Anthony got a good chuckle at tough guy Tyler Hansbrough’s meek reaction Monday night when he realized which character he was jostling against. And Anthony commended his new teammate, Metta World Peace, for still having the juice at age 33 to play the part of enforcer and not losing his head.

On a play that became a video hit on the web, Hansbrough got rough during a scramble underneath getting entangled with World Peace.

When World Peace followed Hansbrough out of the scramble, the former UNC star turned, realized it was the former Ron Artest and patted him on the stomach, saying, “My bad. My bad.’’

When asked if he saw the play, Anthony laughed.

“I was standing right there,” Anthony said. “I had front-row, courtside seats. I saw Tyler’s apology. It was all good.”

That element will be welcomed on the Knicks, said Anthony. Former Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald just may have built the nastiest team in the league with World Peace, J.R. Smith, Kenyon Martin, Tyson Chandler and even Iman Shumpert.

“We like that over here in New York,’’ Anthony said. “I haven’t seen that from Ron in a long time. Good to see he still has that. It’s also good to see how controlled he is and he can control himself.”

World Peace learned Hansbrough took abuse on the web for backing down and came to his defense via several tweets: “Tyler Hansbrough is a tough kid. Stop being silly people!!! He is going to be a champ one day. Keep being tough Tyler!! … f!ghting doesn’t make u tough. Win n’ does.’’

Meanwhile, Anthony said he is thrilled to be going against the physical defense of World Peace in practice every day.

“I love it, I love it,’’ Anthony said. “He’s pushing me, physically pushing me on the defensive end. With him guarding me, I don’t want to see people beat up in practice but the way he plays very physical, it helps me. It makes the game that much easier when I come into a basketball game.’’

Woodson all but said he expects to keep injured summer-league sensation, 6-foot-10 big man Jeremy Tyler, on the roster.

Woodson said he won’t know for sure until roster meetings that will occur Friday with new general manager Steve Mills, the scouts, and owner James Dolan.

“We got to nurse him back and develop him and see if he can help us,’’ Woodson said. “We were high on him. Unfortunately he broke his foot. We owe him that. We got to do that. We got to wait and see.’’

Keeping Tyler would leave only two open spots with one likely being taken by guard Tour’e Murry. The other is a battle between the three big men with non-guaranteed deals — Cole Aldrich, Josh Powell and Ike Diogu, who has played the most ruggedly. (C.J. Leslie and Chris Smith appear longshots after so-so camps). Tyler, who had foot surgery in early September, is still in a walking boot but has a partially guaranteed contract. Tyler said he isn’t ready for action for “a few weeks.

“My hopes are high,’’ Tyler told The Post. “It would be great if they did. Certain circumstances, I totally understand. I’m not expecting it. I’m just here to work every day.’’
 4 years ago '04        #10447
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GREEN BAY, Wis. — Knicks coach Mike Woodson said point guard Chris Smith is “still in the mix’” for a roster spot, noting for the first time having older brother J.R. Smith on the team is a factor in the franchise wanting to develop the younger Smith as an NBA prospect.

Chris, who played at Louisville before tearing up his knee at training camp last October, said if he nabs one of the Knicks’ 15 roster spots, he likely will spend much of the season with the D-League affiliate in Erie.

Asked directly if J.R.’s presence factors in the decision on whether to keep Chris, Woodson said, “Sure it does.”

“I look at him just like I look at J.R., though J.R. is the guy who played in a uniform and has been very productive for us. I have a great deal of respect for that family,” Woodson said. “That’s his brother. I respect that. We got to make some decisions. What those decisions will be, I don’t know.’’

Woodson said the Knicks likely will make their first cuts Thursday night after practice. A meeting is scheduled with the coaching staff, scouts, new president/GM Steve Mills and owner James Dolan, who believes in making the superagency CAA happy because it’s good for the franchise in the long run.

Last spring, Chris Smith fired his agent, Marc Cornstein, in favor of CAA’s Leon Rose, who represents J.R. Smith and Carmelo Anthony. The Post reported the maneuver was seen by some in the league as “a package deal’’ as J.R. entered free agency.

Chris Smith’s chances of staying increased when rookie C.J. Leslie struggled this preseason. The Knicks still may cut Smith and he can choose to join their D-League affiliate as a free agent.

Smith has a unique non-guaranteed deal: If he is on the roster on opening night, the contract becomes fully guaranteed. Standard minimum deals do not become guaranteed until early January.

“He’s still in the mix,’’ Woodson said. “That’s something else we have to sit and talk about tomorrow in terms of the direction we want to go.’’

Smith was a DNP in Monday’s preseason game in Toronto, which seemed to suggest his roster bid was finished.

“Right now, it’s still up in the air,’’ Smith said. “I’m just competing for a spot. I’ve shown my work ethic and pretty much an ability to come back from injuries.’’

If Smith sticks, the Knicks still likely would keep combo guard Tour’e Murry, who clearly has outplayed J.R.’s brother in training camp. The Knicks then would have to cut all three big men they invited to camp on non-guaranteed deals: Ike Diogu, Josh Powell and Cole Aldrich.

Woodson reiterated he is leaning toward waiting on Jeremy Tyler, who rehabbing from a foot surgery and who may not be available until late November. The 6-foot-10 forward made a splash in the Las Vegas summer league.

“He’s still patiently going through rehab,’’ Woodson said. “I don’t think we kick him to the curb. We thought so much coming out of summer league. I think at least see it through, see what he has to offer. He’s a young big. Our thought process was to try to develop him.’’

The Knicks had hoped Aldrich adjusted to the Knicks’ style better than he has in their search for a backup center. He was a DNP on Monday, but he will get one final look Wednesday night against the Bucks in Green Bay. Woodson said Aldrich would play 20-plus minutes.

Woodson said none of the big-men invites have played with enough quickness on the pick-and-roll.

“You got play it with pace, hit screens, get off of it and roll,’’ Woodson said. “Tyson’s the only guy, and Amar’e and Kenyon, that shows pace. When they hit screens, they’re off of it and making something happen at the rim. These guys are new. We’re yelling and screaming pace.’’

Mills is in a unique situation. He wasn’t involved in putting together any component of the roster.

“We’ll all sit down and give our opinions, and we’ll come up with the right decision,’’ Woodson said. “It’s got to be a group decision. Steve will announce it, but he’ll hear my voice as well as the scouts and everyone involved and Mr. Dolan.’’

Since taking over for Glen Grunwald four days before training camp, Mills has not missed a practice or game, which is not uncommon for preseason evaluations. But Mills also has sat in on every coach’s meeting.

“It’s OK — learn about your product,’’ Woodson said. “Learn about what’s going on inside your organization. Come to practice and skull sessions. I don’t have [anything] to hide. I think it’s OK if Steve wants to hang around and watch what’s going on. I think it’s healthy.’’

***

Woodson said Stoudemire and Martin came out of the first scrimmage Tuesday feeling good. They will scrimmage again Thursday. Woodson wouldn’t rule out Stoudemire and Martin playing the preseason finale Friday, but said Tuesday it was unlikely. Smith is a go for Friday.

Some Knicks took a tour of Lambeau Field on Tuesday night in the franchise’s first-ever trip to Green Bay. Resch Arena, where Wednesday’s game will be played, is across the street from the famed home of the NFL’s Packers.
 4 years ago '04        #10448
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Jared Jeffries sitting baseline as new director of personnel for Nuggets. #Knicks offered him a scouting job.
 4 years ago '04        #10449
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GREEN BAY, Wis. — Because Mike Woodson is not thrilled with how the big men invited to camp has fit into his system, the Knicks coach reiterated injured 6-foot-10 Jeremy Tyler is expected to land a roster spot.

“He’s still patiently going through rehab,’’ Woodson said. “I don’t think we kick him to the curb. We thought so much [of him] coming out of summer league. I think at least we see it through and see what he has to offer. He’s a young big. Our thought process was to try to develop him.’’

Meanwhile, the Knicks had hoped center Cole Aldrich would have adjusted to the team’s style better. That would have prompted the Knicks to waive Tyler, who is in a walking boot after undergoing foot surgery in early September. He may not be back until late November.

Aldrich hasn’t been impressive enough as the Knicks’ search for a backup center is in flux.

Interestingly, ex-Knick Jared Jeffries was on hand in his new role as personnel director with the Nuggets and had dinner at the arena with Knicks president/general manager Steve Mills. Denver reportedly is shopping power forward Kenneth Faried, who would be an incredible fit.

Aldrich did not play in Toronto Monday, but Woodson promised he would play Wednesday night at Green Bay’s Resch Center. The former Kansas standout logged 18 minutes, finishing with zero points and eight rebounds in the Knicks’ 105-95 loss to the Bucks, as they fell to 2-4.

Woodson has been disappointed with the trio of bigs, Aldrich, Ike Diogu and Josh Powell.

“I’m looking at pace and how we want our bigs to play when we play our pick-and-roll basketball,’’ Woodson said. “You got play it with pace, hit screens, get off of it and roll. [Tyson Chandler is] the only guy — and Amar’e [Stoudemire] and Kenyon [Martin] — that show pace. When they hit screens, they’re off of it and making something happen at the rim. These guys are new. We’re yelling and screaming ‘pace.’ ’’

***

Carmelo Anthony played 37 minutes, finished with 22 points on 8-of- 23 shooting with nine rebounds and seven a.ssists. He also picked up a technical foul for harassing a referee after a travel call.

***

About 25 Packers players were on hand, including Aaron Rodgers and Rockville Centre native Greg Van Roten, who wore a blue Patrick Ewing jersey. The Chaminade grad gave the Knicks staffers, Tim Hardaway Jr. and Aldrich a tour of Lambeau Field Tuesday night.

***

Woodson said Stoudemire and Martin came out of the first scrimmage Tuesday feeling good. They will scrimmage again Thursday. Woodson wouldn’t rule out Stoudemire and Martin playing the preseason finale Friday versus Charlotte at the reopened Garden.

“They both felt good today,’’ Woodson said. “There wasn’t a setback. That’s been positive. [Thursday] we’ll do a tough practice and scrimmage. We’ll see how they feel Friday.’’

***

J.R. Smith was said to have drawn interest from Milwaukee during free agency, but Bucks new coach Larry Drew denied it.

“Not to my knowledge,’’ Drew said. “There could’ve been some interest before I took the job, but his name didn’t come up.’’

****

The Knicks face the Bucks for real next week — Oct. 30 in the season opener at MSG.
 4 years ago '05        #10450
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I heard Chris smith made the roster




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 4 years ago '04        #10451
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 s1eepyboy said:
I heard Chris smith made the roster
just a rumor for now but god help us if he eventually does, he needs the most help
 4 years ago '04        #10452
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Chris Smith made the roster
 4 years ago '04        #10453
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NEW YORK, October 25, 2013 – New York Knickerbockers President and General Manager Steve Mills announced today that the team has waived forwards Ike Diogu, C.J. Leslie, Josh Powell and Jeremy Tyler and guard Chris Douglas-Roberts.

Diogu, 6-8, 255-pounds, averaged 7.2 points, on 56.7-percent shooting, and 4.0 rebounds over 16.2 minutes in six preseason games after signing as a free agent on Sep. 27.

Leslie, 6-9, 210-pounds, recorded 12 points and seven rebounds over 36 minutes in five preseason games after signing as an undrafted free agent on Jul. 8.

Powell, 6-9, 240-pounds, averaged 3.0 points, 2.8 rebounds and 18.6 minutes in five preseason games after signing as a free agent on Sep. 30.

Tyler, 6-10, 250-pounds, signed as a free agent on Aug. 6, but did not appeared in the preseason due to injury.

Douglas-Roberts, 6-7, 210-pounds, recorded seven points and three a.ssists over 24 minutes in two preseason games after signing as a free agent on Oct. 2.
 4 years ago '11        #10454
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Aldrich & Murry made it atleast
 4 years ago '04        #10455
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Oh, brother.

The Knicks retained J.R. Smith’s brother Chris Smith on their 15-man roster, but in a surprise, released injured 6-foot-10 forward Jeremy Tyler.

Tyler had foot surgery in early September, and is not expected back until late November — at the earliest. Despite Mike Woodson’s sentiments, he was waived Friday along with four other players.

On Wednesday in Green Bay, Wis., Woodson said “respect” for J.R. Smith would be a factor in weighing whether to keep Chris Smith, who played just 20 minutes during the preseason. Also this week, Woodson indicated Tyler was a keeper, saying at one point he did not think the Knicks would “kick him to the curb.”

Center Cole Aldrich, a former lottery pick, survived the cut despite an up-and-down preseason, as did combo guard Toure’ Murry, who had a brilliant preseason.

In addition to Tyler, the Knicks cut forwards Ike Diogu and Josh Powell, disappointing undrafted rookie C.J. Leslie and ex-Nets swingman Chris Douglas-Roberts.

Tyler’s agent, John Baker, said he hopes Tyler will rehab his foot at the Knicks’ facilities and remain in play to rejoin the roster. Tyler would not be allowed to work out with the team and could sign with another team at any time. Chris Smith rehabbed with the Knicks last season after tearing his patella tendon and being cut.

Smith is expected to spend much of the season getting playing time in the D-League. When Tyler is healthy enough to return, the Knicks could choose to cut Aldrich or Chris Smith, whose $470,000 contract becomes guaranteed on opening night. When Smith hired his brother’s agent, CAA’s Leon Rose, in the spring, The Post reported the brothers’ free agency was seen in some league circles as a “package deal.”
 4 years ago '07        #10456
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Jesus... lets just cut him after opening night and resign Tyler after he passes thru waivers... sigh... I guess it could be worse. At least we got to keep Toure
 4 years ago '04        #10457
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 I Am The Truth said:
Jesus... lets just cut him after opening night and resign Tyler after he passes thru waivers... sigh... I guess it could be worse. At least we got to keep Toure
Tyler is hoping he can be in a similar situation as Chris was last season where the team still kept him around and put him in the D-League and sh*t but another team owns his d-league rights, shall see what happens with that
 4 years ago '04        #10458
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hardaway better not chuck up 30 3's tonight that sh*t was sad the other day
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Amar’e Stoudemire and J.R. Smith were back, full of hope, and the Knicks were back at a newly transformed Garden ,full of glitter.

But the preseason ended on a dampening note as Carmelo Anthony missed a final, potential game-tying shot in the last ticks and the Knicks, who blew a 19-point first-half lead, lost to the Bobcats, 85-83. They went stone-cold in the second half, scoring just 28 points and finished 2-5 on the preseason.

Anthony finished a woeful 4 of 17 for 13 points. In his Garden debut as a Knick, Andrea Bargnani was a listless 2 of 10 and struggled on defense.

“I wasn’t in a good rhythm all night,’’ Anthony said. “I missed it. I’ll take it again. That was the play — try to get the ball up top and find an open spot and hopefully the ball goes in.’’

But it didn’t, and the Knicks have four days off to prepare for their season opener against the Bucks at the Garden on Wednesday.

The good news is Stoudemire and Smith looked fine in their limited preseason debuts coming off knee surgeries. Kenyon Martin also made his preseason debut after resting his chronic ankle issue.

Stoudemire was 3 of 4 from the field and finished with six points in 12 minutes, scoring all of his buckets on powerful low-post moves he learned from Hakeem Olajuwon in the summer of 2012.

“It’s a great feeling to be out there,” he said. “My total body is much stronger than it was.’’

Stoudemire’s scheduled stint with Olajuwon this past summer was dashed when he had minor knee surgery in July and the team chose to shut him down until training camp. Nevertheless, he looked sharp.

“I was very impressed with what Amar’e was able to do on the court,’’ Anthony said. “It was good to see them guys healthy. Our health is always a big key to our success. Those three will be big piece to the puzzle.’’

Smith’s highlight came when he sank a 35-footer at the third-quarter buzzer just past halfcourt and windmilled his right arm. Smith scored 11 points in 12:56 — on a minutes restriction.

“I wanted to play more minutes,’’ Smith said. “Unfortunately I couldn’t. I was on restrictions. They told me they’d play me 10, 15 minutes. It was hard to comprehend. It’s telling the pitbull not to bite the burger.’’

Anthony played for 34:22 and his shooting declined as the preseason wore on. He shot just 36 of 96 in the preseason.

Before his last-second miss from the left of the key off an inbounds pass, Anthony missed a final-minute baseline fadeaway. On the next possession, Iman Shumpert was in and out on a corner 3-pointer after Bargnani passed up shooting an open look with 28 seconds remaining.

Before his last-second miss from the left of the key off an inbounds, Anthony missed a final-minute baseline fadeaway. On the next possession, Iman Shumpert was in and out on a corner 3-pointer after Bargnani passed up shooting an open look with 28 seconds remaining.

“I thought we played in spurts,’’ Woodson said. “You’re up 19 and you get comfortable and relaxed and not play the way you got the 19-point lead.’’

Because of the frequent road trips to places such as Providence, R.I., Manchester, N.H., and Green Bay, Wis., Anthony said the preseason was disjointed.

“It was different,’’ Anthony said. “We’ve been on the road this whole preseason. To finally be on our homecourt and have just one preseason game, believe it or not, it was tough for us. Throughout the whole preseason, we had only five days here. We never had chance to adjust here. But that’s over now. The real deal starts and this new journey begins.’’

Unfortunately for the Knicks, the journey starts without Smith, who will start serving his five-game marijuana suspension, and without any momentum after blowing a 19-point lead to lowly Charlotte.
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MSG from 2-4

Melo, Smitty, Chandler & Iman will be there and signing autographs to the first 150 ppl who buy the new orange jersey
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