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 5 years ago '04        #10421
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Ian Begley

GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- There were probably plenty of reasons why Carmelo Anthony wanted to play for the New York Knicks back in 2011.

Money, marketing, the opportunity to be the face of a franchise in a major city -- they all likely played a role.

But so did Amar'e Stoudemire.

Anthony says that the chance to play with Stoudemire was "one of the reasons I wanted to come to New York."

So it's difficult for Anthony to watch Stoudemire struggle with another knee injury.

"As a friend, it's hard for me to sit back and act like it doesn't bother me because I know how hard of a worker he is [and] I know the time that he puts in the gym to train and rehab," Anthony said Tuesday. "To see him go forward and then take some steps back every time, it's just sad."

Stoudemire will miss at least the Knicks' first three preseason games as he works his way through another knee ailment. The 11-year veteran is working his way back from a knee procedure over the summer -- his third in the last 12 months.

"I'm still getting stronger, still getting the legs strong enough to withstand the pressure of playing, but progress has been great so far," Stoudemire said.

The six-time All-Star was limited to just 29 regular season games last year thanks to two separate knee procedures. He also had microfracture surgery in 2005.

Anthony sometimes wonders if he'll ever get to play with Stoudemire when he's 100 percent healthy.

"Yeah, I think about it. I think about sometimes," he said Tuesday. "He was one of the reasons why I wanted to come to New York. So for me not to have that chance, the opportunity to get a full season in and get a rhythm going with him -- it's not something I thought would happen."

Critics have continually questioned whether Anthony and Stoudemire are a good pairing. Both players like to operate in similar spaces on the floor, and seem to hinder one another at times.

The Knicks are 45-44 in the regular season in games in which both Anthony and Stoudemire share the floor.

They are 2-11 in the postseason when Stoudemire and Anthony are on the floor together, though the Knicks' 1-2 mark last season is a bit misleading because Stoudemire was playing limited minutes.

Recent statistics aside, Stoudemire still believes he and Anthony can play well alongside one another.

He's also proud of the improvements the Knicks have made during his tenure.

"Since I've been in New York, we've made great progress for the organization. We are a team to watch. We have more TV games now than we had before. But on top of that we've been to the postseason every single year," Stoudemire said. "And that was a part of my goal of coming here: to build something that will allow us to improve. Unfortunately injuries played a factor after I was here that first year. But I do envision myself getting healthy and being able to dominate as I once did before."

When he was healthy, Stoudemire played well for New York last year.

He averaged 14 points and five rebounds in 23 minutes per game.

Anthony hopes that Stoudemire can do the same for the Knicks this season.

"It's another weapon that we need," Anthony said. "We could have used him last season at certain points. For him to get a fresh start off of this season, we need him. He's a big key to this team's success."

Anthony just hopes that Stoudemire can return to the floor at 100 percent health this time around.

"Because one day he's here with us and another day he's back rehabbing and training and trying to get right," Anthony said. "I think for him, I'd rather see him get back all the way right."
 5 years ago '08        #10422
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After this year 1 more yr until that contract is up
 5 years ago '05        #10423
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THJ got crossssssssssssssssssssed by Fields b. CRAZY


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 5 years ago '10        #10424
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Didn't know if you wanted to see so many words because it's a long read so I'll just leave the link. Zach really gave us that work, fantastic writer as usual (best sports writer today IMO).
 5 years ago '04        #10425
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Ian Begley

New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony knows that he took a "huge risk" when he decided not to have surgery to repair a tear in his left shoulder and focused on rehabbing it instead.

But so far, he's "ecstatic" with the results.

Anthony admitted Saturday night that he played with a torn rotator cuff and partially torn labrum in his left shoulder late last season.

The injury hampered him in the final games of the regular season and in the playoffs.

Instead of going under the knife to fix his shoulder, Anthony opted in the offseason to try and fix the injury through an intensive rehab.

He's satisfied with current outcome.

"I'm ecstatic going from a torn rotator cuff and torn labrum to not needing surgery," Anthony told reporters in Manchester, N.H., on Saturday. "Let me take that back: taking a risk in not taking surgery and letting it heal on its own. I took a huge risk in doing that. It meant I had to put more time in the offseason to do what I had to do to get it right."

If he'd opted to have surgery, doctors told Anthony he would have missed the beginning of the season.

"I would have been out four, five months because of the severity of the tear," he said.

There's an inherent risk, of course, in deciding against surgery. Anthony's shoulder, presumably, is more susceptible to damage if he gets hit repeatedly this season. If he opted for surgery, his shoulder would have been 100 percent healthy when he hit the floor.

Anthony originally suffered the injury against the Indiana Pacers on April 14 in a collision near the basket. The injury was exacerbated in the Knicks' first-round series against Boston when Kevin Garnett yanked on his shoulder.

"I was a little naïve," Anthony said. "I kind of felt it was torn or something like that when it first happened. Once it happened, I knew something was wrong with it."

Anthony played through considerable discomfort in the postseason, and his shooting seemed to be affected.

He shot 40.9 percent from the floor in 12 postseason games after shooting 45 percent during the regular season.

"It was all types of stuff going on in there," Anthony said. "It was messed up."

Anthony never complained about the injury, nor did he use it as an excuse during the postseason -- though he admitted after the series was over that the injury affected him on the floor.

Early in the offseason, Anthony huddled with the Knicks medical staff to determine the next course of action.

"Everybody has their opinion and brought it to the table, everybody had their pros and cons," Anthony said. "[Surgery] was the last resort."

The Knicks may take precaution with Anthony this season. Coach Mike Woodson seems to be leaning toward playing Anthony more at small forward. This move could limit the contact Anthony endures because he would guard the opposing small forward rather than banging with the power forward.
 5 years ago '04        #10426
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Ian Begley

GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- Mike Woodson hinted that Amar'e Stoudemire may not be allowed to play more than 20 minutes per game this season.

"We've just got to figure out if it's going to be 10 minutes, 15, 20. We won't know at this point until he's back on the floor and seeing how things are going," Woodson said Tuesday.

Stoudemire averaged 23.5 minutes per game last season, when he was limited to 30 minutes per game by the team's medical staff. The minutes limit proved prudent because Stoudemire needed a second knee surgery in March after he experienced soreness following a four-games-in-five nights stretch.

In two of those games, the 30-year-old Stoudemire played more than 30 minutes.

Stoudemire will likely be on a stricter minutes count this year.

"I thought we were really doing a pretty good job managing his minutes last season," Woodson said. "And they were, I thought, positive minutes in terms of helping us win basketball games when he was in there."

Stoudemire put up strong numbers when healthy last year, averaging 14.3 points and five rebounds in 29 regular season games. But as ESPN.com's Tom Haberstroh points out in his Knicks season preview, New York won 55.2 percent of its games with Stoudemire seeing action and 70.4 percent of its games without him.

Just how much the Knicks can get out of Stoudemire this season remains to be seen. He has missed the first three preseason games.

No one is sure if he will be ready for the season opener on Oct. 30. The 11-year veteran underwent an offseason knee procedure over the summer (his third in the past 12 months) so the Knicks are being cautious with him. Stoudemire's been running on the court but has yet to scrimmage with his teammates.
 5 years ago '04        #10427
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Berman

BALTIMORE – Metta World Peace didn’t make the trip with a sprained left ankle and Iman Shumpert wished he hadn’t.

Shumpert left the game for good Thursday night with a sprained right elbow suffered early in the first quarter. His arm got entangled with Washington’s Bradley Beal driving, bending in a bad way. He motioned toward the bench and was replaced immediately, heading to the locker room. He emerged with his elbow in an ice bag and afterward had it wrapped.

Shumpert, who injured his shoulder earlier in camp, will be reevaluated Friday by team doctors.

“One of them things, we’ll see how it is [Friday. Hopefully it won’t swell up,’’ Shumpert said. “It was a nerve I hit. You hit the nerve, it tingles like that.’’

It hasn’t been determined if he will go for an MRI exam or if he will miss the next road trip to Toronto and Green Bay, Wis.

World Peace took a tumble during Wednesday’s scrimmage and limped off the court to the locker room. The Knicks said it was not serious, but it was serious enough for him to miss the trip.

“We just rested him,’’ Coach Mike Woodson said. “He stayed behind for treatment.’’

Carmelo Anthony made his homecoming return to Baltimore a successful one by dumping 22 points on the Wizards in a 98-89 preseason victory at a sold-out Baltimore Arena in front of 12,376 fans including his mother, Mary. Anthony shot 8-of-17 with four a.ssists.

It was the Wizards’ first game in Baltimore since 1999 as the franchise celebrated the 50th anniversary of the Baltimore Bullets’ birth, but Anthony stole the show, getting cheered heavily on every basket after receiving a nice ovation during pregame introductions.

“It felt like a home crowd, felt more like a charity game, with the way the crowd was,’’ Anthony said. Wednesday night, he was at the recreational center named after him in East Baltimore that he funded with a $1.5 million donation. .

PG Pablo Prigioni hyperextended his elbow in the third quarter and didn’t return. … Andrea Bargnani added 13 points on 4-of-7 shooting, and was a perfect 4-for-4 from the line. … Woodson sounded as if combo guard Tour’e Murry has locked up a roster spot after he scored 14 points on 5-of-7 shooting for his second straight bonanza game. Murry likely will take the spot that was supposed to go to disappointing rookie C.J. Leslie, who did not play. … Ike Diogu also increased his chances for the last big-man spot with a second straight powerful game (10 points, eight rebounds) while center Cole Aldrich was benched in the second half.
 5 years ago '04        #10428
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Berman

BALTIMORE — Carmelo Anthony clarified that just because he wants to experience free agency this summer, it does not mean he wants to bolt New York.

“I don’t want to go anywhere,’’ Anthony said Thursday before scoring 22 points in a 98-89 preseason victory over the Wizards at Baltimore Arena in his return to his hometown.

However, he gave hints if there was another team to consider, the Lakers would be the franchise.

Speaking after the morning shootaround at Baltimore Arena in his return to his hometown, Anthony said of the Lakers chatter, “What other team would they say? I don’t think they’d say another team. That’s the only team they’d possibly say.’’

Then he quickly added, “I’m in New York. This is not something I want to keep going on. At the end of day, I don’t want to go anywhere. But when that time comes, I’ll deal with that situation.’’

Knicks coach Mike Woodson said Anthony has to concentrate on this season and not his free agency.

“If he is going to test it, he’s got to test it,” Woodson said. “But at this point, he’s got to worry about this season and this season only. That’s what’s staring him in the face today.’’

In essence, Anthony didn’t back down from comments he said he made on Sept. 11 he wants the free-agent experience next July. It would be the first time in his career he would be a free agent.

The Lakers will have massive cap space, however they may not have enough to offer max deals to both Melo and LeBron James, who has an opt-out, too.

Anthony can opt out of his contract after the season and made it clear he has no interest in signing a contract extension in February when the Knicks can offer one. Anthony was quoted in the New York Observer Wednesday he “wants to be a free agent,’’ adding he would like a chance to “evaluate.’’ Translation: He wouldn’t mind being wined and dined by the Lakers in Los Angeles.

“This is something when that time comes, I’ll definitely explore,’’ Anthony said. “Does that mean I’m not coming back to New York? Not at all. But it’s definitely an opportunity I’m willing to explore and experience. That not whatsoever means I’m not coming back to New York or I don’t want to be in New York. I don’t want anyone to get that impression of what that story was. That question came different than what everyone is reading.’’

Indeed, it seems Anthony is heavily leaning toward staying with the Knicks, but if they take a severe step back this season, all bets are off. Woodson himself said he realizes the allure of the Lakers.

“The Lakers franchise is totally different from any other franchise — them and the Celtics based on history and what they’ve done,’’ Woodson said. “Hell, if I was a Laker, I don’t know if I’d ever left the Lakers because of what they’ve done over the years, but it has changed. Players are always looking for something better — just a sign of the times. It’s different.’’

Woodson can’t imagine Anthony saying goodbye to the Big Apple, though.

“If you ask me, absolutely [he’ll stay],’’ Woodson said. “ I don’t see him leaving. That’s my thought. Got to keep him in a Knick uniform.’’

The Knicks can pay Anthony about $33 million more on a long-term deal than the Lakers and other clubs under collective bargaining agreement rules. The Knicks are the only club that can offer him a five-year deal, worth approximately $129 million. Other clubs can only go four years.

Anthony said his comments were the result of never having been a free agent. He forced a sign-and-extend trade out of Denver in February 2011 before reaching free agency.

“It came from going through that experience of never having that before,’’ Anthony said. “As a player guys would like to explore that. Guys would like to have that situation to see what it’s about. Me leaving never came across my mind. But it’s an experience I want to experience.’’

Anthony admitted some regret he didn’t restructure past contracts to have him become a free agent during the 2010 bonanza when James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh hooked up in Miami. They all can opt out again this summer. Anthony preferred not to go into the 2011 lockout as a free agent because of all of the uncertainty.

“That time has past now,’’ Anthony said. “When that time came before, I wasn’t up to date on the situation on the CBA. The guys that did become free agents at that time [in 2010], they joke when I see them. ‘Remember that time when we told you to take a three-year deal and not five-year deal?’ For the most part, I’m not thinking about leaving. It’s just something I want to experience.’’
 5 years ago '04        #10429
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Amar'e has been cleared so his prediction to play in the opener wasn't bullsh*t, legit chance now.
 5 years ago '05        #10430
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 Born_Loser said:
Amar'e has been cleared so his prediction to play in the opener wasn't bullsh*t, legit chance now.
Nice. 2 more years of his contract + resign of melo and cap spaaaaaace. Can't wait

On another note, I don't see the pacers being as good as they were last year...not that it matters but that's just me. I know they'll be in the playoffs tho of course




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 5 years ago '07        #10431
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 s1eepyboy said:
Nice. 2 more years of his contract + resign of melo and cap spaaaaaace. Can't wait

On another note, I don't see the pacers being as good as they were last year...not that it matters but that's just me. I know they'll be in the playoffs tho of course
I agree... something tells me that they won't be as effective... something about CJ Watson's tendencies to disappear in the playoffs and Granger taking away shots from Lance & PG has me thinking that they do good in the regular season but might get upset early in April/May
 5 years ago '04        #10432
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Murry better make this fu*king roster, that's all I'm gonna say. We need his versatility, if he doesn't make the cut, Miami will sign him and he'll rot on the bench
 5 years ago '04        #10433
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Berman

Woodson said he'll start PG Beno Udrih and rookie Tim Hardaway in the mixed-bag backcourt as Iman Shumpert (elbow) Raymond Felton sit out. Tonight in Toronto will be the last time Woodson experiments with the young guys trying to earn a roster spot, so it's a big night for Tour'e Murry, CDR, Chris Smith and C.J. Leslie. Wednesday in Green Bay and in the preseason finale Friday vs. Charlotte at the reopened Garden will be dress rehearsals. “Wednesday and Friday we’ll play rotation guys and burn them and get their heart rates up,’’ Woodson said. Tomorrow the Knicks are practicing in a gym near the Toronto airport before flying to Green Bay and it will be a big session. Amar’e Stoudemire and J.R. Smith likely scrimmage for the first time this preseason tomorrow. “I’m hoping Amar’e can, he’s feeling pretty good today,’’ Woodson said at the morning shootaround at AirCanada Centre. “I’m hoping both of them can, to be honest.’’ Woodson likes what he sees from Amar'e in halfcourt, contact drillwork. “The short time he’s done some of the shellwork, it’s pretty good, but it’s different halfcourt,’’ Woodson said.
 5 years ago '04        #10434
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Berman

Carmelo Anthony could only watch in bewilderment. Metta World Peace stripped the ball from him at midcourt during the Knicks’ intrasquad scrimmage Sunday at Columbia University, chased after the loose ball and finished with a fast-break slam dunk. The packed crowd at Levien Gymnasium howled. Anthony shook his head.

It wasn’t a good feeling, but Anthony will be better for it. Anthony is facing a defensive beast in practice every day of training camp. How can he not be better for it?

World Peace’s value will be seen on many levels this season and his goal is to make sure Anthony is the Knicks’ “leading guy.’’

“It’s more about we got to make each other better,’’ said World Peace, who ironically donned Anthony’s No. 7 practice jersey. “We don’t want to come out here and k!ll each other, especially in front of the media and fans. That’s not what we’re here for. This is what we do in practice.

“Melo had great days in practice, but we try to go at it. It’s the only way we can get better. If we push each other, try to make it hard on him, so when we get out on the floor [in a game], it’ll be easy and he can be the leader in scoring and be the leading guy. I want Melo to be the leading guy. But we got to do that together.”

Anthony was not made available to reporters after practice, but J.R. Smith said he sees the new practice challenge facing last season’s NBA leading scorer. It’s different than Anthony being guarded by Chris Copeland last season.

“Just to see Metta guard Melo in practice, it’s the first time I’ve seen him in the years we’ve been together, get a real challenge for him almost every day,’’ said Smith, who also was Anthony’s teammate with the Nuggets. “Melo’s taking it head on. Defense is what we preach and [taking] pride in on our team. Hopefully Metta keeps doing what he’s doing and gets guys into it.’’

World Peace hit two more 3-pointers during the scrimmage — his perimeter shooting continuing to look very smooth in training camp. Cut by the Lakers via the amnesty rule, the former Ron Artest, 33, does not look done yet. He sprained his ankle in practice last week and the Knicks had to beg him not to make the trip to Baltimore.

“I’m impressed with everything [World Peace has] done,’’ Knicks coach Mike Woodson said. “I’m going to be honest with you. He’s a guy we had to make take days off and take a game from him. He was there early. He’s go, go, go. I like that. He’s a tough kid. There’s nothing he can‘t do on the basketball court.

“All those things are great when you’re talking about trying to win at a high level. He does all the little things to help you win as well. I can’t wait to really get started when it counts and he’ll be a big part of what we do.’’

Lakers coach Mike D’Antoni gave former Knicks general manager Glen Grunwald rave reviews on World Peace in July after the Lakers cut him for financial purposes. D’Antoni was most impressed World Peace took just two weeks to heal from midseason knee surgery last season — an example of grit and dedication.

“You can’t be less than what you are,’’ World Peace said, explaining his longevity. “Be you. I work hard. I work on my body, try to stay in shape. I let people call me old. I can’t help I’m 33. God put us in this world and you’ll age. Nothing I can do about that. But what I can do is I can continue to work hard and stay in shape and I’m moving pretty well.’’

He also wants to mold the youthful batch of Knicks — not just Anthony.

“I want to help the young guys,’’ World Peace said. “Because in the playoffs, we’re going to need everybody. Not 100 percent intelligent, but [have them] at their peak intelligence in the playoffs, bringing the best they can bring mentally.’’
 5 years ago '04        #10435
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TORONTO – The government shutdown is over, but the K-Mart shutdown continues.

Former Raptor Andrea Bargnani is good to go Monday night in his former haunt, but Kenyon Martin is still wondering when Knicks coach Mike Woodson will let him play this preseason.

Bargnani, whose back stiffened in practice Sunday at Columbia University, is healthy enough to play his second game in Toronto in 10 days. Bargnani hasn’t missed a single preseason game. Martin has yet to play one. Martin prefers to play and is trying to rationalize the extra cautious strategy the Knicks medical staff is taking.

Because his late-season severe ankle sprain healed slowly over the summer, a plan was devised to keep Martin off the court during most of preseason. But Martin vowed even if he doesn’t play a preseason game, he will be out there for the season opener Oct. 30 against the Bucks.

Martin said he has yet to hear if Woodson will unleash him for the preseason finale Oct. 25 at the Garden against the Bobcats.

“I’ll definitely [play] on the 30th,’’ Martin said. “I’m going to push that much harder to play. I’m not questionable. I’m fine.’’

Asked whether he would play the last preseason game, Martin snapped, “I wanted to play the first. You got to ask Woody. He’s the coach. If it was up to me, I’ll play.”

Last week, Woodson hinted Martin could play the final two preseason games, but has since backed off.

“I’m ready now,’’ Martin said on whether he would be fit for the regular-season opener. “And it’s nine days away. I’m fine, man. If he decides to play me in one of those last preseason games, he’ll let me know. If not, the real show starts and I’m ready.’

“I understand: I’m not a young guy,’’ added Martin, who turns 36 in December. “I’m not going to press the issue about playing preseason [even if] it makes no sense to me. I’m going to press the issue when it’s playing the regular season. Because I want to play. I understand the issue. We have guys f!ghting for jobs and in order for them to do that, I have to take a backseat.’’

The Knicks may not believe Martin can withstand the rigors of an 82-game schedule. The ex-Net is destined to sit out some back-to-backs. Woodson appears ready to adopt the same strategy Spurs coach Gregg Popovich uses in giving time off to Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker.

“That’s how Pop handles his team,’’ Martin said. “You have to ask Woody. Whatever plan is in place – we have one – we’re not sharing it with people. There’s a plan in place. I’m going to stick to it and get ready for what it really counts in April, May and definitely trying to play in June. I’m not trying to burn myself and press the issue playing seven games in 10 nights.’’

Meanwhile, Bargnani will play his fifth preseason contest after Sunday’s scare.

“I just needed a little stretch, a little stretching,’’ said Bargnani, who also has healed fully from a summer bout with pneumonia that bounced him out of the European Championships.

Point guard Pablo Prigioni will miss Monday’s game because of flu-like symptoms, and Raymond Felton (hamstring) and Iman Shumpert (elbow sprain) will rest. Shumpert is expected to return for the next game Wednesday against the Bucks in Green Bay, Wis., according to Woodson.
 5 years ago '04        #10436
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TORONTO — Kenyon Martin has become Amar’e Stoudemire without the $100 million contract.

Knicks coach Mike Woodson revealed his regular-season plan for his two backup power forwards, who are being treated as if they are as fragile as glass. Neither has played yet in the preseason, and Woodson revealed Monday night he doesn’t anticipate either playing both ends of back-to-back games in the regular season.

That’s no shocker regarding Stoudemire, as The Post reported after the Andrea Bargnani trade in late June keeping Stoudemire out of both ends of back-to-backs was under heavy consideration.

The Martin situation, however, continues a surprising narrative, as he’s suddenly being treated as a major injury risk because of chronic ankle pain. It’s no wonder the Knicks waited until late July before re-signing him to the veteran’s minimum. This new vision could have Stoudemire playing one game of a back-to-back and Martin the other.

“He and Amar’e both have to be managed to a point where they can’t play back-to-back games,’’ Woodson said before the Knicks faced the Raptors at AirCanada Centre. “Three, four games in five, six nights, we have to look at that closely as we go through the season. If it falls that way, they’ll have to miss a game or two. I got to have them for the long haul.’’

The government shutdown is over, but the Martin preseason shutdown is still on. Martin is getting antsy, and may not have a single preseason game under his belt going into the regular season.

Woodson wouldn’t guarantee Martin will play the preseason finale Friday at the Garden against the Bobcats. That puts into question whether Martin will be allowed to go in the season opener Oct. 30 against the Bucks. That won’t sit well with Martin, who claims his ankles are “fine.’’

“I think right now Kenyon has to continue to be patient and rehab,’’ Woodson said. “I’m not in a hurry in rushing him back right now. I know he wants to play. I’ll see Thursday to see where he is, but he won’t play Wednesday [in Green Bay, Wis.]’’

Asked what is holding Martin back, Woodson said, “Coach is holding him back. I’m going to continue to watch it closely. Until I think he’s ready. I’m not going to just throw him out there. These games don’t count. We need him for the long haul.’’

Bargnani hasn’t missed a single preseason game and Martin has yet to play one. Martin prefers to play and is trying to rationalize the extra-cautious strategy the Knicks medical staff is taking. Martin’s late-season ankle sprain healed slowly over the summer, putting the club in panic mode.

Martin vowed even if he doesn’t play in the preseason, he will be out there for the season opener.

“I’ll definitely [play] on the 30th,’’ Martin said. “I’m going to push that much harder to play. I’m not questionable. I’m fine.’’

Asked if he would play the last preseason game, Martin said, “I wanted to play the first. You got to ask Woody. He’s the coach. If it was up to me, I’ll play.

“I’m ready now,’’ Martin added on whether he’d be fit for the opener. “And it’s nine days away. I’m fine, man. If he decides to play me in one of those last preseason games, he’ll let me know. If not, the real show starts and I’m ready.’’

“I understand — I’m not a young guy. I’m not going to press the issue about playing preseason. Don’t make no sense to. I’m going to press the issue when it’s playing the regular season, because I want to play. I understand the issue. We have guys f!ghting for jobs and in order for them to do that, I have to take a backseat.’’

The Knicks don’t believe Martin can withstand the rigors of an 82-game schedule. Woodson appears ready to adopt the same strategy Spurs coach Gregg Popovich uses with giving time off to Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker.

“That’s how Pop handles his team,’’ Martin said. “You have to ask Woody. Whatever plan is in place — we have one — we’re not sharing it with people. There’s a plan in place. I’m going to stick to it and get ready for when it really counts in April, May and definitely trying to play in June. I’m not trying to burn myself and press the issue playing seven games in 10 nights.’’

Meanwhile, Tuesday’s practice in Toronto could be a big day for Stoudemire. He may be cleared to scrimmage for the first time and perhaps be cleared to play the preseason finale.
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TORONTO — Thankfully for the Knicks, it’s still the preseason.

Andrea Bargnani’s mid-range jumper wasn’t sharp in his second return to Canada and the Knicks dropped a wild 123-120 double-overtime contest to the Raptors Monday after blowing leads in the final ticks of regulation and the first overtime.

The offensive goat was Bargnani, and Ike Diogu was the defensive goat. Bargnani, shrugging off a stiff back, played the first three quarters at AirCanada Centre and shot just 4-of-12 for 13 points — booed whenever he touched the ball and cheered when he missed a shot. He bricked eight of his first nine shots — all from mid-range.

Bargnani was out of the game when the Knicks committed a massive late meltdown. Diogu has had a good preseason in vying for a roster spot, but allowed this night to extend too long.

The Raptors twice tied it with last-second buckets to force the overtimes. Tyler Hansbrough spun past Diogu for a layup to send the game into the first OT. Diogu left Hansbrough inexplicably to chase another player.

“I wish I knew [why],’’ Knicks coach Mike Woodson said. “You don’t switch until the guy gives the ball up.’’

Then Toronto’s Terrence Ross hit a buzzer-beating 3-pointer to force a second OT — partly because of Diogu and due to what Woodson called “a bad switch’’ by Tim Hardaway Jr. and Tour’e Murry. The Raptors had maintained possession after Diogu lost a rebound out of bounds before Ross nailed the game-tying 3-pointer over a late-arriving Hardaway.

Meawhile, Bargnani’s preseason streak of 21 straight free throws without a miss ended Monday. He finished 5-of-7 from the line and is 23-of-25 overall.

“My preseason streak?’’ said Bargnani, who won’t return to Toronto until Dec. 27. “Hopefully I’ll have a regular-season free-throw streak.’’

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The Knicks will practice Tuesday at Toronto’s Humber College before flying to Green Bay, Wis. — where they will face the Bucks Wednesday — and Amar’e Stoudemire and J.R. Smith may be unleashed to scrimmage for the first time this preseason. Both had workouts Monday and should be cleared. If they scrimmage well, they both could play Friday.

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Metta World Peace lit it up from 3-point range (4-of-5) and finished with 16 points. He also got into a light shoving match with Hansbrough, who backed down when he saw his opponent. … Ex-Knick Steve Novak (sore thumb) didn’t play for the Raptors. … Murry all but solidified a roster spot, hitting a midcourt flip shot at the halftime buzzer and finishing with 12 points. …Center Cole Aldrich was a DNP.
 5 years ago '04        #10438
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Ian Begley

The New York Knicks have less than a week to set their regular season roster.

So it's time to take a serious look at the training camp invites.

The Knicks have 12 players signed to guaranteed contracts. Two players are on partially guaranteed contracts (C.J. Leslie, Jeremy Tyler).

So the Knicks could keep as many as three of their training camp invitees.

They need to set their roster by Oct. 28 at 5 p.m. So it's time to ask the question: who would you keep? Who would you cut?

Below, we take a look at the candidates:

IKE DIOGU: Diogu has been active on offense, averaging 13.6 points over the last three preseason games. He's also grabbed 23 rebounds in that span. Mike Woodson has said that the Knicks will keep at least one of the three big men they invited to camp. Right now, it looks like Diogu is in the lead.

TOURE' MURRY: Murry's also come on strong over the last three games, averaging 14 points in that span. He's also handed out two a.ssists and grabbed nearly four rebounds a night in his last three games. Murry is stuck in a bit of a logjam because the Knicks have a glut of point guards and shooting guards. But the 23-year-old could be a young piece that the Knicks can develop. That's something that Knicks owner James Dolan has placed a premium on, according to several league sources.

JOSH POWELL: In limited minutes, Powell has been active on defense -- something Woodson appreciates. He had six rebounds in the Knicks' double-overtime loss to Toronto. He totaled six blocks in the Knicks' first four games.

With the health of Amar'e Stoudemire and Kenyon Martin in question, Knicks' brass may choose to keep two training camp big men. If they choose to do so, Powell could get strong consideration.

COLE ALDRICH: It's not a good sign that Aldrich did not see the floor in the Knicks' loss to Toronto on Monday. The 7-footer also played just four minutes last Thursday in Baltimore. Aldrich was an early favorite in camp, but, based on the minutes he's played of late, it seems like he may have fallen out of favor with the coaching staff.

CHRIS SMITH: Smith, the younger brother of J.R. Smith, has played sparingly in the preseason. Woodson referred to the former Louisville guard as a young player "trying to find his way" last week. But he also said that Smith has "competed" and mentioned that he would be one of the players the Knicks would make a decision on next Monday.

C.J. LESLIE: The Knicks owe Leslie $200,000 in guaranteed money, so that may factor in in their decision to keep him or cut him. But the former North Carolina State standout has been underwhelming in the preseason. Woodson mentioned that the game may be too fast for Leslie at this point in his career. He may be better suited for the D-League at this juncture.

JEREMY TYLER: Tyler impressed the Knicks in the summer league but he hasn't been able to get on the floor in the preseason. He broke a bone in his foot before training camp and is expected to miss the entire preseason. New York has guaranteed Tyler $100,000, so that may factor in their decision to keep or cut him. Another factor to consider: Tyler, 22, could fit the mandate from upper management stating that the team should have younger players at the end of the roster.

CHRIS DOUGLAS-ROBERTS: Douglas-Roberts, a former Nets draft pick, has played sparingly in camp. He had five points in 12 minutes against Toronto on Monday. He also played 12 minutes in the Knicks' third preseason game but he did not see the floor in the other three preseason games. It seems like he's facing long odds to make the team.

UP NOW: The Knicks lost a few big men from last year's roster. Do they have enough to battle on the boards with the big teams in the Eastern Conference?
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K-Mart, Amar'e & Smitty are all scrimmaging today
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i thought they were supposed to unveil the orange jerseys last night?
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